DAT-heads Digest #39
Contents:
FS: Tascam DAP1 via EBAY auction ("Kerplunk!")
FS: 64 megs of SDRAM for a vaio... ("Derek Swingley")
extra Phil & Friends 4/29/01 for B+P ("Dan Greenberg")
IP / Connection Question (David Minches)
Re: DAT > HD and EAC questions + nightingale pro6 ("Jamie Lutch")
ISO: anything from the 2001 Warped Tour at the Gorge (John Etter)
looking for The Red Rocker... (sec1968@ezl.com)
ISO Counting Crows (roarke)
***** URGENT ***** ISO: Tapers in Detroit/Milwaukee/Chicago areas ("Brian Kelley")
Is Anyone Taping this Performance? (Matt Day)
Usually, don't transfer DAT and do ANYTHING else... (JH)
iso ben fold NYC tix (Scott C. Brown)
FS: Behringer Ultramatch SRC2000 Sample Rate Converter (Dan Heend)
Help: WSP taper section for Europe? ("Mincey, Patrick")
Charging My Ecocharge in France ("Mincey, Patrick")
Still looking for Alison Krausse 8/25 Florenc MA. ("Red Eye")
Del McCoury 09/07/01 ("Joe Totoraitis")
FS: 20 sealed HS-4 60m DATs ("Ed Olivere")
DAT story (repost cause of linebreaks) (JoE McCabe)
Does the James Taylor Quartet Allow Taping? ("Hood Rat")
extra blues traveler 7/21/01 columbus, oh. ("Dave Stephens")
FS: Sony WM-D6C (Phil Rowe)
Iso: Expert in DAT>PC storage and Expert in Soundforge4.5+CDarchitect ("Alf")
From: "Kerplunk!" <idordowne@earthlink.net>
Subject: FS: Tascam DAP1 via EBAY auction
Reply-To: "Kerplunk!" <idordowne@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:29:27 -0500
Greetings.
Auctioning my DAP1 via EBAY
please follow the following link for info
thanx for the space
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1464182325
From: "Derek Swingley" <fluffmasterflex@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: 64 megs of SDRAM for a vaio...
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:30:54 -0500
Is there any interest in this? I'm switching it out for an additional 128
megs of RAM for my new machine. I'm asking $100, half of the upgrade cost
to 256. Also, I wouldn't be able to ship this for about 2-3 weeks.
Have fun,
Derek
From: "Dan Greenberg" <letitgro@warwick.net>
Subject: extra Phil & Friends 4/29/01 for B+P
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:40:07 -0400
This is for the Phil Lesh & Friends show at Asbury Park
on 4/29/01. It was recorded w/ DPA 4023 mics. The
show is on a pair of Sony 90m DATs (one per set).
In return, I'd like two sealed Sony or Maxell 90m DATs
plus postage.
First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets it
(unless you're willing to do B+P's for others, which I
would give preference to...in which case tell me how
many you're willing to make).
-Dan-
From: David Minches <dminches@snip.net>
Subject: IP / Connection Question
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:43:59 -0400
If I run winipcfg on my machine I can see my IP address (for my cable modem).
However, if I configure an FTP client with that IP address and try to log
on anonymously, I cannot.
Do I need to set up a login and a password? Am I doing something else
wrong? Is there some other software that I need to set up on my machine to
accomplish this?
Thanks,
David
From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: Re: DAT > HD and EAC questions + nightingale pro6
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:57:28 -0700
> Several questions for the group... Not that my road runner cable modem
is
> hooked up, I've started letting friends download SHN files of recent shows
> that I've taped. But I'm concerned about executing certain tasks while
> several folks are downloading data. In a nutshell, is it safe for me to:
>
> 1) transfer from DAT to my hard drive with downloading in the
background...
> is there any real risk that i will corrupt the files i'm transferring?
no, that is probably a very bad thing for you to do. you shgould have the
computer doing nothing else while transferring dat>hd. If the hd's attention
drifts to another app for even an instant, you will very likely drop
samples. This is a real-time transfer, if you dont catch all the bits,
theyre gone. If you had a separate drive for the dat stream to be written
to, you _might_ get away with it, but I wouldnt take the chance.
>
> 2) similarly, is there any danger in EAC discs while downloading is
> occuring in the background?
this you can get away with, EAC is reading data and writing data, its hard
to mess this up.
> From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
> Subject: Re: Nightingale Pro 6 mine is introducing noise... (Aaargh)
> >
> > Only problem is I'm getting some noise. The noise is virtually
> > inaudible thru speakers, but when I listen via headphones I can hear
> > "pops and clicks". The sound is subtle, but can be distracting
> > especially when listening to some crisp DSBD's. Seems like the
> > louder the passage the more noticeable it is. I also noticed that my
> > D8>oade active cable>coax>S/PDIF seemed to produce the noise more
> > often than my DA-P1>coax>S/PDIF. Tried re-installing, updating
> > directx, I have the most current driver from Zoltrix etc. At a
> > complete loss. Aaaargh. Anybody else out there experience this? What
> > gives?
> >
> > FWIW, my setup: PC (733 PIII, 384MB RAM), Win98 (not 2nd edition)
>
make sure you have dma enabled on your hard drive, or youll likely havve
dropped samples, which is probably what those clicks and pops are
Jamie
From: John Etter <nirvana@oregontrail.net>
Subject: ISO: anything from the 2001 Warped Tour at the Gorge
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 17:05:00 -0700
hello,
im looking for any audio or video (specifically Alien Ant Farm) from the
warped tour at the gorge this past july 3rd. if you have anything or know
someone who does, please let me know
thanks,
john
From: sec1968@ezl.com
Subject: looking for The Red Rocker...
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:12:36 -0500
... Sammy Hagar from St. Louis last night. Since I knew i'd be in the lawn, and since it
rained, I didn't bother trying to stealth, although the sound out there wasn't bad at all. If
anyone was nice, dry and taping under the canopy, please drop me a line. Thanks.
shane
My home page http://www.ezl.com/~sec1968/
sec1968@ezl.com (home, ASP, Toad & Train)
icq# - 46591859
shane.calhoon@wgint.com (work, for awhile anyway)
314-539-0400 x532
check out my friends The Stubblefield Band.
http://www.stubblefieldband.com
From: roarke <roarke@bigfoot.com>
Subject: ISO Counting Crows
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 10:00:17 -0700
I'm looking for Counting Crows shows on DAT or CD. Specifically I'm looking
for the 2000 Dessert Sky, AZ show, but am interested in any and all CC
material. Plenty of CC stuff to offer in trade, as well as a large list of
other artists, again DAT or CD. Thanks in advance.
Adam
As a bandwidth tax I'll offer the 7/18/01 CC show on CD to the first two
takers as a B&P.
From: "Brian Kelley" <bpkelley@myexcel.com>
Subject: ***** URGENT ***** ISO: Tapers in Detroit/Milwaukee/Chicago areas
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:14:38 -0700
******** URGENT! URGENT! URGENT! ********
I am looking for any stealth tapers in Detroit,
Milwaukee, or Chicago. I will compensate you the
price of the ticket to the show(s) if you are willing
to go out and tape. Plus I'll even spin you an extra
show of your choice (on me! :)
Email me privately and I can give you all the details.
Thanks.
Peace and music,
Brian
From: Matt Day <retreatinn@iprimus.com.au>
Subject: Is Anyone Taping this Performance?
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:40:57 +1000
A Quote from Melbourne Newspaper "The Age" Sept 10th 2001
"Last Wednesday, at midnight in Halberstadt, Germany, a capacity
audience attended the world premiere of Cage's ORGAN2/ASLSP. That
stands for "As Long As Possible".
This was originally a 20-minute piano piece, but rewritten in 1987 for
organ and slightly expanded by 3,358,400 minutes or so. In short
(forgive the oxymoron) the piece runs for 639 years.
on Wednesday , all that was heard was the sound of the organ's bellows
being inflated- a sound that will continue until January 5 2003, when
the first three actual notes will be sounded. weights on the keyborad
will sustain this chord until February 5, and so on, every month, until
(war and Armageddon notwithstanding) the last chord on February 5, 2640.
The orginisers say the length is a contrast with the hectic pace of the
modern world.
All we want to know is, who is going to review it?"
What about tapers, Its a long time to sit still if you go in stealth.
From: JH <kc7fys@pro-ns.net>
Subject: Usually, don't transfer DAT and do ANYTHING else...
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 22:47:23 -0600
>From: "Popivchak, Pete" <PPopivchak@GardenWay.com>
>Subject: DAT > HD and EAC questions
>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:41:23 -0400
>
>1) transfer from DAT to my hard drive with downloading in the background...
>is there any real risk that i will corrupt the files i'm transferring?
>
>2) similarly, is there any danger in EAC discs while downloading is
>occuring in the background?
EAC should not run at the same time as transferring DAT>HD. In my
experience, all of my problems were solved when I just got a cheapie
P200pro machine with a SCSI and 10K drivea and Plextor 12/4/32, along with
a bunch of other 5400 RPM drives, and networked that to my P850 machine
that I use for EAC and internet, etc. Nothing should disturb the writing
of data to the HD, but if you use several drives, it's probably safe if
you're writing to a non-system resident drive. Mostly, though, having a
dedicated machine for DAW, even one with a puny processor like mine, makes
multitasking a non-issue when working with audio. I think my whole DAW
cost something like 80$, and I just pulled the stuff from my faster machine
that I was trying to do audio with, and dedicated it to that machine. It's
one answer to your question.
Jonathan
From: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (Scott C. Brown)
Subject: iso ben fold NYC tix
Reply-To: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (scb)
Date: 10 Sep 2001 00:32:36 EDT
looking for 2. any help appreciated
scott
From: Dan Heend <ccryder@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: FS: Behringer Ultramatch SRC2000 Sample Rate Converter
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 03:24:26 -0400
Selling my Ultramatch SRC2000. Like-new condition.
Hardware rack mount unit converts instantly to 44.1KHz, strips SCMS,
converts and splits formats(optical, coax, AES/EBU), corrects jitter, etc.
A must have for CD burning freaks with little time. Not doing enough CD's
to justify owning it anymore.
Can't begin to tell you how much time it saved me. Sells for $239 new,
reserve set at $180.
See http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1462304487
-Dan
From: "Mincey, Patrick" <pamincey@davidson.edu>
Subject: Help: WSP taper section for Europe?
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:50:30 -0400
I'm living in Paris for the fall and am gonna be taping 3-4 shows of the
Panic Europe tour (KM184>DMIC20>D-8). What is the deal with getting my rig
in? Does Panic have taper tickets, and how do I go about getting them? Can
anyone likewise respond about taping in general in Europe? Are the venues
generally informed? Thanks very much
Patrick
From: "Mincey, Patrick" <pamincey@davidson.edu>
Subject: Charging My Ecocharge in France
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:22:24 -0400
Anyone know if it is damaging to charge my Ecocharge using a plug in adaptor
with european outlets? What would I need to juice this puppy up? Thanks
patrick
From: "Red Eye" <redeye532@hotmail.com>
Subject: Still looking for Alison Krausse 8/25 Florenc MA.
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:30:00 -0400
Hi,
If anyone has a lead on this show..I would like to try and get a copy
DAT or CDR
Please e-mail me,
Thanks,
Clint
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From: "Joe Totoraitis" <rockumal@hotmail.com>
Subject: Del McCoury 09/07/01 <ISO: Guy with AKG Bluelines>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:56:28 -0500
Please contact me. Thanks
WOB: Bruce Hornsby 08.16.01 1x90m FOB cmc64v
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From: "Ed Olivere" <eolivere@earthlink.net>
Subject: FS: 20 sealed HS-4 60m DATs
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:05:08 -0400
Contact me privately for info.
eolivere@earthlink.net
From: JoE McCabe <energyi@mccabe.net>
Subject: DAT story (repost cause of linebreaks)
Date: 10 Sep 2001 08:41:27 -0700
Dear DATheads:
Dear DATheads:
It all started in 1995, ….well, maybe 1994, when I got married. I suggested that I wouldn't attend my own
wedding if Jerry died. So a year later, IT happened and I didn't attend the funeral. Instead, I bought a DAT
deck, and began trading shows, to try and keep the music alive.
I purchased a DA-20, didn't get an extended warranty, have been dry-cleaning the heads whenever I
remember (logging the date). The Tascam was my choice because it has SCMS defeating capabilities.
And, I found out later, you obtain error codes by doing strange combinations of keys and knob positions.
Basically, the DA-20 is a professional deck that was dumbed down for the consumer market. It has
served me very well for the past 6 years, and keeps on working.
I first traded by sending out blanks and postage. Then, I would tempt people with my shows by sending
out my master tape, along with a blank, and people would send me back both tapes, my oringinal show,
and a new show; I'd supply postage each way. Thus, I accumulated about 100 shows.
After being single-decker for a year or so, I did the only logical thing, I bought another deck, a D-8. And I
purchased a core-sound RCA in and out 7-pin cable. Now I was ready to patch in at shows and trade one
for one.
It has been a great "strange trip" meeting all you traders through DATheads, and at the shows. The
subculture is a rewarding venture. I have only lost two 90 meter tapes in all my trading (I use 90 meters
all the time in both decks, no problems). And I don't think the people were not rip off artists, just too
dosed. I've been able to acquire just about every taper friendly live show I've ever attended. My collection
is now over 300 shows.
Now, comes the reason for the post. I am upgrading my taping arangements and thought I'd share the
tech-no info.
I have purchased an Iwill (iwillusa.com) motherboard kk266plus-R with a 1.2 GHz Althlon processor
($135 + $116 at tccomputers.com) plus a 256 MB RAM and 60 Gbyte 5400 rpm ATA-100 hard drive ($29
+ $69 at fry's) and a 12x DVD, 40X CDRom drive ($39 Frys) along with a SPDIF riser card for the Iwill
motherboard ($19 frys) and a new case ($42) for a grand total of around $420 with shipping for a sound
editing system. The motherboard has integrated CMI8738 6 Channel w/SPDIF (through IWILL
SuperAudio).With my Soundforge 4.0 and a 4X CDR, I hope to be transferring my DAT collection to CD
media, and trading the DATs out, for more CD's.
But that is not all, the Iwill motherboard has built in RAID, so, eventually, I think this box is going to be
serving up shows.
Keep 'em moving, no matter what the format changes; that will keep the music, and Jerry's memory,
alive.
Thanks to all for your generosity of time and interest in trading. Hope this helps.
JoE
sorry about the re-post, looks like I didn't have line breaks, hope this works ~smiley~
Joseph McCabe, P.E.
Energy Ideas
Phone & Fax (530)795-2930
energyi@mccabe.net
www.energyi.mccabe.net
.
.
.
From: "Hood Rat" <el_baracho@hotmail.com>
Subject: Does the James Taylor Quartet Allow Taping?
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:45:50 -0700
What up fellow heads- I was thinking about checking out the James Taylor
Quartet in San Francisco in a couple weeks and was wondering what the Brit
thinks about taping. Anyone know? Gracias muchachos.
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From: "Dave Stephens" <dstephe@columbus.rr.com>
Subject: extra blues traveler 7/21/01 columbus, oh.
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:36:11 -0400
hey all,
ive got an extra burned on memorex audio cdr's. 2 discs. only catch is they
are both 1 big track. seems they were dumped from dat to cdr via a big long
track.
easy to break up though using cd wave. source was akg 391> sbm1 > d8
id like to trade for an early 70's dead show if possible.
if interested email off list.
thanx
ds
From: Phil Rowe <philrowe@bigfoot.com>
Subject: FS: Sony WM-D6C
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:58:03 -0400
Sorry for the non-DAT content. I have a portable Sony "Professional"
Walkman WM-D6C cassette deck for sale. It is two years old, but hasn't been
used since I entered the digital realm, over a year ago. It is in as new
condition, with original box, extra battery case & unused pleather case
included. Asking $200 and I'll pay shipping charges.
Thanks for the bandwidth,
Phil Rowe
Cincinnati, OH
From: "Alf" <md2001@mclink.it>
Subject: Iso: Expert in DAT>PC storage and Expert in Soundforge4.5+CDarchitect
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:00:43 +0200
Till now, during all these digital tradings I used the following setup
DATS : Sony D8, Tascam DA20
CDR: Tascam CDR5000 pro stand alone (connected by coax cable)
Now I decided to do a severe upgrade of my computer, as I want use also as
HD multitrack recording (I'm a semi-newbie as guitarist too) :
Motherboard ASUS A7V + CPU AMD Thunderbird 900, 40 GigaByte HD(IBM ata
x7200 rpm), 768 MB Ram (256mb x3), Delta DIO 2496 sound card, + POD v.2 (for
guitar)
I have installed as software Nero, EAC, Soundforge 4.5 + CD architect
In these days, thanks to some friends, I'm liking a lot the last two
software.
The Delta DIO 2496 (link is http://www.m-audio.com/m-audio/product.htm )
have following features:
=========
Professional digital transferring and mastering have never been as
affordable and easily accessible as they are now with the Delta DiO 2496.
With a host of pro features, the Delta DiO 2496 is ready for any and all
optical and coaxial S/PDIF applications. Besides sporting dual format
digital I/O (optical on TOSlink connectors, coaxial on gold-plated RCA
connectors), the Delta DiO 2496 also provides a high-quality D/A converter
which may be used for monitoring or mixdowns. All data paths support 24 bit
96kHz operation, and the D/A output channels are completely independent of
the digital output channels making the Delta DiO 2496 a 2-in 4-out
full-duplex card. Finally, the Delta DiO 2496 offers onboard digital mixing
and routing, monitor control, SCMS (Serial Copy Management System) output on
S/PDIF, and even multi-platform operation.
Features
. 2-in, 4-out 24 bit/96kHz full-duplex audio interface on a half-size PCI
card.
. S/PDIF inputs and outputs on Coaxial (RCA) and Optical (TOSlink) jacks.
. High-quality stereo analog output on RCA jacks, configurable as +4dB
or -10dB.
. Built-in digital mixer allows the D/A converter to monitor digital inputs
or act as its own independent stereo output.
. Measured D/A specs: 101dB (A-weighted) dynamic range, 0.002% THD @ 0dBFS.
. All data paths support up to 24 bit/96kHz performance.
. Drivers include: Windows 95/98, Windows NT, ASIO, ASIO2, Direct Sound,
EASI, Multi-card 95/98 & Multi-card NT (up to 3 in a system), Gigasampler,
Mac Sound Manager and Mac ASIO.
=======================
I'll get the new computer at end of this week.
Now I have some questions:
1 - Compatibility of soundcard with Soundforge 4.5 + CD architect:
Soundforge is 16 bit, and my next new DIO 2496 is 24 bit. Do you think I'll
have troubles?
2- How I can use DAT with PC?
I put tape inside Dat deck, and just hit play buttom? How I can transfer
from DAT to PC, converting in wav files?
Have to use a specific program?
Or I can use EAC, soundforge or similar softwares?
For expert in | Soundforge4.5 + Cd ARCHITECT | ***
1) Imagine a concert recorded originally into Cassette (Cassette>dat>CDR)
If I want reduce hiss from all over the CD (or also from a specifical area)
how Can I do?
I isolate shortest part of noise without music and I copy to clipboard
I went to NOISE GATE, but there's only a level where I can reduce thresold
level in percentual
I believe I could use the bit of noise to take away from all regions
2) If a source (DAT/CD) is perfectly divided into ID tracks, so don't need
adjust, how can I mantain those, during process CD> wav file, without
remarking then again?
For guitarist(musician) :
1- What is the best softwares to record guitar (HD multitracks recordings,
etc)? (consider I'm newbie)
==========
Sorry for questions probably stupids for many of you, but as repeat I'm
newbie in cloning using a PC.
Now my bandwith tax
RABIH ABOU-KALI 1/22/2001 Moments, Bremen 44 min
Satellite FM>Datmaster>CDR master>EAC>Soundforge4.5>CDarchitect(to cut DJ
chats)
It's a nice free jazz/ethnic
I'd like to spread this one via the "TRAIN method", i.e. "pass it down" (No
trades, just a free copy)
. The way this works is I'll collect names from
the folks on this list that want a copy. I'll make a copy and send it to
someone "on me". When that person gets the copy, they'll copy the discs, and
pass along the original source discs to the next person.
So if you're interested.... drop me an e-mail with the subject "The arabian
train" and we'll get it rolling
Thanks
Alf
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