DAT-heads Digest #43, Volume #6 Fri, 14 Sep 01 00:50:01 EDT Contents: Re: (Richard Campbell) ISO Dave Matthews Band Labor Day Weekend Broadcast (CC) OT: Spring Tour '87 sticker (Jason Neely) Open Trees on DooDah Trees ("Doo") 96k vs. 48k sample rates ("Nick Georges") dat2wav questions (Erich Eyler) WSP Ticket Info... (Wayne Brissette) Items for sale...and ISO (clint morrison) Historical documentation of disaster... ("Jackson Gibbs") Re: Sound card recommendations (Paul Loeber) Soundcard Sale ("Frank Rinaldi") Re: Soundcard for DAT Transfer? (Len Moskowitz) 11db or 20db attenuator cable for D100+CSC? ("c t") ISO: Tenacious D - DC ("Jeff Martin") Metallica dat clone for trade ("Luigi Bagatella") FW: Mixer Questions ("Jayney Wallick") Extend pause on PCM-M1? (Dave C) FS: Accessories ("Eric Pellegrino") Eric V? (Kurt Vogel) Re: Eric V? (Seth Breidbart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Campbell Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:23:02 -0700 (PDT) All, Thought I'd pass this link on as seems a pretty easy way to give a little to the rescue effort. Richard http://s1.amazon.com/paypage/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/103-6815826-0563064#description --- Chuck Kurz wrote: > HI everyone, > > Jane and I are doing well. We hope all of you and > your loved ones are safe. > We are currently in the Cook Islands. Really > nice, but hard to enjoy when > home is so crazy. > > We'll write more when things have settled down a > little. > > Love, > Chuck > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ From: CC Subject: ISO Dave Matthews Band Labor Day Weekend Broadcast Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:06:40 -0700 Looking for a clean DAT or CDR copy of the DMB 7/6 - 7/7 Chicago shows which were aired as a two hour broadcast during Labor Day Weekend. I've got lots of DMB, and others, to trade. Please contact me if interested. Chris _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Jason Neely Subject: OT: Spring Tour '87 sticker Reply-To: bondibox@bellsouth.net Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 02:14:29 -0400 Friends, Among the victims of Tuesday's tragedy was a brother who some of you might have known. His name was Peter Hansen and he and wife and daughter were on the second plane to hit the WTC. Peter grew up in Easton, CT, and moved to Boston. In 1987 we printed up a thousand stickers, with a dancing bear in the center and the words "This must be heaven - Spring tour '87" around the edges. I would dearly appreciate it if any of you older heads who might have one of these stickers could scan it and email the graphic to me, as I'm putting together a webpage in his memory. If any of you knew Peter, I would love to add your memories of him to the webpage. http://personal.sdf.bellsouth.net/sdf/b/o/bondibox/petehansen.html Thanks, Jason Neely ------------------------------ From: "Doo" Subject: Open Trees on DooDah Trees Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:32:31 -0400 Hey all, We have several open trees on DooDah Trees at http://www.WebJams.com. We have both DAT and CDR branches, and SHN branches coming soon. Doo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sr. Data Architect / DBA PlanetJam Media Group ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: "Nick Georges" Subject: 96k vs. 48k sample rates Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:45:11 -0400 Hello readers... As I move into the world of laptop based 24bit field recording, I'm posed with the question of "what to buy for outboard mic pre and A/D". As I've posted before, I'm leaning towards the M-audio Audio Sport Duo, which should be ready for shipping at the end of this month. It is a 96k/24bit dual mic pre/phantom source and A/D that supplies both coax and USB output. I have heard from midiman that the hold up is getting 96k/24bit through PC's USB. It is also AC powered, but that is only an obstacle, and I have several options to apply towards a solution there. It does raise the issue of having to provide two external power sources. One for it, and another for the laptop. An AD2K, while quite possibly the "best" solution, is not an affordable one. So, it's off my list. The most "turn key" and cost effective solution I've seen is the Sound Devices USBpre. Basically the same thing, but it draws all its' power from the USB bus and only does sample rates maxing at 48k. One beefy battery solution for the laptop is all that is needed here. I like this streamlined approach. My question is.... What would be the benefit of 96k over 48k? I understand that it is 2x the amount of samples. That should basically double the resolution of what is captured, correct? It would also make me ready for DVD-a, just around the corner. I've found DVD-R (IDE PC devices) coming down to $800 now. I can easily remember when CD-RW was at that price and how quickly it fell. I expect DVD-R to do the same. I'm looking for opinions and suggestions. I do not plan on spending more than $6-700 on anything. I understand that limits me and my options, but that is ok. I strive to build the poor mans high-res field rig. ****************************************** www.nickspicks.com * a resource for digital music enthusiasts* * www.cablemodeminfo.com * best broadband resource page there is! * * * ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: Erich Eyler Subject: dat2wav questions Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:25 -0400 If someone has gotten dat2wav working, could they please give me a shout. -Erich ------------------------------ From: Wayne Brissette Subject: WSP Ticket Info... Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:33:28 -0500 Widespread Panic is coming to Austin and they will have reserved seating at the Erwin Center. I didn't seen on the WSP web site any info about taper tickets. How do they normally run taping when there is reserved seating? Is it from your seat? Is there a taper section that you simply have to purchase a reserved ticket for? Thanks in advance... Wayne -- "Nature can survive without man--in fact, that may be its salvation--but man cannot survive without nature." ---- Homero Aridjis ---- Music Trading List: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/ PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html ------------------------------ From: clint morrison Subject: Items for sale...and ISO Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Hey there- I recently switched from a DAP1 to sony portables for my recording needs but have decided that the applications I have been using them for really do require a DA-P1. I am therefore selling my sony portables and accesories. I am alsolooking for a used DA-P1 with low hours to purchase or trade in for. Here is what I have for sale: Sony PCM-M1 : 50 hours on heads. Great condition. WIll include all original manuals, box, power cords, sonty batteries, waranty cards etc. Looking to get around $550. Radio Shack battery system for PCM-M1. I'm sure you all have seen these...very small and work very well. Will power for 8 hours I believe. I have two of these batteries. Wil l sell the system for $40.00. Sony D7 dat recorder. HAs seen light use...under 200 hours. Included is the 6v wall wart cable and ecterbal cable to hook up to battery pack. Looking to get about $290. Oade Modified 7-pin in/out. Grey 7-pin head. WOrks impecably. Best cables made. Only used about 10 times. Looking to get $130.00. Sony 7-pin in cable. New in box. $75.00. Ecocharge 3.2 AH battery pack. Light use. $30. If anyone is interested in these items email me. ALso if you have a DA-P1 you are interested in selling email me as well. Take care- __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ From: "Jackson Gibbs" Subject: Historical documentation of disaster... Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:34:06 -0700 Just a thought this morning, and I don't at all mean this to sound irreverent or inconsiderate... But, being the sound (and I mean that as a noun here) people that you are, don't you think a d8/CSB on the spot recording would be at least if not more historically valuable than the video footage they have been showing on tv? I'm sometimes surprised that such things aren't recorded as these media people go about their video taping. I can sit here from the distance of Oregon (or from the distance of 2015 for that matter) and try to imagine what went down, I can watch the same 3 seconds of video over and over and over. But to put on a pair of earphones, close my eyes, and be dropped into the middle of the street below seems like a much more valuable historical document. Of course I know that nobody gave this a second thought as panic and horror were ruling the moment but the networks should make a CSB/D8 rig standard issue for people going into such things... it would be an incredible document for history. -Jackson ------------------------------ From: Paul Loeber Subject: Re: Sound card recommendations Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:29:27 -0400 The best place to evaluate sound cards without actually hearing them personally is found at this page, along with lots and lots of other fascinating information: http://www.pcavtech.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Frank Rinaldi" Subject: Soundcard Sale Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:36:21 -0700 Hey Folks - Egosys just dropped their prices on many of their products so we have too. Check out our digital soundcard sale here: http://www.cascademedia.net/mailspecials Be well, Frank Cascade Media, LLC For All Your Digital Recording Needs Portland, Oregon 503-234-4294 888-336-4643 503-232-5874- fax frank@cascademedia.net www.cascademedia.net ------------------------------ From: Len Moskowitz Subject: Re: Soundcard for DAT Transfer? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Terry wrote: > I'm overwhelmed by the choice of souncards. I'm trying to find an > economical card that I can use to transfer from my Dat deck to my computer > (for cdr burning). Does anybody have any suggestions? I don't need a lot of > "bells and whistles", just a nice simple card with a digi in jack that > doesn't compromise the integrity of my "ones and zeros" during the transfer. > Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. I can highly recommend the Midiman/M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card. It sounds very good, is unusually reasonably priced and installs cleanly in almost all computer configurations. It has both analog I/O and coaxial digital I/O. And it has Midi too -- useful if you're a musician. You can find details about it on our Web page. I hope this helps. Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 ------------------------------ From: "c t" Subject: 11db or 20db attenuator cable for D100+CSC? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:03:19 +0000 hi all i brickwalled for the first time last weekend with a D100 using Core Sound Cardioids(with mic attenuator switch set to 20db) will a 11db attenuator cable avoid this, or do i need a 20db one?? does anyone with this setup just go line in instead if you know it's going to be a loud show?? i recorded a show tonight with the mics using line in and results seem ok. levels peaked at about 12db. this by-passes the mic pre-amp which is a probably a good thing, but i'm losing dynamic range, and avoids adding another component(attenuator cable) in the signal path...what's the best way to go? thanks luke _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Martin" Subject: ISO: Tenacious D - DC Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:40:20 -0400 Looking for anyone that may have extra tixs for Tenacious D in DC, 9:30 Club 10/13/01. Let me know, keep me in mind, Jeff http://www.freecfm.com/t/taperonline/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Luigi Bagatella" Subject: Metallica dat clone for trade Reply-To: "Luigi Bagatella" Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:49:59 +0200 I have a dat clone of Metallica, live in Sparta, KY, July 8 2000. This show doesn't feature James on vocals (he was in a hospital), so the singing parts have been covered by Jason, SOAD, Kid Rock and Korn. Many jams and messed-up, funny 'Tallica tentatives. Running time is about 2 hours. I will trade for any good 1991-1992 Metallica dat clones, or any other cool rock/metal act. Thanks for the space. Luigi (from Italy) ------------------------------ From: "Jayney Wallick" Subject: FW: Mixer Questions Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:30:20 -0700 Hello Everyone, I wanted to re-post this, but also to remind everyone to please reply to me directly. I'd like to compile a list of responses both for posting to this list, and for submitting to my colleagues here some time around September 24th. Is this a reasonable length of time? So far about 8 or 9 people have replied, and for the most part, the response has been pretty positive. However, I think it will take more replies than that to get my company to start researching, developing, and actually building a mixer. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. If you've already replied, there's no need to do it again. However, if you haven't responded and you want your voice to be heard please let me know before September 24th. If people start telling me that isn't enough time, I'll see what I can do about extending the deadline. Thanks very much once again. Jayney Wallick Technical Documentation Specialist Mackie Designs, Inc. Phone: (425) 402-6129 Fax: (425) 806-6312 > ---------- > From: Jayney Wallick > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:47 PM > To: DAT-Heads List (E-mail) > Subject: Mixer Questions >=20 > Hi There, >=20 > I just joined this list, and wanted to pose a question. I was just > wondering if anyone other than I have thought of the idea of recording > both ambient house sound and line input simultaneously (i.e. recording > with a mixer that has both the mike and a line input from the sound > board going out to the recorder). I've been doing this for a short > time with "mixed" results :). >=20 > My questions are, would anyone out there have any use for a mixer with > four inputs (two inputs for either one stereo mike, or two shotguns, > and two for line inputs from the sound board) and two outputs (to go > to the recorder)? If so, would you/have you actually buy/bought one? > If you use one, what make and model do you use? I'm trying to get a > feel for how many of us would actually purchase such a thing so I can > try to coerce the audio company I work for into building one. They may > go for it, but not if no one would buy it. Please feel free to e-mail > me privately so as to risk "cluttering up" the list. Thanks very much. >=20 > Jayney Wallick > Technical Documentation Specialist > Mackie Designs, Inc. > E-mail: jayneyw@mackie.com > Phone: (425) 402-6129 > Fax: (425) 806-6312 >=20 ------------------------------ From: Dave C Subject: Extend pause on PCM-M1? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:12:48 -0700 Besides being a budding DAT-head, I'm a scanner/SWL geek. I've been using my PCM-M1 a little today as a rudimentary timecode 2-track, recording two different scanners for later playback. What I'm wondering is whether it's possible to disable the behavior of the machine to drop out of pause after a few minutes? (Knowing full well the implications of this, of course, but this is an extraordinary circumstance.) It takes so long for the tape to load and start recording that it's not very useful for quick conversations. Actually, if anybody knows from other experience of a cheap (read: consumer grade, voice-quality) VOX-operated timestamped recording device, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks... ------------------------------ From: "Eric Pellegrino" Subject: FS: Accessories Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:41:57 -0400 I have the following for sale all are in mint/excellent condition. Make me an offer if interested in any or all of this stuff. 1-Sonicase Deluxe Carrying Bag 1-Sonicase Accessories Pouch 1-Schoeps ORTF mic bar 1-Schoeps A-20S shock mount 1-DPA CXY4000 Mic Adapter 2-MBHO Mic cases 1- 13' Manfrotto Air Cushioned Mic Stand 1- Sony D10 ProII Digital Cable thanks eric WOB TAX moe. 6-21-01 B&K 4022's>v2>ad500e>sony d10 ProII ------------------------------ From: Kurt Vogel Subject: Eric V? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Is Eric V ok? There are several DAT-heads who have @msdw.com addresses. My sympathy to all New Yorkers who I'm sure have been deeply affected by recent events. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Eric V? Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:28:10 -0400 (EDT) > Is Eric V ok? Is he ever? But he works in midtown, and I've seen him post since Tuesday. Seth ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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