DAT-heads Digest #44
Contents:
re: 96k vs. 48k sample rates ("Doug Nawrocki")
Phish Dats for Blanks (DAVEDARC@aol.com)
Gov't Mule Tix - Warfield ("Charlie Miller")
ISO Sonny144@aol.com ("Brooks J. Taffner")
9.11.01 (EBowne@aol.com)
ISO CAKE (Dan Sisler)
fleck/meyer taping policy (Allan Chen)
Sound Card advice ("Brad Wiseman")
ISO: USED SONY D-8. (john.clarke@saltlake2002.com)
Re: 11db or 20db attenuator cable for D100+CSC? (Len Moskowitz)
Replacement DAT Ni-MH Batteries ("Jayson")
Shure Line Matching Transformer (August West)
LoS (Austin) Stubbs tonight! 9/14 special guest. (Jeff Anderson)
Radio 3 UK jazz concerts---contact(s) needed (Tompixie@aol.com)
Searching 4 Dan Estrin ("DRider")
dat2wav & Audiophile 2496 ("Jamie Lutch")
96 Khz Hoopla (-bob)
From: "Doug Nawrocki" <dnawrocki@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: re: 96k vs. 48k sample rates
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:28:48 -0400
> As I move into the world of laptop based 24bit field recording, I'm posed
> with the question of "what to buy for outboard mic pre and A/D".
Hey Nick and all,
I've been wondering about this myself. What's the advantage of having
outboard A/D if you have a card that already has a 24 bit converter present?
Could you possibly face a buffer underrun while trying to record? If that's
the case you could do that while transferring any analog info also. I
obviously see the benefit of an outboard pre but the A/D converter, that I'm
skeptical about, there are some cards out there that claim to do a great job
at 24 bit conversion...
Peace,
Doug
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From: DAVEDARC@aol.com
Subject: Phish Dats for Blanks
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:24:28 EDT
After a couple years, Ifinally converted these killer Midwest shows to disc
and would like to trade the Dats for blanks. Preferably Maxell, Sony, or
Quantegy.
Source is Akg483>OadeM242>SBM1>DAP1 . These are first generation from the
source. Sound great, and Like I say are killer shows, check the setlists.
Phish 7/24/99 Alpine Valley (2 x60m)
Phish 7/25/99 Deer Creek (2x60m)
Phish 7/26/99 Deer Creek (2x60m)
Peace to all.
One way or another, this darkness has got to give.....
From: "Charlie Miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: Gov't Mule Tix - Warfield
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:53:42 -0700
I have 3 tix for sale for the gov't mule show on 9/20/01 at the Warfield,
if anyone is intersted.
One in Row A and Two in Row E.
cm
From: "Brooks J. Taffner" <brookster1@prodigy.net>
Subject: ISO Sonny144@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:13:15 -0500
TWIMC -
If anyone has heard from Sonny144 let me know -
he is not responding to email & he is a fine
NYC trader and a very nice guy -
I hope that anyone else who trades w/ NYC tapers
has made efforts to contact - on this national day
of prayer & remembrance....
Brooks
Temple, Tx
From: EBowne@aol.com
Subject: 9.11.01
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:32:20 EDT
Allthough it is out of context a bit... its words ring true at a time like
this... Here are some thoughts from the late great Dr. King....
"Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and
immoral. It is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in
destruction for all. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent
rather than win his understanding; it seeks to annihilate rather than to
convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive
out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies
violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of
destruction....The chain reaction of evil--hate begetting hate, wars
producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark
abyss of annihilation." MLK
From: Dan Sisler <dansisler@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO CAKE
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:46:33 -0700 (PDT)
has anyone taped CAKE on their recent west coast tour? i spoke with the horns
player, vince last night and learned they arent against the taping of their
shows....he says it is venue dependent.
i have plenty to offer in return and would surely like to get the band a copy
as well.
thanks for the space.
peace, dan
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From: Allan Chen <kaiyen@stanford.edu>
Subject: fleck/meyer taping policy
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:12:25 -0700
greetings,
does anyone know the taping policy for bela fleck/edgar meyer
shows? I have this inclination that Edgar Meyer doesn't like taping...but
can't locate such info.
thanks,
allan
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From: "Brad Wiseman" <wiseman@redhawkaig.com>
Subject: Sound Card advice
Reply-To: <wiseman@redhawkaig.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:14:00 -0400
Terry <Gear119348@aol.com> wrote:
>> I'm overwhelmed by the choice of souncards. I'm trying to find an
>> economical card that I can use to transfer from my Dat deck to my
>> computer (for cdr burning). Does anybody have any suggestions? I
>> don't need a lot of "bells and whistles", just a nice simple card
>> with a digi in jack that doesn't compromise the integrity of my "ones
>> and zeros" during the transfer.
>> Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Len Moskowitz wrote:
> I can highly recommend the Midiman/M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card.
> It sounds very good, is unusually reasonably priced and installs
> cleanly in almost all computer configurations. It has both analog I/O
> and coaxial digital I/O. And it has Midi too -- useful if you're a
> musician.
>
> You can find details about it on our Web page.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
> Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
> Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
> moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
Terry,
I agree with Len (mostly), but there is one thing that you should realize about this card that no one seems to be very willing to talk about. M-Audio advertises the Audiophile 2496 as compatible with Windows 2000, but the drivers DO NOT SUPPORT S/PDIF OUTPUT from wav files on Windows 2000 machines. It's a really sweet solution for Windows 98 machines, but not yet a good choice for a unidecker who wishes to clone DATs on a Windows 2000 machine. I bought mine over 4 months ago and M-Audio promised updated drivers to address this issue "within a couple of weeks". There is still no solution and I see no evidence that they are pursuing a solution to this issue.
Again, great card, but poor Windows 2000 support.
Regards,
Brad Wiseman
From: john.clarke@saltlake2002.com
Subject: ISO: USED SONY D-8.
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:42:02 -0600
I'm still looking for a used SONY D-8. Please e-mail if you can help me
out. Also, if anyone has some shock mounts and T-bars to sell, please let
me know. Thanks.
JMC
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From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 11db or 20db attenuator cable for D100+CSC?
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:52:55 -0400 (EDT)
Luke, "c t" <crakt@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i brickwalled for the first time last weekend with a D100 using Core Sound
> Cardioids(with mic attenuator switch set to 20db)
>
> will a 11db attenuator cable avoid this, or do i need a 20db one??
It sounds as if this is the first time you've faced mic pre-amp overload
after many successful field recordings. If that's so, I'd recommend
that you start with an 11 dB attenuator cable.
Also, be sure that you were using the "manual" setting. The "auto"
setting can't keep up with quick level changes and will overload more
easily.
I hope that this helps.
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: "Jayson" <hammering@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Replacement DAT Ni-MH Batteries
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:04:10 -0500
Is there a good place to get replacement Sony DAT Rechargeable Ni-MH AA
batteries on the web?
Jayson
'SMASH THE SYSTEM!!!'
"trying to fix or change something, only guarantees and perpetuates its
existance."
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Trader of CDRs
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From: August West <acme_safes@yahoo.com>
Subject: Shure Line Matching Transformer
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT)
Is anyone familiar with this device? I read the specs
from Shure and am still not sure how to use it. (Damn
it Jim, I'm a taper not an electrical engineer.) The
rig is AKG 460B's plugged directly into a D8. When
using this device would I use the line in or mic in?
Any info would be appreciated.
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From: Jeff Anderson <janderson@nustats.com>
Subject: LoS (Austin) Stubbs tonight! 9/14 special guest.
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:27:45 -0500
Hey freakers,
Just wanted to update you about the Leftover Salmon
show tonight at Stubbs (in Austin), the only member they are missing
is the drummer, and we found a incredible replacement for
him, Pat Mastelotto, the drummer for King Crimson,
California Guitar Trio, & Tool....incredibly talented...should
be a great treat!
Hope some of you can make it!
Showtime 8:30pm sharp - no opening act
Flounders Without Eyes - afterparty 11:30-2am!
Get ready to throw DOWN!
Jeff
From: Tompixie@aol.com
Subject: Radio 3 UK jazz concerts---contact(s) needed
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:25:14 EDT
hello one and all
I have been trying to get a contact in UK or even mainland Europe (satellite)
to get the Radio 3 jazz concerts that air every week
upcoming--- [UK times here]
9/21 1130--1am Django Bates
9/22 4-5pm Chick Corea
9/28 1130--1am John Scofield
If anyone can help me get these specific shows, or be a reliable future
contact, please give me a buzz
thanks TOM
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Searching 4 Dan Estrin
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 22:16:22 -0400
Dan Estrin,
Are you out there?
If so, please respond!
Has anyone heard from Dan??
Peace & Love,
Darrin
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From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: dat2wav & Audiophile 2496
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:36:20 -0700
I was never able to get it to work correctly (in other words, it extracts,
but cant repeat it again with the same bits). To me that makes it
unsuitable
for transfers!
> > From: Erich Eyler <eyler@panix.com>
> > Subject: dat2wav questions
> > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:25 -0400
> >
> > If someone has gotten dat2wav working,
> > could they please give me a shout.
> >
> > -Erich
Len said:
> > I can highly recommend the Midiman/M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card.
It
> > sounds very good, is unusually reasonably priced and installs cleanly in
> > almost all computer configurations. It has both analog I/O and coaxial
> > digital I/O. And it has Midi too -- useful if you're a musician.
great card for dat>pc, but for those who want to get into 24-bit material,
be warned. Although this is advertised as a 24-bit card, it will only work
with certain apps that support wdm, such as cubase, nuendo, and sonar. It
is
NOT 24-bit compatable with more common apps such as soundforge 5.0 and
winamp, which is likely what you'd prob. use to listen to some of the
24-bit
stuff thats circualting these days...
-Jamie
>
>
>
From: -bob <bp@gti.net>
Subject: 96 Khz Hoopla
Reply-To: bp@gti.net
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:49:12 -0400
No. Resolution is bits. As in 24 bit vs.16 bit.
This gives dynamic range or "headroom."
Sample rate primarily relates to frequency response,
as in 0-24 KHz (48K sampling) vs. 0-48Khz (96K sampling).
Since ear can respond basically from 40-16Khz, virtually no
benefit exists.
The older you are, the less it matters, as you upper limit drops
in frequency with age.
Some fanatics(?) and purists believe that psycho-acoustic properties
are affected by sample rate. (Phase-shifts are an "addition" to
frequency).
Most folks can't seem to hear it and wouldn't consider doubling their
file sizes
and media costs for it.
Others will send e-mails telling me that I'm deaf for not hearing the
difference. :-)
Cheers,
-Bob
(Who was at Led Zepplin and The Who "back in the days")
>>My question is....
>>What would be the benefit of 96k over 48k?
>>I understand that it is 2x the amount of samples. That should
basically
>>double the resolution of what is captured, correct?
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