DAT-heads Digest #45
Contents:
dat2wav (Alan Saferstein)
FT: G3 in San Diego (".")
Re: 96K Hoopla ("Gary Davis")
Audiophile for Win2k ("Doug Nawrocki")
Audiophile2496 & NI-MH batteries ("Jamie Lutch")
Re: 96K Hoopla (Seth Breidbart)
Extra DATS ("Trey Woodruff")
Todd Snyder/ John Prine.... ("Michael Ryan")
FT: Billy Joel 6/10/76 Bottom Line, NYC ("liverich@sunlink.net")
ISO: Frank Marino 9-9-01, montreal ("Mark E.")
FS: Schoeps CCM4 Microphones and extras (Matthew Blum)
Taper needed: KCRW, Santa Monica, CA, Sunday, 16 Sept 2001 (Nadyne Mielke)
Black Sabbath 8/12/01, and picking up where I left off... ("john e. bogus")
Vinyl ("DRider")
From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: dat2wav
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 01:24:16 -0400
I use vdat and highly recommend it. It works excellent with my
Seagate/SGI DDS in Win98 SR2.
Alan
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From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: dat2wav & Audiophile 2496
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:36:20 -0700
I was never able to get it to work correctly (in other words, it
extracts,
but cant repeat it again with the same bits). To me that makes it
unsuitable for transfers!
> > From: Erich Eyler <eyler@panix.com>
> > Subject: dat2wav questions
> > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:25 -0400
> >
> > If someone has gotten dat2wav working,
> > could they please give me a shout.
> >
> > -Erich
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From: "." <chunksmyhero@yahoo.com>
Subject: FT: G3 in San Diego
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 22:32:16 -0700
G3 - John Petrucci, Steve Vai & Joe Satriani
San Diego, CA
June 28, 2001
Taped all three acts DFC - John Petrucci, Steve Vai & Joe Satriani. Sound
is really good, performances were amazing - especially Steve Vai -
un-flipping-beleivable.
Sony TCD-D100 DAT & Sound Professional slimline cardiods (AT853s)
DAT >> 7-pin digital out thingy >> Delta DiO 2496 >> Sound Forge >> CDWav >>
Nero
Let me know if you are interested in trading. Each musician is on a
separate CD, 3 discs total with the encore on the end of the Satriani disc
only. I will also be B&P and vining this show as well once initial trades
are completed.
***READ THIS***
My single, simple request is that you do NOT sell this, spread the music -
make mp3s, play and copy this for your friends, trade, (and buy the studio
albums!). DO NOT sell this, it is not yours - the music belongs to the
musicians. Seriously - don't be a dickhead.
~ chunksmyhero@yahoo.com
http://bootleg.madwizard.net:5150/
set times:
John Petrucci - 41:56
Steve Vai - 50:55
Joe Satriani - 71:46 w/ encore
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From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Re: 96K Hoopla
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:29:44 -0700
I second what Bob has said.
There is no scientific evidence that people can hear frequencies
higher than a 48K or even 44.1K recorder can capture. (Ie, approx
22KHz and 20Khz respectively, with the low-pass filtering).
Higher sampling rates are a scam to sell tons of new equipment,
more media, and sadly, render DAT tape obsolete.
Going beyond 16 bits is a touch more controversial. It does give
you more dynamic range, but especially for live recordings, you
would never have any sound quiet enough to take advantage of bits
17-24. On the other hand, some people claim that lowering
distortion in very soft sounds is beneficial. I don't really buy that
either.
More than 16 bits could be useful in multitrack recording, where
you're combining the noise floor of many tracks; especially in live
situations where you don't know how loud things will be and want
to set conservative levels.
But for 2-channel audience tapes, and soundboard tapes unless all
the gear is A+ (example:phish), I seriously doubt you could hear
more than 16 bits, and I guarantee you can't hear above 48K
sampling (ie: 22KHz frequency response on a Sony portable dat).
Now - for people trying to make direct hard disk recordings - your
bigest problem will be data loss because you are getting too much
data too fast. So the absolute last thing you'd want to do is double
or triple the amount of data you need to record, for no audio benefit,
and also virtually no way to play back the original "highband"
recording.
--Gary
From: "Doug Nawrocki" <dnawrocki@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Audiophile for Win2k
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 06:31:11 -0400
Hey Brad and All,
I have Winblows2000 and it did take me using the new drivers, which
Delta has had out for the last 3 months now, to get it to work. The driver
revision is 5.12.1.20. If you're not using that one, it is available at
MAudio/Midiman's website. You need to totally remove the existence of any
current driver and even change the PCI slot prior to installing the new
driver, MAudio also has a file on the site that will get any existing driver
off there.
The driver issue wasn't the only issue I had to resolve with the
Audiophile and Win2k. Win2k has a pretty bad habit of sharing mass devices
IRQ 9. I have Roadrunner as my Internet Provider and since the Code Red
virus they have been pinging everyone's modem, here in Cincy, continuously.
I was getting pops in my transferred stuff and guessed it everything from
the card to my DA-P1 to the Sony DG's I switched to. I contacted MAudio and
they suggested I switch from "ACPI Mode" to "Standard PC Mode." This was
kinda scary to me 'cause he said it could make the OS go south, it didn't. I
had to reinstall a few drivers, make sure if you're gonna attempt this you
have all your drivers present. This solved the problem of the pops,
apparently the constant pinging was accompanied by regular port scans and
all that activity on the same IRQ was creating the pops. If you are having
this issue with the Audiophile and Win2k, contact MAudio's tech support, and
plan on holding forever, and they will give you instructions on how to
resolve it. I spoke with David Muniz there, he seemed pretty knowledgeable,
and he said he's had to walk people through this tons of times.
The Delta Audiophile for Windows2k is a great choice, IMHO, if you have
the time and patience to work out the bugs...
Peace,
Doug
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From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: Audiophile2496 & NI-MH batteries
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 08:33:56 -0700
> I agree with Len (mostly), but there is one thing that you should realize
about this card that no one seems to be very willing to talk about. M-Audio
advertises the Audiophile 2496 as compatible with Windows 2000, but the
drivers DO NOT SUPPORT S/PDIF OUTPUT from wav files on Windows 2000
machines. It's a really sweet solution for Windows 98 machines, but not yet
a good choice for a unidecker who wishes to clone DATs on a Windows 2000
machine. I bought mine over 4 months ago and M-Audio promised updated
drivers to address this issue "within a couple of weeks". There is still no
solution and I see no evidence that they are pursuing a solution to this
issue.
>
> Again, great card, but poor Windows 2000 support.
Well, actually, it does work with win2k if you go to their drivers page
(http://www.midiman.net/drivers.htm) and download the 'DELTA BETA WDM
Multiclient Driver-For 2000 only' under windows 2000. But again, its only
16bit for most apps. In any case, keep in mind that this card uses the same
chipset as the $10-20 nightingale card, but has some more I/O options. I'd
try that card first personally....
Jayson asked:
> Is there a good place to get replacement Sony DAT Rechargeable Ni-MH AA
> batteries on the web?
www.thomasdistributing.com
-Jamie
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 96K Hoopla
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:46:56 -0400 (EDT)
One advantage of more bits is that you don't have to set levels.
Given that the final result will be, say, a CD at 16 bits, 44.1 kHz,
I'd rather record 24 bits at -20 dB and normalize later. That way, I
don't have to worry about the levels I record at, and I'll still have
a full 16 bits of accuracy on playback (plus a fraction more if I do
noise-shaping when rounding to 16 bits).
When I don't know the levels to expect, that's a big win; even when I
do know them, I'm a few dB better off.
Seth
From: "Trey Woodruff" <twoodruff@jam.rr.com>
Subject: Extra DATS
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:27:21 -0500
I have many extra dats of Widespread Panic from 98-01, email me privately
for list, looking to sell these, I have fallen upon rough financial times
Thanks
Trey
From: "Michael Ryan" <beerman@gte.net>
Subject: Todd Snyder/ John Prine....
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:48:31 -0700
Hey Now All , Saw these performers last week and found out after the
show that Todd is all for taping his show. The Guy is very good and quite
funny, So ask for him before the show and he should be able to help you get
your gear in. Wish I could have gotten this guy on tape. John is playing
very well and has a couple of XLNT guys playing with him....
Peace, Michael
From: "liverich@sunlink.net" <liverich@sunlink.net>
Subject: FT: Billy Joel 6/10/76 Bottom Line, NYC
Reply-To: liverich@sunlink.net
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:06:26 -0400
Just burned discs of this DAT from an excellent FM. Given the recent
events in the city and references during the show, I thought it would be
a good time to burn and offer it. I'm NOT interested in more Billy Joel.
If interested in this and a DSBD of his Syracuse 11/13/93 show on
another DAT, send a list. Rich
From: "Mark E." <mcextr@concentric.net>
Subject: ISO: Frank Marino 9-9-01, montreal
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:20:41 -0400
hello,
was wonderin if anyone had taped frank marino and
mahogony rush in montreal on sept. 9? please let me know,
i have some frank and other stuff to trade..
mark e
From: Matthew Blum <miblum@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Schoeps CCM4 Microphones and extras
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 17:31:21 -0700 (PDT)
Hey there, I am going to be upgrading to some B&K's
here real soon, so I need to sell this gear. I am
selling a matched pair of Schoeps CCM4 Cardiod mics.
These have the attached 5 meter xlr cables and are
bodyless. These are perfect for stealthing as they are
the exact size and look of the MK4 everyone has become
accustmed to and you dont need the active cable or a
vms, these can be used with any preamp that accepts
XLR inputs. The mics have been used 11 times total
and are in pristine condition. They are in their
original boxes as well. I also have the schoeps a20
elastic suspension mounts and windtech pro mic screens
built for the schoeps ccm4. So you are completely
ready to go for taping allowed acts as long as you
have a stand and T-Bar. The mics sell for 3100 new
and the windscreens and mounts ran a little over 200.
Im am looking at all serious offers. Thanks for
listening. peace yall.
matthew
miblum@yahoo.com
P.S. have sample tapes if you would like to hear, just
let me know.
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From: Nadyne Mielke <nadyne@rmta.org>
Subject: Taper needed: KCRW, Santa Monica, CA, Sunday, 16 Sept 2001
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:08:27 -0700
I'm in need of someone to tape something from KCRW in Santa Monica on
Sunday, 16 Sept 2001.
I'm a unidecker, so I can't trade DATs, but I have an extensive collection
of CD-Rs to trade (mostly Tori Amos, some Cowboy Junkies and others).
Here's the long description from The Dent <http://www.thedent.com/> (the
best source for Tori news):
Erin Dolll informs me that Tori is scheduled to appear on Ground Zero with
Chris Douridas on September 15, 2001. Ground Zero is a weekly radio program
that appears on radio station KCRW in Santa Monica, CA every Saturday. You
can listen to that radio station online with live net feeds available at
kcrw.org. The show is broadcast on Saturdays from noon until 2:00PM PT and
repeated again on Sundays 10:00AM until Noon PT.
Here is a description of the show from a KCRW newsletter:
This week on Ground Zero, a very special visit with TORI AMOS. Recorded in
England, this encounter with one of pop's true originals, features
exclusive live performances of songs from Tori's new album, "Strange Little
Girls," as well as an illuminating conversation with host Chris Douridas.
This show is also available online at Spinner.com.
-*-
Did anyone tape this on Saturday, or can tape it on Sunday?
TIA. :)
/nm
From: "john e. bogus" <mallness@surfbest.net>
Subject: Black Sabbath 8/12/01, and picking up where I left off...
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:10:18 -0400
My latest offering for the list is Black Sabbath 8/12/01, PNC Bank Arts
Center, Homdel, NJ. This was stealthed from the very front, very center of
the lawn and is the best sounding of the 3 shows I taped on this tour. 70
minutes, A- quality. The other two shows I taped were posted
earlier....anyone else who taped on this tour who I haven't heard from yet?
To anyone else interested in this run of shows or future postings for my
masters through the present time, here's my current trade status: Behind
since the spring due to equipment failure, I am now caught up with all
trades for all masters posted here as available. Now to get current on
posting and quickly sending out the rest of this summer's masters....this
round will be limited to 4 tapes per person for those interested....anyone
else for Black Sabbath/Ozzfest 7/20/01, 7/28/01, and 8/12/01 before I move
on? I am now making tapes for all those who have confirmed this trade with
me so far. I have 2 or 3 people waiting for longer trades once masters up
to the current date are sent. Thanks to all those who have waited patiently
for me to catch up, and thanks to those of you who are waiting for the
longer trades....I'll be with you as soon as I can. Who said that us rock
tapers never offer BWT? I'll be glad to take my turn as soon as I get
current with my postings.....more to come soon....thanks for the posting....
john e. bogus
mallness@surfbest.net
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Vinyl
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:41:22 -0400
Hey Now!
I have always wanted to see these guys.
Does anyone know their current taping policy?
Thanx!
BWT: Derek Trucks 12/28/00 Jacksonville, FL
Schoeps cmc 64>Sonosax>HHB
90m DAT ~ONLY~
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