DAT-heads Digest #59
Contents:
Audiophile 2496 digital sound card (henry@dmbtapers.org)
Re: security upgrades? (Eugene Hu)
security (Robert O'Haire)
Looking for Ozomatli ("John Book")
WKCR coltrane's b-day broadcast (david)
Mike Wyatt (of Firehose) Taping Policy? (Jeff Lester)
airport xray machines ("lochs o' dread")
Grateful Dead Dats - Round 3 Closed ("Paul Gibian")
Air Travel ("DRider")
ISO: MULE 2001!! Have alot to trade !! (Dave D)
ISO Phil 7/4/01 ("Paul Gibian")
SCI Vegas DATs (Chinascats@aol.com)
FS Matched Pair of B&K 4022's ("Eric Pellegrino")
FS: SR77's(matched) and AT933's ("Chuck Tombasco")
Re: My bit on 24 bits (Dan Heend)
Any iMac users out there? ("Jackson Gibbs")
DPA 4061 requirements ("Alisdair Menzies")
ctd (=?iso-8859-1?q?el=20paquisto?=)
Question about song titles and artists from last week... ("Gary Davis")
Info about Johnny Cash tribute ("Enrico Perissinotto")
re:contact or surveillance mics (Clark Guy)
Zoltrix Nightingale 6.0 and Windoze ME? (Kris Schuett)
MP3 Loudon Wainwright catches a taper. King Kat Theater, (JH)
FT: Used PCM-M1 ("Joe Totoraitis")
mixer discussion ("Neil Sturtevant")
From: henry@dmbtapers.org
Subject: Audiophile 2496 digital sound card
Date: 24 Sep 2001 15:17:05 -0700
Hello all,
I'd be most grateful if someone could tell me if this sound card resamples:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1277946438
Danke shane...
H!
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http://www.grahamfxmm.clara.net/celebs/nicole/001.jpg
Ohhhhh, to be the father of her children...
Damn you Liam, DAMN YOU!
From: Eugene Hu <eugene@goto.com>
Subject: Re: security upgrades?
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:23:06 -0700
> how big a deal will the changes to security be?
>
> in my experience taping 10 shows since 9/11/01, i've seen absolutely no
> change in security policy at any of the six venues involved. At the
> taper friendly shows (two of the 10), they didn't even bother to search
> my bag.
>
> I'm certain that other folks will have other experiences...i guess it comes
> down to paranoia on the part of the folks running the venues...maybe the
> clubs out here on the left coast are less worried about terroristas
> targeting them for kingdom come.
Bay Area venues seem to have the least invasive searches of anywhere
I've been. YMMV.
-Eugene
From: Robert O'Haire <plummer@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: security
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:43:59 -0400
For what it's worth...
Having just been in Amsterdam taping shows in Holland and Paris prior
to 9/11...I returned on the 18th traveling with video camera, lots of
wires, my Schoeps/MP2/micstand/tripod/lithiums and 2 portable DAT
decks in a pelican case.
The security is extensive (2-3 separate checks) and the x-ray units
are set to full blast...bags appear to stay in the scanner for up to
2 minutes each...hence the long lines at check-in.
But I was not asked to open any of my bags once..even at JFK when I
arrived in NYC..where searching of bags is normal if you are
declaring items or have long hair or are traveling from Amsterdam.
As in any case never joke about security issues anywhere near a plane
and you should have a great flight.
Robert
downtown NYC
From: "Stanley W. Smith" <swsmith@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re stealthing . . .
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:14:04 -0500
I don't do much stealthing anymore, so it's not getting into the shows I'm
having trouble with...
it's the thought of trying to board an airplane with lots of wires,
suspicious non-transparent to x-ray
boxes, and a pile of lead-acid batteries that's bothering me. It was bad
enough before 9/11 but now
there's gonna' be a lot more ground transportation and rental cars in my
future. ;)
Stan Smith
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From: "John Book" <johnbook@yadig.com>
Subject: Looking for Ozomatli
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:14:34 -0700
Hello once again. I am looking for any and all Ozomatli shows, including future shows. Some of you have helped me in obtaining a few, so I want to thank everyone who has written in. All shows that I receive will be forwarded to Ozo member Ulises Bella for their archives.
The band are now on the "bands that allow taping" list, so I hope to see more shows documented in the future. A lot of people have been asking me about Ozo's taping policy, and getting board patches. The band *USED* to allow BA before, but not sure now. If I get a response, I'll let everyone know. If you head to the venue before the show, ask for their soundman, Ricky. Or talk to Wil-Dog or Uli (ooh-lee).
My Ozoland.net domain is down until I find a new server, until then you can go to http://216.122.180.72
Nuff plugging.
p.e.a.c.e.
-John Book
nothing of importance here:
www.john-book.com
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http://www.yadig.com
From: david <slowtrain@mediaone.net>
Subject: WKCR coltrane's b-day broadcast
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:42:43 -0400
what's the chance a dathead recorded all or part of the coltrane birthday
broadcast on wkcr sunday, which featured some very rare, previously unheard
session tapes?
lots to trade....
dwb
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.sp.trw.com>
Subject: Mike Wyatt (of Firehose) Taping Policy?
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:52:36 -0700 (PDT)
"Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com> asked:
>A friend of mine has asked me if I could record an upcoming show by
>Mike Wyatt (of the punk band Firehose and others) for him. Does anyone
>know what his current taping policy is and if there is anything else
>I should be aware of taping such a foreign (to me) genre of music?
That's Mike Watt, no "y". Our DAT-heads friend Mr. Gary Davis has taped
Mike and his numerous projects on many occasions. Pretty sure he is taper
friendly.
-Jeff Lester
From: "lochs o' dread" <lochsofdread@hotmail.com>
Subject: airport xray machines
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:12:19 -0700
hello all,
just wondering.... is it not a good idea to let a TCD-D8, or DAT tapes, go
through the airport x-ray machines in risk of potential magnetic damage?
any experience /suggestions w/ recent happenings are greatly appreciated.
marty s.
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From: "Paul Gibian" <ikoiko2u@home.com>
Subject: Grateful Dead Dats - Round 3 Closed
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:22:32 -0700
Sorry for the broadcast notice I had a ton of responses. Thanks to everyone
who responded. Look for Round 4 late October...
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Air Travel
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:35:56 -0400
Hey Now!
Stan brings up a VERY valid point. I have been thinking about
this for well over a week now.........
This Summer I had absolutely NO problem. In fact, I was
shocked and amazed of the ease through which I passed
through security. And quite happy Taboot Taboot!
My biggest fear is that time is long gone.
So....
Has anyone traveled via airplane w/ taping equipment??
Specifically... Seal Lead-Acid batteries??
If so, please share your experiences w/ the group ")
Peace On Earth,
Darrin
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From: "Stanley W. Smith" <swsmith@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re stealthing . . .
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:14:04 -0500
I don't do much stealthing anymore, so it's not getting into the shows I'm
having trouble with...
it's the thought of trying to board an airplane with lots of wires,
suspicious non-transparent to x-ray boxes, and a pile of lead-acid
batteries that's bothering me. It was bad enough before 9/11 but now
there's gonna' be a lot more ground transportation and rental cars in my
future. ;)
Stan Smith
From: Dave D <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: MULE 2001!! Have alot to trade !!
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:39:00 -0700 (PDT)
If theres anyone out there who Has the
9-21-01 Hollywood and the 9-22-01 Vegas Mule
Shows or any 2001 shows that I don't have....WE
NEED TO TRADE! Heres my Dat List: http://www.webspawner.com/users/muledat
=====
Thanks
Dave Dimartino
18344 Amie Ave House A
Torrance,Ca.90504
To view my ENTIRE music collection consisting of store bought cd's , Master Analog>Digital Domain (ADD) or just full blown digital(DDD)to formats:DAT,PCM & CDr , well heck just point and click right here> http://www.webspawner.com/users/dats
Now be careful....theres a total of 10 pages!
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From: "Paul Gibian" <ikoiko2u@home.com>
Subject: ISO Phil 7/4/01
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:48:19 -0700
Went to this show and would love a copy. Sorry for the grovel :)
Paul
From: Chinascats@aol.com
Subject: SCI Vegas DATs
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:19:02 EDT
I have an extra copty of both Vegas shows on DAT. I am looking to trade it
for any other summer Cheese I'm missing. Let me know if anybody is
interested. The source in MNHO603>MP2>ADC20>DAP1.
From: "Eric Pellegrino" <eric@tuxedojunction.com>
Subject: FS Matched Pair of B&K 4022's
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:34:39 -0400
I have a matched pair of 4022's for sale. I also have a cxy4000 mic adapter
as well as a schoeps ortf bar. If interested please contact me!
thanks
eric
eric@tuxedojunction.com
From: "Chuck Tombasco" <chazthespazz@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: SR77's(matched) and AT933's
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:12:32 -0400
hey all,
i just purchased some schoeps ccm4's and i am now looking to sell the gear
that i already have....
-Matched pair of SR77's. These mics are in excellent condition and are just
excellent mics all around. The only thing they dont come with are the tubes
that are used to carry them, but I made a case that protects them much
better than the tubes that is included. Also included is windscreens and a
20' pair of XLR cables for no extra charge. I am looking to get 700 for
everything, but if you are TRULY interested email me and we can talk.
-I also have a pair of AT933's that are mounted in Croakies, with an
attached batter box that has selectable bass roll off. Also included is an
adapter to go into any preamp that has XLR inputs, and a 20dB pad incase
your levels are too hot for the pre. I am looking to get 200 for this
package, but the same goes as above. If you are TRULY interested email me
off list and we can talk.
THANKS YALL!!
Chuck Tombasco =)
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From: Dan Heend <ccryder@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: My bit on 24 bits
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 01:15:20 -0400
"Javi Dieguez" <jdieguez@wanadoo.es> wrote:
>>>
Multiplying by a
factor of 2 is an immediate solution as the bits don't get altered,
but why not just multiply by any integer number?. No "rounding" will
take place in this case as well and I can't see why this is wrong.
Unfortunately, using cooledit for this task does not seem to work well.
If I multiply by, say 400% and then by 25% I don't get the same bits
as in the original file. What software should be used?
<<<
I believe Samplitude 2496 has an option for *2 and /2. While you are
correct
that any integer *multiplier* (the same cannot be guaranteed for integer
divisors) should not cause any additional error,
I know of no software that will allow you to specify an integer multiplier.
Also given that every *2 gives *approximiately* 6dB increase (I think it's
actually more like 6.02dB),
I can't imagine that you'd regularly need anything more than that for a
level adjustment anyway.
I suspect that perhaps Cooledit doesn't start with the integer number,
but rather treats 200% as the addition of 6dB, and performs that
calculation accordingly, resulting in
the inaccuracies you describe.
But I'm pretty sure (admittedly I haven't done the full test myself) that
Samplitude's *2 and /2
functions just rolls the bits to the right and left respectively.
Seth B. and I once had a discussion on this topic while setting up at a
Kimock show at Wetlands....
Ahhh.... Wetlands.... remember that place?
-Dan
From: "Jackson Gibbs" <gibbs@crater.net>
Subject: Any iMac users out there?
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:20:26 -0700
I've been considering simplifying my home computer lately by replacing it
with a new iMac.
I was just wondering if there is anyone out there doing dat->pc transfers
with an iMac (or similar mac via usb). I'll also need a dsl modem, if
you've got a suggestion on that...
Thanks,
Jackson Gibbs
From: "Alisdair Menzies" <alimenzies@hotmail.com>
Subject: DPA 4061 requirements
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:22:00 +0200
Greetiings, all,
I was wondering if anyone knows what DPA 4061's need as far as voltage
requirements, etc are concerned. I need to know this, as I'd like to know if
my sound professionals battery box would be appropriate with these, as I do
not have a DPA battery box. Does anyone know if this is possible?
Many thanks,
Alisdair
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?el=20paquisto?= <crappysoundingbinaurals@yahoo.no>
Subject: ctd
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:26:17 +0200 (CEST)
hello
does crash test dummies allow taping?
--m
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From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Question about song titles and artists from last week...
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:22:55 -0700
Hi, trying to identify a few artists from the "Tribute to Heros"
concert.
Can somebody please tell me the woman at the piano in the last
half-hour of the show who sang something like "Safe and Sound"?
Also, does anyone know the guy who came on after Tom Petty and
before Neil Young?
thank you,
--Gary
From: "Enrico Perissinotto" <enrico@pemo.com>
Subject: Info about Johnny Cash tribute
Reply-To: "Enrico Perissinotto" <enrico@pemo.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:05:12 +0200
Hello to everybody,
some months ago I received a very nice DigFM recording (swiss broadcast) of
"An All Star Tribute to Johnny Cash", w Sheryl Crow, Bob Dylan, U2, Bruce
Springsteen, Wyclef Jean, Kris Kristofferson, The Mavericks, Dave Matthews,
June Carter Cash, Johnny Cash and others.
Can anybody help with date, place and any other info about this show? Also,
is there perhaps any longer version around (not aud, only SBD or FM please)?
Regards,
Enrico
DAT list (not updated) at: www.pemo.com/ENrico_DAT.htm
From: Clark Guy <guy.clark@sbt.siemens.com>
Subject: re:contact or surveillance mics
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:53:29 -0500
HI, Robert!
One thing that comes to mind is the use of an Infra Red wireless
transmitter/receiver. There are such devices made rather inexpensively for
coupling the sound from a stereo or TV to headphones without using wires.
The sound quality can be suprisingly good, considering the low cost (I paid
less than US$40 for my old Memorex brand IR system, ten years ago).
You'll need to amplify the signal from the mics, but a cheap old cassette
recorder that has mic inputs would work for this purpose. Duct tape the
transmitter to an exterior window and the receiver on the inside of the
window where the best signal is received, and connect the receiver to your
sound system in the gallery. Be sure to protect all electronic stuff that
is outside from the weather!!!!
You may have some logistical problems with this, particularly if your
gallery isn't on the ground floor!, but perhaps this will spark your
creativitiy!!!
Hope this helps!
Guy Clark
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Robert Seals <rseals@telerama.com>
Subject: contact or surveillance mics
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 18:54:04 -0400
Hey heads -
I'm attempting to do an installation piece for a
collaborative art exhibition, and intended to put
a couple of mics outside and broadcast the world
into an interior space, but the people that own the
building say I can't breach the wall. So, I'm
wondering how I can accomplish that. I thought about
some contact mics on windows, but I'm not sure if
that would work. Does anyone have any ideas about
how to get sound from "outside" into "inside?" I'd
really appreciate any thoughts.
Thanks -
Robert
From: Kris Schuett <KSchuett@envstd.com>
Subject: Zoltrix Nightingale 6.0 and Windoze ME?
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:16:08 -0400
Been thinking about ordering the new Nightingale 6.0 card (digi coax and
optical Ins for $50?!) but was curious if anyone has this one up and running
with Windoze ME? It says on the web page that 95/98/2000 are supported but
is mum on ME. Two emails to the company regarding OS queries have gone
unanswered (hmm, this may not bode well for tech support in the future, eh?)
so, I thought I check with y'all.
Also, any users with good/bad comments about the card in general? Read the
reviews on a few web pages but I don't really give a hoot about how well it
reproduces whatever grunt/blaster game sound compared to competitor card X -
I just want an affordable way to get the music on my DATs into my computer
and onto discs. My other choice seems to come down to the Midiman options
but I'd have to grab the coax/optical to boot (roughly $200 - a darned sight
more than the Zoltrix option...)
Anywho, help/guidance from those in the know is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Tof
BWT: Remunerated as soon as I get this whole I/O quagmire straightened out.
From: JH <kc7fys@pro-ns.net>
Subject: MP3 Loudon Wainwright catches a taper. King Kat Theater,
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:41:37 -0600
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kc7fys2/lst?&.dir=/LoudonWainwright+Catches+a+Taper&.src=bc&.view=l&.last=1
In poor MP3 format, but a hoot!
Any followups?
JH
From: "Joe Totoraitis" <rockumal@hotmail.com>
Subject: FT: Used PCM-M1
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:43:40 -0500
I have a spare used PCM-M1 that I'm looking to trade for a TCD-D8. It has
54 hours of use on the heads. 25 recording 29 playback. It has never
needed servicing and was always babied. However, lately it has had
unloading problems. I am going to be sending the deck in to Paul at Pro
Digital so 1) the unloading problem can be fixed and 2) I can have a
professional inspect the deck so I can say the deck has a "clean bill of
health" when I send it to whomever I send it to. I would prefer to work
with someone who could offer the same sort of assurance. I am also willing
to sell it for $440. I have an opportunity to buy a refirbed D8 from a Sony
outlet for that price which I think is fair. Any serious inquiries please
contact me off list.
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"It's that commitmentless feeling. It's like being addicted
to drugs or nicotine, for that matter. You get so used to it.
You jones for it." - Keller Williams
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From: "Neil Sturtevant" <esteyes@home.com>
Subject: mixer discussion
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:56:55 -0700
yesterday i clipped this:
> > I was researching the Folio Notepad and it seems like a nice compact
> > mixer, but since it doesn't have DC power, I thought it really would
> > only work in limited situations. What has your experience been with
> it?
actually, it is fairly easy to add a dc input option to this unit. ( i also
seem to recall a dc power option offered by spirit/soundcraftsman as well) i
added a switchcraft mini xlr connecter to the top panel next to the ac
input. i use a 12vlead acid battery to feed a +/-15v dc/dc converter which
is then plugged into the mixer. the dc/dc converter can be found a couple of
different ways. last time i ran this was phil and friends at the la greek
and we did a 3 mic mix. my beefs with the unit are: if you use the
headphones, you lose one of only two stereo outputs, and i wish it had
inserts on the channels (although i can say i would rarely use them). the
mixer doesn't weigh very much and while it may not have as perfect a set of
mic pre's as we would all like, i have no complaints.
Neil Sturtevant
"shadowboxing the apocalypse,
wandering the land"
list at: www.tapercities.com/ShakedownStreet/esteyes
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