DAT-heads Digest #65
Contents:
ISO:Seven Nations ("sean hite")
Extra DAT's Up For Grabs (Dave Cohen)
Powering a PS-2 ("Dan O'Neal")
Dont order Kodak's from that site!!! ("Jamie Lutch")
anyone get costello/mingus l.a.?? (TRANEHEAD@aol.com)
ISO london SOLEX tapers??? (TRANEHEAD@aol.com)
Zoltix Nightingale Poll (-bob)
Heather Nova taping policy? ("Bas Ruesink")
FT: Scofield 7.28.01 London FM > D (Mark McHarg)
Re: ?? about CD list info (acffhmorst)
European tapers needed ("Candace Horgan")
ISO December 1993 Grateful Dead Audience Masters ("Matt Vernon")
HOLLY COLE w/ VSO - 11 Dec 2001 ("Derrick Belbas")
Re: Powering a PS-2 ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
Re: Zoltix Nightingale Poll ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
ISO: Tori Amos from Florida Last Night (Matthew Blum)
broken D8 ("--k j--")
Looking for 2001 Lucinda Williams shows... (DM13DM@aol.com)
Re: trackmark transfer from CDRW33 to PCMR500? (Jeff Lester)
FS: AT933's w/battery box ("Chuck Tombasco")
Do either of the following artists allow audience taping? ("Ashevillain")
ISO: USed Home Deck (clint morrison)
From: "sean hite" <seanhite@charter.net>
Subject: ISO:Seven Nations
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:27:02 -0400
just wondering if anyone has any seven nations dats or if anyone
plans on taping Seven Nations? give me a buzz. thanks, sean.
From: Dave Cohen <zeau@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Extra DAT's Up For Grabs
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:38:37 -0400
I've got a handful of extra DAT's I've transferred over to disc - if'n
you want any, they're all yours. I always prefer to trade, but I'm happy
to do B&P as well. Drop me a line if you see anything you like.
Dead 4/22/69 Boston, MA S:R>D 60mx2
Dead 4/27/69 Minneapolis, MN S:R>P>D 60m
Dead 5/26/73 San Francisco, CA S:R>D 60mx2
Dead 12/18/73 Tampa, FL S:R>D 60mx2
ZERO 5/24/87 Bolinas, CA S:?>D 60m
BOB MARLEY 9/23/80 Pittsburgh, PA S:R>P>CD>D 60m
SHERYL CROW 2/25/95 Normal, IL S:D 60m
DAVID BROMBERG 9/3/88 Strawberry Festival FM:P>D 60m
TJ KIRK 1/17/97 Portland, OR S:D 60m
CHARLIE HUNTER 3/29/98 S:D & 5/5/99 A:D 90m
SON VOLT 4/24/97 NYC S:?>D 60m
WOB Tax #1: Absolutely free to the first person who sends me his/her
address, Donna The Buffalo, 10/17/98 Magnolia Festival S:D
WOB Tax #2 Absolutely free to the first person who sends me his her
address (not the same person who takes the first WOB tax), Robert
Walter's 20th Congress 10/14/00, Atlanta S:D
--
Ah, Mr. Zeau, I presume?
Dastardly Dave Cohen
zeau@nc.rr.com
"Pass here and go on, you're on the road to heaven." -Kerouac
From: "Dan O'Neal" <dan@phish.madspace.com>
Subject: Powering a PS-2
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:41:17 -0700 (PDT)
Has anyone ever tried to power the Denecke PS-2 with an external 6v
ecocharge? I know the unit supports from 6.8v to 24v. I measured the
voltage at the ecocharge and is around 6.4v. I was going down to get the
power connectors to try but thought i'd ask first.
Thanks
Dan
From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: Dont order Kodak's from that site!!!
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:55:03 -0700
> From: "bocabob" <bocabob@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: 200 Gold/Silver Kodak CD's for 59$
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 07:55:55 -0400
>
> Hey all....Check it out again!
>
> 200 Gold/Silver Kodak CD's for 59$
> http://www.kodak.com<snip>
for those who havent heard, this site has huge bug that _exposes your
credit card info_ to the next user to hit the site. Its been the discussion
all over etree for the last 3 days
IMHO, 200 kodaks for $59 isnt all that great anyway. Now the 50-spindles of
T-Y's at office max last week for $6.99 was another story :)
JL
From: TRANEHEAD@aol.com
Subject: anyone get costello/mingus l.a.??
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 00:18:22 EDT
anyone get these???
loads to trade including EX masters of the Harry Smith Project w/ El and
others...
thanks,
GG
From: TRANEHEAD@aol.com
Subject: ISO london SOLEX tapers???
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:44:39 EDT
can anyone out there tape this for me???
SOLEX October 02nd: 93 Feet East, London, England.
lots of L.A. area show masters for trade...
thanks,
gg
From: -bob <bp@gti.net>
Subject: Zoltix Nightingale Poll
Reply-To: bp@gti.net
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:38:27 -0400
>>I know this issue has been beat to a pulp... but I was wondering if
anyone
>>has any sound card suggestions or recomendations for DAT > CDR
>>transfers (PC
>>based). I have a Zoltrix which ceased to work as of last week and I
figured
>>I'd look for another viable solution. Any info would be appreciated.
BWT to
>>be paid once I can get something on CDR.
Are you running the Zoltrix SPDIF ?
Coax or optical ?
If coax, was it straight out of a 5volt (Sony) interface?
Is it working and how many hours of use?
There's been a lot of talk about spdif being 0.5 to 5.0 vdc, though the
standards are really
tighter. Zoltrix (or a newsgroup that covers the Nightingale card) says
that it will work
0.5 to 5.0 volts, I wondered if it might have some effect.
BTW, the latest techie word is to avoid Nightingale series for analog
for critical recording
because the op-amps on board are noisier than most. Has anyone worked up
a modification
for this? I'm sure that tuning discrete components could only help any
mass-production card.
Cheers,
-Bob
From: "Bas Ruesink" <basruesink@hotmail.com>
Subject: Heather Nova taping policy?
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:57:49 +0200
Hi,
Does anyone know about her allowing taping or not? Any great tapers from her
around? Planning to tape her show in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. (MD/OKM II
RS)
Bas
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From: Mark McHarg <frankophile@ntlworld.com>
Subject: FT: Scofield 7.28.01 London FM > D
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:30:14 +0100
I know there are a lot of john scofield fans here so thought
I'd make copies for whoever wants them while it's on my HD.
trade or B&P DAT or CDR 78 mins
- mark
From: acffhmorst <morst@itis.com>
Subject: Re: ?? about CD list info
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:56:08 -0500
I like to keep a record of transfer lineage for things that I master on
DAT and convert to SHN. On a SHN data disc there is plenty of space for
a small text file containing the info about recording situation,
mastering, transfer and or conversion and even a track list if known. I
find that this is critical information for determining the best possible
source for a show.
I don't ususally trade audio CD-R because they're not what I like to
copy from. I have resumed trading DAT's because I can get unconverted
material.
by the way, I use a Mac, but I burn data discs in the ISO format with
joliet naming so they're cross-platform compatible.
I have not been very meticulous about keeping records of digital
transfers from one DAT to another, however. I know there are
uncorrectible errors, and they are not really detectible or audible, but
many DAT's aren't labelled very well to begin with, so you take what
info you can!
I'm interested to hear what other folks keep for their data. My
impression is that the master should be labelled completely, and if
someone wants to make a copy they should have all the info available,
even if they don't care, just so someone down the line can tell what is
on the tape.
-tom
>
> anyway, i've been trying to keep my CDR archiving info "clean" by
> requesting
> what i've been calling conversion lineage (ie. how the music on the dat
> got
> to the CDR (including machines and software)). However, most people
> I've
> traded with did not know such information or seem to care when I gave
> it to
> them. My question is, does anyone else keep this info and is it at all
> important? (I tend to say yes but apparently a lot say no)
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From: "Candace Horgan" <candace@spacewrangler.com>
Subject: European tapers needed
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:12:06 -0600
Greetings all. The Cowboy Junkies are going to be in Europe for a month and
I need tapers to cover the shows. If you are interested, I will put you on
the guest list +1 in exchange for you sending me a copy of the show. Below
are the dates they will be playing. Taping is audience only, but FOB is
allowed.
Cheers
Candace Horgan
Cowboy Junkies archivist
COWBOY JUNKIES EUROPE 2001
Oct. 18: The Stables, Milton Keynes, England
Oct. 19: Shepherd's Bush Empire, London, England
Oct. 20: Memorial Hall, Sheffield, England
Oct. 21: The Lowery, Manchester, England
Oct. 23: Olympia, Dublin, Ireland
Oct. 25: Kantine, Koln, Germany
Oct. 26: Kleine Musikhalle, Hamburg, Germany
Oct. 27: BKA Luftschloss, Schlossplatz/Unter den Linden, Berlin, Germany
Oct. 29: Pumpehuset, Copenhagen, Denmark
Oct. 30: The Train, Aarhus, Denmark
Nov. 1: The Garage, Bergen, Norway
Nov. 2: Folken, Stavanger, Norwayne
Nov. 3: Beton, Oslo, Norway
Nov. 5: Sodra Theatern, Stockholm, Sweden
Nov. 7: Sociale Theatre, Trento, Italy
Nov. 8: Nuova Palestra Of San Bernardino Institute, Chiari (Brescia),
Italy
Nov. 9: Naima Club, Forli', Italy
Nov. 11: Aula Magha, Lisbon, Portugal
Nov. 12: Madrid Arena. Madrid, Spain
Nov. 14: Ancience Belgique, Brussels, Belgium
Nov. 15: Paradiso, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Nov. 16: De Velinx, Tongeren, Belgium
Nov. 17: Cafe De La Danse, Paris, France
From: "Matt Vernon" <mvernon54@home.com>
Subject: ISO December 1993 Grateful Dead Audience Masters
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:36:10 -0700
I am looking for the following shows from complete audience masters.
12/09/1993 - LA
12/12/1993 - San Diego
12/13/1993 - San Diego
12/17/1993 - Oakland
12/18/1993 - Oakland
12/19/1993 - Oakland
I presume about a zillion people must have taped these :)
WOB: One copy of Phil and Friends 7/4/01 on cdr to first person that emails
me.
From: "Derrick Belbas" <vc4x@home.com>
Subject: HOLLY COLE w/ VSO - 11 Dec 2001
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:04:38 -0500
Hi.
I have a couple of tickets for this show that we can't use. Committed,
experienced taper can have them in exchange for recording. Pls advise if
interested.
derrick
Winnipeg
http://members.home.net/vc4x/trade.htm
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: Powering a PS-2
Reply-To: <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:11:13 -0500 (CDT)
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Dan O'Neal wrote:
> Has anyone ever tried to power the Denecke PS-2 with an external 6v
> ecocharge? I know the unit supports from 6.8v to 24v. I measured the
> voltage at the ecocharge and is around 6.4v. I was going down to get the
> power connectors to try but thought i'd ask first.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
I've done this and it works fine. The Denecke PS-2 lights the LED at
about 6.2V on mine (YMMV) so the 6V gel cells keep it supplied for a
good long time (they only draw about 40 mA with my mics--again, YMMV).
Beware though. Don't feed anything else from the same cell. I got a
very light hum from my rig (only noticable with total quiet and the
gain cranked to 10) with either my SBM-1 or my PCM-M1 powered from
the same cell. I have two of the 6V 7.5AH gel cells and originally
ran them in parallel, but since discovering this hum (I discovered it
long before I ever attempted a recording with this setup thankfully)
I run the two cells separately with one dedicated to the PS-2.
The hum seems to be coming from the SBM-1. I get it with just the
M1 plugged in, but it is only noticable on an o-scope (for anyone
who cares about the technical details, its about 8mV at 100 Hz with
a roughly triangle waveform--if I'm reading my o-scope correctly).
HTH.
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
wayne@hoxnet.com
http://www.hoxnet.com
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From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: Zoltix Nightingale Poll
Reply-To: <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:33:24 -0500 (CDT)
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, -bob wrote:
> >>I know this issue has been beat to a pulp... but I was wondering if
> anyone
> >>has any sound card suggestions or recomendations for DAT > CDR
> >>transfers (PC
> >>based). I have a Zoltrix which ceased to work as of last week and I
> figured
> >>I'd look for another viable solution. Any info would be appreciated.
> BWT to
> >>be paid once I can get something on CDR.
>
> Are you running the Zoltrix SPDIF ?
> Coax or optical ?
> If coax, was it straight out of a 5volt (Sony) interface?
> Is it working and how many hours of use?
>
> There's been a lot of talk about spdif being 0.5 to 5.0 vdc, though the
> standards are really
> tighter. Zoltrix (or a newsgroup that covers the Nightingale card) says
> that it will work
> 0.5 to 5.0 volts, I wondered if it might have some effect.
Probably not. I've done a lot of transfers to/from the nightingale
(and the midiman 2448) from a plain non-active Sony 7-pin and to/from
my denon DTR-80P and Sharp Pro deck (SX D200) with no bit-rot whenever
I've checked. The CMI 8738 S/PDIF is pretty damn good and pretty
good at cleaning up sloppy signals.
>
> BTW, the latest techie word is to avoid Nightingale series for analog
> for critical recording
> because the op-amps on board are noisier than most. Has anyone worked up
> a modification
> for this? I'm sure that tuning discrete components could only help any
> mass-production card.
This would be nearly impossible. The CMI 8738 is a one-chip solution.
All the sub-process sections are within the chip. Even so, the DA/AD
converters on this chip leave a lot to be desired. No, the best role
of this card is straight digital transfers. If you want a good AD/DA,
get a cheap SB/Live Value. Even buying both, your better off for
less bucks than a god pro card. I wish someone would build a good
all-around card for us dat-heads, but I'm reminded of a sign that
used to hang in our QC lab:
You can have it done cheap.
You can have it done fast.
You can have it done right.
Pick any two.
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
wayne@hoxnet.com
http://www.hoxnet.com
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From: Matthew Blum <miblum@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: Tori Amos from Florida Last Night
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT)
Hey there yall, i am looking for the florida shows
from this tori amos tour. I have tons of dmb, phish,
oysterhead and anything else you might want, just
throw me an e-mail and lets set up a trade!. peace.
matthew
miblum@yahoo.com
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From: "--k j--" <januszak@hotmail.com>
Subject: broken D8
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:35:15 -0400
After taping Merl Saunders last night, some drunk guy fell into my gear and
knocked my D8 off my case.
all is fine except the button to open the D8 came busting off.so now the D8
is stuck on hold and i can't get it open. anyone have suggestions on where
i might be able to get this fixed.
thanks for your help, and down with drunken stumbling guys...
kj
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From: DM13DM@aol.com
Subject: Looking for 2001 Lucinda Williams shows...
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:29:08 EDT
Looking for any Neko Case shows and 2001 Lucinda Williams shows.
Also interested in any Kasey Chambers, Blue Rodeo, 2001 Wilco and 2001 Patty
Griffin shows.
Here's a link to my list:
http://hometown.aol.com/dm13dm/index.html
lmk
Take care,
Bob
dm13dm@aol.com
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.sp.trw.com>
Subject: Re: trackmark transfer from CDRW33 to PCMR500?
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT)
GaoBest@aol.com asked:
>Hey everyone
>I am trying to transfer some CDRs of gigs I have to DAT, using my
>professional CDRW33 coaxial cabled to my PCMR500 (both Sony machines), and
>sometimes the trackmarks from the CDR transfer, othertimes they do not. I
>thought trackmarks instantly transferred during an optical/coaxial cloning
>process. So I am really confused over this. It's frustrating because this
>means I have to manually insert trackmarks which can take a lot of time.
>
>Any information/etc is appreciated, thanks.
Most DAT decks don't correctly transfer start IDs from a CD player digital
output. Something about "Q-Codes." Of my 5 different decks (Panasonic
SV3800, Fostex D5, Sony 75ES, Sony D3, Sony D100), only the D5 does this
correctly. IIRC, it's been awhile since I did it.
-Jeff Lester
From: "Chuck Tombasco" <chazthespazz@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: AT933's w/battery box
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 16:41:47 -0400
-I have a pair of AT933's that are mounted in Croakies, with an attached
batter box that has selectable bass roll off. Also included is an adapter to
go into any preamp that has XLR inputs, and a 20dB pad incase your levels
are too hot for the pre. I am looking to get 200 for this package, but if
you are TRULY interested email me off list and we can talk.
THANKS YALL!!
Chuck Tombasco =)
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From: "Ashevillain" <crosseyedjim@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Do either of the following artists allow audience taping?
Reply-To: "Ashevillain" <cbass@ashevillegroovenospam.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 17:21:09 -0400
I don't see either in the BTAT list so I figured I'd ask here.
Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks
Lee "Scratch" Perry
thanks
cliff
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From: clint morrison <panictaper@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: USed Home Deck
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT)
I am in search of a low-hour used home Dat Deck. If
anyone has one they are thinking of selling please get
in touch. My budget is under $300. THanks,
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