DAT-heads Digest #70
Contents:
re: Track extraction with EAC vs CDRwin vs Soundforge 5.0 ("Slipkid")
Radiators in paris (and Europe) (Bill Shaw)
CDs for sale on eBay (Scott.Goodwin@AstenJohnson.com)
taping question...please help (soon:) (Cjyellow@aol.com)
Re: Bootlegger on eBay (Klay Anderson)
FW: acid vine ("David Maley")
Built to Spill Dallas show ("Marcus Winfree")
RE: Paris Radiators Shows ("ev")
Neumann KM 140 -10db switch (andy murray)
NBCi.com question (Robbie Dunn)
ISO: Used Lunatec V2 (Comnaround@aol.com)
Radiohead Japan Tour ("hiroyuki tanaka")
FS: Apogee AD-500 w/ Cables & Manuel (Michel Pacifici)
Which mics were they? (Andrew Nemeth)
oysterheadjob ("Chris Rees")
OKMII/R>A3>SBM1>M1 recording problem what went wrong? (Eduardo Malvido)
Sound Forge vs. Cool Edit Pro ("Taperguy")
[Fwd: Proposed Legislation Significantly Affecting Computer Profession (Eugene Hu)
From: "Slipkid" <slipkid@voicenet.com>
Subject: re: Track extraction with EAC vs CDRwin vs Soundforge 5.0
Reply-To: "Slipkid" <slipkid@voicenet.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:23:28 -0400
my 2 cents regarding this:
>From: "john" <jlevene@idcomm.com>
>Subject: Track extraction with EAC vs CDRwin vs Soundforge 5.0
>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:50:51 -0600
>Does anyone have comparison information on these programs. Are they all
>fairly similar and well respected? Is any one type of extraction not
>recommended?
penny #1 - EAC is the preferred program of choice for anyone interested in
getting the best possible digital audio extraction (DAE) quality off a
CD/CD-R....it does error checking which no other program bothers
with...plus, as an added selling point, it is FREE (just send the author a
postcard)
check out these links for more information about EAC:
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
http://pages.cthome.net/homepage/eac/
http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eac
EAC does take some time to understand & configure correctly, but the links
above can help greatly with that, and like most things that require effort,
it is worth it
penny #2 - to the best of my knowledge SOUNDFORGE cannot do "DAE", it is
primarily a sound "editor" and although it can be used to record music via
various inputs on your PC, it does not "extract" audio off a disc
best of luck with whatever program you decide to use,
- jon -
slipkid@voicenet.com
From: Bill Shaw <Bill.Shaw@hds.com>
Subject: Radiators in paris (and Europe)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:23:36 -0700
The New Orleans Radiators are doing a 2 week trip/tour to Europe.
Although soundboard patching is generally the rule at Radiators shows, they
will not be taking their full gear, instead renting much of it over there.
The upshot is that there will be NO BOARD PATCHES at the Radiators European
shows. Audience taping is permitted and even encouraged.
Although I am not going, my KM140's are! (lucky mics! ha ha)
10/7 Brugge, Belgium
10/8 Amsterdam
10/9 Paris
10/10 Paris
10/11 London
10/13 London
10/15 Amsterdam
10/17 Darmstadt, Germany
10/18 Amsterdam
See http://www.radiators.org for details.
Bill
From: Scott.Goodwin@AstenJohnson.com
Subject: CDs for sale on eBay
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:18:32 -0400
There are two ways to deal with people selling boots on eBay:
1) Report the guy to eBay. They'll yank the auctions and his account
2) Bid a ridiculous sum on his auction(s), like $109,943.56. That'll slow
down the bidding!
Personally, I like solution #2!
SWG
From: Cjyellow@aol.com
Subject: taping question...please help (soon:)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:37:31 EDT
i have a friend who is a club dj, and wants to make a "live" recording. it's
in a small club, so there will be ALOT of people talking and other background
noise. for this reason, i am planning on doing a matrix with mics and the
board. here is the question: i want mostly board feed, with a tiny bit or
room sound, just to get a feel. i have: 2x cardiods, 1x omni, 1x hyper, and
a small mackie 1402. would it be better to run the pair of cards (either in
the back, pointed at the stax, or from the front, towards the crowd - it's a
small room, and the sound will travel very equally around) into the matrix,
or just hang the omni from the celing, over the dance floor, and pan it in
the middle (so it goes into both channels) again, i am looking for about 10%
room, just for the ambiance.
any help would be appreciated. this is thursday night, so please reply to my
mail account, as the diagest might not arrive in time:)
thanks!
steve
cjyellow@aol.com
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: Re: Bootlegger on eBay
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:27:53 -0600
crappysoundingbinaurals@yahoo.no
Subject: bootlegger on ebay.
Asked:
>
> can somebody help me stop this asshole.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1470944383
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1469608988
Report him here:
http://www.riaa.com/Protect-Report.cfm
Thanks!
--
Our hearts reach out to the victims and families of
the tragic events of September 11th.
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: "David Maley" <dmaley@nc.rr.com>
Subject: FW: acid vine
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:54:07 -0400
So to keep the vine alive, first one to reply gets it. Preferably to
someone who will offer it back to the list. Peace, love and music ........
~Dave
=====Original Message=====
From: Thomas Wulf
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:56 AM
Subject: acid vine
<snip>
-- I'd like the last person on each vine to offer the seed discs as
freebies, or start a perma vine, or something like that. If you really
don't have time, get back to me, and I'll do it. This way we can keep
the music & the weirdness spreading.....
<snip>
3) what is on the discs:
the discs contain the version alan bershaw compiled and circulated in may
and june. here is his description:
Grateful Dead & Merry Pranksters
The Acid Test Reels
1965-1967
A chronological compilation of the Acid Test recordings listed in
The Grateful Dead Tapers Compendium Volume One.
DISC ONE: Fillmore Acid Test/Sound City Acid Test
The Fillmore Acid Test
Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA
January 8, 1966
1. Stage Chaos/More Power Rap
2. King Bee
3. I'm A Hog For You Baby
4. Caution: Do Not Step On Tracks >
5. Death Don't Have No Mercy
6. Star Spangled Banner / closing remarks
The Sound City Acid Test
363 6th Street, San Francisco, CA
January 29, 1966
7. Ken Kesey interviewed by Frank Fey
8. Ken Babbs and harmonica
9. Take Two: Ken Kesey
10. Bull
11. Peggy The Pistol
12. One-way Ticket
13. Bells And Fairies
14. Levitation
15. Trip X
16. The End
7-16 The Acid Test: A Sound City Production
DISC TWO: Pico Acid Test /S.F. State U Acid Test (pt.1)
The Pico Acid Test
Danish Center, Los Angeles, CA
March 12, 1966
1. Viola Lee Blues
2. You See A Broken Heart
3. In The Midnight Hour
The San Francisco State Acid Test
Whatever It Is Festival
San Francisco State University, San Francisco, CA
Stereo Control Room Master (rec. 4:00AM - 6:00AM)
October 2, 1966
4. The Head Has Become Fat Rap
5. A Mexican Story: 25 Bennies
6. A Tarnished Galahad
7. Get It Off The Ground Rap >
8. It's Good To Be God Rap >
9. Nirvana Army Rap >
10. The Butcher Is Back
11. Acid Test Graduation Announcement
12. Send Me To The Moon >Closing Rap
Credits on 10/2/66:
Voices: Ken Kesey and Hugh Romney
Guitar: Ken Kesey
Violin: Dale Kesey
Organ: Jerry Garcia
Engineering: Steve Newman, Ken Kesey, Mountain Girl
DISC THREE: S.F. State U Acid Test (pt. 2)/Graduation Jam
The San Francisco State Acid Test
Whatever It Is Festival
San Francisco State University, San Francisco, CA
October 2, 1966
1. Ken Kesey's dialogue (isolated remix)
Merry Prankster Sound Collage Sequences
October 2, 1966
2. Prankster Music/Sound Collage #1(sequence 1)
3. Kesey Rap > Prankster Music/Sound Collage #2 (sequence 2)
4. Prankster Sound Collage #3 > Prankster Raga(sequence 3)
Prankster Recordings broadcast over the P.A.
End of Whatever It Is Festival
October 2, 1966
5. Closing Jam
6. Prankster Electronics
Acid Test Graduation Jam
Winterland, San Francisco, CA
October 31, 1966
7. Jam Session (musicians unknown)
from The World Of Acid film soundtrack
Disc Four: Related Recordings
Neal Cassidy & The Warlocks 1965
1. Speed Limit
studio recording/Prankster production tape circa late 1965
Straight Theater, Haight Street, San Francisco, CA July 23, 1967
2. Neal Cassidy Raps (backed by The Dead)
recording released as a flexi-disc in the 1st printing of The Dead
Book
Acid Tests Production Reel
3. Jerry Garcia commentary with Acid Test audio
710 Haight Street House, San Francisco, CA summer 1967
4. - 6. Jerry Garcia
one hour interview about music, drugs, politics and social changes
circa 1967
compilation and package by Alan Bershaw
shn discs by TaW
Note 1: I split the 1h Jerry interview on disc 4 into 3 smaller pieces
(a-c).
Note 2: The shn-tracks for audio disc 4 are split between shn-discs 2 and
3!
back cover by ?
i hope all is going well
thomas :):):)
From: "Marcus Winfree" <mwinfree@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Built to Spill Dallas show
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:58:27 -0500
sorry for the waste of bandwidth here - I'm looking for John, who was =
taping one deck ahead of me off the board at the Built to Spill show at =
the Gypsy Tea Room on Sunday. John, if you're out there, I had problems =
with my tape and wanted to see how yours turned out. Please shoot me an =
e-mail at mwinfree@austin.rr.com.
Thanks!
Marcus
From: "ev" <ericv@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Paris Radiators Shows
Reply-To: "ev" <ericv@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:46:52 -0400
There should be some tapers there. A better place to ask might be the
HeatGen list, which you may subscribe to through the band's website:
http://www.radiators.org/listserver.html
They are very taper friendly. So much so that Kenny, their excellent
FOH Engineer, almost always feeds a nice mix into a large patchbay
(1/4",RCA,XLR outs - see http://btat.wagnerone.com/) and provides
a/c power strips. The Europe tour is one of the few times that tapers
have been told to bring mics and be prepared to provide their own
power. I'd expect some special shows. So if you walk away with
nice tapes and convert to .SHN, please email Dave Bukove or myself
with .txt and .md5 files for the newly added and growing section of
RADs shows that's being compiling on www.etree.org.
Other contributions welcomed, as long as you confirm that they're
needed here: http://db.etree.org/shnlist.php?artist=41&year=2001
peace, further...
e
"Mincey, Patrick" <pamincey@davidson.edu> wrote on Wed, 3 Oct 2001
>
> Hey now,
> wondering if anyone is going to be taping in Paris next tuesday and
> Wednesday the Radiators shows at Chesterfield in Paris. Anyone know the
> Rads board policy? Also looking to by some blank 60m tapes if anyone
coming
> has extras...Take it easy
> Patrick
From: andy murray <andyjah420@yahoo.com>
Subject: Neumann KM 140 -10db switch
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:39:35 -0700 (PDT)
Good evening everyone, Glad to see all is well in
DATland. Anyways I just purchased the SKM 140 kit and
was wondering if anyone that uses these could tell me
whether it is worth using the -10db switch on the mic
bodies. I am running these into a Sound Devices MP2
into a DAP1. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Andy Murray
=====
http://www.tapercities.com/Jambands/andyjah
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From: Robbie Dunn <goheels@mindspring.com>
Subject: NBCi.com question
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:15:57 -0700
I know this is off topic, but....... I've been hosting a lot of cd covers
on an NBCi.com free site and just got an e-mail from someone trying to
download the files. Apparently the links are dead for all the covers and I
can't get on to their ftp site.
So my question is for anyone out there that uses/used NBCi.com
Do you know what happened? Is this temporary or gone permanently?
Guess I'll be looking for somewhere else to host the covers.
Robbie
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From: Comnaround@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Used Lunatec V2
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:30:29 EDT
anybody got one for sale? Thanks
Mark Lynn
From: "hiroyuki tanaka" <h-tanaka@yc4.so-net.ne.jp>
Subject: Radiohead Japan Tour
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 02:17:38 +0900
Hello, DAT-heads
I taped all 5 shows of Radiohead Japan tour 2001.
DSM6S>PA-6LC3>TCD-100
Also I made a nice tapes of Roxy Music Japan tour (1 night at Tokyo).
I would like to trade my tape for another shows, even from other
artists(Radiohead, U2, King Crimson,
Manic Street Preachers, The The and Neil Young so on)
Send me your lists for a quick trade. Thanks
From: Michel Pacifici <mickpacifici@mediaone.net>
Subject: FS: Apogee AD-500 w/ Cables & Manuel
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 11:37:25 -0700
This is an Apogee AD-500 (Rev C5) S/N 6091.
This unit includes a cable with a 15 pin connector to both 4 pin
XLR(power cable 5' long) and male RCA (spdif cable 3' long)
Recently tested and working in tip top condition.
Serious inquiries only.
Mick
From: Andrew Nemeth <azn@nemeng.com>
Subject: Which mics were they?
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 05:23:13 +1000
I recently saw video of Tony Blair's speech in Brighton (UK)
a couple of days ago.
Was fascinated by the ultra-compact shotgun mics mounted on
the lecturn. They looked like two black pencils.
Any idea what these mics were?
TIA,
Andrew Nemeth
<http://4020.net> -> photos, 360=B0 panoramic vrs, sounds
<http://nemeng.com> -> vr java applets, leica faq, tech info
From: "Chris Rees" <boilerman@provide.net>
Subject: oysterheadjob
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:49:42 -0400
sheet...sorry bout this rant, but....
looks like i got boofed by oysterhead ticket sevice. requested 'taper only',
confirmed a balcony tapers section from the 800# for 11.4.01 ann arbor 3
weeks ago, got my balcony ticket and a phone call from matt @ their ticket
service today..looks like im about 1 of 10 folks who we're 'taper only' and
got it right up the jacksey. now the problem.....i have to sit by myself and
try to stealth it. how lame!!
any way, would love to hook up with anyone who might be running that night
up front or in the tapers section, which is probobly across the street in
the parking garage if their ticket service has anything to do with it.
heard of similar probs for prudue (sp?) gig as well.
<rant off>
i am looking for any one who might be taping mike watt on his current tour.
tons to swap...
cr
milan mi
bwt: j mascis & the fog DA20 snb from clevo 4.01..my master. 1st DAT reply
only b&p
From: Eduardo Malvido <eduardomalvido@yahoo.com>
Subject: OKMII/R>A3>SBM1>M1 recording problem what went wrong?
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT)
Hello again
Thank you all for your answers
Final question,
So what would be the button settings?
for each device
ed :-)
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From: "Taperguy" <taperguy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Sound Forge vs. Cool Edit Pro
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:53:43 -0700
Hello,
Can anyone shed some light on these two programs? what are the advantages
that one has over the other?
Thanks,
Antonio
From: Eugene Hu <eugene@goto.com>
Subject: [Fwd: Proposed Legislation Significantly Affecting Computer Profession
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:52:02 -0700
A heads up for those of you who write to your congresscritters.
Emphasis on felony mine. Use a SCMS stripper, go to jail.
-Eugene
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> Copyright Act. The ATA redefines virtually all computer crime as
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> retroactively, removing the existing statute of limitations. The SSSCA
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