DAT-heads Digest #79
Contents:
Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads (Mike Perkins)
ISO: Colorblind James Experience also Proclaimers (Robert Moose)
KCRW Tapers (Jacob Alifrangis)
Question for the technically minded ("Alisdair Menzies")
Mark Knopfler German Broadcast Grovel ("Tim Schroeder")
Clumsy Lovers, again! (Random Gnome Generator)
Copy DVD disks on a CDR burner ("Otto, Michael")
PJ Harvey recordings ("Thomas Avallone")
Re: Copy DVD disks on a CDR burner (Sean Kennedy)
FS: Neumann BS 48 i-2 (chris wallace)
FS: Frisell & DeJohnette tix ("Degrado, Rob")
Urgent: Need Stealth Taper for Tori Amos, Boston, 10/15/01 (Keith Shapiro)
John Hammond taping policy? (Colin Liston)
18th anniversary of the dead's first ("Venezia, Frank P")
FW: 5-5-92 ("Christopher R. C. Lull")
Mercury Rev tour (Paulo Vieira)
From: Mike Perkins <mperkins@telus.net>
Subject: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:38:36 -0700
Dear intelligent ones:
I have been using a Sony D8 for the last six months or so to record the
sounds of various pipe and other organs that I have had the pleasure to
install. The motive behind this bizarre behavior is a desire to transfer
these recorded sounds (actually organ playing of a high caliber) to the
medium known as Compact Disk. I must confess that this exercise is not
simply one to give me CDs with which I can play myself to sleep but to
enable me to put them in the hands of church committee members and others
who possibly on hearing the wondrous sounds I have captured will be
motivated to enquire about what service I may render when it comes time for
them to consider a new organ.
I have been pleased with the Sony D8 and a companion Sony DTC750 which is
TOS linked to my computer for the purpose of burning CDs. My practice is to
take the DAT cassettes from the D8 and play them into the computer via the
DTC 750 so as to capture their contents in the form of .WAV files. I chose
this modus operandi to minimize wear and tear on the D8 and because SONY's
TOS link cables for the notorious 7 pin connector are so copulating expensive.
The software I am using is a combination of WaveLab Lite, Steinberg Clean,
and ROXIO. In general the results have been excellent, that is, until
recently, when the DTC exhibited low and highly distorted output at all its
"shipping docks" i.e. TOS, S/PDIF, and audio. I deduced that the problem
was in the front end, and the correctness of this deduction was confirmed
by the SONY Corporate service center, They told me that the head assembly
was worn out and should be replaced at a cost of $400.
I was considerably dismayed by this and declined to have the repair done. I
took the unit home and ran a Sony head cleaning tape through the machine
for about thirty seconds. Hey Presto! the machine came back into fine form.
Unfortunately the improved performance didn't last - after about an hour we
were back to low output and distortion. I gave it another pass with the
head cleaner, and again, all was well for half an hour or so. When the
distorted output occurs it starts out almost inaudibly and gradually
increases in intensity.
My question to you knowledgeable ones is: Do I actually have a worn out
head assembly, or does it simply need cleaning with some appropriate
chemical? In passing, I should note that the SONY service center never
even opened the case to arrive at their diagnosis, I know that this is so
because I had made witness marks on the screws that hold the case in place
and when the unit was returned to me I could see that those screws had
never been removed.
A second question I would like to pose is this, my DAT tape output is
"pristine" and so is the quality of the output from my CDs when played
through either my DVD drive or my TDK 24/10/40 CDR. However when I play the
tapes through my portable SANYO CD player I hear intermittent fluttering
"hits". This behavior is usually not repeatable when I reset playback to
the beginning of a track. I have been told that CDs that are burned on a
CDR drive do not display the exact characteristics of a commercially
produced CD, my informant believes that the reflectivity of the typical CDR
is quite different to that of "of the shelf" music CDs. Can anyone verify
this? I am using 16x rated SONY high capacity CDRs which I burn at 12x in
the TDK burner.
I await your words of wisdom regarding any of the above with bated breath
Sincerely,
Mike
From: Robert Moose <rmoose@mooses.org>
Subject: ISO: Colorblind James Experience also Proclaimers
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:46:58 -0400
After finding seemingly the only person in net-land with a
Colorblind James Experience show, I now have one (2nd
gen analog from FM, 1990, Cornell Univ.) and am looking to
add others.
I also have a few Proclaimers recordings, one from the
current tour and a couple from previous years and would like
to add there also.
Bob
Crappy, outdated, poorly formatted list can be found at
http://www.mooses.org/trade_list.txt
From: Jacob Alifrangis <jacob@braindonors.net>
Subject: KCRW Tapers
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 01:27:36 -0700
Did anyone record Susanne Vega's Performance on KCRW's Morning becomes
eclectic.
I only get the station kinda fuzzy out here and only in my car.
Will trade, or pay for the trouble. Thanks.
From: "Alisdair Menzies" <alimenzies@hotmail.com>
Subject: Question for the technically minded
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:36:16 +0200
Greetings, everyone,
Here’s a question for the technically minded among you. I recently acquired
a pair of DPA 4061’s without the battery box. Needing a battery box and
wanting a bass roll off, I decided to build one myself, instead of buying
DPA’s MPS 6030 (which doesn’t have any bass roll off anyway).
I got the layout of the guts of the MPS6030 from Markus (thanks Markus!),
which is the following (I’ve only shown one channel, and haven’t shown the
fact that the negative of the battery is connected to the ground):
Capacitor 10 uF
Mic--------o-----------¦---------o-------DAT
¦ ¦
¦ ¦
> >
resistor < < resistor
10 Kohm > > 100 Kohm
¦ ¦
¦ ¦
o---------------------o
¦
¦
+ 9 V Battery
First remark, this differs from the traditional scheme for a battery box
that I’ve seen for capsules such as the panasonics, which don’t have the
second (100 Kohm) resistor:
Capacitor 10 uF
Mic--------o-----------¦----------DAT
¦
¦
>
resistor <
10 Kohm >
¦
¦
¦
+ 9 V Battery
First question: what’s the use of the second resistor – does it in any way
alter what you’d get if you used the second (one resistor) setup?
Second question, calculating the bass roll off. I'd like to change the
capacitor value to obtain a bass roll off. With the second (one resistor)
setup, I’ve read that the bass roll off can be calculated using the
following formula:
F =1/(2 x Pi x C x impedance)
From this you can derive what capacitor you’d use to get a given bass roll
off frequency. I’d be using the line input of my D8, which has (I am told)
an impedance of 47000. Question: does the two resistor setup alter in any
way this means of calculating the bass roll off? If so, how would I
calculate it?
The reason I’m asking all this is that I’m far from being a techno-wizard,
so I’d appreciate any help, and relatively simple to understand answers ;o)
Many thanks,
Alisdair
Alisdair Menzies,
8, Rue du Quartier Neuf
1205 Geneva
Switzerland
(22) 320 94 14
alimenzies@hotmail.com
http://membres.tripod.fr/Alisdair_Menzies/trade.html
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From: "Tim Schroeder" <tschroeder@sport.rr.com>
Subject: Mark Knopfler German Broadcast Grovel
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:35:35 -0500
If anyone taped the recent broadcast from Germany, I need a copy on either
cd or DAT. It sounded like a great show!
Thanks
Tim Schroeder
From: Random Gnome Generator <clhoo@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Clumsy Lovers, again!
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:22:21 -0700 (PDT)
New southwest dates for The Clumsy Lovers:
Mon, Oct 15 - Rula Bula Irish Pub, Tempe AZ
401 Mill Ave South - 480 929 9500
Wed, Oct 17 - Wild Hare's, El Paso TX
4025 B N Mesa - 915 532 3589 10pm
Thu, Oct 18 - Casbeer's, San Antonio TX
1719 Blanco Road - 210 732 3511 8:30pm
Fri, Oct 19 - Continental Club, Austin TX
1315 S. Congress - 512 441 2444
9:30pm (one set only, don't be late!)
Sat, Oct 20 - Muddy Water, Dallas TX
1518 Greenville Ave - 214 823 1518
Sun, Oct 21 - Barley House, Dallas TX
2916 N Henderson - 214 824 0306
If these guys were any more taper friendly they'd tape the show
themselves and hand you the DAT!
Cindy
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From: "Otto, Michael" <Michael_Otto@tvratings.com>
Subject: Copy DVD disks on a CDR burner
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:42:17 -0400
Hi
I've been getting email ads for software that will allow one to copy a DVD
disk on a CDR burner, thus making it possible to duplicate movies on DVD.
Does anyone know about this? Is it technically possible?
Does the software actually do it?
thanks
ezrider
From: "Thomas Avallone" <tav2367@msn.com>
Subject: PJ Harvey recordings
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:04:32 +0000
Does anyone have recordings of the following PJ Harvey concerts :
* 9/5/01 NY @ Hammerstein Ballroom
* 9/10/01 Washington DC @ 9:30 Club
* 9/15/01 Denver @ Gothic Theater
* 9/18/01 San Fransisco @ The Warfield
Thanks to all !
Tom
"I've heard there's joy untold
Lays open like a road
In front of me"
~ PJ Harvey
http://www.tav2367.20m.com/
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From: Sean Kennedy <liam@xo.com>
Subject: Re: Copy DVD disks on a CDR burner
Reply-To: Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.tech.xo.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:39:01 -0400
--On Friday, October 12, 2001 10:42 AM -0400 "Otto, Michael"
<Michael_Otto@tvratings.com> wrote:
> I've been getting email ads for software that will allow one
> to copy a DVD disk on a CDR burner, thus making it possible
> to duplicate movies on DVD.
>
> Does anyone know about this? Is it technically possible?
>
> Does the software actually do it?
If you get something as SPAM, its generally widely available
or a scam.
There are formats that can be written to CDR that
*some* DVD players are compatible with. Copying such
media is fairly trivial.
http://www.vcdhelper.com/
These are different than DVDR* and DVD itself (different
rate MPEG-2), and among other things CDR itself is more
limited in capacity. I do not know of anyone trading live
music on DVD today, which would be relevant to DAT-heads.
And copying of commerically released material is something
we do not encourage. If you did get a DVDR* (multiple
incompatible formats) or something in a trade, it should
be possible to convert it to another format using a compatible
DVD computer drive, but it will not be identical.
This latter idea might be a interesting discussion
for DAT-heads. Obviously there is a strong sentiment
here about lossy compression of audio, what about
converting video from DV to (S)VCD-rate MPEG-2? Are
people actively trading SVCD/...
Sean
From: chris wallace <chris_wally43@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Neumann BS 48 i-2
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
out the door for $175. I'll pay shipping. description
below
Battery Supply BS 48 i-2
The battery unit supplies one or two microphones with
48 V phantom powering (P48). The maximum current drain
is 5 mA for each microphone.
The audio outputs are dc-free. Therefore, no
transformer is needed to connect to unbalanced inputs.
The unit has two 5-pin XLR connectors for the
microphone cables. The AC 20 and AC 21 adapter cables
split the signals to 3-pin XLR connectors.
For special applications different adapter cables (AC
22...AC 29) are available. The length of operation
from a single battery depends on the type of battery
and the current drain of the microphone. For example,
a microphone requiring 2 mA can be operated at least
20 hours with an alkaline battery.
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From: "Degrado, Rob" <Rob.Degrado@voicestream.com>
Subject: FS: Frisell & DeJohnette tix
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:41:26 -0700
For 10/31/01 in Seattle at "On The Boards" (nice venue).
2 tix at face value: $18.00, I'll eat the $10.00 in bullshit Ticketbastard
charges.
Preference to anyone who can tape it. Don't know about DeJohnnette but
Frisell
is cool with tapers, just no big rigs. Thanks for the space.
BTW:
moe. 10/4/01
King Cat Theater - Seattle, WA
MBHO603/KA200>MP-2>DA-P1(44.1kHz)
Audiophile 2496>Soundforge 5.0>CDWave>SHN(2 discs) or EAC(4 discs) - please
specify!
From: Keith Shapiro <keither@torilive.org>
Subject: Urgent: Need Stealth Taper for Tori Amos, Boston, 10/15/01
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:44:22 -0400 (EDT)
My taper for the Boston Tori Amos show on 10/15 had to cancel. I am in
urgent need of a DAT taper to cover this show!
10/15/01 Wang Center, Boston, MA
This is Tori's first solo tour since 1994. I'm attempting to make certain
that every show is taped. The setlists up till now have been amazing. I
am willing to cover the cost of a ticket for someone who can tape this
show for me.
Please e-mail me ASAP if you can help!
Thanks,
Keith
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From: Colin Liston <cliston@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: John Hammond taping policy?
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:31:56 -0400 (EDT)
Does anyone know if John Hammond allows taping of any kind?
thanks
colin
From: "Venezia, Frank P" <fvenezia@lehman.com>
Subject: 18th anniversary of the dead's first
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 16:43:01 -0400
hey now!
today marks the 18th anniversary of the Dead's first "Revolution" at madison
square garden, october 12th, 1983...
and BTW, here's what i've got on tap for the next few "frankspicks.org"
trees:
re-release of frank's picks one (first time on CD's!)
dead, 6-18-83, saratoga performing arts center (first PCM
recording for the second set)
dead, 6-20-83 (next three shows from excellent D5>master
cassette>CD transfers!)
dead, 6-21-83
dead, 6-22-83
Garcia Band: 80's audience shows (various excellent audience
sources!)
jgb, 12-8-83
jgb, 8-11-84
jgb, 9-9-89
Dead, Nassau Coliseum, March '85 (excellent audience sources for all
three + sbd's of the first two nights)
dead, 3-27-85
dead, 3-28-85
dead, 3-29-85
this is NOT a sign-up. it's merely a teaser...
music is healing...let's KEEP the "healing vibe" flowing!
SO, i would like to know if people would sign-up for all three trees (or
more!) at once, and run them over the course of the next six months or so?
that way we wouldn't have to keep re-doing tree structures, which is quite
tedious, time-consuming and boring...
what do you think? please let me know by sending an email to me with the
subject of "frankspicks semi-permatree".
this link might get you started:
mailto:fvenezia@lehman.com?subject=frankspicks%20semi-permatree.
if you care, let me know if you think it's a good idea or not.
thanks and have a nice weekend, everyone.
frank
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From: "Christopher R. C. Lull" <crcl@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: FW: 5-5-92
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:06:11 -0700
Hello All,
I've been looking for an excellent copy of 5-5-92 Bobby D. at the Warfield,
Jerry sat in for a good part of the night. I've got thousands of hours of
live digital recordings and will make it worth your while. If there's a copy
circulating, please point me in the right direction.
Thanks very much,
Chris Lull
WOB: KVHW 9.18.98 Maritime Hall. Onstage NAK 700's.
From: Paulo Vieira <mezzanine@softhome.net>
Subject: Mercury Rev tour
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:39:48 +0100
Mercury Rev is currently touring Europe to support their latest album,
"All Is Dream". The tour dates can be found at the official site:
http://www.mercuryrev.net/content/Tour.html . The US tour will start on
late November, some shows are already scheduled.
Mercury Rev allow taping (check the notice at the bottom of the url), so
it's a nice chance to attend an awesome show and record great music. I have
the 2001.08.28 Black Session show (FM) and some older preFMs is anyone is
interested.
-Paulo
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