DAT-heads Digest #81
Contents:
Re: Clumsy Lovers (Random Gnome Generator)
blank DAT's for trade (Jason Heckathorn)
Re: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads (Wayne Brissette)
S/VCD's in trading... (Richard Hammond)
Jane's Addiction MSG, NYC 10/15 (Robert O'Haire)
Wanted: Garbage 2001 ("Jayson")
FS: Sony M1 + Core Sound Cardioid mics ("Douglas Roark")
re: CM300 w/ preamp (Michael Miller)
ISO Harvest Fest Fairburn, GA '01 (barren)
Re: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads (Mike Perkins)
Low Cost CD Duplicators? ("Jackson Gibbs")
FS: Sony PCM Processors & tapes ("Jack Weston")
FS: Apogee AD-500e w/accessories (Schoeps Taper)
Bjork 10/12 Boston (Ryan Blum)
ISO: Andy Summers recordings ("Rogier v.d. Gugten")
URGENT: Need Stealth Taper for Tori Amos, Boston, 10/15/01 (Keith Shapiro)
Toad The Wet Sprocket 5/27/97 Cleveland/Odeon FM (Lrbcoll@aol.com)
From: Random Gnome Generator <clhoo@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Clumsy Lovers
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:46:32 -0700 (PDT)
Duh - I forgot to say what type of music these guys play. They're
high energy cajun folk rock. If you like Leftover Salmon, you'll
like them. There's a banjo and a fiddle and drums and guitar and
bass... I may be leaving something out. The fiddle player is
awesome!
Their website has some audio clips, etc. on it:
http://www.clumsylovers.com
Hope this helps! Hope to see some of you guys at the AZ show.
Cindy
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http://www.geocities.com/Baja/1700 - Homepage
http://www.angelfire.com/az/xtapes - Setlists
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From: Jason Heckathorn <ja2488@yahoo.com>
Subject: blank DAT's for trade
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:49:46 -0700 (PDT)
What I have is (1) Maxell HS-90, (1) Sony DGD15
Cleaner cartridge and (7) Maxell HS-60 tapes, all are
shrink wrapped. Also have (5) Maxell unlabeled 60M
DAT's or 13 DAT tapes. What I Don't have is a DAT
machine. Slight problem there. Any tapers interested
in trading a few shows on disc for the tapes please
drop me a line and send your list. Seems like a waste
not to have someone use them. Thanks - Jason
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From: Wayne Brissette <wbrisett@appleisp.net>
Subject: Re: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:51:07 -0500
>From: "mark wilkins" <wilkinsmd@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads
>Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:11:02 -0400
>Otherwise you can call up a "known good" technician like Paul Plotnik of Pro
>Digital outside Philadelphia (610-353-2400) and see how much he'll charge to
>do it. I and many many other DAT-Heads can vouch for his skills and
>honesty.
There was an article not too long ago in one of the AV magazines
(possibly MIX) and they mentioned how Paul was one of the few remaining
folks who could really handle the board level repairs on equipment. FWIW,
I've sent him my gear and gotten great service.
Wayne
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From: Richard Hammond <rlhammon@home.com>
Subject: S/VCD's in trading...
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:41:54 -0500
> From: Sean Kennedy <liam@xo.com>:
>
>
>>This latter idea might be a interesting discussion
>>for DAT-heads. Obviously there is a strong sentiment
>>here about lossy compression of audio, what about
>>converting video from DV to (S)VCD-rate MPEG-2? Are
>>people actively trading SVCD/...
I am part of a Pearl Jam Fan Based group. We have been taking videos
and converting them to VCD's and in some cases SVCD's for a while now.
They have become VERY popular among Pearl Jam traders.
The quality varies due to the stealthing of the video cameras... but I
will say if you take master/1st gen. the results are as good as the
video tapes most people have.
The encoding quality also varies GREATLY depending on the capture
hardware, encoding and other variables. Attention to detail is a must
when creating VCD's... but they can be made well.
The other good thing is that it becomes very easy to dub in new audio
once everything is digitized... meaning that great videos with the best
audio sources are produced and then traded... not to mention no more
generational losses from making copies, and copies no longer take 2
hours to make on you VCR, but only minutes now on your CD-R.
Not being DAT related, if there are other questions please e-mail me and
not the list... no need to cluter this place up more than I did.
Rich
From: Robert O'Haire <plummer@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Jane's Addiction MSG, NYC 10/15
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 21:29:30 -0400
I have one extra ticket for the show on Monday...section 90 row
E...decent for taping...hoping it goes to another taper or someone
who wants to help me bring in parts of my MK4/MP2 rig.
Thanks folks, Robert
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From: "Jayson" <hammering@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Wanted: Garbage 2001
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 00:23:50 -0500
Looking for Garbage 2001 performances.. I taped the indy show..looking for
others
---
Jayson
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"trying to fix or change something, only guarantees and perpetuates its
existence."
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Trader of CDRs
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DOWNLOAD: ftp://radiohead:media@65dot31dot171dot47colon21
UPLOAD: ftp://radioheadup:upload@65dot31dot171dot47colon21
ftp://garbage:media@65dot31dot171dot47colon21
From: "Douglas Roark" <droark@naxs.com>
Subject: FS: Sony M1 + Core Sound Cardioid mics
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:15:55 -0400
Hello. I'm offering these two up for sale. They're each about 1 1/2
years old but have barely been used. The M1 has about ten hours of
usage (six recording, four playing), and the mics have about six hours.
I'd prefer to sell these together for $700 OBO, shipping included.
Separately, I'll sell the M1 for $525 and the mics for $175 (both OBO),
shipping not included.
Thank you.
D.R.
From: Michael Miller <mcmiller@Radix.Net>
Subject: re: CM300 w/ preamp
Reply-To: Michael Miller <mcmiller@Radix.Net>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:00:20 -0400 (EDT)
I used CM300s for a while and when I fed them through a preamp, I got much
better tapes. The improvement was due to running the signal from the
pre-amp into the line level port instead of the mic input on the D7. You
aren't going to make the CM300s sound any better. The improvement you see
will depend on the quality of the pre-amp in your deck vs. the quality of
the outboard preamp you insert into the chain. Of course, one benefit of
getting a really good preamp that can supply phantom power now is that
when you upgrade from the CM300s you will already have a power source for
the new mics.
michael
From: barren <barren4@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO Harvest Fest Fairburn, GA '01
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:01:11 -0400
Hey All,
Well, the rain wasn't pouring down and the wind wasn't whipping (on Saturday anyway). I hope some good tapes are out there to be traded for. Please drop me a line at barren4@earthlink.net. Thanks.
BWT: B&P String Cheese Incident 4-19-01 Uptown Theatre Kansas City MO, Rode NT-2>V2>AD2K>PCM-M1
From: Mike Perkins <mperkins@telus.net>
Subject: Re: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:45:21 -0700
Dear Mark:
Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply to my enquiry
You wrote:
>Regarding dirty heads, since you have already used a cleaning cassette,
>next thing to try is wet clean the heads. You can do this yourself or pay
>a professional to do it. If you're feeling industrious, Art Munson of
>Cassette House has some good info (from DAT-Heads) archived here:
>http://www.cassettehouse.com/techinfo/datclean.html
I'll look this up.
>Otherwise you can call up a "known good" technician like Paul Plotnik of
>Pro Digital outside Philadelphia (610-353-2400) and see how much he'll
>charge to do it. I and many many other DAT-Heads can vouch for his skills
>and honesty.
Yes others endorse your recommendation. I am situated on the West Coast of
Canada and so I will be endeavoring to find a similar person nearer to
hand, possibly in the Seattle area.
> Even if you choose to do it yourself it would be worth the toll call
> from wherever you are to chat with him for a few minutes, he is quite
> knowledgeable. You didn't include the age or hours of use the deck has,
> but yes the heads do eventually wear out and when that happens the repair
> bill would be in the ballpark of the estimate you received from Sony.
I bought this machine used and have no idea how many hours it has under its
belt. It was reasonably priced and was perfectly suitable for the purpose
for which I bought it. If I can't get it fixed for minimal dollars I may
replace it with a Fostex D5, which appears to be a better built deck. I
favor the Fostex because it has TOS link capability built in. What if
anything would compel a user to prefer a Tascam units over the Fostex D5?
> Another thing to consider may be the fact that some low quality DAT
> tapes have been known to shed and gum up heads. It seems like most
> manufacturers have made a bad batch so to speak at some time or
> another. But with such a tape you would get similar behavior with both
> decks. At the risk of potentially clogging the heads in your other deck
> you could see if the tape in question plays OK in that deck.
Yes it does, as do several others. I had suspected that shedding of tape
coating may be the problem and so I removed the drive assembly from the
unit for closer inspection. There was no evidence of tape debris to be seen
but I noted that there were some fine hairs floating around in the drive,
this didn't surprise me because the two German Shepherd dogs that call this
home shed their coats an awful lot. I decided to remove the hair, and to
this end I ran the machine while listening to its output, which was
distorted and intermittent, and then blew gently into the general area
where the tape passes over the rotating head assembly. The output then
disappeared completely. This not only surprised me but considerably
dismayed me!
I have serviced VCRs over the years and have never had any serious problems
in so doing. This unit is very similar to, but smaller than the typical VCR
head assembly and so I was not prepared for catastrophic failure such as
has occurred. When I have a moment or two I will have to investigate this
further.
>Regarding CD-R's yes they are not as reflective as stamped CD's. But the
>technology has come a long way in a short period of time and the high
>quality Sony discs you're using probably aren't the problem. Some CD
>players, particularly older ones (pre- CD-R vintage), and particularly
>some low cost and/or older portable players, aren't as good at playing
>CD-R's as newer decks. If the discs play fine in other players it may be
>time for a new portable deck.
I find your observation very interesting, I have had no experience of
portable CD players until the Sanyo unit I recently purchased at Costco for
a very reasonable price - far below Sony, Panasonic, Koss or others that
were on display. The Sanyo even has built-in AM/FM. Its price was less than
half that of the lowest priced Sony. It seems that this goes to support the
old saying "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
A friend who is the world's ultimate high end HI-FI freak has the same
point of view as your good self. He identified that my Sanyo as being of an
older generation of machines and that the behavior of which I am
complaining is quite common with such units. He tells me that the latest
machines, especially those with MP3 capability are pretty immune to the
observed defect.
>Another consideration may also be the way in which the discs were burned.
>Everything else being equal, discs burned in track-at-once (TAO) mode can
>sometimes give trouble on playback where discs burned disc-at-once (DAO)
>may not. Burning DAO vs. TAO is a function of the software you're using
>and the way you're using it. You can consult your documentation for more
>info if needed.
I invariably use DAO.
>Good luck
It looks like I am going to need it!
Warmest regards,
Mike
From: "Jackson Gibbs" <gibbs@crater.net>
Subject: Low Cost CD Duplicators?
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 12:57:11 -0700
I was just browsing ebay and stumbled on a number of auctions selling the
"Butterfly Media 12x CD Duplicator"
(http://www.butterflymedia.com/products-cdcopier.asp) for what seem like
fairly reasonable prices ($150-$250).
This looks kinda nice to me, quick 12x duplicator for cheap. Unfortunately
their site doesn't exactly provide much in the way of details. Another site
(http://www.usmtelecom.com/mmbgcdc1s12x.html) is selling it new for $269 and
lists a little more in detail.
These feature lines kinda make me wonder though:
- Auto Format Detection for all kinds of CD sources.
- Support both Disk-at-once and Track-at-once modes.
- Copy Speed: Max 12x
- Writing mode: Disk-at-once and track-at-once auto selected
In particular, the auto-selected dao/tao.
So, I'm wondering if anyone knows if this model would suffice for
duplicating audio cds without inserting the dreaded tao 2-second gap?
And while I'm on the subject, what is the current cheapest stand-alone means
of duplicating an audio cd?
Thanks,
Jackson
WOB: 3-disc b+p from http://db.etree.org/ae35unit to first interested
respondant
From: "Jack Weston" <jweston2@qwest.net>
Subject: FS: Sony PCM Processors & tapes
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:29:55 -0400 (EDT)
FOR SALE: SONY DIGITAL PCM PROCESSORS AND 150 PCM BETA CONCERT /STUDIO
TAPES FOR COST OF BLANKS WHEN NEW. DETAILS AT:
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jweston2/index.htm
From: Schoeps Taper <schoeps@mindspring.com>
Subject: FS: Apogee AD-500e w/accessories
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:02:45 -0400
For Sale:
Apogee AD-500e and accessories
Unit is the latest revision of this outstanding a/d converter, includes
15-pin power cable with *dual* coax digital outputs, owners manual, Apogee
AC Power Supply, and Eco-charge gamma pro battery system (AC charger and two
batteries, however one is not charging, the other is losing charging
ability, but both can be recycled through eco-charge.) Other than the
batteries not holding 100% charge, everything else is in excellent
condition. Never any problems with the Apogee, which I've run with both
D8's and M1's simultaneously.
$595 firm includes UPS ground shipping in Continental US only.
schoeps@mindspring.com
From: Ryan Blum <rblum@fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: Bjork 10/12 Boston
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:06:52 -0400
Hello,
I have some things that I would like to offer anyone who has a recording of
the Bjork Oct. 12 show at the Wang in Boston. Please email me!
Cheers,
Ryan
rblum@fas.harvard.edu
From: "Rogier v.d. Gugten" <gugten@cybercomm.nl>
Subject: ISO: Andy Summers recordings
Reply-To: "Rogier v.d. Gugten" <gugten@cybercomm.nl>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:58:28 +0200
Hi there,
This week Andy Summers (together with Darryl Jones and Dennis Chambers) will perform four
nights in New York. After that he will tour Europe. I'll record the two shows in Holland
(Zoetermeer and Amsterdam). Is anyone else planning to record any of the following shows?:
Oct. 17 , 2001 New York City, NY - Birdland (2 sets: 9.00 + 11.00 pm) ; USA
Oct. 18 , 2001 New York City, NY - Birdland (2 sets: 9.00 + 11.00 pm) ; USA
Oct. 19 , 2001 New York City, NY - Birdland (2 sets: 9.00 + 11.00 pm) ; USA
Oct. 20 , 2001 New York City, NY - Birdland (2 sets: 9.00 + 11.00 pm) ; USA
Oct. 24 , 2001 Rive de Gier - Rive De Gier Festival ; FRANCE
Oct. 25 , 2001 Antwerpen - So What Jazz Club ; BELGIUM
Oct. 26 , 2001 Frankfurt - Rundfunk Jazz Festival ; GERMANY
Oct. 27 , 2001 Roma - Teatro Massimo (Roma Jazz Fest) ; ITALY
Oct. 28 , 2001 Zoetermeer - Boerderij ; HOLLAND
Oct. 29 , 2001 Amsterdam - Melkweg ; HOLLAND
Oct. 30 , 2001 Berlin - Quasimodo ; GERMANY
Oct. 31 , 2001 Budapest - Petofi Hall ; HUNGARY
Nov. 2 , 2001 Aachen - Jakobshof Aachen ; GERMANY
Nov. 3 , 2001 Lünen - Hansesaal (Lünen Jazz Festival) ; GERMANY
Nov. 4 , 2001 München - Bayerischer Hof ; GERMANY
Nov. 5 , 2001 Prague - Lucerna Music Club ; CZECH REPUBLIC
Nov. 7 , 2001 Linz - Kongressaal ; AUSTRIA
Nov. 8 , 2001 Wien - Reigen Club ; AUSTRIA
Nov. 9 , 2001 Ingolstadt - Queen Hotel (Ingolstadt Jazz Fest) ; GERMANY
Nov. 10 , 2001 Spielberg - Roter Saal ; AUSTRIA
Nov. 11 , 2001 London - Royal Festival Hall ; UK
Take care,
Rogier.
Rogier's Police Page: http://www.police.cybercomm.nl/
From: Keith Shapiro <keither@torilive.org>
Subject: URGENT: Need Stealth Taper for Tori Amos, Boston, 10/15/01
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:52:39 -0400 (EDT)
My taper for the Boston Tori Amos show on 10/15 had to cancel. I am in
urgent need of a DAT taper to cover this show!
10/15/01 Wang Center, Boston, MA
This is Tori's first solo tour since 1994. I'm attempting to make certain
that every show is taped. The setlists up till now have been amazing. I
am willing to cover the cost of a ticket for someone who can tape this
show for me.
Please e-mail me ASAP if you can help!
Thanks,
Keith
--
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From: Lrbcoll@aol.com
Subject: Toad The Wet Sprocket 5/27/97 Cleveland/Odeon FM
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 19:44:21 EDT
Hi folk,
Does anyone have a *nice* recording of this FM broadcast? Can trade on DAT or
CDR.
~ Lee
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