DAT-heads Digest #82, Volume #6 Mon, 15 Oct 01 16:50:00 EDT Contents: SONY PCM-601ESD, PCM F1, PCM-1610 ("Jack Weston") ISO: NYU Student/ Status of Irving Plaza (MAGICRIG@aol.com) : New Radio Broadcasts for trade (lots of different stuff) (willard robinson) extra Ratdog 11/19/00 on DAT for B+P ("Dan Greenberg") FS: Lunatec V2 with 6V ecocharge ("Hobbs, Jim A") tape Thalia Zedek on Mike Watt tour! (Rob Gronotte) Tim Reynolds in Minneapolis Oct 26 ("Vince Horst") Dual *Pro* CD Recorders $494 - singles $294 ("Gary Davis") Tin Hat Trio--taper-friendly tour dates (PeterE) FT: SCI 11/2/01 Taper Ticket ("D A T") Wilco 10/02/01 Boston For Trade ("Bill Hoy") Dirty Heads (Klay Anderson) Bowery Ballroom? ("Bill Hoy") Looking for recent Depeche Mode recordings (Nico van der Kamp) Newbie ("Warren") NRPS / Grateful Dead - April 29, 1971 (gthrush@du.edu) FT: 9/14/01 Columbus, OH ("Vikas Bhatia") Bob Dylan Stopped at Checkpoint ("Stanley W. Smith") ISO: OysterheadTix For LA ("Charlie Miller") Looking For Heather Nova 2001 (Andrew Goldstein) ISO Allison Krauss/Union Station St. Louis show ("Stoker, Aaron M.") Soundcard, USB, U2A, check (long) (Andreas) 90m DATs... source wanted (Graham Newton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jack Weston" Subject: SONY PCM-601ESD, PCM F1, PCM-1610 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 19:33:38 -0500 FOR SALE: SONY DIGITAL PCM PROCESSORS AND 150 PCM BETA CONCERT /STUDIO TAPES FOR COST OF BLANKS WHEN NEW. ALL PCM BETA TAPES ARE DIRECT FROM MASTER SOURCES ( ANALOG AND DIGITAL). DETAILS AT: http://www.users.qwest.net/~jweston2/index.htm ------------------------------ From: MAGICRIG@aol.com Subject: ISO: NYU Student/ Status of Irving Plaza Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:34:22 EDT I'm looking for someone who goes to NYU to buy me a ticket for the Rainer Maria/GBV show @ Irving Plaza thursday. They're $5. I'll give you $10 and a copy of both bands sets. Also, I haven't been to Irving after the attacks. Anyone know if they have any metal detectors up or if its lax as usual? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: willard robinson Subject: : New Radio Broadcasts for trade (lots of different stuff) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:00:48 -0400 From the Mix 98.5 mixfest two weeks ago (in studio sets 20-40min) Boston, MA Nelly Furtado (cool version of 'get your freak on') Better than Ezra Five for Fighting Jewel Plus shorter spots by ColdPlay Ever Clear Alanis Morrissette Uncle Kracker From the WBCN River rave Tweeter Center, Mansfield, MA (sets 40-60min) Marylin Manson The Cult Aerosmith Black Crowes EverLast Sevendust Live Lifehouse Also misc stuff: Radiohead 7/7/01 FM 2cds (and ALDs) Weezer b-sides/rarities 3cds Dave Matthews - Lillywhite sessions 1cd Living Colour webcast 2cds tc Will ------------------------------ From: "Dan Greenberg" Subject: extra Ratdog 11/19/00 on DAT for B+P Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:03:47 -0400 This is for the Ratdog show at the Palace Theater in Albany, NY on 11/19/00. It was recorded w/ DPA 4023 mics, and is on one Sony 90m DAT. In return, I'd like a sealed Sony or Maxell 90m DAT plus postage. First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets it (unless you're willing to do B+P's for others, which I would give preference to...in which case tell me how many you're willing to make). -Dan- ------------------------------ From: "Hobbs, Jim A" Subject: FS: Lunatec V2 with 6V ecocharge Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:06:58 -0400 I am selling my Lunatec V2 with a 6V Ecocharge battery and power cable to connect the V2 to the Ecocharge. Please e-mail me off list if you are interested. Thanks, Dave david_bigham@hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Rob Gronotte Subject: tape Thalia Zedek on Mike Watt tour! Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Hey there everyone, I remember seeing a lot of posts here in the pasts about taping previous tours of Mike Watt. I noticed he is touring again, and many of the shows, at least the ones this week, are featuring Thalia Zedek, formerly of the band Come, as a support act. I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone taping Watt could get her set as well. I know Watt generally allows all kinds of taping; not absolutely sure about Thalia, but I doubt she would mind either. Please let me know if you manage to tape any of her sets, I have lots of stuff to trade. Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ From: "Vince Horst" Subject: Tim Reynolds in Minneapolis Oct 26 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:32:13 -0500 I'm looking to find someone that might be going to TR's concert on Oct 26. I'm not sure if he allows taping. (Where is that list of who allows taping and who doesn't, I couldn't find it!). I'm planning to go myself but don't have gear available. Concert info: http://twincities.citysearch.com/profile/11291888/ [Tim Reynolds, as if you don't know, hit the limelight when he played with Dave Matthews a number of years ago. He is now doing solo work. He specializes in 12 string guitar. Amazing player.] Contact me off list if you are interested or are going. -- Vince Horst ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Dual *Pro* CD Recorders $494 - singles $294 Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:33:02 -0700 The DAT Store sale continues Monday with the lowest prices ever on like-new stand alone pro CD recorders. We're selling these as "used" with DAT-Store warrantee because of the low prices, but you'll recognize the "like new" quality when you open the box! Now-- Marantz CDR-500 dual-drawer PRO cd recorder (used) $494 Dub in DAO or track-by-track at 2X speed or record from DAT, CD, analog inputs, etc. Sample Rate Converter, ignores SCMS, uses cheap computer discs, digital volume & balance adjustment, CD- text, and all the features you'd expect from a pro CD recorder. Plus, we still have Sony, Tascam, Fostex, and Marantz single-tray Pro CD recorders for $294 (used). Sorry, the HHB's are sold out. Plus these consumer units for just $94 each (used): Philips CDR-880 Pioneer PDR-05 (consumer version of HHB 800 with classic "upside down" loading mechanism). Plus Marantz Pro CD players - super heavy duty with lots of digital and analog outputs -- used - now just $194! Also available - digital DV and D8 camcorders, digital still cameras, and a few DAT machines at the lowest prices ever... call for details! The DAT Store (310) 828-6487 11am-5pm Pacific time Mon-Fri thank you, --Gary ------------------------------ From: PeterE Subject: Tin Hat Trio--taper-friendly tour dates Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Attention CA & AZ tapers & music lovers: Tin Hat Trio, an acoustic group from the Bay Area & NYC, will be performing in Tucson on monday night(10/15/01) at the Solar Culture, and then in San Diego, LA, Berkley, San Fran, Portland, Seattle & Eugene(see schedule below). I caught them in Phoenix tonite(Sunday) and they were**FANTASTIC**. If you can, by all means do yourself a favor and catch them. They are quite taper friendly--in fact, Mark, the guitarist, advised me on the best place to put my mics(not up front, near the back--he was right!). The acoustic format is an interesting combination which blends guitar, violin and accordian beautifully. Their music is a unique blend of roughly ~40% folk, ~30%jazz, ~30% classical, and 100% talented musicians! If you do go and tape, let me know, I'd love a copy. And tell Carla(violinist) you heard about it from Datheads!. And last but not least, a major plus is that their show was super-bargain priced at $8.00. Just wait 'till SFX finds out about them... Tin Hat Trio tour schedule: Tucson (Solar Culture) mon 10-15 San Diego (Dizzy's) tue 10-16 LA (knitting factory) thur 10-18 Berkley (Freight & Salvage) fri 10-19 San Fransisco (Noe Valley Ministry) sat 10-20 Portland (Whitsell Audit) tues 10-23 Seattle (EMP, JBL Theater) wed 10-24 Eugene (Sam Bonds Garage) thurs 10-25 Thanks for the space, Pete ------------------------------ From: "D A T" Subject: FT: SCI 11/2/01 Taper Ticket Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:35:03 -0400 I have an extra taper's ticket to the String Cheese Incident at DAR Constitution Hall in Washington, DC on 11/2/01. I have the tickets in hand and could meet in the DC area to exchange or could meet prior to the show outside the venue. I have promised my "extra ticket" away but would like to make sure any tapers who got shut out have a chance to get their rigs in, esp. since constitution hall typically has less than 30 designated taper tickets available. Getting in to the tapers section without a tapers ticket, or rear balcony ticket, can be very difficult before the show at DAR. At Phil & Friends, I had to try about 4 different doors before I could catch an usher with their back turned. It may also be difficult getting your rig in the front door, although i did not have such problems last time. KP ------------------------------ From: "Bill Hoy" Subject: Wilco 10/02/01 Boston For Trade Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:33:49 -0700 Hello all - =20 I have Wilco 10/02/01 Avalon, Boston, MA for trade. =20 Core Sound HEB's > Oade Modified SBM-1 > Sony PCM-M1. =20 I can trade DATs, but I'd also like to get this onto CD. =20 I'm up for any trading if anyone would like it - recent Ryan Adams, Wilco, Jayhawks, anything.... =20 Thanks, Bill bhoy@eaw.com (still works) =20 ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: Dirty Heads Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:48:45 -0600 From: Mike Perkins Subject: Dirty (filthy?) DAT heads asked: > Do I actually have a worn out head assembly, or does it simply need clean= ing > with some appropriate chemical? The head drum of a full sized (30mm) DAT deck spins at 2000 rpm and the tap= e wrap is about 90 degrees; a portable deck has this tape wrap increased as the head drum diameter is usually half that of a full-sized deck. This rotation, among other advantages, allows the heads to achieve an air foil between the heads and the tape to reduce friction. The two small heads protrude into the tape ever so slightly to produce a 20-degree azimuth offset track width of just over 13 microns (13 microns =3D 0.000512=A0inches). As the head drum wears, the air foil diminishes with time and the abrasion of the tape continues to take its toll on the actual heads as well. The result is usually a marked decrease in head RF level output, error rate increases and gunk forming on the heads and on the drum itself. There is n= o substitute for a professional cleaning of the heads, drum and tape path, bu= t it may be a futile effort as the wear continues. Thanks! --=20 Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY=20 ------------------------------ From: "Bill Hoy" Subject: Bowery Ballroom? Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:44:54 -0700 Hello everyone - I am thinking of heading to the Bowery Ballroom in NYC for a stealth show, and I'm just wondering what the door-procedures are. Has anyone been recently that can help me out? Thanks, Bill ------------------------------ From: Nico van der Kamp Subject: Looking for recent Depeche Mode recordings Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:10:57 +0200 After reading a couple of hundred old digests I felt like I was ready for subscribing to the DAT-Heads. I'm a starter in live recording, didn't do any myself yet. Have got LOADS of Prince (the artist) recordings that I didn't do myself, including some excellent sounboards. I would love to trade for recent Depeche Mode, Bush or any other recent, interesting live shows. If you're not into prince but are willing to trade for blanks or whatever, please let me know as well.. Will start recording soon, using my good ol' tcd7 and a pair of SP hypercardioids. As soon as I have my first recording I'll let you all know! Nico ------------------------------ From: "Warren" Subject: Newbie Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:33:36 -0400 Hi, I'm brand new here and just wanted to say hello. I don't know how things work on the list yet, so I hope I'm not overstepping the boundaries. I'd love to get some Grisman material and Nickel Creek material in cdr trade. I have lots of Elvis, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Allman Brothers, Grisman, NCreek and several others. If anyone is interested please in trading, please let me know and I'll send my web page addresses. Warren ------------------------------ From: gthrush@du.edu Subject: NRPS / Grateful Dead - April 29, 1971 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Hello, I have an extra copy of the following show on CDR. Please e-mail me at gthrush@qwest.com if you are interested in trading a show of similar quality and length. Thanks!! NRPS / Grateful Dead - April 29, 1971 Fillmore East - New York, NY sbd: reel/m>dat>cd Bill Gadsden leak Disc 1 - NRPS set - Six Days On The Road Runnin' Back To You I Don't Know You Sailin' Henry Dirty Business Superman Lodi Glendale Train Fair Chance To Know The Weight Disc 2 - NRPS set cont'd - Portland Woman Last Lonely Eagle Louisiana Lady Honky Tonk Woman - GD set one - Truckin Bertha Hurts Me Too Disc 3 - GD set on cont'd - Cumberland Me & My Uncle Bird Song Playin Loser Dark Hollow Hard To Handle Disc 4 - GD set one cont'd - Ripple Me & Bobby McGee Casey Jones - GD set two - Morning Dew Minglewood Sugar Magnolia Black Peter BIODTL Second That Emotion Disc 5 - GD set two cont'd - Alligator> Drums> Jam> GDTRFB> Cold Rain China Cat>Rider Greatest Story> JB Goode Uncle John Bill Graham Rant encore: Midnight Hour> WBYGN ------------------------------ From: "Vikas Bhatia" Subject: FT: 9/14/01 Columbus, OH Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:32:03 -0400 taped Tool in columbus, oh, on Sept 14, 2001 turned out well, and its been remastered to CDR. looking to trade with other tapers primarily who have taped tool on any of their tours. the info is below. i'm pretty busy right now, so please send along your list or a link to make trades work as fast as possible. there are some specific shows i am looking for. i will also take the first 2 B&P requests i receive, only winners will be notified. 09/14/01 Schottenstein Center: Columbus, OH Sonic Studios DSM6s/L > PA6LC3(65) > Sony TCD-D100 FOB dead center 40' from stage Set I: The Grudge / Stinkfist / Forty-Six & 2 / Prison Sex / Schism / Pushit / Disposition / Reflection Set II: Parabol / Parabola / Eon Blue Apocalypse / The Patient / Ænima / Lateralus other interests: pearl jam ('91-'95), queens of the stone age, radiohead 2001, soundgarden, AIC, jerry cantrell, and more.... tool recordings history @ http://vikas.breakerfall.net/tool.htm ------------------------------ From: "Stanley W. Smith" Subject: Bob Dylan Stopped at Checkpoint Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:51:44 -0500 Ah the fun you can have with inexperienced security folks in blue vests... ;) Happy Monday, Stan Smith > Bob Dylan Stopped at Checkpoint > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011015/en/bob_dylan_security_1.html ------------------------------ From: "Charlie Miller" Subject: ISO: OysterheadTix For LA Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:43:23 -0700 Does anyone have One extra oysterhead ticket for LA? ------------------------------ From: Andrew Goldstein Subject: Looking For Heather Nova 2001 Reply-To: Andrew.Goldstein@morganstanley.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:55:29 -0400 Subject says it all. let me know if you can help. ------------------------------ From: "Stoker, Aaron M." Subject: ISO Allison Krauss/Union Station St. Louis show Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:57:54 -0500 Hey All-Did anyone record this show at the Powell Symphony Hall in St. Louis, MO on 10/13/01? If so please drop me a line. Thanks Aaron Stoker ------------------------------ From: Andreas Subject: Soundcard, USB, U2A, check (long) Reply-To: Andreas Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:11:03 +0200 How to check your digital soundcard with CoolEditPro (CEP) Check for bit-exact transfer Generate a soundfile like the following: 10 seconds of silence, then 20 se= conds of sound (e. g. tone with 55 Hz at -6 dB) and another 10 seconds of = silence. Save the file and import it into CEP multitrack view. Setup your = Soundcard and CEP to playback this generated track, feed the digital (SP/D= IF or AES/EBU) sound output to your digital sound input, and setup another= track to record this digital in. Arm the recording button and start recor= ding. If all is setup right, you will record a digital copy of your genera= ted track. Save this recorded track. For the result there are several poss= ibilities: CRC32-Checksum of source and copy are identical: nothing to do, playback A= ND recording are bit-exact, no resampling, no dither, nothing else is invo= lved (that's like in paradise:-), this soundcard can be used as a referenc= e device (I got one: a multi!wav pro, ISA). CRC32-Checksums are different: playback and/or recording are not bit-exact= , probably there will be hardware-resampling in the digital input. If leve= ls of source and copy are the same (statistics function) and silence remai= ns silence (sample value is constantly zero for the whole silence section)= this may be hardware resampling without dither. In case of identical leve= ls, but silence becomes noise with an amount of +- 1 sample value (i. e. += -1 LSB), this may be hardware resampling with dither.=20 If even the levels differ, there might be a malfunction (or poor card desi= gn). Check for continuity of your recording with CoolEditPro Create a basic file of about 5 minutes length with a constant tone of abou= t 55 Hz at about -12 dB FS. Amplify a few cycles at the beginning of every= 10 seconds by 3 dB. Amplify the same few cycles at the beginning of every= whole minute by another 3 dB. And also the same few cycles at the beginni= ng of the whole 5 minutes file. (Or create the first 10 seconds section an= d repeat it 6 times, then repeat the whole minute and so on) This file should be played back by one computer (or off a CD player, if bu= rnt to CD) and be recorded by your recording equipment (DAT, Notebook.....= ). Open the recorded file with CEP, zoom in to the first 8 - 10 seconds an= d change to "spectral view" (Not available in multitrack view). In spectra= l view you can see the amount of frequencies among time. The original file= should show a baseline at 55 Hz and no other components (only the 10 seco= nds "ticks" by raised amplitude can show some small higher frequencies) Now scroll through the file and check for clear vertical lines. Vertical l= ines show amounts of all frequencies and therefore stand for gaps, spikes = or steps in the signal. If there are no vertical lines, all seems to be ok= , you could then check for a longer time or at a higher zooming range. If = you find vertical lines, switch back to "waveform view" and have a look at= the signal there. My results: Egosys U2A, P II 366, 128 MB, 10 Gig, Win98 SE; with powermana= gement turned off both in BIOS and Windows, there are no glitches or gaps;= with active powermanagement (even when set to "always on") there are gaps= of about 80 to 300 milliseconds every two to three minutes, these are aud= ible! And the U2A does hardware-resampling with dither. ------------------------------ From: Graham Newton Subject: 90m DATs... source wanted Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:43:34 -0400 I'm looking for 90m DATs of the one-pass variety that used to be readily available for a dollar or two each... does anyone have any current sources for them? ... Graham Newton -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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