DAT-heads Digest #102


re: preamp comparisons ("Marc Nutter") comma-cazzi anyone? (JH) Re: which is it? ("John Kupchik") ISO: Stereophonics opener sets from current U2 tour ("jeffc") Extra SCI TAPER ("DRider") Cass>DAT...need reccomendations (ZAndersson@aol.com) iso: phish gamehendge ("astro zombie") Joe Strummer ("Hisashi Sugiyama") using record player instead of mics? ("Winnie Olmer") For Sale: Sound Professionals Bat. Box & Mics (mjackso5@tampabay.rr.com) Grateful Dead Dats Offer - Round 4 ("Paul Gibian") Re: Linux (Michael Miller) ISO: Stone Temple Pilots 10/26/01 & MMW ("Matthew Peters") Extra SCI 11-1-01 for trade (Thomas A Small) EMAGIC AUDIOWERK2 DIGITAL I/O SOUND CARD (Tom Cavanaugh)
From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com> Subject: re: preamp comparisons Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:59:36 -0700 HI Randy and All, >Subject: preamp comparisons >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:55:40 -0800 (PST) >hi folks! >anyone have comments pro/con regarding the AETA PSP2 (or 3) as >compared to the Sound Devices MP2? >tia and0m We have comparison tapes that I made last year. Yonder Mountain String Band Fox Theater--Boulder, CO Two pair MBHO 603a One pair to AETA PSP-3 for the entire show Other pair to MP-2 for first set and V2 for second set. Both to an M-1 without an external AD. Let me know if you are interested in copies. Marc Marc Nutter Sonic Sense, Inc. 2755 S. Gilpin St. Denver, CO 80210 Toll Free Phone (877) 324-4463 http://www.sonicsense.com
From: JH <kc7fys@pro-ns.net> Subject: comma-cazzi anyone? Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:01:22 -0600 >Hirose is "heh-row-see". > >and that's that. > >Thanks! > >-- >Regards, > >Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E., G.R.E., Y.M.C.A., A.A., E.T.C. >Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. >http://www.klay.com >1.800.FOR.KLAY Clay, your pronunciation of Hirose is heresy! Lemme hear you say kamikaze or sayonara--or even onara, for that matter! Jonathan, who bought his Sankens from Klay and still loves them!
From: "John Kupchik" <blueskied@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: which is it? Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:43:47 -1000 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com> > Subject: re: Which Is It? > Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:25:19 -0700 > > Hirose is "heh-row-see". A more accurate way of writing it would be "hero-say". All the vowels are short and unstressed. That's really how it is pronounced (using English words as sound-referents), though there is no stress in the word; just roll it off your tongue quickly without stressing anything and it should sound close to the way it should be said. cheers, john
From: "jeffc" <jcarvalh@lynx.neu.edu> Subject: ISO: Stereophonics opener sets from current U2 tour Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:51:08 -0500 Trying to hunt down any of these Stereophonics gigs... any help would be great! In fact if you have any Stereo gigs from the last year on DAT, let me know! And please email me privately.... last thing: friend asked me to hunt down some old Dylan set called "genuine basement tapes." now I am not one for bootlegs that have been sold but if you happen to have any variations of the source of these tapes, a helping hand would be great! Best regards to all and thanks ! ===== Jeff bwt: 2 B&Ps of BEN HARPER 1997-10-01 Horus Club, Rome FM on CDR
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net> Subject: Extra SCI TAPER Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 20:55:06 -0500 Hey Now! I have an extra SCI Taper ticket for Gainesville who needs it? D
From: ZAndersson@aol.com Subject: Cass>DAT...need reccomendations Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 20:01:39 EST I've come across a good # of cassettes that need to be duped to DAT. I need to pick up a cassette deck for this purpose. I've hit the used eqipment departments at the local hi-fi shops and came across these Nak decks for these prices. The machines seemed to be in good shape with no grooves on the heads and all functions worked properly.... are these reasonable prices, and which is reccomended? FWIW I doubt these were used by tape-traders. Nak BX1- $139 Nak BX-100-$149 Nak 480- $149 Would it be of any benefit to run the tapes through my SBM-1? Thanks for the help. Zach Andersson
From: "astro zombie" <carl_meow@hotmail.com> Subject: iso: phish gamehendge Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 19:28:06 -0600 hi! i'm seeking phish/gamehendge recordings... i have the demos and charleston 6-26-94 akg460... i don't have much phish to offer in trade, but i do have lots of other jam, rock, punk, metal, etc masters/clones to offer in trade... cdr preferred, dat ok too... -c bwt: dismemberment plan @ green room: iowa city, ia 4-13-00 csb > d8 dat-m > cdr (mics 7' high on pole 8' from center stage) * taping is a-ok per the band, go check 'em out - great indie rock! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
From: "Hisashi Sugiyama" <hsugi@jc4.so-net.ne.jp> Subject: Joe Strummer Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:18:28 +0900 Hello, I recorded his small club gig in Tokyo on Nov.1st. If anyone has tapes of his recent US tour, please contact me. I have lots to trade. Thanks, Hisashi Sugiyama / hsugi@jc4.so-net.ne.jp
From: "Winnie Olmer" <who@sover.net> Subject: using record player instead of mics? Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:50:27 -0500 I want to get my vinyl onto CD. The best A/D equipment I own is my Zefiro InBox. I have no idea if the mic inputs on my zefiro will accept the signal from my turntable. I have a very cheap Radio Shack "black box" that boosted the turntable signal enough to feed directly into my analog in on a SoundBlaster card. So I know that the turntable signal was so low that I had to use this 9volt powered "in line" amp. But as I've said... I know shit about electronics and I have no idea how the "raw" turntable signal compares to a mic output. Now that I have a digital card in my computer, and the Zefiro preamp/A-D, I'm wondering if it can be used to get my vinyl onto CD. Thanks!! Winnie ================================== "Imagine there's no countries, It isn't hard to do, Nothing to kill or die for, No religion too, Imagine all the people living life in peace..."-John Lennon Winnie Olmer mailto:who@sover.net ==================================
From: mjackso5@tampabay.rr.com Subject: For Sale: Sound Professionals Bat. Box & Mics Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:59:02 US/Eastern Hi. Have to get rid of part of my rig to pay some bills...I cry, you buy and get a great deal... Anyhow, I thought I'd throw these out to DAT Heads (to whom I hold ultimate allegiance) before I threw them to the sharks on eBay. I'm selling the following: 1. Sound Professionals "SP-BMC-1 STANDARD BINAURAL MICROPHONES," with Croakie Mount (for stealth operations) "SP-EMC-1 CROAKIE MOUNT OPTION FOR STANDARD OR MICRO BINAURALS" For the price, these mics are amazing and it is perfectly reasonable to think that a person would just stick with these for good. They are incredibly dynamic, impactful and all-around beautiful, especially considering their super-stealthy size. Compared to the Sound Professionals cardiods, I found these much better for what I record (rock/ pop/metal). The sound was more present and smoother, more alive with more realistically reproduced harmonics. I cannot speak enough about how much of a time and energy saver the Croakie mount is. You can actually enjoy your show while taping, rather than having to "watch out" the whole time. Microphones link: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category= 110&item=SP-BMC-1&type=store Croakie mount link: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category= search&item=SP-EMC-1&type=store 2. Sound Professionals "SP-SPSB-2 PREMIUM SLIMLINE BATTERY MODULE WITH BASS ROLL OFF" The bass roll-off on this thing is crucial if you're recording anything other than classical music. I've recorded many a loud rock show with absolutely no clipping and a rich, dynamic sound that is nothing short of wonderful. Very high quality box that will last you years on end. Battery box link: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/ category.cgi?category=310&item=SP-SPSB-2&type=store These have only been used twice and are in great condition. The retail price for these alone is $69, the Croakie mount option is $30 (total $99)and the battery box with bass roll-off is $79, for a grand total of $178.00. I am willing to part with the set for $125, representing a 30% discount off of retail. ***Also, if you respond from DAT Heads, I will give you free shipping!*** E-mail me at mjackso5@tampabay.rr.com now to get them. - Matt
From: "Paul Gibian" <ikoiko2u@home.com> Subject: Grateful Dead Dats Offer - Round 4 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:22:58 -0800 Hi, This is Round 4 of my Dats for CD blanks offer. Since 1997 I have traded dats, primarily Grateful Dead. I am converting my dat collection to cd. This is the 4th batch. I will not break it up into smaller batches so please don't ask. Round 4 goes to one person. If someone wants to get a quick start in the GD dat world this is a great way to do it. I'll accept three (3) Taiyo Yuden blanks for each dat. This exchange is well below current market prices for new dat blanks (as published at various sites, including TTapes.) I will pay postage to ship the dats to you for continental US only. Dats are Maxell labeled, unlabeled, or Sony DDS. Some are 60m, some are 90m. All have printed j-cards with song lists, lineage, etc.. Lineage is as it was provided to me at the time of trade. Caveat emptor, these are great tapes, however, some may have an occasional anomaly. I acquired them primarily through trades on BUDD and other credible sources. The following 43 shows reside on 50 dats. Several shows are filler on tapes. Several of the dats have filler not listed in this posting. This in exchange for 150 cdr blanks. If interested, please use the following in the subject field: Grateful Dead Dats Offer - Round 4 Thanks. Paul Gibian Date Location Sets Source GRATEFUL DEAD 08/24/68 Shrine Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA All S:Rm:D 05/23/69 Seminole Indian Village - Hollywood, FL Partial Fp:D GDH 098 07/05/69 Electric Theater - Chicago, IL 1,2 S:Cm:?:D 09/06/69 Family Dog at the Great Highway - San Partial S:Rm:C2:D Missing Dancin-> Jam, Casey Jones 11/08/69 Fillmore Auditorium - San Francisco, CA 1P,2 S:Rm:D BUDD Primal Dead Tree 12/12/69 Thelma Theater - Los Angeles, CA Partial Fp:D GDH 120 02/02/70 Fox Theatre - St. Louis, MO 1P S:Rm:D Missing Cumberland, Lovelight 09/20/70 Fillmore East - NYC, NY 1,2 S:Rm:R:R:D 11/20/70 The Palestra, U. of Rochester - Rochester 1P,2 A:Rm:R:D BUDD Tree 12/12/70 Santa Rosa Fairgrounds - Santa Rosa, CA 1,2 S:Rm:C:D:CD 02/18/71 Capitol Theater - Port Chester, NY 1,2 S:bR:P:P:D WBOTB Tree 07/02/71 Fillmore West - San Francisco, CA 1,2 Fp:?:D 11/07/71 Harding Theater - San Francisco, CA 1P,2 Fp:Rm:D Missing Uncle John's Band 12/01/71 Boston Music Hall - Boston, MA 2P Fp:D 04/14/72 Tivoli Theater - Copenhagen, DE 1,2P S:Rm:C:D Missing Brown Eyed Women 05/25/72 The Strand Lyceum - London, EN 2P S:Rm:C2:D 07/26/72 Paramount Theater - Portland, OR 1,2P S:Rm:D Missing Promised Land, He's Gone, Me And My Uncle 09/17/72 Baltimore Civic Center - Baltimore, MD 1,2 S:R:C:D Missing encore: OMSN 09/21/72 The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA 1,2 Fp:Rm:D GDH PreFM (MReel) >DAT>Sonic Solutions per David Gans 09/24/72 The Palace Theater - Waterbury, CT 1P,2P S:?:D 10/19/72 Fox Theatre - St. Louis, MO 1,2P S:R:C:D:CD Missing Big River 03/19/73 Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 2 S:Rm:C:D 03/24/73 The Spectrum - Philadelphia, PA 1P,2 S:bR:P:D Missing encore 09/11/73 William and Mary College Hall - 1,2 A:Rm:D 09/15/73 Providence Civic Center - Providence, RI 2P S:Rm:CD:D Missing Missippi Half-Step 12/02/73 Boston Music Hall - Boston, MA 2 S:Rm:D 07/31/74 Dillon Stadium - Hartford, CT 1,2P,3P S:Rm:?:D Missing El Paso>To Lay Me Down, OMSN, encore 10/18/74 Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA 1,2,3 S:Rm:?:D 06/15/76 Beacon Theatre - NYC, NY 1,2 S:bR:P:D 09/28/76 Onongada County War Memorial - Syracuse, NY 1,2 S:Rm:C:D 11/25/79 Pauley Pavilion, UCLA - Los Angeles, CA 1,2 S:Cm:D 07/01/80 San Diego Sports Arena - San Diego, CA 1,2 S:Rm:R:D 10/10/80 Warfield Theater - San Francisco, CA 1 S:bR:P:D 02/17/82 Warfield Theater - San Francisco, CA 1P,2 S:?:D Missing Minglewood->Sugaree 04/18/82 Hartford Civic Center - Hartford, CT 1,2 S:Cm:R:D 08/06/82 St. Paul Civic Center - St. Paul, MN 1,2 S:Cm:C:D 10/17/82 Santa Fe Downs - Santa Fe, NM 1P,2P Af:Cm:C:D 04/27/85 Frost Amphitheatre - Palo Alto, CA 1,2 S:P:D 11/05/85 The Centrum - Worcester, MA 1,2 S:Cm:P:D 08/16/91 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA 1,2 S:D 09/26/91 Boston Garden - Boston, MA 1,2 S:D 05/26/95 Memorial Stadium - Seattle, WA 1,2 S:D:C:D My last show :-( JERRY GARCIA BAND 11/25/83 Cleveland Music Hall - Cleveland, OH All S:Cm:D * Generated by TapeTracker for Windows (http://tapetracker.com/) *
From: Michael Miller <mcmiller@Radix.Net> Subject: Re: Linux Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:30:24 -0500 (EST) I use Linux almost exclusively. I would completely rid myself of windows except that TapeTracker won't run under Linux and I haven't had the time to get wine configured properly. I have run EAC under wine, but there is a problem with the display of fonts. I've heard that wine will use windows DLLs and fonts, but I haven't tried this yet. If anyone has already figured this out, please let me know what I need to do to get EAC running under wine. For linux there are several CD burning/DAE tools: cdrecord, cdwrite, and cdparanoia/cdrdao are the most commonly used. These are all command line tools but there are GUI front ends for them, XCDRoast and gcdmaster being the probably the best. The former works for both data and audio cds. The latter is strictly audio but provides a waveform display and editor and generates cue sheets. The last time I played with XCDRoast, I had some problems with DAE in paranoia mode but there has been an update since then. The cdparanoia libraries will do exact extraction, like EAC does under windows. If you need to do any audio editing or manipulation beyond cut and paste, you can use sox. It is very powerful but you need to use a commandline interface. I haven't found a frontend for sox yet. Now for the short comings of CD utilities under Linux. As of a few months ago, none of the utilities provide a configuration option to compensate for drive read and write offsets. I ran alot of tests to verify that cdparanoia and EAC produced identical extractions and they always did, except for the read offset. I used cdrecord (latest version supports dao mode) and cdrdao and verified the results. In some instances I found that the cdrdao written disks contained one or two duplicated blocks. So while I trusted the extraction tools with what should be the difficult part of the process, I couldn't trust the writer to lay down the audio data correctly. I got errors about 4% of the time. Initially I blamed the IDE burner that I use, but the same tests run using EAC proved that the drive was working correctly. Although the errors weren't audible, in our circle any less than a clone is considered a bad thing. But then there seem to be alot of people who use EAC for extraction and some other tool that does not support write offset correction to burn discs. I guess that anything worth doing is worth doing half assed. I never had a problem with the writers operating in data mode. So if you trade shns, then you should be able to use xcdroast under linux with no problem. There is a full suite of shn tools for linux but I haven't used them yet. The good news is that all of the source code for the GUI frontends and the base utilites is open source. If you are inclined to contribute to the open source community, you might want to add read/write offset compensation to the existing tools. This would bring the linux tools into line with what EAC can do. michael
From: "Matthew Peters" <mpeters@bowdoin.edu> Subject: ISO: Stone Temple Pilots 10/26/01 & MMW Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:37:14 -0500 Did anyone get this recent show? I'm also looking for '95 and earlier Medeski Martin and Wood. If anyone could hook me up with a B&P for the folling bands, that would be terrific. The Strokes Belle and Sebastien Addison Groove Project Uncle Sammy Thanks. Matt
From: Thomas A Small <tsmall420@juno.com> Subject: Extra SCI 11-1-01 for trade Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:36:28 -0500 Hey guys I have an extra copy of SCI 11-1-01 show from the Electric factory in phily. THe scource is Neumann>u89i>Ad1000. I Am looking for any SCI Fall tour, A copy of 11-2-01 from washington would be an extra bonus but any will do. Thanks guys hope to hear from you! peace tom tsmall420@juno.com
From: Tom Cavanaugh <Meurglys3@att.net> Subject: EMAGIC AUDIOWERK2 DIGITAL I/O SOUND CARD Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 12:46:40 -0500 Heads: Anyone have any experience with this sound card? It's currently advertised in a catalog from Guitar Center for $99 (lists for $299) I'm currently using a Midi Man dio2448 and was wondering if this EMAGIC card has a good track record. Particularly interested in knowing if the card resamples or not. I prefer not. The price seems reasonable. Tom
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