DAT-heads Digest #115, Volume #6 Thu, 15 Nov 01 22:50:01 EST Contents: iso: Scott Weber ("astro zombie") Happy THANXGROOVIN' from HBO(nlc x-post) ("Huffy") Therapy? Taping Policy?? ("Bas Ruesink") Test Post...Please Ignore (KindTaper@aol.com) Re: King Crimson Taping (Adam Aronson) What is Stanley Jordan's taping policy ("Sieving, Charles E.") recording/PC transfer problem ("John") Dat rig (David Hare) Recent Blue Floyd shows ("Lane Kelly") Extra DAT of Steve Kimock Band 12/22/00 ("Clay R. Caroselli") iso 2 ix for phil@oakdale (Scott C. Brown) Philadelphia Question (Curtis Claymont) ISO: HQ Jimmy Buffett ("Brian - Network Administrator") extra dats for grabs (derek jones) xtra dats (derek jones) Re: M1 battery issue (GuySonic@aol.com) off topic:cd wave (mike hooker) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "astro zombie" Subject: iso: Scott Weber Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:40:07 -0600 subject says it all... has anyone been in touch with Scott from Boston? i'm wanting to finish an old trade... i hope all is ok! -c bwt: Dismemberment Plan @ Green Room: Iowa City, IA 4/13/00 - 1CDR _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Huffy" Subject: Happy THANXGROOVIN' from HBO(nlc x-post) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:09:12 -0600 REVERB nex wed,11/21 on HBO Oysterhead/NMAS Next week catch an all-new show with Oysterhead, North Mississippi Allstars and Brand New Immortals. * Premieres Wed. 11/21 8pm ET I'll be catchin' NMAS LIVE that evenin' poor me ------------------------------ From: "Bas Ruesink" Subject: Therapy? Taping Policy?? Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:24:07 +0100 Does anyone know what is allowed these days, if any? bas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: Test Post...Please Ignore Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:03:02 EST This is a test post. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. ------------------------------ From: Adam Aronson Subject: Re: King Crimson Taping Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:22:40 -0500 On 11/13/01 10:50 PM, Jeff Lester wrote: > "Otto" asked: > >> Need advice for taping policy of KingCrimson on current/past tours. Any help >> would be appreciated. Getting ready for Dec 1st show in Detroit. > > How many times does it need to be said? Robert Fripp, and hence King > Crimson, is very anti-taping. Stealth at your own risk. > > -Jeff Lester Let it also be said that nearly every KC show in the past 17 years has been documented on DAT or cassette. Including recent Mexico City shows... Stealth at your own risk, indeed. I was once searched _leaving_ a ProjeKct Two show. Good thing I had an extra tape on me. If your efforts are fruitful I look forward to hearing from you. //aa -- Online list of tradable audio: http://www.aronson.net/audiolist.html ------------------------------ From: "Sieving, Charles E." Subject: What is Stanley Jordan's taping policy Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:59:01 -0500 > SSIA (I assume the answer is no taping allowed) This electronic message transmission contains information from the law firm of Hogan & Hartson L.L.P. which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by telephone (202-637-5600) or by electronic mail (PostMaster@HHLAW.COM) immediately. ------------------------------ From: "John" Subject: recording/PC transfer problem Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:57:28 -0600 Here is the scenario: I recorded a DAT on my M1 at 48, then dumped it to my PC using a Waveterminal 2496 going into CoolEdit. The WT2496 is set (I think) to output 44.1, handling the resampling on the fly, thereby feeding CoolEdit a 44.1 signal. This all works fine, and I have done this many times. But I recently compared my recording, which had been made into a SHN, to another recording made the same night. The second recording was recorded directly from the board to a Mac over 6 seperate tracks-- but lacking any applause or anything, as it was all board feeds. ANYWAY-- when we tried adding some 'ambience' from my recording to the Mac based recording, there was a strange shift-- either my recording was slowed down, or the Mac sped everything up.When I time-compressed everything by 9%, (the difference between 48 and 44.1 I was told), everything came back in tune and in tempo. Weird. So where do we start looking?? I am dumping the same DAT tonite at 48, and will try to compare that to my earlier 44.1 recording. Anyone know the WT2496 card inside and out? Or should I just go back to doing it the hard way-- having CoolEdit do the resample (painfully slow!). Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ From: David Hare Subject: Dat rig Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:14:34 -0500 Dat rig PCM-M1 SBM-1 CSB w/unswitchable Sony optical in out cable w/7pin Radioshack Lead Battery that gives me about 7 hours recording time. Power adapters nimh charger etc. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1297159198 ------------------------------ From: "Lane Kelly" Subject: Recent Blue Floyd shows Reply-to: lkelly@infi.net Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:45:58 -0500 Anyone tape any of the recent Blue Floyd shows? I know there have been tapers at several of the venues. Please get in touch if you did - I have over 50 Blue Floyd shows to trade, as well as a lot of other artists. Thanks! ***************************** Lane Kelly lkelly@infi.net ***************************** ------------------------------ From: "Clay R. Caroselli" Subject: Extra DAT of Steve Kimock Band 12/22/00 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 05:50:56 -0500 Hey Everybody: I have been "downsizing" my DAT collection and realized I have an extra copy of this show. It is recorded with Schoeps CMC6's>MK-4>V2>DAP-1. It's on (2) 60m DATS. Trades are always welcome. ~clay ~Check out My DAT and CDR list~ http://users.sgi.net/~claycar/list.htm ------------------------------ From: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (Scott C. Brown) Subject: iso 2 ix for phil@oakdale Reply-To: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (scb) Date: 15 Nov 2001 12:54:31 EST ISO 2 tix for phil @ the oakdale on tuesday. taper tix would be nice, but i'll take anything i can get :) scott ------------------------------ From: Curtis Claymont Subject: Philadelphia Question Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:08:58 -0500 Apologies in advance for the cross post. Has anyone seen a show at the First Union Spectrum in Philadelphia since 9/11? Wondering about the search on the way in, metal detectors, etc. Please email me privately. Thanks! Curtis "Austin has been a good music town for us for awhile. Both with the live shows and the recording of the CD -- the fan base here has been ahead of the curve everywhere else. I don't know what it is about Austin, maybe it's all the good barbeque." Keith Moseley ------------------------------ From: "Brian - Network Administrator" Subject: ISO: HQ Jimmy Buffett Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:21:53 -0500 Although I "mean" to grovel, I don't. Found out my boss is a huge Parrot Head, so I'd like to notch a person off the Chrismas gift list early. I'm switching from DAT->CD right now, so I've been piecing off my DAT collection in lots (to band lists) so my collection is diminishing, but I'll be happy to supply for a B+P or drop it down to CD and offer it back up for B+P in that form. Mainly jam band style stuff, but a few others: http://www.hypowerinc.com/dats2liquid.htm is the list if you want to glance prior to getting in touch. Thanks much & when I do find some (DAT, CDR, SHN), I'll offer it back up (regardless if it is part of the B+P/trade deal or not) for WOB Best wishes for a safe holiday next week! B(c) =========================================================== "Keep in mind when arguing with an idiot- passers by may not be able to tell the difference" ------------------------------ From: derek jones Subject: extra dats for grabs Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:34:25 -0700 I have the following SCI shows up fer grabs - ISO GD, JGB, SKB, WP, KDTU, or other tasty goodies- 10/7/97 Barrymore Theatre, Madison, WI all s:d 90 12/15/97 The Roosevelt Tavern, Ketchum, ID all s:d 90 12/16/97 The Roosevelt Tavern, Ketchum, ID all s:d 90 12/31/98 Henry J. Kasier, Oakland, CA all s/a:d 90 (matrix - b&k 4011's>lun v2>apogee) 7/04/98 Main stage @ High Sierra Music Festival, Ca all s:d 60 w/grisman quintet : ) 8/18/98 The Next Stage Theater, Ketchum, ID all s:d 90 8/19/98 The Next Stage Theater, Ketchum, ID all s:d 90 8/20/98 The Next Stage Theater, Ketchum, ID all s:d 90 4/3/99 The Vic Theater, Chicago, IL all a:d 90 (akg483>oadem248>smb1>dap1)w/ Tiny Universe Horns 2/9/00 Elkhorn Ballroom, Sun Valley, ID a:d 2x60 (akg483>V2>GP ADC20>d8) thanks, derek ------------------------------ From: derek jones Subject: xtra dats Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:48:25 -0700 also up for grabs - WSP 6/19/00 paolo soleri, santa fe, nm all af:d neumann tlm170>vms5u>ad500 2 x60m 6/20/00 paolo soleri, santa fe, nm all af:d neumann tlm170>vms5u>ad1k 90m thanks, dj ------------------------------ From: GuySonic@aol.com Subject: Re: M1 battery issue Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:16:36 EST In a message dated 11/14/01 5:37:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, tzvoyles@hotmail.com writes: << Subj: M1 battery issue Date: 11/14/01 5:37:02 AM Pacific Standard Time From: tzvoyles@hotmail.com (Ty Voyles) To: GuySonic@aol.com My take on the battery issue would be to get yourself a rechargable with two different breakout cables. This will save both money and space (i.e. trash) over the long haul. I had used batteries for a while in both my D8 and my M1. Eventually I built D cell battery packs and finally moved on to the Ecocharge solution. I guess my ecological voice inside my head finally got heard! I'm sure that if you were to grab a portable rechargable battery system from one of the dealers out there (my favorite is Frank at Cascade Media) then they would be happy to supply you with both 6v and a 4.5v breakout cables to run either of your decks. Hope this helps! Ty >> Hello Ty, I fully appreciate you sharing your perspectives about the need for practical portable power with an eye to having an environmentally kind disposal. It may be good to remember that both the D8 and M1 decks may be safely powered by 6 volt disposable OR rechargeable type batteries THAT ARE NOT ALSO CONNECTED TO THE CHARGER AND THE DECK at the SAME TIME where the voltage can exceed 6.5 volts that can stress the deck's internal switching power supply. While it's not a bad ideal, there is NO NEED to reduce to the 4.5 voltage for deck reliability reasons. I do agree with you that Lead/Acid batteries of all types are one of the most reliable rechargeable battery types, and are particularly easiest to maintain for having up to 10 service years. But remember, the eventual disposal of toxic battery types needs very careful environmental consideration; consumer/commercial grade L/A batteries last about 6 years with the best use/maintenance and then need to be set aside for toxic disposal procedures. For their beneficial merits, Sonic Studios has (for the past 10 years) offered commercial/aerospace grade L/A systems (longest lasting for up to 10 service years) as an alternative for portable equipment powering; these systems are shown on page. h ttp://www.sonicstudios.com/batsys98.htm However, the size, weight, and need for recharging of ANY rechargeable type battery is often not the best choice for needing exceptional reliability/lo-weight, very long running times (5-25 times that of L/A) and easy trekking to remote worldwide locations where battery recharging power and/or where charger size/weight is not practical. For maximum ease, reliability, and long-term environmental reasons, I suggest considering using the now universally available toxic free (NO Mercury) DISPOSABLE C/D size Alkaline Lithium disposable type cells. While Lithium and NiMH 'rechargeable' are disposable with few environmental concerns, they have a short service/shelf life of only 1-3 years. BOTTOM LINE: Alkaline C/D cell portable powering systems (as Sonic Studios has offered for over 9 years) have the longest running hours (up to 60 hours), can be stored for over 3 years, and are a TINY FRACTION of the weight of most rechargeable packs (exception: lithium is lighter), and are much more reliable than ANY rechargeable battery system; Alkaline cells are (finally) kind to the ecology (with having no toxic mercury) when needing to be replaced. Best Regards in Sound & Music Recording, Leonard (& Debbie) Lombardo, Owners ============================ Sonic Studios "17 Years of Making Audio History with DSM Stereo Microphones" Featuring Patented Headworn or HRTF Baffled Gear for Field & Studio 3-D Ambient Sound/Music Recording ================================= Informative Web Site: WWW.SONICSTUDIOS.COM Microphone, Headphone, MD/DAT Portable Deck equipment reviews+Tips+MP3 sound files USA FREE: 1-888-875-4976 1-(541)459-8839 TEL/ 42FAX ================================================ A better wish: "A bit of technical knowledge coupled to a great deal of fearless God-given wisdom serves us best" ------------------------------ From: mike hooker Subject: off topic:cd wave Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:45:50 -0500 hi, If anyone could be kind enough to send me the cd wave program( to split large files into tracks) i'd be most obliged. in the course of setting up win XP( what a horror) it dissapeared. thanks please see my music trading page: http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html have fun, mike hooker ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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