DAT-heads Digest #134
Contents:
ISO: Evan Dando / Lemonheads (Gary Watson)
Hugh Cornwell (ex-Stranglers' frontman) (Gary Watson)
Re: Schoeps rigs/Proper Lineage ("DRider")
Dat2Wav v1.2 available? (Edward Wylie)
DDS DAT Simplification, please (Keith Bode)
FS: Mics (TheWarehouse41@aol.com)
Recording Gear for Sale (Max Dawson)
Just starting NEED HElp ("Matt Hall")
"Night Of The Guitar" (Arnold van Heyst)
extra Oysterhead 11/09/01 on DAT for B+P ("Dan Greenberg")
iso: tapers in harrisburg, chicago, Minneapolis (Jbg0402@aol.com)
Any more STROKES Traders or Tapers out there? ("vitamin worm")
Landmine Benefit shows ("John")
anyone tape john paul jones/ king crimson? (Dgowc1st@aol.com)
FS: AKG C1000's and AT825 (Mtn Green)
Mermen @ the Croc 12/8/01 ("Degrado, Rob")
From: Gary Watson <gary@blandest.demon.co.uk>
Subject: ISO: Evan Dando / Lemonheads
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:46:50 GMT
Looking for all and any Evan/LH that I don't have. Have the following
master, not yet traded:
24.08.01 Reading Festival, Reading, England (Marantz EM-8>D8) 61m
From: Gary Watson <gary@blandest.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Hugh Cornwell (ex-Stranglers' frontman)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:49:55 GMT
Also, if anybody is interested in this guy, I have a master of a show that
he did back in July, must have been less than 50 people there, mostly solo
material but he also did some old Stranglers stuff (Golden Brown was the
only one I recognised). Didn't get the 2nd show, but this one is quite
nice. Marantz>D8
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Schoeps rigs/Proper Lineage
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:34:57 -0500
Hey Now!
Quite often w/ a public forum, there are different interpretations of what
someone actually means by their posts. Different people take different
concepts from multiple topic posts.
Some folks are now debating the syntax of proper source lineage. This all
comes from the first counterpoint rant to Max's original post. The first
counterpoint rant took one thing from Max's post and I took another. And
since nobody else has picked up on that side....
The point that I took from the original post was that tapes should be traded
w/ the complete and proper source lineage labeled on them. This goes back to
an original post that I made well over a year ago. Remember way back when
you were trading cassettes??
When you got the J-Card, it had the source info (if the person knew it)
along w/ the setlist per side. How often do you get that info when trading
now?
Has the Internet made people lazy?
Are traders just too busy to take an extra 30 seconds when labeling
something to send out?
If you are and etree/shn person, you may answer this question w/ an empathic
"NO!".
So what's so tough about labeling a freakin tape?
There are plenty of new traders out there or patchers that rely on B&P's and
convert to disc. Even if you are not new to this, you probably still learn
something new all the time. Not everybody knows the mk4/cmc6 thang.
Therefore, if the first person that labeled the source info was lazy, sloppy
or careless w/ their labeling job (which all equates to being
inconsiderate), this misinformation keeps getting passed around. That's a
load of crap!
How long does it take to label a tape w/ the complete and proper source
lineage?
I run Josephson mics. How many of you would know what I run if I told you
KA-500's?
Would you automatically know that I had C-603 bodies?
Would you know that the KA-500's were the hyper capsules?
This gets down to being considerate to your fellow tapers.
Each company has their own little idiosyncrasies. Schoeps are not Neumanns.
AKG's are not Schoeps etc. One company may discuss the path lineage in one
order, while another company may take a different approach. What becomes the
norm for that company, may not be the norm for another company. Companies
like Schoeps seem to have more than your average amount of capsules for
specific mic bodies and more than your average amount of mic bodies over
their years of operation. If a person does not run Schoeps, he or she has
not needed to become familiar w/ all this mix and match info.
So if one company says it one way and another company says yet a different
way, our task is to be consistent and not necessarily assume that the person
receiving the tape knows all these fine details.
I stopped eating at McDonald's over 13 years ago, but I still remember that
a Big Mac is "2 all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese on a
sesame-seed bun". But if someone never had a Big Mac before and never heard
that commercial, they probably would want to know what garnishes come w/
that sandwich. So they would ask. The person that told them should not cop
an attitude because they did not know. If the buyer liked the taste of the
sandwich, he or she would make a mental note of the fine details for next
time.
Don't assume that the person on the other end knows the fine details.
Remember what happens when you ass-u-me.
Don't make someone spend alot of time trying to hunt down the proper source
lineage for something you taped because you were too (expletive)
inconsiderate to take 30 second to properly label your (expletive) tape!
Here ends my rant.
For the record, Here's my source info:
Josephson C-603/KA-500(Hyper)>Denecke PS-1A(2x)>Zefiro Inbox>PCM-M1
Cloning Source: Sony R300>Sony R500
Have a Grateful Day!
DRider
~~~~~
From: Alex Prestin <wakko@bitey.net>
Subject: Re: schoeps rigs
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:31:54 -0500 (EST)
> From: "max erenberg" <live_sound@hotmail.com>
> Subject: schoeps rigs
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:18:25 -0700
>
> I'll first apologize for the following rant.
> It's time we fix this problem. Tapes made from Schoeps rigs need to be
> labeled correctly. You always see 64's, or say, cmc6/4>V2>ad100>dap1.
This
> is wrong, the signal path is mk4>cmc6>V2>ad100>dap1 so really the first
> example should be 46's,
Well, my Neumann AK40s and KM100 bodies magically become KM140s when I put
them together -- and nobody's suggesting I write the signal path as "AK40
> KM100 > . . ." It doesn't really make too much sense when everyone
(even Neumann) suggests KM140 is correct. In the same way, it doesn't
make sense to call a CMC64 a "mk4 > cmc6", since even Schoeps doesn't call
them that. You can argue semantics till the cows come home, but if it's
common parlance, there's not much you can do about it. (For another
example, ask a bunch of "hackers" how they feel about the news media's use
of that word...)
- A.P.
From: Edward Wylie <ewylie@mindspring.com>
Subject: Dat2Wav v1.2 available?
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 15:33:39 -0500
Only v1.1 is available at any URL which I have.
Does anyone have a source for the new version?
Ed Wylie
Atlanta
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: DDS DAT Simplification, please
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 15:32:00 -0800
I'm picking up what I can tryingn to follow this thread.
If someone
could reccomend a good drie, where to buy it at a
reasonable price, and
some windows, not command prompt but GUI or menu driven
software that
has worked well for them, I'd appreciate it. Also, does
doing this
require a digital sound card? And, can I use this DAT
drive as a player
to play DAT's out on a digital line to DAT>DAT dub? I
use a Ego Sys U2A
for my digital Audio card, and it's a USB external
device, it has
optical and coaxal out puts for digital. I have my
doubts about it
functioning the same as an internal card for DAT>WAV
conversion or
rips. Please write me off line.
Keith
From: TheWarehouse41@aol.com
Subject: FS: Mics
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:31:19 EST
Needing to raise a little cash. I'm offering up my Sound Professionals AT853s. Only been used 5 times. I've also got the Battery/Bass Roll Off Box for it. Not looking for much so just make an offer. Thanks
-Cameron
From: Max Dawson <planc@discobiscuits.com>
Subject: Recording Gear for Sale
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:12:34 -0800
I'm dismantling my home studio. The following items are for sale:
Two (2) Aiwa ADF-850 Single-Well Three Head Cassette Decks.
Features: Dual Captsan; Adjustable Bias, Record Sensitivity; Real-Time
Counter; Dolby B, C; MPX Noise Reduction
Asking: $40.00 each, $75.00 pair
One (1) Tascam DA-20 MKII DAT Recorder.
Asking $350.00. Includes 1 meter digital coaxial cable.
Buyer pays shipping and insurance,
Max Dawson
Director of Digital Media,
The Disco Biscuits
PLANC@discobiscuits.com
http://www.discobiscuits.com
From: "Matt Hall" <spreadymonkey@hotmail.com>
Subject: Just starting NEED HElp
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 21:40:29 -0500
I am thinking about buying a used sony d8 for 360 dollars. It has less than
40 hours on it. It works fine. Is that a good deal? I am also trying to
figure out what cables I will need to get so I can connect it to a patch
from someone's rig and to my computer. I also need help picking out a sound
card. I know these sounds crazy but, I need all of this stuff at a very
reasonable price. Thank you!
MAtt
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From: Arnold van Heyst <avan.heyst@quicknet.nl>
Subject: "Night Of The Guitar"
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:32:50 +0100
Who (in Holland) as recorded "Night Of The Guitar" on 02 Dec.2001
at "Heineken Music Hall",Amsterdam.
(Sardinas/Lukather/Vai)
Thanks in advance,
Arnold van Heyst.
Reaction only to: avan.heyst@quicknet.nl
From: "Dan Greenberg" <letitgro@warwick.net>
Subject: extra Oysterhead 11/09/01 on DAT for B+P
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:49:13 -0500
This is for the Oysterhead show at Utica, NY on
11/09/01. It was recorded w/ DPA 4023 mics
from the taping section in back of the sbd at the
rear (dfc) of the floor and is on one Maxell 90m DAT.
In return, I'd like a sealed Sony or Maxell 90m DAT
plus postage.
First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets
it (unless you're willing to do B+P's for others, which
I would give preference to...in which case tell me how
many you're willing to make).
-Dan-
From: Jbg0402@aol.com
Subject: iso: tapers in harrisburg, chicago, Minneapolis
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:12:47 EST
Hi
Will anyone be taping the following shows for
Hot Tuna
12/05: Sunoco Performance Theater, Whitaker Center, Harrisburg, PA
12/11-12: Martyr's, Chicago, IL
12/14-15: The Cedar Cultural Center, Minneapolis, MN *ALL AGES
i have plenty to offer
email me for my current trading list
thanks
jason greenberg
From: "vitamin worm" <vitamin_worm@hotmail.com>
Subject: Any more STROKES Traders or Tapers out there?
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:43:10 -0600
Hey everyone,
well as their american tour is wrapping up i thought i would ask if anybody
has any strokes recordings they would be willing to trade.
if please check out my list here:
http://fmorris.prohosting.com/
i have a small but growing (and somewhat obscure) list of strokes shows. i
also have hundreds of recordings by about a hundred different band, and tons
of masters.
thanks in advance!
--Frank Morris--
From: "John" <John@safesets.com>
Subject: Landmine Benefit shows
Reply-To: <john@safesets.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:35:32 -0600
The Landmine Benefit, aka Concert for a Landmine Free World. I went to the
first of these shows last night here in Chicago.. taped it as well, but
havent had time to listen to it all, so far, sounds good. I am hoping that
other DATHeads might be going to the rest of the shows, and hopefully taping
(stealth, Im sure) as well. Also looking for previous years shows, if any
exist! This years lineup features EmmyLou Harris, Steve Earle, Bruce
Cockburn, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Patty Griffin, and Nancy Griffith. Also--
if anyone has anything from Patty Griffin-- my wife would reward me
handsomely!!
12/2 Chicago
12/3 Detroit, MI State Theater
12/4 Cleveland, OH Playhouse Square's Allen Theater
12/5 Pittsburgh, PA Soldiers and Sailor's Memorial Hall
12/6 Glenside, PA Keswick Theater
12/7 NY, NY Beacon Theatre
12/9 Alexandria, VA Birchmere
Thanks to all!!
From: Dgowc1st@aol.com
Subject: anyone tape john paul jones/ king crimson?
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:36:38 EST
would like to get my ears wrapped around the jpj set especialy; can trade, b&p, do a soft shoe dance, whatever it would take.
if you have a nice copy, please get in touch
thanks
mike ahern
From: Mtn Green <mtn_green@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: AKG C1000's and AT825
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:34:48 -0800 (PST)
I've got a pair of AKG C1000's and an Audio Technica
825 Stereo mic for sale..
AKG C1000s - come in original boxes with wind screens,
static mounts and hypercard adapter. I purchased
these from a studio a couple months ago and they are
in immaculate condition. these run off 9-48v phantom
power or one 9v battery.
AT825 - Stereo mic that runs off 1AA battery or
phantom power, has bass rolloff @150hz, it comes with
shockmount and fixed mount, 15' cable 5pin xlr > (2)3
pin XLR and windscreen. Mic is in excellent condition
with a couple of very *minor* scratches.
I am looking to get 250/bro for the AKG pair and
250/bro for the AT825...email me offlist if
interested.
Thanks-Brian
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From: "Degrado, Rob" <Rob.Degrado@voicestream.com>
Subject: Mermen @ the Croc 12/8/01
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:44:52 -0800
This will be a hot December night in Seattle. I myself am committed to John
Hiatt at the EMP, so I was a bit disappointed to get this news just a few
days ago knowing I'd miss it. If anyone is/could tape it, I would be
grateful to get a copy - lots to trade. I'm not sure about board patches but
they do allow taping. This is surf/thrash at its finest and they don't seem
to stray too far from the native California often enough. Go to
http://www.mermen.net/ if interested, their touring the West Coast right
now.
Saturday December 8
Crocodile Cafe
2200 2nd Ave
Seattle WA 98121
206.448.2114
21+
doors @ 9 pm
show @ 10 pm
opening: Stradhoughton Echo, The Stares
tickets: $10
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