DAT-heads Digest #135, Volume #6 Tue, 4 Dec 01 02:50:01 EST Contents: ISO someone in the US willing to convert 2 videos to NTSC from PAL (Olympian90@aol.com) Mermen recording info/NW tour dates ("SHBR \(Stephen Brown\)") smaller, non-rigid battery "box" for stealth mikes? (Bill Pannifer) Re: Schoeps rigs/Proper Lineage (Jeff Lester) FS: Core Sound Omni Caps w/ Adjustable Bass Roll Off ("Tatina, Bill") multi-room speakers ("Phunk1") ISO: Curtis Claymont ("Richmond Mike") DAT Drive (Arnold van Heyst) Hank Williams III ("dAMN bAND") big *what*? (Keith Shapiro) Anybody tape this? (Geoff Lynch) Need mic help, Jupiter Coyote show available, and new DDS FTP add (William Draper) Sony SDT-9000 for audio Howto? ("Kevin M. Flanagan") Help!! ISO John Paul Jones 2001 NA tour ("Laurent Hotte") Re: Schoeps rigs/Proper Lineage ("Jackson Gibbs") DAT -> PC (Ted) Extra DATs for B&P ("Jeff Frank") Correct Semantics? ("Rick Mills") DDS drives ("Jamie Lutch") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Olympian90@aol.com Subject: ISO someone in the US willing to convert 2 videos to NTSC from PAL Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:58:51 EST Hello, everyone. I have two videos that I'm seeking someone to convert them to NTSC from PAL. The first is a Housemartins video collection (I have the original GO DISCS! video) and a 2001 appearance by the Cure on Arte TV. If you can convert these in hi-fi to NTSC, spin a copy for yourself and send back the originals + conversions, that'd be great. Hope to hear from you! Tim ------------------------------ From: "SHBR \(Stephen Brown\)" Subject: Mermen recording info/NW tour dates Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:08:55 -0800 Board patches are allowed for the Mermen (may be venue-dependent), but the mix is usually not great (heavy on drums and light on guitar since so much comes from on-stage) - you are better off going on- or foot-of-stage, FOB, or even matrix. Video is cool too! I'd appreciate copies of any tapes for the archive, mail me at steve@mermen.net - also for any Mermen taping tips. Thanks. Also, the mermenlist Yahoo Group is a good place to trade for shows. All NW tour dates: Wed 12-5-01 - WOW Hall, Eugene OR Thu 12-6-01 - Music Millenium in-store (5 PM), Portland OR Thu 12-6-01 - Satyricon, Portland OR Fri 12-7-01 - Reid's Pit Stop Longview WA Sat 12-8-01 - Crocodile Cafe Seattle WA Steve >From: "Degrado, Rob" Subject: Mermen @ the Croc 12/8/01 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:44:52 -0800 This will be a hot December night in Seattle. I myself am committed to John Hiatt at the EMP, so I was a bit disappointed to get this news just a few days ago knowing I'd miss it. If anyone is/could tape it, I would be grateful to get a copy - lots to trade. I'm not sure about board patches but they do allow taping. This is surf/thrash at its finest and they don't seem to stray too far from the native California often enough. Go to http://www.mermen.net/ if interested, their touring the West Coast right now. Saturday December 8 Crocodile Cafe 2200 2nd Ave Seattle WA 98121 206.448.2114< ------------------------------ From: Bill Pannifer Subject: smaller, non-rigid battery "box" for stealth mikes? Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:12:40 +0000 For some years now I've been recording/stealthing shows with Coresound cardioid and omni mikes, using Len's regular and bass cut battery boxes. I wondered if anyone could suggest alternatives to the metal Coresound boxes, which though heavy duty are rather bulky, and also too heavy in situations when otherwise a bit of tape would suffice to fix the mikes themselves to the wall, ceiling etc. Has anyone contrived a smaller/more flexible/less conspicuous power source for these? be happy to sacrifice some of the robustness to make them smaller and lighter. any thoughts appreciated Bill ------------------------------ From: Jeff Lester Subject: Re: Schoeps rigs/Proper Lineage Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:29:51 -0800 (PST) "DRider" >I stopped eating at McDonald's over 13 years ago, but I still remember that >a Big Mac is "2 all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese on a >sesame-seed bun". Ha! You forgot the pickles. :-) I know I was confused the first time I saw AKG481 or AKG483, I never actually got confirmation when I asked what they stood for. I assume that 481 is an abbreviation for 480B+CK61. I've always list them as 480B+CK61 or 480B+CK63. -Jeff Lester ------------------------------ From: "Tatina, Bill" Subject: FS: Core Sound Omni Caps w/ Adjustable Bass Roll Off Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:52:37 -0700 These mics are in GREAT shape. Need $$ for X-Mas. Will sell for 160.00 shipped in the USA. New cost is 260.00 ------------------------------ From: "Phunk1" Subject: multi-room speakers Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:23:45 -0500 a little off topic, but you guys are so damn knowledgable that I couldnt help but ask.... I just moved into a huge apartment here in Brooklyn, and I want to setup some speakers around the apt....like kitchen, bathroom, etc. Can you guys recommend some small, low powered, decent speakers? Not audio-phile quality, but solid speakers... any thoughts? wob SKB 11/11/01 sick on-stage MK4v's ------------------------------ From: "Richmond Mike" Subject: ISO: Curtis Claymont Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 15:27:01 -0500 Curtis, Lost your e-mail.. please, get in touch. got some tapes you HAFTA have. Boogie On! Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Arnold van Heyst Subject: DAT Drive Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:37:33 +0100 Can anyone tell me if the Sony DAT Drive SDT-9000 is capable to -READ- and -WRITE- normal audio data to standard audio and data dds tapes? These tapes must be playable in an ordinary DAT recorder. If it's not the Sony - wich device is capable to do this? Thanks in advance, Arnold van Heyst. mailto:avan.heyst@quicknet.nl ------------------------------ From: "dAMN bAND" Subject: Hank Williams III Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 14:43:09 -0600 Hank Williams III and The Damn Band (www.hankthree.com) once again more dates this man is 100% taper / video friendly.. tripods, mic stands welcome... 12/14 The Blue Note Columbia, MO 12/15 On Broadway Springfield, IL 12/19 The Diamond Back Saloon Lawton, OK 12/20 Stickey Fingers Chicken Shack Little Rock, AR 12/21 WW Fairfields Richardson, TX 12/22 Ice Palace Monroe, LA 01/31 CO The Starlight Ft. Collins, CO 02/02 Bluebird Theater Denver, CO 02/04 Continental Club Houston, TX 02/05 Continental Club Houston, TX 02/06 Continental Club Austin, TX 02/07 Continental Club Austin, TX 02/09 Trees Dallas, TX 02/16 Highland County Fair Sebring, FL also doing B&P for DAT clones of older shows feel free to email me for any questions Peace HenryJ thatdamnband@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Keith Shapiro Subject: big *what*? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:43:35 -0500 (EST) actually ... it's "two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, *pickles*, *onions*, on a sesame seed bun" But I still think I'd label that "Big Mac" on my source information. Now does anyone remember the McDonalds menu song? Keith CSB > Big Mac > M1 (line) -- Keith D. Shapiro keither@torilive.org http://www.torilive.org/ ------------------------------ From: Geoff Lynch Subject: Anybody tape this? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:43:18 -0700 SSIA ANASTASIO, WEIR IN FORUM ON "THE POWER OF MUSIC" Phish guitarist Trey Anastasio will be part of a forum on "The Power of Music", Thursday November 29 at 8 p.m. at the Bushnell Theatre in Hartford, CT. The event, which is sold out, is hosted by Lincoln Financial Group. The other members of the forum will be Grateful Dead member Bob Weir, television and music star Beverly Sills, and bassist Nicholas Payton, with A&R executive (and author of 'A&R') Bill Flanagan as moderator. For more information, see www.ctforum.org, which gives as an abstract: "Music connects with a part of our being on so many levels, in so many ways...emotionally, physically, intellectually. Our exciting panel explores the magic, mystery and power of music...a tradition, an industry, a powerful voice in society." (from phishnews at www.phish.com) Geoff Lynch Inside Sales MacroSystem US the digital video company 5485 Conestoga Court Boulder, CO 80301 Phone: 303-801-1027 (direct) or 303-440-5311 x1027 Fax: 303-440-5322 mail to: geofflynch@casablanca.tv Web: http://www.casablanca.tv ------------------------------ From: William Draper Subject: Need mic help, Jupiter Coyote show available, and new DDS FTP add Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:51:35 -0500 several notes: 1. i may have the option to buy a set of at853s or a set of akg c1000s. i know which way i'm leaning, but i'd like some input from other people, especailly users of these particular mics 2. i have the jupiter coyote show form raleigh, nc the other week if anyone wants a copy 3. my ftp server has changed addresses from weddms.dyndns.org to h-dog.ugate.net. in addition, i have moved it from adsl to cable modem, so it will actually be functional now! all old logins are valid, as stated on the dds ftp site. thanks, wed ------------------------------ From: "Kevin M. Flanagan" Subject: Sony SDT-9000 for audio Howto? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:35:43 -0500 I've done some searching and it appears that this is the best of the drives sold for computer backups to use for audio. It doesn't suck for backups either, at least not at home. The info is kind of sketchy and scattered. Does anyone know of a single good source for info on making this do audio extraction? TIA, Kevin +-------------------------------------------+ Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army. -- Edward Everett ------------------------------ From: "Laurent Hotte" Subject: Help!! ISO John Paul Jones 2001 NA tour Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:55:01 -0500 I would like to get people help to try to get John Paul Jones recording of his North American Tour. Here are the dates that I'm looking for: Nov 14 The Warfield San Francisco, CA Nov 15 Universal Ampitheatre, Los Angeles, CA Nov 16 Web Theatre, Phoenix, AZ Nov 17 House Of Blues, Las Vegas Nov 21 Grand Ballroom at RiverCentre, Minneapolis, St Paul, MN Nov 23 Barrymore Theatre, Madison, WI Nov 24 Chicago Theatre , Chicago, IL Nov 25 The Pageant , St. Louis, MO Nov 26 Murat Theatre , Indianapolis, IN Nov 27 The Madrid Theater, Kansas City, MO Nov 29 Promowest Pavillion, Columbus, OH Nov 30 Lakewood Civic, Cleveland, OH Dec 01 Royal Oak Theatre, Detroit, MI Dec 02 Palace Theatre, Greensburg, PA Dec 04 University of Buffalo, Centre for The Arts Buffalo, NY Dec 05 Massey Hall, Toronto, Canada Dec 06 Place Des Arts , Montreal, Canada Dec 08 Orpheum Theatre, Boston, MA Dec 09 Palace Theatre, New Haven, CT Dec 11 Tower Theatre,, Philadelphia, PA Dec 12 Lisner Auditorium,, Washington DC Dec 13 Beacon Theatre, New York, NY Dec 14 Beacon Theatre, New York, NY I have a good list of Led Zeppelin & related to offer in exchange. You can check out my tapelist at: http://www.geocities.com/drzeuss649/TAPELIST.HTM Thanks for your help. Laurent ------------------------------ From: "Jackson Gibbs" Subject: Re: Schoeps rigs/Proper Lineage Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:33:20 -0800 > something new all the time. Not everybody knows the mk4/cmc6 thang. Yes! As someone who has been regularly confused and/or mystified by lineages in the past I'd just like to voice my agreement. It can be real work deciphering lineages if you're not a long time taper. Providing clear lineages makes the hobby much more accessible to the taper interested in getting his/her own rig. Myself, I'd be satisfied with being able to copy whatever's between two >'s, paste it into google, and have a reasonable chance of getting a hit that explained the thing to me. -Jackson ------------------------------ From: Ted Subject: DAT -> PC Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 22:05:49 -0800 Hello heads, I bought a DAT/DDS drive from Doug Mashek (www.mashek.com) and DAT2WAV 1.1 software from Jim McLaughlin (http://www.ncf.ca/~aa571/contact.htm). Now I can transfer a recording from tape to hard disk at double-speed without putting wear on my expensive DA-P1 or worrying about a stupid sound card resampling the data. As a bonus, I can use the tape drive in DDS mode to back up my hard disk. If you're thinking of doing this, here are a few things to consider. In order to install the DAT drive in your PC, you'll need a SCSI host bus adapter card (e.g. Adaptec 29160N) unless your motherboard has integrated SCSI. You'll need a SCSI cable with the right connectors. SCSI cables are expensive, so I bought the HBA in a retail box, including cables, rather than as a bare "OEM" unit. The form factor of the DAT drive is 3.5" wide, 1.6" tall (half-height). If you want to mount it in a 5.25" bay, you'll need two mounting brackets (Seagate part MTGS) and a bezel (Seagate part B5W or B5B). Neither Mr. Mashek nor Seagate had MTGS or B5W in stock when I bought the drive. I ordered them from www.ichq.com. The DAT drive gets hot. I'm building a new PC in a full-tower case with ten bays and am going to leave an empty bay above and below the DAT drive. If you decide to order DAT2WAV software from Mr. McLaughlin, note that the fax number on his web page is incorrect: the area code has changed from 407 to 321. The O'Reilly book "PC Hardware in a Nutshell" by Robert and Barbara Thompson gives lots of helpful info about working on PCs. Check out the Thompsons' web page at http://www.hardwareguys.com/ I hope this is helpful to someone. Cheers, Ted ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Frank" Subject: Extra DATs for B&P Reply-To: "Jeff Frank" Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:57:18 -0600 Well I've been catching up some housecleaning and I have the following extras: GD 6/19/76 Fp:RM:D 90m Sony DG Missing NFA encore GD 12/10/93 S:D 90m Masterdat 1 second dropout at 1:04:04 mark in Fire on the Mountain. Mule 9/29/01 As:D 90m Sony DG AKG 483>AD1K>D8 (taped next to SBD) WP 5/7/97 S:D 90m Sony DG SCI 4/21/91 A:D 90m Sony DG AKG 483>AD1K>D8 WP II 10/29/00 A:D 60m Sony DG AKG 483>AD1K>D8 (can spin set 1 too) SKB I 4/28/01 Aos:D 60m Sony DG Schoeps MK21>V2>AD2K (can spin set 2 too) Just looking for B&P, but willing to listen to CDR offers in return. ------------------------------ From: "Rick Mills" Subject: Correct Semantics? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:28:11 -0800 Group... Since this is a public forum... I rant: I'm a regular lurker on this site - would love to trade, have nothing of interest to offer & don't see shows anyone here sees. B&P for a Modern Jazz Quartet show before Connie Kay died? Any DeCamera Society shows? Work wise, I'm a Production Sound Mixer - dialogue & effects - and we have to label our tapes so the next person in the chain knows what's up. Things get weird enough with out screwing up the notes & labels. It's a few seconds more to record all the relevant info. - everybody's so good with most of the signal path, why not get the whole thing correctly? MK41>CMC6 vs. CMC64 (as on the order form) seems a bit semantic to me, but the 6/41 thing is too much short hand to get the point across to everyone, if that's what you want to do. Ok, can't help it... I know I'll get flamed big for this but... Run nice Schoeps/Neumann>DAT to record P.A.? I have to hear that P.A. I use 'em to record whispering & rain drops. (ok, minor exaggeration) An aside: What do you do about vibration and excess SPL & LF? Does anyone use a Schoeps DZC 10/20 or a Cut One filter? Oktava? Anything MS out there? BTW, my recent signal chain: Schoeps CMC64/Neumann 81i & or Sanken CO11>Sennheiser SK50>3041U>Pre Sonus VXP>Cooper 106>Pre Sonus ACP22>FostexPD4 & Deva II. Rick ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: DDS drives Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:34:33 -0800 > I'm picking up what I can trying to follow this thread. > If someone > could reccomend a good drie, where to buy it at a > reasonable price, ok, your options are: 1. find a drive on ebay for <$100 and tear your hair out trying to upgrade it to read audio. eventually the drive will collect dust 2. buy a used audio capable seagate ctd-8000 from mashek for $200 or a new one for $300 (these read audio at ~1.5X) 3. Find an SGI sony sdt-9000 for $300-$600, and hope it has the right firmware (unlikely). new ones with the right firmware are close to $600. This has a better head than the seagate apparently, and is a 4X drive, which reads audio at about 3X. and > some windows, not command prompt but GUI or menu driven > software that > has worked well for them, I'd appreciate it. dat2wav ($50) is command line, it didnt really work well for me with my sdt 9000. VDAT ($100) works great though, but it is quirky. once you learn the tricks, it works well. decent interface. I think its less buggy with the seagate drives, thats what it was developed for. >Also, does > doing this > require a digital sound card? no > And, can I use this DAT > drive as a player > to play DAT's out on a digital line to DAT>DAT dub? with VDAT, yes, but you shouldnt trade that way. You'd need to go through wave mapper, who knows what happens to the signal there. Safer to go dat>wav>dat in two steps. >I > use a Ego Sys U2A > for my digital Audio card, and it's a USB external > device, it has > optical and coaxal out puts for digital. I have my > doubts about it > functioning the same as an internal card for DAT>WAV > conversion or > rips. like with any card, you need to test it for bit accuracy (which 99.5% of the people trading these days have never done!) Youd be surprised at how many samples are dropped by incorrectly configured systems. (esp usb ones like the U2A) If you already have a U2A, why do you need a dds drive? In any case if you go DDS drive, expect to extract twice and compare each wav either via eac's wav compare or by inversion. Then fix flaws with a pencil tool. DDS drives have *zero* error correction, so all of those flaws your audio dat can interpolate become audible. I've ripped many a newer tape that was bit for bit perfect, but I would come across older tapes that would not extract cleanly, I had to go to the standard dat>soundcard route. Anyway, byusing the DDS drive I got into the habit of transferring all of the stuff twice and comparing it, now I do the same thing with two completely independent DAT>soundcard setups. Same deal, they cancel out completely via inversion on a good tape, and give me a bunch of spots to check on tapes with errors. (error correcting algoritms on different dat decks act differently, so I see where there are 'errors', but the majority of the time the errors arent audible like with the dds extraction. usually a pop from a dds drive is one misplaced sample way off the waveform (you can truly see the extent of deterioration of your tapes!), an audio dat would easily interpolate this. I'm not gonna knockj dds drives, they do give you bit-for -bit perfect extraction in most cases, but you need to invest the time to correct where it throws samples off the waveform. not for everybody. > ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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