DAT-heads Digest #136, Volume #6 Tue, 4 Dec 01 23:50:00 EST Contents: Source and such... (David Taylor) Big Mac Lineage (Dan Gale) ISO Dead 9/24/88 ("Michael Ryan") RE: Correct Semantics? (Paul Butterfield Audio) FS:Tascam RC-30D Remote Control ("Winnie Olmer") ISO: Rusted Root (CBTSC3@aol.com) Re: DDS drives (Erich Eyler) Anyone use the Philips CDR775? (james peterson) iso: dylan/harrison session ("Steve Trick") Re: tascam cdrw700 problems ("John R. Vanderpool") FS:AT853s/Zefiro Inbox ("Marc Becker") ISO Black Crowes & rock tapers in general . ("seethreepo2") MORE :ISO Black Crowes & rock tapers in general . ("seethreepo2") schoeps rig fs (Bootzila@aol.com) ISO: PCM-M1 New ("Brian $Pink Floyd$") AKG C1000 (William Draper) 16 or 24bit when transfer from dat to hd? ("spider john") Hello - Im New ("Worbit 2001") sdt-9000 ("Jamie Lutch") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Taylor Subject: Source and such... Reply-To: drtaylor@earthling.net Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:52:09 -0800 (PST) Source Lineage is easy... and I am new to this... State what you know, and if you don't understand whats being traded. DON'T DO THE TRADE. My literal source..... (generic pa system info)->air(68 degrees or whatever)->KA-200->MBHO 603a->Audio Magic 15'->Sound Devices MP-2->Tascam DA-P1 or Sony PCM-1 With my handwriting, i can't fit that on a j-card so what you will see is.... MBHO 603a/200->MP2->M1, of course this assumes i don't use the active cables,my KA-500 caps or DA-P1. If you need more detail I am glad to provide it. Just ask. - dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Dan Gale Subject: Big Mac Lineage Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 00:12:13 -0800 ==============060702090003000209040201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I stopped eating at McDonald's over 13 years ago, but I still remember that >a Big Mac is "2 all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese on a >sesame-seed bun". Ha! You forgot the pickles. [:-)] Actually, he forgot the pickles and the onions ;-) I can't say I've ever eaten a Big Mac but the jingle is permanently welded in my brain... As for the Schoeps, I actually think some of their lineage has been straightened out at least in my mind after all of this...of all the mics, I've always found the Schoeps lineages the most cryptic...maybe that's why I'm a Neumanns guy :-) I agree with a recent post that hopefully one of the best things that can come out of this is some motivation by all to make sure they always include complete and accurate lineage with all recordings they trade, and when you can't be complete due to some aspect being unknown, state so. I setlist is always nice as well, but I'll take the lineage info over a setlist any day. ==============060702090003000209040201 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------070100060801020306030004" ==============070100060801020306030004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>I stopped eating at McDonald's over 13 years ago, but I still remember that
>a Big Mac is "2 all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese on a
>sesame-seed bun".


Ha! You forgot the pickles. 

Actually, he forgot the pickles and the onions  ;-)  I can't say I've ever eaten a Big Mac but the jingle is permanently welded in my brain...

As for the Schoeps, I actually think some of their lineage has been straightened out at least in my mind after all of this...of all the mics, I've always found the Schoeps lineages the most cryptic...maybe that's why I'm a Neumanns guy :-) I agree with a recent post that hopefully one of the best things that can come out of this is some motivation by all to make sure they always include complete and accurate lineage with all recordings they trade, and when you can't be complete due to some aspect being unknown, state so.  I setlist is always nice as well, but I'll take the lineage info over a setlist any day.

==============070100060801020306030004== ==============060702090003000209040201== ------------------------------ From: "Michael Ryan" Subject: ISO Dead 9/24/88 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 01:36:03 -0800 Hey Now All ! My cassette just gave its final performance of this great show. I am looking for a good clean HQ copy on either DAT or disc of this star studded show. FM or Board only please... Also looking for some stellar 1976 Boards, Man , was that a great year or what? Like the first night at the Tower in PA. June I think it was . Or the Paramount shows in OR. to start the tour off. Man I can just feel Phil making my chest vibrate to the bone . Or how about the Greek Theatre run in '82. Killer China/Rider! They still had that 'woody 'sound to them, you know,not much in the way of electronic sound . Also I posted a couple months ago asking any and every Dead collector what their favorite Phil and Jerry show was/is. Drop me a line with your favorite show. I remember a couple and should have them soon but would love others opinion's. I am looking for any or all of the above. E me and I will send list. Please use the following address.. luv2brew@yahoo.com for any correspondence... TIA, Peace, Michael ------------------------------ From: Paul Butterfield Audio Subject: RE: Correct Semantics? Reply-To: paulbutterfield@usa.net Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:41:30 -0500 Gotta jump in on this one... Hi Rick, DATheads — I'm in a similar situation, but just starting to trade, and do not go to 99.6% of the shows you folks do. PA *always* too damn loud! I mainly did field recording of Folk and acoustic music in the pre-DAT era. Documentary sound a la Lomax. As a Production Sound Mixer, retired (IATSE/A1) I'm in complete agreement with Rick on labeling. I even get confused at some of the signal chain abbreviations I see here... but then, I'm still lurking and learning... No flames from me on world class mics used to record PA... I'll be right behind Rick with a tank o' Halon... Yes, me. MS: Neumann RSM190i (with Rycote when necessary)>Merrica 48v power supply>[analog tape recorder]. XY: DPA 4041 matched stereo pair>HMA4000 amp>Tascam DA-45HR @24/48 Mixer? Don't need no steeeenkin' mixer! I'm a manly sound man, ridin' levels, whilst walkin' fourteen miles through barbed wire fence doing doc sound of Florida Mexican Music — in the rain — in the dark — during a hurricane ... [True!] List sometime next year... Paul (Mojo Ear) B "Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad." - Angela Monet ------------------------------ From: "Winnie Olmer" Subject: FS:Tascam RC-30D Remote Control Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:10:50 -0500 Tascam RC-30D Remote Control will work on DA-20mkII or 30mkII. May work with other Tascam decks. Check your manual or jack on rear panel of deck. $25 plus shipping. ================================== "Imagine there's no countries, It isn't hard to do, Nothing to kill or die for, No religion too, Imagine all the people living life in peace..."-John Lennon Winnie Olmer mailto:who@sover.net ================================== ------------------------------ From: CBTSC3@aol.com Subject: ISO: Rusted Root Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 12:10:27 EST Looking for any Rusted Root shows. Have plenty of other shows by similar/other artists to trade. Thanks. Craig Sokol ------------------------------ From: Erich Eyler Subject: Re: DDS drives Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 12:17:11 -0500 At 11:34 PM 12/03/2001, Jamie Lutch wrote: >3. Find an SGI sony sdt-9000 for $300-$600, and hope it has the right >firmware (unlikely). new ones with the right firmware are close to $600. I purchased a new sony sdt-9000 drive (for backups at work, not to read audio) and it does NOT have the correct firmware to read audio. thought i'd try it out anyway since i had it already. I would not recommend purchasing it for this option. -Erich ------------------------------ From: james peterson Subject: Anyone use the Philips CDR775? Reply-To: soulcraft@worldnet.att.net Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 14:15:05 +0000 hey folks, looking for some info on the CDR deck, Philips CDR775, I've already looked at the specs and know this is a consumer unit, but Im wondering if anyone has actually used this unit. thanks in advance. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Trick" Subject: iso: dylan/harrison session Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 18:37:21 +0000 ssia, now i've seen this one everywhere, anyone interested in a small quick trade? steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "John R. Vanderpool" Subject: Re: tascam cdrw700 problems Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:24:42 -0500 (EST) brucemorris@webtv.net said > TaScam took almost 2 months to send mine back broken. It took over 3 > months for mine to get resolved. These only come with a 3 month > warranty, so, mine was gone longer then it had been working. .... > The CDRW700 is a shakey piece of gear in my opinion. I've met people > that own them... we exchange war stories. None has any confidence that > we can trust it 100%, and are just glad that they're working for the > time being. I haven't had to re-boot mine (by unplugging) for along > time now, but, still regret buying it. this is probably another case of good production runs and bad ones - i've had zero problems with mine for over two years (except for some minor firmware bugs i've found that i can work around) and have actually seen hardly any complaints from other users about the unit -fish -- thanx, fish . , . .:/ . ,,///;, ,;/ . o:::::::;;/// >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ ';\ make me an angel that flies from montgomery, make me a poster of an old rodeo. just give me one thing that i can hold on to, to believe in this living is just a hard way to go. -john prine ------------------------------ From: "Marc Becker" Subject: FS:AT853s/Zefiro Inbox Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:10:08 -0500 I am looking to sell a pair of AT853's and the battery box with bass roll off along with the zefiro inbox. I purchased them a year ago and they are in excellent condition. I upgraded 4 months ago and realize I do not have a need for them any more. I purchased the AT853s with batt box for ~250 and the inbox for ~$349 new from the Sound Professionals. Please e-mail me if interested with reasonable offers. I also have a D7 that I will be selling after the holidays if interested as well. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "seethreepo2" Subject: ISO Black Crowes & rock tapers in general . Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:56:17 -0800 Black Crowes 12/06/96 Heyman Performing Arts Center Lafayette, LA USA 11/11/96 Boathouse Norfolk, VA USA 07/07/96 The Joint @ The Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas, NV USA does anyone on the list have any of the above shows or know anyone who might have taped them ? Please let me know I can make it very worthwhile. I'm also looking for any classic rock , hard rock DAT tapers from Toronto and Montreal I tape on the "left" coast and have done so since 1994. ------------------------------ From: "seethreepo2" Subject: MORE :ISO Black Crowes & rock tapers in general . Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:42:11 -0800 also ISO the following Black Crowes Black Crowes, The: A AUD Austin, TX 12/08/96 92' DTM "Austin City Coliseum" AT4051 A AUD Dallas, TX 12/07/96 119' DTM "Dallas Music Complex" AT4053 ------------------------------ From: Bootzila@aol.com Subject: schoeps rig fs Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:50:43 EST After much debate I have decided that I need to sell my Schoeps rig. =A0I wo= uld=20 like to sell this as one package deal, because there is no sense in holding=20 onto part of the rig if I have sold the rest. =A0However I am willing to=20 consider selling the mics et all in one lot and the sax and sbm in another.=20 =A0Please reply via email to me regarding price and offers. =A0This includes= : 2 cmc6 bodies, 2 mk4 caps, 2 mk41 caps, 2 kc5 cables, 2 lightwave=20 windscreens, Oade mod sbm-1, sonosax sx-m2, 12v SLA battery and charger for=20 the sax, 2 stands, shock mount, stereo bar, cables, and hard case to put it=20 in. =A0All of it is in great condition, with recipts, matching certificates,= =20 etc. =A0 Thanks Greg Ehle Bootzila@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Brian $Pink Floyd$" Subject: ISO: PCM-M1 New Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 17:03:17 -0600 Looking for a PCM-M1 with little use or new. I have a price for a new PCM-M1 but want to see if someone can contact me that has them at really low prices :) or if you can beat a price. Also, if anyone knows where to get them refurbished from an authorized Sony refurbisher or whatever you call it, please let me know. Email offline. Thanks! Brian ================== BWT: Bob Schneider (Lonelyland) (11-12-2001) at The Saxon Pub in Austin, TX Source: Sony MS907 (FOB)->SoundPro Bass Roll Off->D7 Conversion: D7->Audiophile 2496->Cool Edit Pro 1.2 (PIII 5000)->CDWave->WAVE->SHN Mastering: Wavelabs->FreeFilter->Waves Paragraphic Q6->MaxBass->L1 UltraMaximizer+ Sounds really good and captures the feel of Saxon Pub. If you want the raw DAT dump in SHN or the mastered in SHN, that is what is available. Make it known in your email. I can only trade on CD as data or audio, as I can't clone DATS. Good luck! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: William Draper Subject: AKG C1000 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:05:58 -0500 does akg sell these mics as matched pairs? i had someone tell me they didn't, and that's why the ones he was selling weren't matched. any help would be appreciated. wed ------------------------------ From: "spider john" Subject: 16 or 24bit when transfer from dat to hd? Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:41:42 -0500 i've recorded my first show and have transferred it to my hard drive. my = setup is sony d8>oade active cable>zoltrix nightengale pro 6 digicard. = i've searched the web and variolus faqs but couldn't find the answers to = some of my questions. when i'm going into the computer should i use 16bit or 24bit into = Soundforge? i'm guessing 16bit but i really have no idea. also, does = anyone know of a faq for going to cd from dat? etree's faq is very = general. lastly, any good places to go for more info on how to use = soundforge? i don't have an owners manual so i'm kinda learning on the = fly! thanks, jonathan ------------------------------ From: "Worbit 2001" Subject: Hello - Im New Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 20:08:10 -0800 hey everyone....i was on a Tori Amos bootleg list and they sent me here because im lookin' to upgrade my recording gear from a Mini Disc to a DAT. Can anyone point me in the right direction to where i can buy one? Also, is there a good model and a bad model? I live in San Diego, CA and i felt that i should upgrade me gear beucase none of the shows here are ever recorded onto DAT........ive been to TONS of shows too so i figured it was time to help the bootleg community. =) I have master recordings of the following bands, but they are on mini discs. Some sound REALLY good too: U2 - Live In Los Angeles 11/12/01 No Doubt - Live In Los Angeles 11/12/01 Depeche Mode - Live In Los Angeles 8/14/01 Depeche Mode - Live In Los Angeles 8/15/01 Billy Joel/Elton John - Live In Los Angeles 2/09/01 Travis - Live In Los Angeles 10/23/01 POE - Live In Los Angeles 8/14/01 POE - Live In Los Angeles 8/15/01 Nine Inch Nails - Live In San Diego 6/03/00 Duran Duran - Live In San Diego 8/24/00 The Cure - Live In San Diego 6/01/00 Tori Amos - Live In San Diego 11/20/01 (both shows) TOOL - Live In San Diego 10/31/01 Tricky - Live In San Diego 10/31/01 Depeche Mode - Live In San Diego 8/11/01 Staind - Live In San Diego 6/20/01 Cold - Live In San Diego 6/20/01 GODSMACK - Live In San Diego 7/20/01 (incomplete) ORGY - Live In San Diego 9/21/00 Depeche Mode - Live In Anaheim 8/18/01 Depeche Mode - Live In Anaheim 8/19/01 POE - Live In Anaheim 8/19/01 A Perfect Circle - Live In Irvine 2/06/01 so as u can tell, i cover a somewhat wide selection of music. I need to get a DAT that is easy to sneak into a venue. Most of the venues around here in San Diego are really lax with their sercurity. Right now im using the following to record shows: Sharp MD Core-Sound Bianurals with a Bass Roll-off box my shows come out really well too......but i just got some new U2 shows on CD that were from a DAT and i have fallen in love with the sound. =) I just recorded U2 in los angeles and i was on the floor.....my recording of that show has got to be one of the best recording i have done (nine inch nails & Travis top the list)I feel that if i had a DAT recorder, i would have had a killer recording. =( anyways, so yeah....im done tellin' u guys my life story. =P Can u guys give me any tips on gear? id like to keep the price down as low as possible (none of this $1400 set-ups) let me know ok? thanx!!! Keith PS. if u want to do some trading for any of the shows above.....just email me! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: sdt-9000 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:37:35 -0800 Kevin, all you need to do is find a drive with audio firmaware, and you're set to use it with vdat or dat2wav. but thats the hard part. 99% of the ones on ebay, they wont know what the firmware is. Odds are it is not the audio firmware, its rather uncommon There is no known way of upgrading the firmware at this time. there are some places that sell them new for $600, w/audio firmware. Then you at least know it will work. >From: "Kevin M. Flanagan" >Subject: Sony SDT-9000 for audio Howto? >Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:35:43 -0500 > >I've done some searching and it appears that this is the best of the drives >sold for computer backups to use for audio. It doesn't suck for backups >either, at least not at home. The info is kind of sketchy and scattered. >does anyone know of a single good source for info on making this do audio >extraction? ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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