DAT-heads Digest #139, Volume #6 Fri, 7 Dec 01 14:50:00 EST Contents: Re: Lineage ("Jeff Frank") Changing the header of a WAV file (Gordon Gidluck) search for Golden Earring shows (HAJO STEFFEN) ISO: Jeff Buckley Memphis '97 ("Michael Carl") Re:Changing the sample rate of a WAV file ("Jeroen Zuiderhoek") Anyone got this on DAT or CDR?? ("gordon wilson") Re: Please tape Sting on WPLJ NY tonight (f bion) Dregs!!! ("Floyd Bass") Starting up ("Bramcote") The Appleseed Cast/Get Up kids (Aleal5687@cs.com) Re: ISO SBM-1/preamp help ("Degrado, Rob") King Crimson on CD trade/B+P ("Karl L") Re: ISO SBM-1/preamp help ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.") Re: Changing the sample rate of a WAV file ("Otto, Michael") Ozzy 12/6 (Steve Novy) Does RBBS allow taping? (Stephen Pzynski) Source Info Request ("DRider") Size does not matter and Sony Speculation..... (David Taylor) KM184 v. EW SR77 / ISO either sets and an MP2 (TriscitMan@aol.com) ISO info about the Soundfield ST250 (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU) TEAC/CASIO batteries for sale (Bob Siegl) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Frank" Subject: Re: Lineage Reply-To: "Jeff Frank" Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:05:41 -0600 That has an impact on the life of the heads and transport, but nothing to do with the quality of the digital signal being recorded. I have an AD1K so I am perfectly content to run it into my old D8 until the next generation device arrives. From: "DRider" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I disagree. Sony D8 = 1/2 sized head Sony M1= 3/4 sized head Tascam DA-P1 = Full sized head ------------------------------ From: Gordon Gidluck Subject: Changing the header of a WAV file Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 23:16:17 -0600 Hi Mark, You can edit the file with a hex editor as mentioned by Wayne. Another option is to use my software (also mentioned in a previous thread). ScriptWriter will generate a new "empty" header for you with whatever sample rate you want. Then you can join the PCM samples from the other file to it. WAVscript actually does the process, but ScriptWriter will write the code for you. We do this all the time to speed up recordings, but you can slow them down too using this method. It does not resample, so if this is what you want maybe it would be a convenient way for you. Gordon > > From: Mark Mayhle > Subject: Changing the sample rate of a WAV file > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:14:01 -0600 (CST) > So, what I would like to do is take a 48KHz DAT recording of the cassette, > transfer it to a WAV file with my ZA2, and modify the WAV file to play > back at 44.1KHz, without any resampling at all. Just change the sample > rate in the WAV file header. How can I do this? Can it be done in > CE2000, or is there other software that will let me do it? I'd even > resort to using a hex editor if I knew what bits to flip. Any help much > appreciated! ------------------------------ From: Hajo.Steffen@t-online.de (HAJO STEFFEN) Subject: search for Golden Earring shows Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 06:35:45 +0100 Hi "DAT Heads" Does anyonyone out there have (a) show(s) of Renaissance (Annie Haslam)? If there is something in your archives - please let me know and letīs trade!!! Kind regards, HAJO http://home.t-online.de/home/hajo.steffen/booties.htm ------------------------------ From: "Michael Carl" Subject: ISO: Jeff Buckley Memphis '97 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 22:30:51 -0800 I'm desperately searching for any Jeff Buckley recordings from 1997 in Memphis, TN. As you may know, Jeff Buckley drowned in the Wolf River on May 29th, 1997, hours before he was set to record his 2nd full length album. So these recordings may be the only record of the new forms his songs took when he was practicing them at a tiny cafe called Barrister's a few days prior to his death. He played 10-12 low-key solo gigs in Memphis at Barrister's up until a few days prior to his passing. They may be the closest representation of the songs that would be included on his second album. So far no recordings have surfaced, it's almost tragic. Any info would be greatly greatly appreciated. thanks -mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Jeroen Zuiderhoek" Subject: Re:Changing the sample rate of a WAV file Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 01:24:33 -0600 Hi Mark, CE can do the trick. Use the option 'Adjust sample type' in stead of = 'Convert Sample type'. Here you can change the data in the WAV-header without any processing on the actual = samples. No need to go through hex-editing or something. :-) Good luck, JeroenZ >So, what I would like to do is take a 48KHz DAT recording of the = cassette, >transfer it to a WAV file with my ZA2, and modify the WAV file to play >back at 44.1KHz, without any resampling at all. Just change the sample >rate in the WAV file header. How can I do this? Can it be done in >CE2000, or is there other software that will let me do it? I'd even >resort to using a hex editor if I knew what bits to flip. Any help much >appreciated! >-=20 >Mark Mayhle ------------------------------ From: "gordon wilson" Subject: Anyone got this on DAT or CDR?? Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 03:04:09 -0500 12-97 Austin City Limits Tribute to Townes Van Zandt To Live Is To Fly (Guy Clark) / No Lonesome Tune (Peter Rowan & Nancy Griffith & Micky Raphael) / Ft. Worth Blues (Steve Earle) / Tecumseh Valley (Nancy Griffith & James Hooker) / Highway Kind (John T Van Zandt) / Pancho And Lefty (Willie Nelson & Nancy Griffith?) / If I Needed You (Emmylou Harris & Steve Earle) / Heavenly Houseboat Blues (Rodney Crowell & Emmylou Harris) / Lungs (Lyle Lovett & Steve Earle) / For The Sake Of The Song (Jack Cowboy Clemen & Clark & Earle & Rowan) / Don't You Take It Too Bad (Clark) / White Freight Liner (everyone) / ? (Townes Van Zandt) Gordon "Life's a garden...dig it" Joe Dirt ------------------------------ From: f bion Subject: Re: Please tape Sting on WPLJ NY tonight Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:21:53 GMT+1 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --=_NextPart_Caramail_0286831007716913_ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Headers, << Hi Folks, Stings concert at the Beacon Theatre in NY is being broadcast by WPLJ in NY starting at 8pm (Thurs 6th) and as I am going to the show, I will be unable to tape the broadcast, I think it may also be broadcast nationwide through some other afiliates, but I am not positive. >> I'm also interested in this show, thanks! And if anyone of you is taping any upcoming Sting show, just send a message. Cheers, Fran. ______________________________________________________ Bo=EEte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com --=_NextPart_Caramail_0286831007716913_ID-- ------------------------------ From: "Floyd Bass" Subject: Dregs!!! Reply-to: floyd@interaccess.com Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:59:35 -0600 for the love of god, did someone get their gear past security for the Dixie Dregs at HOB Chicago last night ?!?!? bwt: ft - Dixie Dregs @ Shank Hall, Milwaukee (12/5/01): DPA4061 > M1 (the opening act Greg Koch is worth having also) ------------------------------ From: "Bramcote" Subject: Starting up Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:07:48 -0000 Hello, I'm thinking of purchasing a DAT player, but specifically only to play music rather than to record live shows. I have used a minidisc system = before, but I disliked the way it was so fragile-like. I was wondering what would be the best DAT player/recorder to start up on. I don't really want anything complicated or expensive, although I will be = connecting it to my PC via analogue or TOSLINK, if possible :) Thanks for your time, -Kevin ------------------------------ From: Aleal5687@cs.com Subject: The Appleseed Cast/Get Up kids Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:22:30 EST If you are planning on taping the Get up Kids please get there early and tape the opening band The Appleseed Cast. Tourdates are below The Appleseed Cast DEC 07 - Lawrence, KS @ Liberty Hall, 644 Massachusetts (785) 749-1972, AA w/ Get Up Kids, The Anniversary DEC 08 - Madison, WI @ Barrymore Theatre, 2090 Atwood Avenue (608) 241-8864, AA w/ Get Up Kids DEC 09 - Detroit, MI @ Majestic Theatre, 4120 Woodward Avenue (313) 833-9700, AA w/ Get Up Kids DEC 10 - Pittsburgh, PA @ Club Laga, 3609 Forbes Avenue (412) 683-5363, AA, 6PM w/ Get Up Kids DEC 11 - Allentown, PA @ Crocodile Rock Cafe, 520 Hamilton Street (610) 434-4600, AA w/ Get Up Kids DEC 12 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Trocadero, 1003 Arch Street (215) 922-6888, AA, 7PM w/ Get Up Kids DEC 13 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Trocadero, 1003 Arch Street (215) 922-6888, AA, 7PM w/ Get Up Kids DEC 14 - Lackawanna (Buffalo), NY @ Sideshow Music Hall, 1830 Abbott Road (716) 821-9150, AA, 7PM w/ Get Up Kids DEC 15 - Worcester, MA @ The Pallidium, 261 Main Street (508) 797-9696, AA w/ Get Up Kids, Alkaline Trio DEC 16 - New York, NY @ Irving Plaza, 17 Irving Plaza - SOLD OUT - AA, 6PM w/ Get Up Kids, Alkaline Trio DEC 17 - Washington, DC @ 9:30 Club, 815 "V" Street NW (202) 265-0930, AA, 7:30PM w/ Get Up Kids Thanks in Advance Arnold ------------------------------ From: "Degrado, Rob" Subject: Re: ISO SBM-1/preamp help Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:34:16 -0800 You can go directly to Sony and backorder one (or two?) online but there $549.00! Didn't they use to go for around $400 new? I'm not sure if they're really worth that but you gotta love a decent A/D converter this small that you can power internally. Are there any other manufacturers that make something comparable as an SBM-1? I loved my AD2k+ but its 12volt (car)battery was a bit too much for me to lug around. Do folks use SBM-1s with DA-P1s? http://www.sonystyle.com/home/srch.jsp?query=sbm-1 ============================== > Having searched the product update digest and the sites of sbm-1 vendors, > are they still for sale somewhere? Can't seem to find them anywhere. Any > help would be greatly appreciated. I spoke with the folks at Sony at the recent AES convention. They have discontinued the entire consumer DAT product line (TCD-D8, TCD-D100, SBM-1), leaving only the pro PCM-M1 portable DAT recorder in production. All accessories (including cables) were considered consumer products and have also been discontinued. ------------------------------ From: "Karl L" Subject: King Crimson on CD trade/B+P Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:41:12 -0500 I've got a good sounding copy of King Crimson from a couple of nights ago from toronto along with the John Paul Jones opener recorded using an AT-825 > DA-P1 @48KHz. Great location and virtually no crowd noise. The transfer was done using the same DA-P1 > Audiophile 2496 > soundforge v5.0 > cdwave. This offer is for cd copies only (I'm a unidecker), either wav/shn discs. I've also got both acts shn'd at 48KHz in one big file each if anyone wants dics like that. I'm interested in getting other King Crimson and related stuff in return along with some more John Paul Jones maybe he fucking rocked. I will also do B+P's for 3 people if you can get your discs out asap. Peace Karl ------------------------------ From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." Subject: Re: ISO SBM-1/preamp help Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:55:26 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Degrado, Rob wrote: > You can go directly to Sony and backorder one (or two?) online but there > $549.00! Didn't they use to go for around $400 new? I'm not sure if they're > really worth that but you gotta love a decent A/D converter this small that > you can power internally. Are there any other manufacturers that make > something comparable as an SBM-1? I loved my AD2k+ but its 12volt > (car)battery was a bit too much for me to lug around. Do folks use SBM-1s > with DA-P1s? > > http://www.sonystyle.com/home/srch.jsp?query=sbm-1 > > ------------------------------ > > Having searched the product update digest and the sites of sbm-1 vendors, > > are they still for sale somewhere? Can't seem to find them anywhere. Any > > help would be greatly appreciated. > > I spoke with the folks at Sony at the recent AES convention. They have > discontinued the entire consumer DAT product line (TCD-D8, TCD-D100, > SBM-1), leaving only the pro PCM-M1 portable DAT recorder in production. > All accessories (including cables) were considered consumer products and > have also been discontinued. > I use an SBM-1 with a PCM-1 and with a Denon DTR-80P. I've heard that the A/D in the M1 is nearly the same as the SBM-1 and that would seem to be the case as I cannot tell a difference in quality with the kind of music I tape. Maybe I'll do an A/B comparison sometime by recording the same show with both. I can hear a difference with the Denon, so I guess the built-in A/D of the Denon is inferior. As for small, self-powered A/D's, I've heard the the Denecke/Zefiro AD-20 is a great pre/converter, but it is locked at 44.1K (probably not a big deal to most who transfer their stuff to CD anyway, but I can tell a difference between 44.1K and 48K and I listen to my stuff from DAT so 48K is the only way for me) and the volume knobs are next to inaccessable and separate (the SBM-1 has the R/L knobs separate, but mounted concentric so both levels can be adjusted at once). The Denecke looks more rugged and probably a bit more stealthable. -- Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. wayne@hoxnet.com http://www.hoxnet.com PGP Key ID 138BCEE1 ------------------------------ From: "Otto, Michael" Subject: Re: Changing the sample rate of a WAV file Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:59:57 -0500 I remember seeing that option in SoundForge 4.5. There was an option to change the sample rate of a WAV file without actually resampling it. It may have been under the Resample menu but I'm not sure. This would be much easier than a HEX edit. HTH ezrider ============================================= From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." Subject: Re: Changing the sample rate of a WAV file Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:00:22 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Mark Mayhle wrote: > I have a cassette that plays back too fast and too high in pitch. I have > a theory that it went through at least one digital generation before bein= g > recorded to cassette and somewhere along the way a tape recorded at > 44.1KHz accidentally got played back at 48KHz, thus speeding it up. If I > resample in CoolEdit 2000 by the same percentage of slowdown, it sounds > about right. > > So, what I would like to do is take a 48KHz DAT recording of the cassette= , > transfer it to a WAV file with my ZA2, and modify the WAV file to play > back at 44.1KHz, without any resampling at all. Just change the sample > rate in the WAV file header. How can I do this? Can it be done in > CE2000, or is there other software that will let me do it? I'd even > resort to using a hex editor if I knew what bits to flip. Any help much > appreciated! ------------------------------ From: Steve Novy Subject: Ozzy 12/6 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:24:08 -0500 Anybody get a copy of this show? (Ozzy Osbourne at the Allstate Arena, Rosemont, IL) Looking for a clean copy. Please contact me off line to work something out. Thanks in advance, Steve ------------------------------ From: Stephen Pzynski Subject: Does RBBS allow taping? Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:02:44 -0800 (PST) Anyone know the taping policy of Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise? I'll be seeing them in Minneapolis tonight and need to know ASAP. Copies to whomever helps me out. Thanks! Steve http://www.geocities.com/stejampzy/cdlist.htm ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: Source Info Request Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:28:28 -0500 Hey Now! I just got this tape: PHISH 11/17/97 All Denver, CO - McNichols Sports Arena A:D Nutter's Rig 1x90m The person that I got it from has no idea what rig Marc was running on this night..... I sent an email to Marc, but got no response..... Any help would be awesome! Thanx! D-Rider ------------------------------ From: David Taylor Subject: Size does not matter and Sony Speculation..... Reply-To: drtaylor@earthling.net Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:38:39 -0800 (PST) >> My pet peeve about lineage is this >> >> Mics>pre>AD converter>to model of DAT deck. >> >> Model of DAT deck is superfluous if an A to D converter is used. Once its digital, cept for bit errors, its all the same. Of course if the Deck is doing the AD then it makes big differerence. Hence the reason my source includes my deck du jour, I don't own a AD converter, yet. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I disagree. > Sony D8 = 1/2 sized head > Sony M1= 3/4 sized head > Tascam DA-P1 = Full sized head They all write in a compatible format and its digital. Size is just going to determine how long they last and how fast they become unreliable. If your saying that my recording will get better by cloning to a DA-P1, I am gunna scream. 16bit/48k is the same on any deck, or they would not work with each other. Comments on the demise of Sony products, well I have heard that the M1 has the same technology as the SBM-1 in regards to being a 20bit AD with 16 bit dither. So that means the SBM-1 is redundant in the Sony product line. I am experimenting with using the M1 in my rig over my P1. So far I am pretty happy with it. - dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: TriscitMan@aol.com Subject: KM184 v. EW SR77 / ISO either sets and an MP2 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:25:19 EST Hey Guys- I've been lurking around here for long enough. I need some help in selecting a new set of mics. I'm looking at either the Earthworks SR77's and the Neumann KM184's. I will be recording mainly acoustic shows but with the implied possibility of recording much more rockus shows. For me, I'd like a set of mics that sound great in small venues where I'm a lot closer than I would be at a place like a stadium. I'm talking small clubs and college shows. But...I'd also like a set of Mic's I can take to a stadium show and not be 30 feet from the stacks but still get a great tape. I have heard great things about the 77's, but at the same time, I've heard that the KM184's sound great with acoustic concerts. I'm only looking at those two sets of mics - After all of the tapes I've listened to, I'm honestly torn between these two. If anyone has a comparison tape in a stadium setting with these two mics, please let me know. A little side note - If anyone is trying to dump their 77's or 184's, I'd like to talk to ya. Also, I'm looking for a used MP2. Take it easy guys and thanks for any support! -Greg Triscitman@aol.com ------------------------------ From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU Subject: ISO info about the Soundfield ST250 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:16:05 -0800 (PST) Any users out there? I have some questions... thanks! -rand0m ------------------------------ From: Bob Siegl Subject: TEAC/CASIO batteries for sale Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:45:57 -0800 (PST) If anyone out there is still using the Teac DAP20, or the Casio deck of the same style, I have two internal batteries I am not using. They were stored completely discharged and should still be OK. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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