DAT-heads Digest #143, Volume #6 Tue, 11 Dec 01 10:50:01 EST Contents: Re: EgoSys Waveterminal 2498 (Dennis Bathory-Kitsz) ISO: WEEN 3/15/01 + WEEN B&P ("o'friley") ISO: NYC area taper for Stickman Jones Christmas concert ("Ragan Todd") r.e. airport security (Dan Gale) source info discussion ("Ryan McDaniel") re airport security ("Dave Stephens") Converting Real Player Files into CD or DVD Files ("J. Steven Svoboda") ISO Richard Thompson and Mecury Rev CDR trades ("Joe Reed") National Lampoon Radio Hour (Jeetneal@aol.com) Gear For Sale (SoPhast@aol.com) Edirol UA-3 and USB Digital I/O (SAlpert5@aol.com) closed headphones? ("Phunk1") Spare DATs for trade or B&P ("Anthony Mirabella") telluride bluegrass fest 2001 -- b&p or trade (Brian Licurse) RE: Converting Real Player Files into CD or DVD Files ("Warren Melnick") ISO: SBM-1 New or Used, Modified or Unmodified (Berryman LCpl Christopher R) Gov't Mule & JID DATs up for Trade.... (Wavy Davy D) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz Subject: Re: EgoSys Waveterminal 2498 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:14:50 -0500 At 02:50 PM 12/10/01 EST, David wrote: >I have an Egosys Waveterminal 2496 and a Soundblaster Live installed in my >computer. When I am transferring from DAT to my hard drive via the WT >digital in I am unable to monitor the sound. I do have the SB Live and WT >connected with an internal "cable" (Digital out to aux in). I think I have >all the correct software/system settings. >Anyone have an idea why I can't monitor? I would assume you are monitoring via WT2496 analog outputs. -- do you have "digital in" set on the WT2496 control panel in the "analog out mixer" box? (I use EWDM 1.31 control panel; beta 3.0 doesn't seem to work with 2 WT2496 cards, which I have.) Dennis http://kalvos.org/ ------------------------------ From: "o'friley" Subject: ISO: WEEN 3/15/01 + WEEN B&P Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:07:34 -0500 I am in search of The Ween show on 3/15/01 at the Avalon in Boston. Looking to get a copy of this show for a buddy of mine as a holiday gift as this was his birthday show. Please e-mail me if you can help me out !!!!! Ween B&P 5/12/00 and 5/13/00 don't have the source in front of me but they sound great ..... Send an e-mail to either 51200@mineralz.com or 51300@mineralz.com depending on which show you would rather have and I will take the first five to respond on each address. HAPPY AND SAFE HOLIDAYS TO ALL. -o'friley ------------------------------ From: "Ragan Todd" Subject: ISO: NYC area taper for Stickman Jones Christmas concert Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:09:58 NYC-based group Stickman Jones is performing a small Christmas concert in NYC on Saturday, December 15. If you would like to hear traditional Christmas music played on acoustic (mostly) instruments in a small setting, I will pay your way to this very limited attendance concert. Recording is ok with the band, but mic stands and bags of gear will probably get you to the back of the room. Plan on "authorized stealthing." Reservations are required, so contact me for more details if you are interested. Merry Christmas, Ragan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Dan Gale Subject: r.e. airport security Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:12:33 -0800 "Dave Stephens" wrote: i know this has been covered but things are a bit tighter now. just wondering what experiences people have had the last few weeks or so with gear and checkpoints. do they make you turn it all on or pull it out of the bag. mabye batteries raised eyebrows? i ask because im flying in feb with the gear and was looking to get an idea of what to expect. last question>> where did you put your stand? orafices don't count! carry on mabye? I flew down to Texas from Oakland CA in late October with a ton of gear - I put everything I could into my checked bag (i.e. extra cables, chargers, power strips etc.) but was obviously unwilling to check my mics, decks, pre-amp etc. I carried on a pelican case with my decks, pre-amp, SBM-1, Neumanns etc. in it and also carried on a backpack that had my two eco-charges, a video camera, a digital camera, and a bag full of cables and other stuff that would allow me to still tape if they were to lose my checked bag. As for my mic stand, I figured they wouldn't be cool with me carrying it on, so I bought a sturdy poster tube that was big enough to fit the stand inside and I wrapped the stand in a towel, shoved it inside, taped the tube up, put an address label with all my info on it and I checked it. Given the amount of gear I was carrying on, I fully expected the royal strip search treatment. I was initially hassled at the check-in counter in Oakland ( I got there two+ hours before departure to be safe) about the two carry-on bags, as they were saying I could only have one. I told them I was allowed to have a carry-on bag and a brief case and that the Pelican Case was my brief case...they grumbled a bit and then told me to take my chances at the gate, noting that if they said no up there then I'd have to bring it back and check it. This never became an issue. In Oakland at the security check, they amazingly sent my stuff right on through the x-ray machine and never asked to look at anything. Not the greatest sign of the state of airport security when I can carry six electronic gagits, two eco-charge batteries, and a ton of cables without even a question from security. None-the-less, I breezed right on through and other then having to show my ID about 4-5 times before getting on the plane, there were no hassles. On the return trip in San Antonio, the security did want to look at my stuff and sent me to a side table. There, a security guy swabbed everything and placed the swabs in a bomb detection machine. He pulled most everything out and asked a few questions but mostly just wanted to swab stuff and then sent me on my way. The end result for me was this - be prepared for a thorough looking-through of your stuff, as well as long lines everywhere and make sure to get there plenty early. Other then that, no problems. I brought copies of all the owners manuals for each piece of equipment to show what it is, in case the pre-amp or other unrecognizable gear wierded them out but it was a non issue for me. I did hear of other folks getting hassled with cables, with security saying you could tie someone up with them...basically, there's no specific set of rules - if a security person doesn't like the look of something, they could ask you to check it which will create a big time hassle. Be prepared and you won't likely have a lot of issues. ------------------------------ From: "Ryan McDaniel" Subject: source info discussion Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:22:22 -0800 I'd like to input that some of us are not keyed into all of the equip. out = there. It would be nice if I didn't have to track down the fact that a = certain mic can only operate with a certain capsule. For example, the = discontinued Nakamichi CM300 was used with 4 different capusles. You can = still get new (compatible) capsules from the OEM (Primo Mic in TX), and = they are used now as replacements. Shows recorded after the original = capsules were discontinued with have to note when they are using the new = stuff. When I trade a show to somebody, I'm not going to assume they know = everything about Nakamichi mics. I'm going to atleast give them the full = numbers for what they need to know. It's not that big a deal. Lots of shows don't get traded with the source info. This drives me = crazy. I think the easier it is to decipher the source info, the more = likely people are to pass it along. So my vote is to always include as = much info as possible. If it doesn't fit on your Jcard, pass a note along = so we humble know-nothings can keep source info that makes sense to us. Ryan ------------------------------ From: "Dave Stephens" Subject: re airport security Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:54:57 -0500 thanx all for the replies and ive got my winner on the btw. all information was most helpful and i will take all advice given. i cant wait to offer the tapes up when we get back. ds ------------------------------ From: "J. Steven Svoboda" Subject: Converting Real Player Files into CD or DVD Files Reply-To: "J. Steven Svoboda" Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:06:28 +1000 Is there any way to convert real player audio files into CD files? Is there any way to convert real player video files into DVD format (preferred) or into video CD format? Thanks! ------------------------------ From: "Joe Reed" Subject: ISO Richard Thompson and Mecury Rev CDR trades Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 02:53:59 Hi I would like to get my hands on some live Mercury rev and some more live Richard Thompson. For RT, I would love to get some nice 70s and 80s discs. I have some RT and alot of Costello to trade (among other things). thanks Joe http://phishhook.yi.org/lists/drzaius _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Jeetneal@aol.com Subject: National Lampoon Radio Hour Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:05:27 EST Does any one on the list know where I can get a copy of the National Lampoon Radio Hour Christmas Show. I have some of the others on cassette and would be willing to trade (Mad Vandal, California Show). It is almost Christmas can you help me out? Best Regards: Tim Neal ------------------------------ From: SoPhast@aol.com Subject: Gear For Sale Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:10:49 EST Well it's been a very long time since doing anything DAT related....so it's time to clean house...everything must go... 1) Sony D-8 includes AC adaptor,leather case, and hard shell carrying case..big enuff for tour :) About 250 hours on the heads..clean..no problems. Only ate one 60m tape from a Radio Shack in NY (Went to see Phish...forgot my blanks,paid 20 bucks a piece...ow) 2) 2 digi cables RK-DA10,RK-DA10 modified. One's the orange 7-pin from sony, the other is the $120 cable from Sonic Sense for in/out) 3) 1 Eco-charge Sigma Plus battery pack for running the Dat plus another D-8 or SBM-1 4) My pride and joy..pair of Microtech Geffel sms2000's w/m200 cardiod caps. I'll also throw in an assortment of mic cables of various lengths. 5) AT 8410 shock mounts (2) 6)AKG KM235 universal t-bars (I have 2 of them in case someone wants to piggy back yer rig) 7)Shure A27m vertical t-bar 8)Tascam DA-20mkII bought reconditioned demo from Tascam..used less than 30 hours in studio....It was about this time I switched to CDR. 9)This one is a bit off DAT...Mackie 1402 VLZ PRO..for though of you who know this mixer...it has the BEST sounding pre-amps..PERIOD! I only used it to record live in my local club...I even was able to burn straight to CD..I have the run of the club..I even get a table &power) 10)one black 15ft mic stand....been with me since the Clifford Ball...and out to the Gorge...sorry...I miss the boys... OK...so that's the lot...I'm up for any reasonable offers. I'll sell them piece by piece or in groups..whatever. I'm married...I'm old and lame..and I don't plan on touring for quite some time...but man what a ride it's been. Ryan Romeike E-mail me SoPhast@aol.com ------------------------------ From: SAlpert5@aol.com Subject: Edirol UA-3 and USB Digital I/O Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:40:31 EST I had read some items on this list regarding USB digital audio interfaces, in order to research the matter for myself. There was some discrepancy between some posts, but I believe that I can clarify them (thanks to Edirol) for the benefit of everyone who reads this list. Scott.C.Brown uses USB e-magic EMI 2|6 with i-book with no problem.... Kieth Bode talked about USB being "fine" but wanted to know about how to prove it is bit for bit... "Jesse" got a letter from Isaac Balloun, a Technical Support Representative at Edirol Corporation North America who confirmed that USB (1) is bad for digi-audio, that USB-2 would be fine (but Roland does not make such interface) and that Roland products are fine. Jesse says that's hogwash, since the speed capabilty of USB is sufficient. As you can see, they're "both" right... It is really a driver issue. Scott uses an i-Book, which you can well imagine uses different drivers than a PC. Well, I got several e-mails from Edirol regarding the matter when I investigated whether this was perhaps the unit for me (the UA-3).....which I have deemed for now that it is NOT. According to Edirol, it is MICROSOFT'S driver that is actually the problem. For all you DAT-Heads, here is the text of what Edirol wrote to me regarding this matter. Hopefully this will put to rest any of the questions. If anyone would like to respond to me, please do so directly to my e-mail address, since I do not have time to read each issue. There is more than one reply since I asked a few different questions. All their replies are here. From: Catherine Carey, Edirol Corporation One of the reasons that I love this job (even after six years), is that I learn something new every day. Here's the skinny on the digital transfer capabilities of the UA-3. You were quite correct that it is not a bit for bit transfer, and if the purpose of your transfer is preservation of the audio quality from your DAT, the loss of data is so insignificant that human ears won't decipher any difference. If however, you are transferring data that will eventually need to be encoded back to the original file, the UA-3 would not be suitable for your needs. I briefly mentioned the UA-5 to you when we spoke on the phone this afternoon. Although we can't confirm this now, there is a very good chance that because this is using a specific driver (written by Roland), there would be no bit loss in the digital transfer. The UA-3 and UA-30 both use the Microsoft USB audio driver. It is our estimation that it is the driver itself that interferes with the data transfer, thus having a better driver would be quite promising. Another option to explore would be using the Propagamma USB ASIO driver with the UA-3. Again, because this is not a generic driver, it would stand a better chance of capturing the data accurately than the Microsoft driver. This Propagamma driver is $50.00 however, and with the benefit of the additional ports on the UA-5, may I suggest you take a hard look at the Edirol UA-5. I look forward to hearing from you again with further questions when you have them. Best regards, Catherine Carey Edirol Corporation North America >>> From: Catherine Carey Sorry about the delayed response - we've been extremely busy. Because the UA-3, UA-30, UA-1A or UA-1D are all using the Microsoft USB audio driver - none of them will be capable of capturing bit for bit information. I seriously doubt that Microsoft cares about any bit loss as the original driver was to facilitate digital speakers hooked up through USB. Regarding the bit data capture of the UA-5, it is possible that we'll have further specifications that would include any bit loss data, but I most certainly wouldn't hold your breath. At this point in time, I would think that there will be no data loss. >>>>> From: Catherine Carey To my knowledge, we are not planning a firewire device, particularly with USB 2 (somewhat) around the corner. >>>>>>> Well, there ya have it. :) ------------------------------ From: "Phunk1" Subject: closed headphones? Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:30:50 -0500 I have a beautiful pair of open Sennheiser 580's, but I now have a loud roommate, so I would like to find a similar pair of closed ones...I'm also open to the idea of a more monitor-like model......I don't want to use an amp... any thoughts? ------------------------------ From: "Anthony Mirabella" Subject: Spare DATs for trade or B&P Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:25:18 -0500 I have the following tapes laying around and would like to get a trade or b&p for them. Tool 9/18/01 Toronoto, ON AT853>SPSB2>MS702>JB920>DTC-670 Family Values (Linkin Park, Staind, STP) 10/28/01 Buffalo, NY AT853>SPSB2>D7 They were returned on a trade, the person I traded with noted spots of d/n at 15:06 on the Tool tape and 5:37 on the FV tape. I have not been able to hear this on my D7, 670 or played through vDAT and my CTD8000. Just thought I'd make that clear though. Both are on 90m tapes and I would like the same in return for b&p or give me your list and we'll see about a trade. Preference will be given to those who promise to pass them on. ------------------------------ From: Brian Licurse Subject: telluride bluegrass fest 2001 -- b&p or trade Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:45:45 -0800 (PST) i've got two extra copies of these telluride '01 sets to offer. one copy is SHN and is on 7 cds, the other is audio and is on 9 cds. tony furtado comotion keller williams donna the buffalo boomchicks nickel creek railroad earth d traminsky chris thile neumann 184 ->mp2->adc20 ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Warren Melnick" Subject: RE: Converting Real Player Files into CD or DVD Files Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 06:17:03 -0500 See this site for all you ever want to know (and more) about MPEG video conversion: http://www.vcdhelp.com W =====Original Message===== From: J. Steven Svoboda [mailto:arc@post.harvard.edu] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:06 AM To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Subject: Converting Real Player Files into CD or DVD Files Is there any way to convert real player audio files into CD files? Is there any way to convert real player video files into DVD format (preferred) or into video CD format? Thanks! ------------------------------ From: Berryman LCpl Christopher R Subject: ISO: SBM-1 New or Used, Modified or Unmodified Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 06:46:39 -0500 Anyone have a SBM-1 they want to get rid of?? Looking for an SBM-1 of any sort. Thanks. Chris ------------------------------ From: Wavy Davy D Subject: Gov't Mule & JID DATs up for Trade.... Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:26:18 -0800 (PST) High Potency! Check this out! I transfered all these for me to cdr and all I want in return is 2 cdrs for each DAT! Heres the list and the source info for each tape,keep in mind these are all from the best possible source BAR NONE: GM:9-15-94 DSB + 11-9-95 DSB 90 meter maxell GM:94/TELSTAR,1ST RELEASE OUT-TAKES SBD/M>Digital with all of 3-27-96 DAUD as filler 90 Sony dg GM:11-30-94 SBD/M>Digital 90 KAO Gold GM:10-14-99 DAUD gefell m-210s 90 Quantegy GM:6-21-98 DAUD AKG 480s + all Dylan 5-19-98 same mics 90 unlabled GM:10-30-98 DAUD all + Mountain 6-21-71 SBD/M>Digital 90 Sony dg GM:1-25-95 DSB 124 Pro Panasonic GM:12-1-94 DAUD AKG 481s 90 hs maxell GM:9-23-94 all DSB + 12-31-94 DAUD Maxell hs Heres a RARE 1:ALLEN WOODY 5-19-92 SBD/M>D + OKB 6-25-97 DAUD W/Matt Abts for the entire set!!! 90 meter maxell JID:11-10-98 DSB unlabled 90 meter JID:5-13-98 DAUD 2x 60 MAX JID:4-25-98 DAUD Max 60 JID:6-19-98 DSB KAO Gold 90 JID:5-2-99 DAUD Neumann km84i Sony dg 90 JID:8-3-99 DAUD DSB Sony dg 90 JID:4-2-99 DAUD Senn Me 40's This is it till the end of the year cause the fucking post office lines are so long! Anyone interested in all of these in 1 quick swap send me your list! Have a wonderful Day __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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