DAT-heads Digest #148, Volume #6 Sun, 16 Dec 01 04:50:00 EST Contents: Still ISO SCI 11-9-01 Athens, GA (barren) Mike Newbie asks (-bob) ISO: Cranberries European tapers ("Bas Ruesink") RE:Warren X-Mas Jam Set Times ("tim fraley") VH1 Concert for NY extra CDs for trade (Beast914@aol.com) Plextor 16X CD-RW $100 AR (Mark Mayhle) forsale: Adcom AC enhancer and JVC dual-well record cassette deck (Jesse Lackey) re: re: Latino/Mexican music. (michael ryan) HUGE DAT B&P - Entire Collection Up For Grabs! ("Dave Pecoraro") extra P&F 10/14/00 on DATs for B+P ("Dan Greenberg") Taping rig for sale... (Hugh Price) DAT recording, digital transfer - 2 questions ("Marc Macauley") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barren Subject: Still ISO SCI 11-9-01 Athens, GA Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 06:58:47 -0500 Hey All, I would sure like to make a dat trade for either an fob or tapers section copy of this show. If any of you taping w/ Robert get this I would especially like to hear what you got since I was close by, helping to ward off stray balloons (yea, one got through). Take care and happy holidays. Later, John ------------------------------ From: -bob Subject: Mike Newbie asks Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 06:17:10 -0800 (PST) What exactly do I need to use with MBHO 603s to feed an AD2K or AD1000? "Active cables?" Preamp body? Are "active cables" a substitute for the preamp? Is it better to have the preamp at the head-end? Would it be bad if I ran, say, 20-30 feet of "passive" cable down to a pre-amp box, like a Lunatec V-2, then off to the A/D? Lastly, how much do I gain by having an outboard D/A and a D-8 as compared with direct analog into a Tascam DA-P1 ? (Machine reliabilty, age, and head-size aside) I just mean audio quality of these two the D/A s. Thanks. -Bob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Bas Ruesink" Subject: ISO: Cranberries European tapers Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:18:44 +0100 Looking for Cranberries recent shows and tapers for the upcoming Euro shows. Euroshowlisting can be found here: http://www.cranberries.ie/nonflash/live/02.html Please contact me if you have plans to tape them. I will tape in Amsterdam, The Netherlands (MD+OKMIIRS) Bas List at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/1620 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "tim fraley" Subject: RE:Warren X-Mas Jam Set Times Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:13:38 -0500 From: "DRider" Subject: Warren Chritmas Jam Set Times Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:58:01 -0500 Hey Now! I have seen the setlist for last year's Warren Haynes Christmas Jam. I could not make it last year, but I will be there this year. I was expecting an early start time to accommodate all the musicians, but the ticket says 7:00 PM Could someone who attended (taped) last year send me a note w/ the set times? I am still fulfilling BWT's from last week and this week. So.. you'll just have to go on faith. Thanx! D-Rider Hey D-Rider, last year the tickets said 7 and it means 7, the show starts exactly on time, also last year there were no real set breaks, usually while one bands equipment was being moved of the stage, a solo or duo would come out and play a few songs, the show last year lasted till about 1, so be prepared, it is one of the best nites of music you'll see, Tim "There comes a time, When you got to let the monster inside you Let him come on out, come on out and play" _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Beast914@aol.com Subject: VH1 Concert for NY extra CDs for trade Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:53:02 EST I have four extra 3-CD sets of the VH1 concert for NYC. This is a rather good off-air recording of the concert with EVERY musical performance included in their entirety. Some good banter was retained as well. Im looking for trades or B&P. Thanks. D ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: Plextor 16X CD-RW $100 AR Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 14:02:01 -0600 (CST) For the person looking for a good internal CD-RW, check here for a Plextor 16X at $129.95, minus a $30 rebate, with free shipping. I don't have any connection to buy.com; just a good product at a good price. Note that this is a retail box product; OEM version does NOT qualify for rebate. http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10272854 -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: Jesse Lackey Subject: forsale: Adcom AC enhancer and JVC dual-well record cassette deck Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:10:52 -0500 Both are in excellent / mint condition. Manuals included. $65 each, firm, plus shipping (from new york city) or you can pick it up. Details: JVC TD-W709 cassette deck: http://www.lightlink.com/jesse/forsale/JVC_W709_Cassette_deck_for_sale.html Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer: http://www.lightlink.com/jesse/forsale/Adcom_ACE-515_AC_Enhancer_for_sale.html Thanks Jesse ------------------------------ From: michael ryan Subject: re: re: Latino/Mexican music. Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:56:14 -0800 (PST) Hey Now All! Sean! Thank you for your link to some fine live shows of several of the finest artits around. I am picking up a couple of the discs as I recommend other people do . I am still looking for more live shows. Anybody have a clean copy Ov Los Lobos in '91 at the Strawberry Music fest? Great tour and it was mostly traditional music of Mexico and other 'latin' countries. Some of you Texas tapers have to have a little something in your collections. I have spent time in Austin on several occasions and that wonderful City ( a little bit of Heaven in the middle of Hell ) has several places to go and see music. It's very much like Memphis , New Orleans and other such cities where you can just stroll down a street and be pulled into a club by music flaoting out of it and see some players you have never heard of putting out some very kick ass music. So if anybody has any of this type of music on tape I would love to trade. Thank You , Michael B/W tax Riders in the Sky , 12/12/01 DSBD to the first two from each time zone. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Dave Pecoraro" Subject: HUGE DAT B&P - Entire Collection Up For Grabs! Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:08:50 -0500 Apologies for the cross-post... List is here: http://home.attbi.com/~davepeck79/DATLIST.TXT Info follows: Ok folks, it's time for me to say goodbye to the DAT world. With that, I'm offering up my entire collection for b&p. There are 262 tapes all together, which I've broken down into batches of 12 (except for the last batch, which is 10). Because there is no way for me to listen to every single tape and make sure everything is ok with it, I am only asking for 10 blanks in return for each batch of 12 tapes. I will be selling the blanks after this process is complete, as it wouldn't be exactly legal for me to sell them with music on them. The tapes are a variety of different brands, but MOSTLY Sony DGP and Maxell HS4 computer grade tapes. There are, however, a few professional audio grade tapes in here (Apogee, Panasonic). Please note: I will ONLY accept UNOPENED Sony DGP and Maxell HS4 tapes in this trade. The blanks I ask for in return for each batch is noted next to each batch number. ***I WILL NOT BREAK UP THE BATCHES; PLEASE DON'T ASK*** I spent a LOT of time putting these tapes and this list together today, so the tapes are to stay in their batches. The first 15+ batches are Phish, with a wide variety of bands covering the rest. If you're interested in any batches, please email me at davepeck79@attbi.com. I will be asking for $4.50 to ship each batch - I will pack them and ship them via USPS Priority Mail. **If there is anyone out there who wants the ENTIRE collection, **I will let it go in exchange for 200 blanks (125 x 90m, **75 x 60m)! go easy... <> Dave Pecoraro ~ Devo ~ Dave Peck <> davepeck79@attbi.com <> DVD LIST: <> http://www.dvdtracker.com/~davepeck <> AOL IM: mkdevo ------------------------------ From: "Dan Greenberg" Subject: extra P&F 10/14/00 on DATs for B+P Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:02:37 -0500 This is for the Phil Lesh & Friends at the Beacon Theatre, NYC on 10/14/00. It was recorded w/ DPA 4023 mics from the taping section in back of the orchestra and is on two Sony 90m DATs (one per set). In return, I'd like two sealed Sony or Maxell 90m DATs plus postage. First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets it (unless you're willing to do B+P's for others, which I would give preference to...in which case tell me how many you're willing to make). -Dan- ------------------------------ From: Hugh Price Subject: Taping rig for sale... Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 19:13:18 -0500 Teac DP-20 Dat Deck with low head hours. Never used for cloning. Complete transport refurbish by Digital Audio. Akg C-522 ENG stereo cardioid mic with adjustable field width (+/- 45 degrees divided by 90)and vibration-free mount and windscreen. Case. 1000$ for this stealth-usable rig. ------------------------------ From: "Marc Macauley" Subject: DAT recording, digital transfer - 2 questions Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:42:20 -0800 Hello, I am very much a DAT "newbie", having just got my first and only DAT recorder - a Sony PCM-M1 - the other day. A few weeks ago, I bought a used Neumann TLM-103 mic to use with the DAT recorder. I am a composer and interested in experimenting with electronic music, so I planned to use the DAT & mic to take all sorts of samples - of various sounds, not necesssarily music; tapping, clicking, ringing, chirping, a variety of different sounds - and then transfer (digitally) to my computer, where I could process, edit, manipulate the sounds, using Pro Tools FREE and, if necessary, other software. Two things have come up - the first is a very basic question, but I have very little familiarity with the recording process, so please excuse my ignorance. I have tried recording some relatively soft sounds (e.g. knocking, tapping on wood), with very little success - I find that with the recording level all the way up (and the switch set to "manual" in the back), and with "mic att" at 0 dB (as opposed to 20 dB, which I think is designed for loud sounds), and with the microphone less than an inch from (and facing) the sound source, when I play back what I have recorded, the sounds I have recorded are ver soft, relative to the white noise that results from turning the volume up (which I have to do in order to hear it). Indeed, the "-dB" levels that display on the unit while recording rarely get past about 30; the instruction manual recommends adjusting the recording level so that it averages about 12. I even tried recording some piano music on my 6-ft Kawai grand piano, with the microphone placed inches from the sound board, and even then, if I play as loud as I can, I can hardly get it past 12, and when I play it back, there is far too much white noise relative to the recorded sounds. Right now, my setup consists of this: the Neumann TLM-103 microphone (only one), connected to a portable (9-volt battery-powered) phantom power box with 2 input and 2 output XLR jacks (I'm only using one input & its corresponding output), connected (via the Hosa XVM-249 cable - XLR [female] to right angle stereo 3.5mm plug) my Sony PCM-M1's mic/line-in jack (set to mic), powered by the included rechargeable batteries(charged), though I also tried it with the AC adaptor (same result). I don't think the problem is with the microphone - the people at the store where I bought it (American Music) tried it out and said it worked fine. When I was shopping online for a DAT recorder, I saw mention here and there of preamps, without really knowing what they were or paying much attention to it; the salesman at American Music said I only needed a phantom power box to power the microphone. However, twice I have used my school's recording equipment (pair of microphones, mixer, and most recently a CD recorder) to record cello & piano music, and there was no problem - little if any white noise, great (and amply loud) sound, etc. What I'm wondering is this: do I need (or would it help to have) a preamp, or something besides the phantom power box, in between the microphone and the DAT recorder, to amplify the signal from the microphone? If so, what would this be (a preamp? a tiny mixer?) and what could I get that's cheap (hopefully, without sacrificing sound quality) and portable (i.e. that could be used away from an electrical outlet)? Here's my other question: After I make a recording, I would like to transfer it from the DAT recorder to my computer. I have a SoundBlaster Live Platinum Soundcard (including the LiveDrive in front), which has the standard assortment of 3.5 mm jacks (line in/out, etc.), two larger jacks (one for headphones, one for microphone), and S/PDIF in & out jacks. I understand that my S/PDIF jacks, being round, are coaxial, not optical (correct me if I'm wrong). The salesman at Oade Brothers (from whom I bought the DAT recorder) said that I could do an analog transfer with a $25 cable, but that wouldn't come out sounding very well (lots of added background noise) because of the high RF environment in my computer, or I could do a digital transfer from the Sony's 7-pin jack to the coaxial S/PDIF jack in my computer, using a $175 cable that Oade Brothers makes specially and isn't available anywhere else. Firstly, is there any way I could do a digital transfer from my Sony PCM-M1 to my computer, given the equipment I have, for less than $175? If not, are there soundcards (or other interfaces) available for around $200, more or less, that have *optical* S/PDIF jacks (which I understand will connect to the PCM-M1 with a $25 cable), so that it might cost a little more now, but be better in the long run? In case any of you are familiar with DAT recording and interfaces in general but not with the PCM-M1 specifically, it has these four jacks: remote/headphones (3.5mm), line out (3.5mm), mic/line in (3.5mm), and remote/digital I/O (7-pin). Sorry to make this such a long message. Thanks a lot for any replies! 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