DAT-heads Digest #150
Contents:
Fostex D5's are back! ("Gary Davis")
Latino/Mexican music. ("K.A. Long")
SBM- and all. (Spyro Bouras)
For Sale TCD-8 (Spyro Bouras)
Zoltrix Problems (Drew Caruso)
ISO: Natalie Merchant, recent recordings ("Marc Jacobson")
my friend is looking to trade and cant post - reply to HIM (Bob Siegl)
WARREN ZEVON GROVEL (john.clarke@saltlake2002.com)
Just in case: Neil Diamond for trade 12.06.01 ("Ryan McDaniel")
Stereo mic for sale... (Hugh Price)
Sheryl Crow 'Unplugged' 12/14/01 performance ("Thomas Avallone")
Sheryl Crow Cape Girardeau 2001 ("Thomas Avallone")
588 Rule (when editing files on a computer, intended for a CD-r) (SAlpert5@aol.com)
sony 7 pin cable questions (William Draper)
sharp rx-p1 or panasonic sv-255 (William Draper)
ISO: Haynes X-mas Jam tix in Asheville this Fri ("Jacob Jordan")
GD Unbroken Chain Show (Jonathan Lerman)
Midiman/M-Audio DiO 2448 soundcard ("Marc Macauley")
DESPERATE ISO: Phish 7.21.99 and 9.15.00 ("mrcool")
Looking for Reba McIntyre on A&E's "Live by Request" (Nadyne Mielke)
SBM-1 A to D quality vs other implementations (Mike Perkins)
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Fostex D5's are back!
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 04:49:20 -0800
Just in from Japan, a very limited number of brand new Fostex D5
pro studio DAT machines! These aren't refurbs but brand new with
full Fostex warantee. And the DAT Store price is still just $594.
Don't wait till DAT machines are impossible to get; buy a spare
today!
The DAT Store (310) 828-6487 11am-5pm Mon-Fri Pacific Time
or email: gdavis@loop.com for more info
thank you,
--Gary
From: "K.A. Long" <klong@UBmail.ubalt.edu>
Subject: Latino/Mexican music.
Reply-to: klong@UBmail.ubalt.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:10:21 -0500
I wanted jump in and recommend Ozomatli. They might be more
'rap' oriented than some of the groups mentioned before but not
overly so and very positive. Great dance music. I believe they
also allow taping so you might be able to trade for shows. I
haven't had the good fortune to see them live.
klong
From: Spyro Bouras <spyro@senet.com.au>
Subject: SBM- and all.
Reply-To: spyro@senet.com.au
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:47:53 +1030
Hi folks.
,
Well I have certainly been inundated with enquiries about the SBM-1.
Details as follows;
3 units are expected to arrive mid-late Jan 2002.
My local Sony centre will reserve them with a cash deposit only.
Cables;
7 pins to toslink availible
7pin to miniplug/toslink availible.
7 pin to coax - not currently availible
Please e-mail me for details.
Spyro
From: Spyro Bouras <spyro@senet.com.au>
Subject: For Sale TCD-8
Reply-To: spyro@senet.com.au
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:50:14 +1030
Sony TCD-8 for sale..
small hours..about 9 shows recorded with it.
Perfect condition.
Comes with RM3 DK remote kit for digital in/out and remote control
function.Only thing missing is box for D-8,all other bits there.
I have upgraded to D-100 so it needs to go.
Spyro
From: Drew Caruso <drewc.atc@verizon.net>
Subject: Zoltrix Problems
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:54:38 -0500
Hi all, I have been having some problems with my Zoltrix Nightingale pro
6 card. I was having a static problem to begin with, so I uninstalled
the card then removed it re boot ant the inserted the card again and
reinsaleed it. Thanks may have solved that problem. Before this though
I was able to pass the siganl via spdif out back to a sony M1, but the
deck wouldn't accept it due to "copy protection". Now I can't evenclick
the enable spdif out to let it send the signal back out. Can anyone
help?
Drew
From: "Marc Jacobson" <marcj421@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Natalie Merchant, recent recordings
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:35:44 -0500
Hi All,
I'm trying to track down any good sounding recordings from Natalie's current
tour. I have 5 or 6 shows from the '93-'95 era (solo Natalie and 10,000
Maniacs) to trade. They all sound very good.
I have a bunch of other stuff (non-Natalie) to trade, as well.
I'm always glad to put together a b&p.
Thanks!
Marc
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From: Bob Siegl <bobsiegl@yahoo.com>
Subject: my friend is looking to trade and cant post - reply to HIM
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:52:12 -0800 (PST)
Hi there guys & gals....I am on the hunt for some new
trading partners. Let me tell you a little bit about
me. I've been actively trading off and on now for
about 27 years....first on reels....then on
cassettes.....then dats....and now cdr's. I do not
have the ability to record shows live (I leave that up
to my friends....and they do an excellent job). I do
however trade with a few select group of individuals
who have personal relationships with club owners &
sound engineers. and my collection is a reflection of
those contacts. Many of the entries on my list will
be new to you. A good percentage of these never
released shows started with me, or my inner circle off
friends.....which brings me to what I am looking for.
I am hopeful that I can find others out there who have
the same type of contacts, and can trade superior
quality soundboard recordings of many different
artists & groups. My tastes are varied.....you will
see that by looking at my list. I do not have a web
site....all my shows are on an easy to understand xl
spreadsheet.
If you are interested in establishing a trading
relationship based on the information I have just
shared with you, I would really like to hear from you.
If you have a web site or attachable list, and you
have rare uncirculated shows, send it on over. Lets
have some fun.
My e-mail address is: Ralphspoilsport@aol.com
Thanks,
Mitchell
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From: john.clarke@saltlake2002.com
Subject: WARREN ZEVON GROVEL
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:26:55 -0700
ISO: WARREN ZEVON
Big grovel for some live Warren Zevon (CD or DAT). If anyone can help me
out, please e-mail me. Much appreciated. Happy Holidays.
John Clarke Jr.
Senior Writer
Tel: (801) 212-2395
Mobile: (435) 714-1459
From: "Ryan McDaniel" <Rmd@deainc.com>
Subject: Just in case: Neil Diamond for trade 12.06.01
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:59:36 -0800
Sean Dickson modified Sony MDR-24s > Sony TCD-D8 > a > Sound Forge > CDR
Check this out for Xmas present to grandma or just to see what this little =
rig pullled off at the Key Arena (Seattle's own aircraft hangar)
rmd@deainc.com
From: Hugh Price <hprice61@home.com>
Subject: Stereo mic for sale...
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:01:06 -0500
Akg C-522 ENG stereo cardioid mic with adjustable field width (+/- 45
degrees divided by 90) and vibration-free mount and windscreen. Case.
Internal rechargeable battery. 625$ includes shipping.
From: "Thomas Avallone" <tav2367@msn.com>
Subject: Sheryl Crow 'Unplugged' 12/14/01 performance
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:08:41 +0000
I made the trip to Cape Girardeau, Missouri to attend the Sheryl Crow
Unplugged benefit concert from this past Friday - and wound up with a SUPER
recording.
SSdsm/6L > MOD2 > D100 > SBLive Platnum > wav > cdr
At this time, I am only looking for shows from the following artists that I
don't have:
* SHERYL CROW
* PJ HARVEY
* GARBAGE (2001 European shows)
* U2 (selected 3rd leg Elevation shows ONLY)
Here is the setlist from the performance:
A Change (Would Do You Good)
My Favorite Mistake
Leaving Las Vegas
If It Makes You Happy
The Weather Channel
Riverwide
Can't Cry Anymore
Strong Enough
Hard Rain ( By Bob Dylan )
Abilene
Hard To Make A Stand (snippet)
Mississippi
All I Wanna Do
Everyday Is A Winding Road
encore:
Here Comes The Sun
I Want You To Want Me
This is a 2 cdr, 85 minute performance.
AND of course: I will accept DAT recordings for trade, but I can only supply
you with CDR...sorry.
Tom
"I've heard there's joy untold
Lays open like a road
In front of me"
~ PJ Harvey
http://www.tav2367.20m.com/
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From: "Thomas Avallone" <tav2367@msn.com>
Subject: Sheryl Crow Cape Girardeau 2001
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:17:26 +0000
Sorry for the 2nd posting, but I will also accept any CHRIS CORNELL
recordings I need as well.....ESPECIALLY the show in PORTLAND from 2000.
Tom
http://www.tav2367.20m.com/
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From: SAlpert5@aol.com
Subject: 588 Rule (when editing files on a computer, intended for a CD-r)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:34:22 EST
To answer question in Dat Heads 146 from Marc Pfisterer:
Because CD Audio discs are laid out as "sectors" that are each 1/75 of a
second (75 sectors per second), a sector must be complete before the next one
begins. And track changes only happen on a sector change.
If you do the math, at 44,100 samples per second for "CD Audio", and divide
that by 75 (sectors per second), the result is 588 samples (per sector).
If you use Sound Forge and click on the "options" drop-down menu, and click
on "status format", select "samples" instead of time. This will give you a
readout in the bottom right of your audio file edit window in samples, which
you can divide by 588 with a calculator to confirm that you are conforming to
the "588 rule" as I like to call it.
If I am editing a large piece down, I use the "markers" function to enter the
beginning and end of a track that I want to become a wave file. You can
easily place a marker by pressing the "M" key on the keyboard while the track
is playing. Afterwards, I double-click on the area between the markers for
each "track" to determine the duration of that marked track, in samples.
I then divide by 588 (with a calculator), and move the marker at the end of
the marked section by the appropriate number of samples (to the left, or
earlier) as indicated by the division remainder. To do this, you can do a
right-click on the marker, and select "edit" and edit the location number
(and description) to the new location (subtracting the necessary amount - the
previous remainder - from the location). If you work in a forward order, you
will make it through your entire piece with no ripple problems.
Then when you are completed with a "track", simply double click (to
highlight) the marked section, and drag it to the desktop of Sound Forge, and
a new file will be created that is solely the length of the conforming wav
file. Save that as the track you need. Then continue forward. Always only
move the "out" marker of a track if you are operating in the forward
direction. The "in" has been determined by your previous "out" of the
preceeding track.
An alternative to this laborious process is a freeware program called
"CDwav.exe" which automatically breaks down files to sector-legal values. In
practice, you have to fix the results a little in terms of re-connecting
files that overly broke apart, but at least each segment is "588-legal" so no
calculator or math is required. This program is probably still available on
the web, if you do a search for it on a search engine.
Have fun!
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To answer question in Dat Heads 146 from Marc Pfisterer:
Because CD Audio discs are laid out as "sectors" that are each 1/75 of a second (75 sectors per second), a sector must be complete before the next one begins. And track changes only happen on a sector change.
If you do the math, at 44,100 samples per second for "CD Audio", and divide that by 75 (sectors per second), the result is 588 samples (per sector).
If you use Sound Forge and click on the "options" drop-down menu, and click on "status format", select "samples" instead of time. This will give you a readout in the bottom right of your audio file edit window in samples, which you can divide by 588 with a calculator to confirm that you are conforming to the "588 rule" as I like to call it.
If I am editing a large piece down, I use the "markers" function to enter the beginning and end of a track that I want to become a wave file. You can easily place a marker by pressing the "M" key on the keyboard while the track is playing. Afterwards, I double-click on the area between the markers for each "track" to determine the duration of that marked track, in samples.
I then divide by 588 (with a calculator), and move the marker at the end of the marked section by the appropriate number of samples (to the left, or earlier) as indicated by the division remainder. To do this, you can do a right-click on the marker, and select "edit" and edit the location number (and description) to the new location (subtracting the necessary amount - the previous remainder - from the location). If you work in a forward order, you will make it through your entire piece with no ripple problems.
Then when you are completed with a "track", simply double click (to highlight) the marked section, and drag it to the desktop of Sound Forge, and a new file will be created that is solely the length of the conforming wav file. Save that as the track you need. Then continue forward. Always only move the "out" marker of a track if you are operating in the forward direction. The "in" has been determined by your previous "out" of the preceeding track.
An alternative to this laborious process is a freeware program called "CDwav.exe" which automatically breaks down files to sector-legal values. In practice, you have to fix the results a little in terms of re-connecting files that overly broke apart, but at least each segment is "588-legal" so no calculator or math is required. This program is probably still available on the web, if you do a search for it on a search engine.
Have fun!
From: William Draper <wdraper@expressionanalysis.com>
Subject: sony 7 pin cable questions
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:57:24 -0500
am getting ready to join the crowd and get a sony portable dat. i am going
to use a dencke ad-20/zefiro inbox to send the signal. i have a few
questions. some one told me the d7 cannot record at 44.1, is that correct?
also, what is the difference bewteen an active and passive 7-pin adapter?
which would i need to get the signal from the ad-20? thanks.
wed
From: William Draper <wdraper@expressionanalysis.com>
Subject: sharp rx-p1 or panasonic sv-255
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:34:30 -0500
is anyone familiar with these portable dats? if so, could you drop me a
line?
wed
From: "Jacob Jordan" <jordanjacob@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Haynes X-mas Jam tix in Asheville this Fri
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:37:42 -0500
ssia
BWT: SCI 11-8-01 B&P (Cd or dat)
Sorry for the cross post, thanks for the spa e,
Jacob
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From: BabyPrite@webtv.net (Jonathan Lerman)
Subject: GD Unbroken Chain Show
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:16:38 -0500 (EST)
Seeking an un-cut, great quality, complete show DSBD of any Dead show
during which Unbroken Chain was played, except for their last show.
Some nice shows to swap, or B+P.
Thanks, Jon
From: "Marc Macauley" <op132@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Midiman/M-Audio DiO 2448 soundcard
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:38:25 -0800
Hey all,
Thanks to everyone who replied to my last post.
As far as a digital transfer from my Sony PCM-M1 to my computer, I found the
Midiman/M-Audio DiO 2448 soundcard, with coaxial and optical S/PDIF inputs &
outputs, retail $150, $100 at Zzounds.com. Has anyone had any experience
with this card, and/or have any suggestions, recommendations, etc.?
It seems to me I could buy this for $100, but then I would still need a
cable to connect the PCM-M1 (7-pin) to the S/PDIF. I was under the
impression I could buy a $25 cable from Oade that would connect from the
7-pin to an optical S/PDIF, but I suspect I was mistaken about this, because
I can't find anything like that now. If I want digital output from the
PCM-M1, and I don't want to risk damaging the machine with the Core Sounds
7-pin cables, is there any (cheaper) alternative to the $75 Sony cables
(POC-DA12 series)? If not, I'm still not clear as to which cable is which.
I've got the diagrams in my PCM-M1 operating instructions booklet (p.54),
but I guess this is what I don't understand: What is the difference between
"optical (digital) line input/output" and "optical input/output"? Are the
S/PDIF jacks in the DiO 2448 of the latter variety? If so, it seems it would
interface with the POC-DA12P and POC-DA12MP cables - is this correct?
Thanks,
Marc
From: "mrcool" <mrcool@fast.net>
Subject: DESPERATE ISO: Phish 7.21.99 and 9.15.00
Reply-to: mrcool@fast.net
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:55:57 -0500
I'm desperately looking for these two shows! I've never seen
them circulate long enough for me to get and I was at
both... the 1999 show was one of the best I've ever been to!
I'm actively seeking all of the following and will reward
those who can help me =) :
Phish
7.21.99 (hopefully schoeps FOB)
12.10.99 (u89)
12.11.99 (u89)
9.15.00 (B+K 4022 FOB)
Soulive
4.20.01 (any source!)
Please help, if you can!
List can be found at www.jordanshapiro.net. Thank you
DAT-Heads and happy holidays!
Jordan
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From: Nadyne Mielke <nadyne@rmta.org>
Subject: Looking for Reba McIntyre on A&E's "Live by Request"
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:44:59 -0800
I'm looking for a copy, either CD-R or video, of Reba McIntyre's
performance on A&E's "Live by Request".
I don't have any Reba to trade (this is a gift for my mom), but will
be happy to trade anything else from my list (mostly Tori Amos,
Cowboy Junkies, and a few others), or do a B&P. You can check out my
list at:
http://www.mindspring.com/~mielke/Nadyne/
Thanks, y'all. :)
/nm
BWT: I'll do a B&P of any CD-R show on my list for the first five people to
contact me. :)
From: Mike Perkins <mperkins@telus.net>
Subject: SBM-1 A to D quality vs other implementations
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:45:13 -0800
Dear Dat-Heads:
Recent contributions to the list have touched upon the SBM-1 A to D module,
and clearly there are those among us who are using the little critter as a
front end to their actual DAT recorder. I note that my Sony D8 literature
sings the praises of this add-on front end for the D8, perhaps somebody
could tell us what PERCEIVED and ACTUAL audio quality improvement results
from this equipment configuration - and is it worth the significant handful
of Ben Franklin souvenir engravings that are entailed in its purchase.
Further of interest, what specifically are the modifications that certain
illustrious third parties are making to this revered Sony device.
Closely related to my inquisitive position is a question regarding the
equipment configuration I have been using to dub my favorite LPs onto CD.
For this purpose I feed the audio line outputs of my Onkyo tuner/amplifier
which serves as the pre-amp for my turntable into the analog inputs of my
Fostex D5 which in turn has its TOS link S/PDIF output fed into the TOS
link S/PDIF input of my computer resident DIO 2496.
With the D5 in "Record" or "Record Pause" its analog input signals are
relayed as optical S/PDIF data to the computer where Wave Lab or Sound
Stream takes care of creating .WAV files for the CD burning.
I am aware that I would not be smart to hold the D5 in record stand-by for
extended periods on account of excessive head wear this causes, so I just
let the D5 copy whatever input I give it onto a "sacrificial" DAT tape.
Although I am largely satisfied with the results thus obtained, I am
curious as to the fidelity of the D5's A to D and whether it is comparable
to that of the apparently highly regarded SBM-1, or is it in fact no better
than that of the Sony D8.
Undoubtedly the technical cognoscente among us will have some opinions on
this, may I ask them to speak their minds on this provocative subject.
Mike(y)
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