DAT-heads Digest #156
Contents:
TEAC?CASIO batteries for sale (Bob Siegl)
Re: 5.1 recording (Scott C. Brown)
re: 5.1 recording (henry@dmbtapers.org)
NEED: Radio Taper in NYC (The Strokes 12/31/01 on 92.3 FM) ("vitamin worm")
Re. Puzzled by Optical Connectors (Mike Perkins)
FS: Fostex D5 ("Tom Morrison")
Re: 5.1 recording (Chris Jones)
Re: puzzled by optical connectors ("James B. Wilkinson")
phil nye tix ("Taperguy")
Season's Greetings to All (-bob)
Re: Toslink connectors ("D A T")
Looking for a used ZA2 (Patrick Chase)
4 sale: DAT recorder ("kip")
iso: hot tuna 12/5/01 harrisburg (Jbg0402@aol.com)
FS:CoreSound Denecke AD-20/Zefiro InBox (Robert Kane)
From: Bob Siegl <bobsiegl@yahoo.com>
Subject: TEAC?CASIO batteries for sale
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:09:52 -0800 (PST)
I have 2 batteries for the Teac DAP 20 (or the casio)
that I do not need. Think I could get $20 each for
these? Also I am looking for any good Stone Roses
recordings if they exist. Thanks.
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From: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (Scott C. Brown)
Subject: Re: 5.1 recording
Reply-To: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (scb)
Date: 22 Dec 2001 14:42:13 EST
--- Henry Hart wrote:
Problem...
His software does not support compression of the music, so he'd need a bunch of
discs to burn just one show. I'm not even sure if his current software supports
DTS or DDS encoding. Apparently not, I guess, if he can't compress the audio.
--- end of quote ---
Henry Henry Henry.....
My problem is not that, it's that the only software i do have will only create
compressed 5.1 for dvd video, and will not do uncompressed 16/48 5.1 for
dvd-audio
as with many 24 bit tapers out there, i'm waiting for a easy to use and
affordable dvd-audio burning software
scott
From: henry@dmbtapers.org
Subject: re: 5.1 recording
Date: 22 Dec 2001 11:46:47 -0800
Right... that's why we tape Dave Matthews. Not stuck with the general taper-section tapes. Remember, the 5.1 we did was from the 2nd row right up on a stack. And listen to some 5.1 recordings like ours. The rear channels are more fun to listen to than the front. You get that reverb off the back of the amphtheatre so you can barely hear the music, but the crowd interaction at a DMB show with everyone singing and clapping is very cool. I'm sure I could whip up some of it from Scott.C.Brown. What we wanted to do was give the listener the feeling of actually being at the show. From hearing the tracks individualy and imagining it all together, we certainly accomplished that goal. We don't want instruments coming out of all the channels. I don't know why you would. Doesn't resemble a live performance in the slightest. And again, stack tapes sound nothing like the tapers section. Mono stacks for DMB shows, yes... but you don't get that distant sound... the tapes resemble your distance to the sound source.
Anyway, it can be done, it sounds cool, IT WAS FUN!...
H!
> From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
> Subject: re: 5.1 recording
> Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:05:45 -0800
>
> Bit-wise, of course it is possible.
> But, we are barely recording concerts in stereo right now - two
> mics half-way back in the room is just phase-distorted mono IMHO.
> --Gary
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Pick me up love, pick me up love... EV-ER-Y-DAY.
From: "vitamin worm" <vitamin_worm@hotmail.com>
Subject: NEED: Radio Taper in NYC (The Strokes 12/31/01 on 92.3 FM)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:12:30 -0600
I am desperately seeking somebody who could tape this to DAT, MD, or Analog.
92.3 K-Rock is going to be airing the Strokes Concert live from the Apollo
theatre.
Here is the press release info:
"People living in the NY/CT/NJ area and who are not lucky enough to have
tickets for the Apollo show on new years eve will be able to tune into 92.3
FM K-Rock and listen to some of the show live - starts at approximately 11pm
US EST. "
They are an absolutely incredible band if you havent heard them (they are
time magazine's band of the year).
I have thousands of recordings by hundreds of bands to trade. You guys can
check out my list here:
http://fmorris.prohosting.com/bootlegs/
I would be willing to cover the cost of your blank media as well.
Thanks in advance!
--Frank Morris--
From: Mike Perkins <mperkins@telus.net>
Subject: Re. Puzzled by Optical Connectors
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:52:57 -0800
James B. Wilkinson writes:
Snip>
"the optical jacks on the sound card bracket don't look like
that. They are flat squares about a quarter of an inch on each side
and stand up on little stalks that cause them to stick out about a
quarter of an inch from the metal bracket. I've seen plenty of
pictures of connectors like that on the backs of various DAT decks
that I looked at on ebay a few months back. "
Well James, it seems like you must be looking a the dust protection plugs
that are inserted into TOS link receptacles when they are not in use, and
are typically shipped with TOS gear straight from the factory.
Just pull them out James and you will then see the things for which you are
looking .
Hope this helps,
Mike
From: "Tom Morrison" <SoMnyRds@ziplink.net>
Subject: FS: Fostex D5
Reply-To: "Tom Morrison" <SoMnyRds@ziplink.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:54:01 -0500
I've had some interest, but nobody has committed to buying, so I am
sending this again...
Heads replace ~100 hours ago...hasn't been used in over a year!
well maintained otherwise (preventive maintenance every 6-8
months with the Oades)...need to sell (so I can buy some other toys...:-)
any questions, ask away...
I'll also throw at least 15 DATS...of your choice from my collection!
$300/BO
t
From: Chris Jones <jonescx@bc.edu>
Subject: Re: 5.1 recording
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:41:49 -0500
Some of the easiest means by which one can bounce (compressed) surround
mixes to disk comes in the form of a package created by Universal Audio for
MAS. I haven't gotten my hands on any version yet, but I've heard quite a
bit about them all. DP 3 can mix surround native, but these tools make
getting a compressed mix to disk much easier. All hearsay since I haven't
yet played with it, but worth checking out--assuming of course one doesn't
want a PCM surround mix, which I'd think many of us would much rather have.
I've experimented a bit with both 5.1 and 6.2 surround on my MAS and I must
say, the addition of surround panners makes things relatively easy to place.
But, bear in mind that most of these sequencer programs are aimed at the
film score crowd--projects ultimately output in DTS or AC-3--few individuals
outside of production and mastering houses have the capability to author
dvd-audio discs. But, assuming one just wants to print a compressed
surround mix to disc and put a few still shots or black screen as the video
track, this is some of the best stuff with which to do it:
There are three versions of SmartCode Pro for Digital Performer ($795 MSRP)
users: DTS-DVD ($1495 MSRP), for encoding prior to DTS format DVD
duplication; DTS-CD ($495 MSRP) for creating 5.1 preview masters using
standard CD-burners, and Dolby Digital ($795 MSRP) for creating AC3 DVD
masters. All three versions have newly updated graphic user interfaces.
SmartCode Pro/Dolby Digital for Digital Performer also includes the latest
AC3 algorithms from Dolby Labs.
Of course we're talking about tools exclusive to Mac, which is where all
things multimedia belong anyway ;-)
Hope everyone enjoys the season!
Chris Jones
jonescx@bc.edu
From: "James B. Wilkinson" <jimmy@CS.cofc.EDU>
Subject: Re: puzzled by optical connectors
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:17:54 -0500
Thanks to all the guys who straightened me out on this. The first
reply reached me in 8 minutes!
You're all right. What I was looking at are the handles of the little
pull-out plugs that protect the works inside from dirt and damage.
(BLUSH) Believe it or not, I had actually pulled on them, but
evidently had been afraid to pull hard enough. The other strange part
is that the bottom of the little hole in the middle of the plug looks
for all the world like the end of an optical fiber if that's what
you're expecting it to be. That's what I was trying to poke the end
of the cable into. I guess they put that hole there just to see how
many people would do that.
Thanks again, guys. This list is really good value.
--
=============================================================
Jimmy Wilkinson | Perfesser of Computer Science
jimmy@cs.CofC.edu | The College of Charleston
(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC 29424
If there is one word to describe me,
that word would have to be "profectionist".
Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
From: "Taperguy" <taperguy@hotmail.com>
Subject: phil nye tix
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:53:37 -0800
hello everyone,
sad to say that a friend of mine was a bit late to buy tix for the phil and
friends nye show. anyone have an extra? please reply via email. thanks.
peace,
Antonio
From: -bob <nattyfret@yahoo.com>
Subject: Season's Greetings to All
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:55:54 -0800 (PST)
Happy Holidays !
It's been a great year on this board. Lot's of
excellent information shared and interesting
banter.
Peace, Happiness, and Good Health to you and yours.
Cheers,
-Bob
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From: "D A T" <dat@kylepike.com>
Subject: Re: Toslink connectors
Reply-To: <dat@kylepike.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:09:36 -0500
Jimmy,
Those black plastic square things are just dust covers. pull em out and you should be able to plug your toslink cable in.
FYI cables with toslink connectors on both ends are much more useful than a toslink-miniplug cable. you can always plug a miniplug adapter onto the end of a cable, but i've found myself in the field with only a miniplug and needing a toslink more than once... now i keep the toslink/mini adapter plugged into my md's input, and can use any optical cable (including the one that's coming from my DAT)
This isn't a stupid question, rather a common one, and i thought it best to respond to the group to get this into the archives..
KP
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From: Digestifier <DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 01 13:50:01 EST
>------------------------------
>
>From: "James B. Wilkinson" <jimmy@CS.cofc.EDU>
>Subject: puzzled by optical connectors
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:46:28 -0500
>
>I recently bought a Zoltrix Nightingale with the optical kit. It came
>with an optical cable, and I can't get either end of the cable to
>plug into the connectors on the optical bracket that goes with the
>sound card. The box says that that the cable is TOSLINK to miniplug,
>and that looks believable. One end certainly looks like it could be
>called miniplug. The plug at the other end looks like it would mate
>with the jacks I've seen pictures of that were labeled TOSLINK. It's
>got six sides and looks like it might have started out with a square
>cross section and then had two of the 90-degree edges beveled off to
>give it the two more sides (making the total of six). The problem is
>that the optical jacks on the sound card bracket don't look like
>that. They are flat squares about a quarter of an inch on each side
>and stand up on little stalks that cause them to stick out about a
>quarter of an inch from the metal bracket. I've seen plenty of
>pictures of connectors like that on the backs of various DAT decks
>that I looked at on ebay a few months back. They don't look at all
>compatible with the pictures of TOSLINK plugs that I've seen nor with
>the plugs that came on the cable that came with the Nightingale.
>
>I've spent a couple of hours trying Google searches, and can't find
>much that helps me. Can some of you guys straighten me out here?
>
>Thanks
>--
>
>=============================================================
>Jimmy Wilkinson | Perfesser of Computer Science
>jimmy@cs.CofC.edu | The College of Charleston
>(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC 29424
>
>If there is one word to describe me,
>that word would have to be "profectionist".
>Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
>Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
>
>------------------------------
From: Patrick Chase <pchase01@yahoo.com>
Subject: Looking for a used ZA2
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:47:38 -0800 (PST)
I was just sniped twice on eBay so I'm going back to
conventional methods. ;^D
Anyone got a used Zefiro ZA2 laying around? It's time
I started moving some of my DATs to SHN and CD-R. And
if anyone knows if the ZA2 can decode an AC-3 (Dolby
Digital) stream, please let me know. I have some stuff
on TIVO I want to move to WAV.
Emails to pmc@world.std.com. Thanks in advance.
- Patrick
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From: "kip" <onefourfive@hotmail.com>
Subject: 4 sale: DAT recorder
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:05:50 -0500
hey all
i have a TEAC da20 mk II DAT recorder for sale. better than
excellent condition--buy it and use it immediately! i'd planned
to use it as a cloner, to play DATs for burning to CD, but im
not dealing with DATs as much anymore.
even though its about a year old (purchased from sound pros)
its only got approx 15-18 hours play time and NO record time
on it at all. i have all the stuff: manuals, the remote, boxes, and
i can throw in:
- approx 10 blank DATs
- another 20+ tapes of shows--mostly stuff like tony rice,
sam bush, steve earle, del, etc., w/allman bros, dead, etc.
$300+ shipping. or bo.
OR...ill sell it for MUCH cheaper if you come get it in the
northern VA/DC/MD area (i see them on ebay in MUCH more
used condition for $350).
thanks
kip
++
kip martin
bassist w/mike auldridge&the travelers
onefourfive@hotmail.com
++
From: Jbg0402@aol.com
Subject: iso: hot tuna 12/5/01 harrisburg
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:35:57 EST
I'm looking for 1 more show from this past tour
it's from 12/5/01 harrisburg, pa
any help would be great
i have plenty to offer
thanks
jason
From: Robert Kane <roekbarnet@mailhost.det.ameritech.net>
Subject: FS:CoreSound Denecke AD-20/Zefiro InBox
Reply-To: roekbarnet@ameritech.net
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:13:14 -0500
SSIA, I have one of the for sale with the detachable mini-XLR>7 pin
cable. It is an excellent, compact pre-amp/AD combo. You can get all
the details here:
http://www.core-sound.com//inbox.html
New price is $390, I would like to get $330(price includes USPS Priority
shipping). I will also include a Sony optical>7 pin cable so you will
have a choice of connections. I used this unit for less than ten
shows. I am having some financial problems, so I need to sell off some
gear to get some extra money. Payment by USPS money order only please.
~Robert
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