DAT-heads Digest #175
Contents:
ISO... (Eddie Woodward)
Transfer machine for sale (John Bartol)
Taping Kenny Garrett ("Kris Kjellquist")
ISO: Dave Matthews Band ("Ziegler, Richard S")
Digital input device suggestions? (Clancey)
California Tapers? (HELP!) (Daniel Thweatt)
Re: dmic-20 (mitchell@hibbs.com)
Who Has Melefest 97 tapes? ("Bob Becker")
In Search Of.... (Smashmark@aol.com)
Unpacking Tapes - Why Bother? ("DRider")
Pro CD Burner (Kevin Brown)
HELP!!! Repaired tape NO audio ("BB")
Re: Unpacking Tapes - Why Bother? (L Sean Kennedy)
Re: [digiphish] Sorry for all the Crosspost's - "Savannah Woody Education Fund" ("gordon wilson")
Extra DATs for Trade or B&P ("Bill Lakenan")
The Who "club" shows ("jz")
ISO: WSP 9.26.99 Clemson, SC ("Mincey, Patrick")
From: Eddie Woodward <EWoodward@lva.lib.va.us>
Subject: ISO...
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:28:37 -0500
Hello. Sorry to trouble the list. I am looking for a few artists on CD-R:
Cree Summer
Alana Davis
Healing Sixes
38 Special
Outlaws
Thanks in advance!
Eddie
From: John Bartol <jbartol@home.com>
Subject: Transfer machine for sale
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:42:26 -0500
I have a machine here that I need to get rid of and I'm accepting
offers before i put it up on ebay.
It's a Pentium 3 - 450, 256 MB RAM, 3x27GB HD's, Voodoo 3 3500 TV tuner
card w/ svideo, RCA video, RCA (l&r) audio INS/OUTS, a Zefiro Acoustics
ZA-2 digital transfer card, 3 Com 10/100, 4x CDR, soundblaster PCI
audio.
Now, while this box isn't what I'd want to be doing 3D rendering on, it
IS perfect for doing transfers from digital audio as well as video. If
needed, I can easily add a firewire card for digital video inputs as
well.
Please email me with a subject line of " PC WANTED " and make me an
offer on it.
thanks in advance!
-jb
WOB - Vida Blue 12/31/01 roseland --> section TLM 170 (hyper)) -->AD1K
-->D7 for the first three people to respond (and first digester to
include the digest #).
From: "Kris Kjellquist" <kkjellquist@meditech.com>
Subject: Taping Kenny Garrett
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:05:00 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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Good morning. I am considering a trip to The Flynn in Burlington, VT to =
see Charlie Hunter and Kenny Garrett. I know CH allows open taping, but =
I am concerned that a straight jazz artist like Kenny Garrett might not =
be taper friendly. He is not listed in Bands That Allow Taping as I =
suspected.
Anyone know if he allows taping?
Kris Kjellquist, Applications Specialist, 781-774-5047
Medical Information Technology, Inc.
Mailstop: F4E33W, MEDITECH Circle, Westwood, MA 02090
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From: "Ziegler, Richard S" <zieglrs@chevrontexaco.com>
Subject: ISO: Dave Matthews Band
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:10:52 -0600
I'm looking for a, preferably CD but will take a DAT, copy of a good quality
audio/performance of a Dave Matthews Band show to give my daughter for her
birthday. Unfortunately I have no DMB to offer but I can help out on GD,
some ABB, Hornsby, some others. If anyone can help out, please e-mail me.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Dick Ziegler
FAMM Middle East Fuels Group
texnet: 333-7659; texnet fax: 333-7111
phone: 914-253-7659
fax: 914-253-7111
eFax (directly to computer): 720-293-6410
mobile: 203-247-4368
mailto:zieglrs@chevrontexaco.com or mailto:zieglrs@fammllc.com
From: Clancey <supton@erols.com>
Subject: Digital input device suggestions?
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:27:54 -0500
My trusty DatPort will not work properly on my new WindowsME machine. I did
a search of the database and didn't see any cure for my problem, ie; I can
do transfers from 44.1 sources, but cannot switch to 48. I would prefer to
keep my DatPort if anyone has found a driver\software that works with ME,
but barring that, I need to replace it.
I was told about the Midiman Audiophile card, which has a little *too* much
on it - I don't need midi input, I am only doing DAT>SHN conversion.
Midiman has a simpler card for a bit less money - the DiO 2448 - that would
seem to be a better choice for me, but has no d\a for analog. I could just
run my cassette player through my DAT deck I suppose, so that's not a real
problem, but I would like to know if there are other cards out there that
are superior cards out there for my purpose? I found pretty good pricing on
these 2 cards at Core-Sound - the Audiophile 2496 at $150 and the 2448 at
$105, and that is a pretty comfortable margin for me.
Anyone with any advice would be appreciated. Have you had experience with
either card, or have a suggestion for another method - is there another
DatPort-type USB i\o device I don't know about, for instance - also
gratefully appreciation.
Of course, if there's someone who has found a way to make the DatPort work
properly under Window$ME, I would *really* be a happy camper!
Thanks, and please email me off-list with any answers. I'll post anything I
think might me useful to the list.
take care,
Clancey
"I Believe We Die Of All The Things We Hate The Most"
"I Believe" - Todd Snider
My SHN list:
http://db.etree.org/clancey
From: DannyThweatt@webtv.net (Daniel Thweatt)
Subject: California Tapers? (HELP!)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:33:17 -0600 (CST)
That can tape the following shows?
MIke Roe is relatively taper friendly, and would probably allow a board
patch. The instrumental show on the 13th is going to be extremely
desirable trade material. (among the small circle of Roe freaks)
Anyone who can get me quality recordings? I will be happy to reimburse
your costs for media, tickets, gas, etc....
Here's the dates:
Mike Roe and Mark Harmon in concert (with bass looping legend Steve
Lawson opening)
Saturday, January 12 at 7pm Lakeside Church, 745 Oak Avenue Parkway,
Folsom, CA 985-3245
Steve Lawson headlining with ORBIS (Mike & Mark performing
instrumentally) as the opening act
Sunday, January 13th Cayuga Vault, 1100 Soquel Ave, Santa Cruz, CA 8pm
http://www.cayugavault.com
Have a nice day, Danny
Check out Sanctified Press:christian
rock,apologetics,poetry,ranting,etc...
"http://www.sanctifiedpress.com"
danny@sanctifiedpress.com
From: mitchell@hibbs.com
Subject: Re: dmic-20
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:48:57 -0800 (PST)
> Any feedback on this unit would be greatly appreciated.
> 20-60 db gain in 5db increments
This is the key. 5db increments isn't good when you don't have variable gain on
the AD (well, you kinda do, but you have to turn those pots something like 30
revolutions to increase a db, so they are basically worthless outside of an
initial rig calibration). The increments are via tiny dip switches, which
aren't exactly easy to maniuplate either. Invariably, you end up with levels
either too hot or too soft. If they would change the pots so you had variable
L/R gain on the AD, then 5db steps wouldn't be a big deal, and the unit would be
a pretty good intro pre/AD combo. As it stands now, it sits at the top of my
list of gear I hate.
mitch
From: "Bob Becker" <rlbecker@montrose.net>
Subject: Who Has Melefest 97 tapes?
Reply-To: "Bob Becker" <rlbecker@montrose.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:47:46 -0700
Greetings and Happy New Year,
Did anyone else get this set of 5 tapes back in 97?
I am doing some house cleaning and was going to transfer
much of this to CDr for a trade. I am looking for the list that
came with these that tells what is on what tape. I seem to have lost
that.
It was a pretty big tree at the time so maybe somebody
has it. Thanks!
{email me}
Bob Becker
From: Smashmark@aol.com
Subject: In Search Of....
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:15:21 EST
Its the new year and im looking for some recent shows by the following artists.......shows from the mid-to-latter part of 2001....some are obscure, but who knows what you can find out here........
Nikka Costa
Fugazi
Steve Wynn (doing "days of wine and roses")
Ron Wood (from the december UK shows)
Oasis (from the 10th anniversary club tour)
Pete Yorn
The Shins
Beachwood Sparks
Butthole Surfers
Ben Folds
Joe Strummer
Ian Hunter
Ozzy Osbourne (merry mayhem tour)
Chamber Strings
Glenn Tilbrook
Boz Scaggs
Mercury Rev
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
New Pornographers
lots to trade...
also, if anyone is interested, email me for my year end music list...
smashmark@aol.com
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Unpacking Tapes - Why Bother?
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:53:33 -0500
Hey Now!
In all the time that I have been taping and trading, I have never seen any
discussion on this topic.
I got my M1 from the Oade's who seem to be big fans of unpacking tapes. Back
then, I was a unidecker and it seemed like alot to unpack tapes w/ that tiny
little deck, so I quit.
Fast forward to the time when I said "what the heck" and went into debt to
buy an R-300 and an R-500. I still don't unpack tapes. I pop them in and
go.... whether it's a master in the M1 or whether I am cloning tapes in the
home decks.
Never had one single problem.
I know that everyone has their preference, but I don't unpack any tapes when
I send them out and I have never take any heat for that. Thank God!
Also, after somebody sent me 2 reused gnarly looking tapes as a B&P, I
ALWAYS note in my B&P offers that the tape needs to be SEALED. I don't want
some scummy old tapes in my deck.
So what's the big deal w/ unpacking tapes anyway?
Doesn't the tape touch the head when you do this?
If so, wouldn't that cause undue wear on the head and/or potential shedding
of the tape?
Anyone had a problem because they did not unpack a tape?
What's the point?
Got proof?
Just seems a bit much to me..........
What do you think?
I'd like to know how many tapers /traders out there actually unpack their
tapes beforehand.
Peace,
D
From: Kevin Brown <kevin5brown@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pro CD Burner
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:47:28 -0800 (PST)
I thought I was going to get the consumer Pioneer
PDR-609, but turns out I need one without SCMS.
Any suggestions?
Any reason to *not* get the Tascam CD-RW700? (I have
a Tascam DA-40 DAT machine, and really kind of like
it.)
Any known problems with it, or, any other better value
machines out there?
HBB is Pioneer, right? But they are kind of hard to
find.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AGAIN!
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From: "BB" <usagi@accessus.net>
Subject: HELP!!! Repaired tape NO audio
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:52:40 -0600
I taped a show last night, and I know it taped as I listened to some
of it.
So, today I had my first ever exciting tape snap. Having read here
and on other lists that you can repair tapes with cassette tape
repair kits, I went ahead and used some old splicing tape from
computer tape reels that we had at my job and did just that.
Now, however, there doesn't seem to be anything on the tape. Other
tapes play find in my DAT.
There is also no A-Time anymore.
Any thoughts? I've looked it over multiple times, it doesn't appear
to have flipped or anything like that. I just cut a little bit of
tape out, spliced the two clean ends, and rolled it back in.
usagi@accessus.net
http://db.etree.org/bobZemuda (.shn list)
AIM: olandbill
From: L Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.org>
Subject: Re: Unpacking Tapes - Why Bother?
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:13:30 -0500
--On Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:53 PM -0500 DRider
<Hawkwind@mediaone.net> wrote:
> In all the time that I have been taping and
> trading, I have never seen any discussion on
> this topic.
Well DAT-heads has been around 11 years,
so most things *have* been discussed.
In the days of the Panasonic 3500 it was
consensus that it was good thing. The
empirical data was that error stats on
tapes unpacked were lower. It also eliminates
all funky errors with absolute time, which
in the past would cause Sonys to not play
the tape (75ES, 55ES). In more modern decks/tapes
the error rates are lower and the decks less
fussy.
With the panasonic decks it was also
thought that the fast fast-forward
mode where ABS is not shown meant the
tape was lifted off the heads. However,
Jim Oade reported that this is false it
does touch the head. And for certain,
if it is reading ABS time, it is
touching the head.
Personally, when mastering I:
1) ALWAYS DO A LOAD CHECK (most important thing)
2) If possible do pack the tape
3) I try to leave a minute blank or so
If I am making a clone, I am not so fussy.
However, I would say there are both benefits
and costs to packing the tape. For me
the benefits are worth it when mastering.
I have had problems in a mastering
situation with a unpacked tape on the
SV-255. Additionally I have run into
tapes the Sony wouldn't play because
of weirdness with where the start-ids
and absolute time were.
The last thing I would note is that in
storing tapes there is some advantage
to storing them "tail out." If the tape
breaks as you put it in the deck... or
dries out/oxidizes it will affect the
(hopefully blank) tail of the tape. Leaving
a minute blank at the beginning of clones
is also good for similar reasons, also
in early decks and beta PCM errors were
definately higher at the beginning.
Sean
From: "gordon wilson" <gordonlw@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [digiphish] Sorry for all the Crosspost's - "Savannah Woody Education Fund"
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:05:22 -0500
end this already PLEASE!!!
Gordon
BWT one show on DAT for the first few.
"Life's a garden...dig it"
Joe Dirt
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From: Bob Silver <bocabob@bellsouth.net>
To: DRider <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>; <DGOWC1ST@AOL.COM>
Cc: Datheads <dat-heads@datheads.phish.net>; <GDH-Trading@yahoogroups.com>;
BUDD <BUDD@egroups.com>; Digiphil <digiphil@yahoogroups.com>; Digiphish
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:30 PM
Subject: [digiphish] Sorry for all the Crosspost's - "Savannah Woody
Education Fund"
> It seems that everyone wants to send this all over the place AGAIN!
>
> I apologize for causing all these cross post's, I was just trying to
explain
> my first post so long ago...... that someone had misunderstood my
> intentions! That is part my fault, I'm not a writer, things get worded
> wrong, E-mail gets screwed up, rumors start....and pretty soon someone
gets
> hurt.
>
> People......Let's deal with these things face to face.... that way maybe
> flame wars can be eliminated...and thing better understood!
>
> Now that that is out of the way,
>
> I have the first 5 packages that were sent in with contributions, and they
> will be in the mail by morning!
> I encourage you all that receive these sweet recordings to spread these
Far
> and Wide!
>
> Imagine the over 100 offers that I have accepted, send to 2 people, who
send
> to a couple, and on and on!
>
> They will be all over!
>
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> *******************************************
> WOB- One free set of SHN's to someone that will post and offer these to
10
> other people on their list!
>
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> I will pick one person from each list that will promise to do this!!
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From: "Bill Lakenan" <bill@lakenan.net>
Subject: Extra DATs for Trade or B&P
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:10:50 -0500
I've got 135 DATs full of musical goodness that I want to get rid of. I've
transferred much of my collection to CD and would like to find these DATs a
good home. Set includes shows by Dave Matthews Band, Guster, Rusted Root
and others... Check out the complete list at
www.lakenan.net/offer/shnlist.html. I'm not looking to gain anything from
this. Trade and B&P's are welcome. Feel free to pass this along to anyone
you might think is interested. Thanks.
- Bill Lakenan
- bill(at)lakenan.net
WOB Tax: B&P of any show on my SHN list for first person to respond with the
name of Bart Simpson's mother in the subject.
From: "jz" <jzamudio@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: The Who "club" shows
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:02:41 -0600
This is a heads up for any UK tapers. Tickets to 3 small venue shows onsale
Friday 1/10. The following is from Pete Townshend's site. Good luck and
good taping - appreciate clones.
José
The Who are going to embark on a few 'warm up' shows before the charity gigs
at the Royal Albert Hall in February.
Tickets for two shows, at the Portsmouth Guildhall, go on sale tomorrow. The
shows are on January 27th and 28th and tickets are priced £32.50. The venue
is all seated, holding around 2000 people. According to the Guildhall it's
likely that tickets will only be available to personal callers. However, if
you can't get there it's worth giving the Guildhall a call
tomorrow.
For details of how to contact the Guildhall you can visit their website at
http://www.portsmouthguildhall.co.uk/default.htm
A third warm up gig has now been announced at the Watford Coliseum on Thurs
Jan 31st. The theatre holds about 1400. Tickets for that show also go on
sale from the box office at 10.00 am Friday 11th Jan, again at priced £32.50
From: "Mincey, Patrick" <pamincey@davidson.edu>
Subject: ISO: WSP 9.26.99 Clemson, SC
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:20:38 -0500
Hey all,
I'd really like to get a hold of this show. I'm also looking for WSP Sit
and ski tour '96 shows off the dsbd if you can help...Please see my list for
a trade...Thanks
Patrick
www.phishhook.com/lists/pamincey
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