DAT-heads Digest #179
Contents:
re: best price on Maxell DATs ("Gary Davis")
DAT Liquidation (Max Dawson)
ISO: Echo & The Bunnymen ("dkpriebe")
MBHO tapes ("pzane")
Looking for some stuff: MUDHONEY & others... (Cale Wedell)
Sony 7 pin to digital fiber optic cable pricing?
The Word taping policy (SCHUBIDOO@aol.com)
Dual-well-record JVC cass deck currently $35 ebay (Jesse Lackey)
European Taper List "Dead-Center" (u2bono@t-online.de)
FS: Tascam DA-20MKII (Lamina8@aol.com)
LP to CD advicve (DAVEDARC@aol.com)
b+p offer (eric nelson)
How to record from SBD? ("Mark Sorrentino")
Garbage - down under and beyond (Bill Shaw)
ISO: Yngwie Malmsteen 2000-2001 shows ("Tatina, Bill")
Re: Info Needed On Oktava Mics ("Stanley W. Smith")
Off to the NAMM Show ("Marc Nutter")
DPA 4061 + The DVC from JK Labs ("Chris.VOYNET")
Amen - Big Day Out Festival (Alfred Ritter)
usb digital i/o DAW for sale ("Sam Hain")
FS: Midiman/M-Audio Duo ("Len Moskowitz")
ISO: AKG 391s ("Rick B.")
Sony SBM-1 and Denecke/Zefiro AD-20 Inbox (Magnus Berglund)
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: re: best price on Maxell DATs
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:21:40 -0800
These tapes were *trouble* in 1998-1999-2000. I haven't used any
lately (by design), but I do *not* recommend stocking up on these
tapes.
The Sony DG90P / DG60P seem to be the most reliable tape right
now. BUT, their new shell design has the possibility to misload in
a D7/D8 (D100/M1 unknown), so making a short test recording,
rewinding, and checking that you have A-Time is recommended.
(Be certain you are reading A-Time, not R-Time, and you should be
guaranteed a recording).
The Fuji DATs were also fine last time I used them, but I didn't like
their plastic box, which obscured more of the tape and labeling due
to "thick edges".
--Gary
From: Max Dawson <planc@discobiscuits.com>
Subject: DAT Liquidation
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:33:26 -0800
Hey there...
I'm leaving the country for Australia in a few weeks (really!) and I'm
looking to part with the following DAT tapes. Most of these tapes are
either Sony, Maxell, or KAO 60's and 90's, I'm only asking $1.25 per tape,
so I hope its obvious from the outset that profiteering and/or bootlegging
is far from my intention. Rather, I'm just at one of those points in life
when a grand purge is in order, and these tapes are first in line to go away
from my incredibly cluttered life.
Here's how I'd like to do things: I've broken the tapes up into -- groups.
Groups won't be broken up unless you can provide me with a compelling reason
to do so. Some of the groupings are eclectic, and some are fairly
predictable. However, you can count on one thing: all these tapes were
recorded on first pass new media and should sound *great.* Perfect for
newbies, as they say.
If you're interested in any of these bundles, simply email me, making sure
to mention the group you're interested in. I'll send you payment info and
then ship the tapes out to you via Priority Mail ASAP. Plus, I'll consider
special discounts for anyone willing to take more than one group off my
hands.
Group 1 (8 tapes)
Ani DiFranco - 3.8.98 and 7.1.94 (on one tape)
Ani DiFranco - 9.19.97
Ani DiFranco - 6.20.98
Ani DiFranco - 5.15.94
Ani DiFranco - 6.5.96
Ani DiFranco - 3.21.98 and 7.8.94 (one one tape)
Ani DiFranco - 10.1.98
CSN&Y - 9.13.69
Group 2 (8 tapes)
Phish - 8.17.97 (2 tapes)
Phish - 11.21.97 Set 2 Only
Phish - 12.6.97 Set 2 Only
Phish - 8.9.97 Set 2 Only
Frank Zappa - 12.10.70
Phil and Phriends (Trey and Page) - 4.17.99 (2 tapes)
Group 3 (5 tapes)
John Coltrane - 11.1-3.63 (1 tape)
Miles Davis - 3.21.60
Miles Davis - 9.29.72
Miles Davis - 10.17.70
Scofield, Medeski, Wood, and Stubblefield - 9.18.98
Group 4 (6 tapes)
The New Deal - 3.18.99
The New Deal 1.28.01
The New Deal - 1.29.01
The New Deal - 1.30.01
Sound Tribe Sector 9 - 3.8.00
The Slip - 9.25.98 Set 2 only
Group 5
Grateful Dead in 1972 (19 tapes)
Includes the following: 4.14.72, 5.3.72, 5.4.72, 5.11.72, 5.16.72, 5.23.72,
8.24.72, 9.21.72 II, 11.19.72, 12.31.72
Group 6
Grateful Dead in the 60's (16 tapes)
Includes the following: 1.20.68, 1.22.68, 8.22.68, 2.28.69, 4.5.69,
4.21.69, 4.23.69, 4.26.69, 4.27.69, 6.7.69, 6.13.69, 6.14.69, 7.11.69,
11.08.69, 12.30.69
Group 7
Grateful Dead 1970-71 (11 tapes)
Includes the following: 2.1.70, 2.2.70, 5.6.70, 5.15.70b, 8.5.70, 9.18.70,
9.19.70, 9.20.70, 4.8.71, 4.29.71, 11.8.70, 12.14.71 II
Sorry for the massive listing, but as I've only got a few weeks left
stateside, I'm quite motivated to pass these tapes on to new homes. Contact
me at PLANC@discobiscuits.com or mdawson@sockeyecreative.com if you've got
any interest.
Thanks
From: "dkpriebe" <dkpriebe@attbi.com>
Subject: ISO: Echo & The Bunnymen
Reply-To: "dkpriebe" <dkpriebe@attbi.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:43:48 -0800
I am looking for DATs or CDRs of the recent tour that Echo & the Bunnymen
did in November/December 2001. I am also interested in trading for older
shows. I have lots to trade.
Thanks, Dave
From: "pzane" <pzane@hotmail.com>
Subject: MBHO tapes
Reply-To: "pzane" <pzane@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:49:45 -0600
Hi!
I'm looking into purchasing MBHO 603's w/ Ka200n. Unfortunately I have =
not heard that many tapes with these mics as not a ton of people have =
them yet. If anyone would be gracious enough to help me out and provide =
me with some tracks, entire concerts not needed necessarily, I would be =
very grateful. =20
I'm also looking to do some comparisons between preamps. If anyone has =
tapes made with a Sonosax, SD's Mp2, or another stealthy preamp, I'd =
love to hear it. Tapes made with mbho's are a plus as well.
I'd be glad to offer up shows in return from my list. Mostly Smashing =
pumpkins but there are other goodies on there from lots of different =
types of bands. SHN's only however. I don't think I have enough time =
to deal with mail trades w/ school starting :-(
Thanks
Zach
From: Cale Wedell <calewedell@yahoo.com>
Subject: Looking for some stuff: MUDHONEY & others...
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:06:18 -0800 (PST)
This is my second quest on this list for MUDHONEY
recordings. I am interested in anything I do not
already have. My list can be found @
http://aerozeppelin.hypermart.net
I am also interested in:
Sonic Youth's set from 09-26-92
And anything from the following bands:
Nebula, Dead Moon, J Mascis & The Fog, 7 Year Bitch,
Murder City Devils (most recent October 2001 tour,
especially).
Please email me if you have anything.
calewedell@yahoo.com
thanks
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From: <kenko1@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Sony 7 pin to digital fiber optic cable pricing?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:13:32 -0500
Hi all,
Today at a Sony Electronics store, I saw a few of these Sony 7 pin to digital fiber optic cables (does both in and out) for $84.75 + tax per. Is this about the right price for one?
Ken
From: SCHUBIDOO@aol.com
Subject: The Word taping policy
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:21:05 EST
The Word are starting up tomorrow. This is going to be FUN!
Check out their site:
http://www.whatistheword.com/
Does anybody know what the taping policy will be for these shows?
Kurt
The Word
01/14/02 Boulder, CO The Fox Theater
01/15/02 Boulder, CO The Fox Theater
01/18/02 Seattle, WA The Showbox
01/19/02 Vancouver, BC Commodore Ballroom
01/20/02 Portland, OR Crystal Ballroom
01/21/02 Eureka, CA Club West
01/22/02 Santa Cruz, CA The Catalyst
01/23/02 San Francisco, CA The Fillmore
01/24/02 San Francisco, CA The Fillmore
01/25/02 Los Angeles, CA House of Blues
01/26/02 Solana Beach, CA Belly Up Tavern
From: Jesse Lackey <jesse@celestialaudio.com>
Subject: Dual-well-record JVC cass deck currently $35 ebay
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:34:24 -0500
in nyc:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1319506920
From: u2bono@t-online.de
Subject: European Taper List "Dead-Center"
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:28:22 +0100 (MET)
hi!
i've set up a mailing list for european tapers mainly at
yahoogroups.com. if you want to join this group please send a mail to
the following adress:
dmsounds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
this mailinglist is as i said for tapers. it should be a plattform for
european bootleggers to comunicate and talk about mics, dats, mds,
tapersections, venue infos and whatsoever!. we've also set up an
european database for tapers which includes all the important info you
need of several popular venues in europe!.
please keep in mind that this is a taper-list not a trader-list. there
are a lot of those and i do not want to see our list going into that
direction!.
right now we are 64 tapers and still counting :).
alex
moderator
From: Lamina8@aol.com
Subject: FS: Tascam DA-20MKII
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:45:31 EST
Hello-
i'm looking to sell my tascam da-20mkII simply b/c I don't use it as much as I thought I would. It has less than 100 hrs of use. I can include a 10 pack of blank dats...it has S/PDIF Digital l/O, RCA unbalanced In/Out, SCMS-free recording. For more specs just e-mail me. I'd like to get $500. E-amil me at Lamina8@aol.com if interested.
Thanks,
john
From: DAVEDARC@aol.com
Subject: LP to CD advicve
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:35:26 EST
HEy folks,
Not knowing much about this as I have a stand alone burner.......What is the
best device and software to be able to run a turntable through your computer,
record as wave file, then spit out to cd. I would need the card with the RCA
jacks, and the software to edit any glitches, and to actually "record", etc.
Any advise off line would be greatly appreciated. I know most of this type of
capture and record is done for DATS, so I thought you guys would be the
experts on this.
Thank you kindly,
Dave
From: eric nelson <eyeandiglass@netzero.net>
Subject: b+p offer
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:42:17 -0500
U2 11.7.87 McNichols Arena denver, Co. sbd>pcm>dat
I have one copy of this show on a 90m maxell dat. I am getting rid of
it becuase there is one cut in the show, possibly 2, otherwise the
shound and show are good.
In return I am looking for a b+p of one new, labelled, unwrapped maxell
hs4 60m or sony dg60p.
first person to respond after the digest hits my inbox gets it.
Eric
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From: "Mark Sorrentino" <idocmark@buffnet.net>
Subject: How to record from SBD?
Reply-to: idocmark@buffnet.net
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:06:26 est5edt
A friend of mine has been offered SBD access
for one of his favorite bands next show.
I was wondering if someone could tell me what
type of cable are needed and any other important
info. Would they require regular RCA plugs to
mini or XLR (male or female?) to mini? Or does
this depend of the band's setup.
Also what about levels. Will there be any problem
with them being to hot or not high enough. If so
what do you do about that?
He will be using a Sony D100
Thanks,
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From: Bill Shaw <Bill.Shaw@hds.com>
Subject: Garbage - down under and beyond
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:51:15 -0800
Garbage will be playing a run of concerts in New Zealand and Australia over
the next 2 weeks, and then 3 shows in Japan right after that in early
February. If anyone gets recordings, please let me know. All Garbage
tourdates and past setlists can be found on my website
http://www.garbagebase.com
Thanks!
Bill
From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: ISO: Yngwie Malmsteen 2000-2001 shows
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:11:13 -0700
Please contact me if you have any US or Europe Yngwie Malmstenn Audio for 2000-2001. Thanks Bill
http://www.pd.net/yngwie/touring/2000/usa.html
http://www.pd.net/yngwie/touring/2000/europe.html
http://www.pd.net/yngwie/touring/2001/usa-2.html
http://www.pd.net/yngwie/touring/2001/Europe.html
http://www.pd.net/yngwie/touring/2001/SouthAm.html
From: "Stanley W. Smith" <swsmith@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Info Needed On Oktava Mics
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:10:02 -0600
Hey All Y'all,
Good sounding cheap mics, tho' lacking in quality control and
often not truly a "matched pair". Guitar Center seems to have imported
the entire factory and the gnomes who build 'em, as they're everwhere... ;)
The truly sad thing is that they're fragile, moisture and wind sensitive,
and
don't hold up in even gentle use in the clubs... Great for a climate
controlled
project studio, but near useless as field mics. YGWYPF - TANSTAAFL
Stan Smith
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>From: JamesHelgerson@aol.com
>Subject: Info Needed On Oktave Mics
>Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:01:00 EST
>
>What can you tell me about Oktava o12 mics? Are they any good at
>all? I know they're rather inexpensive, but how do they sound? What
>kind of frequency range do they have?? How much bd sound pressure
>levels can they handle??????
From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: Off to the NAMM Show
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:22:55 -0700
Hi All,
With at least one prominent pro audio manufacturer having hinted about a
forthcoming release of a computer-based recording product to be announced at
NAMM, the show this week in Anaheim holds great promise for field
recordists.
We are heading out on Wednesday night and will spend the rest of the week
checking out all the coolest new releases. Expect a detailed show report
early next week.
In the meantime, we are offering some extraordinary deals on equipment
purchased by Wednesday, January 16 at 3:00 pm. All orders will get a
special bonus or a greater than usual discount.
Currently, we have a lot of great DEMO and pre-owned equipment, including:
AKG, DPA (B&K), Earthworks, MBHO, Neumann, and Schoeps microphones
Sound Devices, Lunatec, and Graham-Patten pre-amps
Sonic AD2K and Graham-Patten ADC-20 a/d converters
and great discounts on Sonic Foundry Sound Forge 5.0 software.
Please call us toll-free for details.
Here's to a happy 2002!!!
Marc
Marc Nutter
Sonic Sense, Inc.
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO 80210
Toll Free Phone (877) 324-4463
http://www.sonicsense.com
From: "Chris.VOYNET" <cvoynet@nerim.fr>
Subject: DPA 4061 + The DVC from JK Labs
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:48:24 +0100
hi,
Actualy my ring is a DPA 4061 + a dpa preamp 6030.
I would like to upgrade my 6030.
what do you think about The DVC from JK Labs ??
http://www.geocities.com/jk_labs/index.html
if you have this stuff, please tell me more about it...
Chris
From: Alfred Ritter <rnrjunkee@yahoo.com>
Subject: Amen - Big Day Out Festival
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:47:38 -0800 (PST)
Is there anyone out here living in Australia? My
friends band Amen are playing on the Festival this
year and i'd like to get some of these shows recorded.
If anyone is planning on going could you tape the
band Amen. they are going on pretty early at most of
the shows. Here are the dates and times they are
going on.
Jan 20 Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA - Ericcson Stadium
Jan 22 Sydney, AUSTRALIA - Gold Coast Parklands
Jan 24 Sydney, AUSTRALIA - Metro (headline show)
Jan 26 Sydney, AUSTRALIA - Hordern Pavillion (
opening for Sysyem of the Down)
Jan 28 Melbourne, AUSTRALIA - Melbourne Showgrounds
Jan 31 Melbourne, AUSTRALIA - Corner Hotel
(headline)
Feb 1 Adelaide, AUSTRALIA - Adelaide RA * HS
Showgrounds
Feb 3 Perth, AUSTRAILA - Claremont Showgrounds
If you can record any of these please contact me at:
rnrjunkee@yahoo.com
thanks,
AL
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From: "Sam Hain" <samhain1313@hotmail.com>
Subject: usb digital i/o DAW for sale
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:47:35 -0500
Hello all, longtime lurker yada yada yada ...
I'm the process of either selling my DAW in its entirety or parting it
out(Dell Optiplex Gxa, PII 233, 96mb ram, 15gb Maxtor HD, Zefiro ZA2, 2mb
Ati Rage video, Panasonic based CDR reader 24x (rips audio, Memorex CDRW
2x,2x,8x burner). I have burnt many a CD, very few coasters. Has registered
copies of Soundforge XP (came with the zefiro) and CDRWIN (I paid for a
copy) installed along with a clean Win98SE install with no other crap
installed. Have been using this setup for about 3 years. HD is 1.5 years
old, CDR is 3 years old. If anyone is interested, let me know. I will sell
the Zefiro by itself if desired. It is an ISO card. Have all documentation
and cables as well as latest drivers. This is a plug and play box, just
needs a keyboard, mouse and a monitor. Guaranteed not to be DOA. $400 . ZA2
alone is $150
I'm looking to move to a laptop based configuration. Can anyone recommed a
quality USB based digital audio I/O? I know Opcode was one of the first
years ago, are they still around? I saw Edirol on the Musicians Friend
site.. any good? I'm trying to keep the cost below $200 and prefer Coax at
minimum (cannot use a Optical only solution).
Thanks.
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From: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Subject: FS: Midiman/M-Audio Duo
Reply-To: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:20:24 -0500 (EST)
Just wanted to let folks know that Core Sound now offers the new
Midiman/M-Audio Duo at low cost.
The Duo is a two-channel mic pre-amp/A-to-D converter, with headphone
monitoring, line level inputs and outputs, S/PDIF output and USB
interface.
Please see our Web page for more details!
Len Moskowitz Binaural StealthMics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: "Rick B." <rarepj@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: AKG 391s
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:02:08 -0800
I found a dealer that has a used pair of AKG 391 for $450. Any one here care
to beat him?
Thanks!
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From: Magnus Berglund <magnus.berglund@karlstad.bonet.se>
Subject: Sony SBM-1 and Denecke/Zefiro AD-20 Inbox
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:27:15 +0100
Hi all,
I have some questions on Sony SBM-1 and Denecke/Zefiro AD-20 Inbox.
(For a background on my needs, see the end of this mailing)
- Any idea of the noice level of the pre-amp in SBM-1?
- Same question for the Denecke AD-20.
- Today, I have an old Sony TCD-D3. Has anyone got some figures on the
noice level for its pre-amp (just for comparison...)?
- Is the pre-amp of SBM-1 the same as in the new DAT-recorders TCD-D100
and PCM-M1 ?
- Is the A/D-converter of SBM-1 the same as in TCD-D100 and PCM-M1 ?
- If "yes" on the previous questions, are there any arguments left using
an SBM-1 together with a TCD-D100/PCM-M1 ?
- Generally, how do SBM-1 and Denecke AD-20 compare to each other?
- I am a bit worried about SCMS. Using an external A/D-converter means
that my original is a digital recording. Does this make digital copying
impossible? (in my case from a TCD-D3 to a PC sound card)
- What SCMS code does the SBM-1 produce?
- Same question for AD-20.
- Any other issues to consider with SCMS?
- My mic is a stereo-mic with a single XLR-connector where L, R and
ground are mapped on the three pins. Any problems to wire a cable which
adapts this to the dual balanced XLR-connectors of the AD-20 if I go for
that alternative?
- - -
MY BACKGROUND (skip if you are not interested...)
I have used a Sony TCD-D3 together with a Sennheiser MKE 66 stereo-mic
occasionally (actually very seldom...) during a 10 years time for live
recordings, mainly church organ music since I play the organ myself.
Lately, I have started to make recordings more frequently, but I suffer
from some problems with my equipment:
- It is quite noicy
- The TCD-D3 is sometimes malfunctioning mechanically
- Sometimes poor contact on the mic input connector
- The battery pack has passed away several years ago (which is less of a
problem for me since I often record in churches where there are power
outlets)
So, I am considering upgrading my equipment, but I would like to go for
a step-wise approach.
My idea is to start with a mic pre-amp and/or A/D-converter and later on
(when the TCD-D3 is completely dead...) replace the DAT-recorder.
I guess the Sony SBM-1 or perhaps the Denecke/Zefiro AD-20 would be a
natural start.
(A problem with the AD-20 from my perspective is that I have not been
able to find a dealer here in Sweden. International orders are always a
bit risky concerning support, etc...)
But if it turns out that the SBM-1 (or AD-20) will become useless when I
upgrade my DAT-recorder, then I might consider to go for a new
DAT-recorder directly instead of throwing away my money.
To copy my recordings to CDs, I have so far used the analogue output
from TCD-D3, feeded it to my PC (trough a Soundblaster Live card), then
edited the recordings and burned the CD. It appears that I will need an
interface box, the RM-D100K, in order to connect my TCD-D3 digitally to
my sound card (or are there any simpler adapters?). I may invest in this
as well, but I like to clear out all SCMS issues first.
- - -
/Magnus Berglund, Sweden
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