DAT-heads Digest #189, Volume #6 Mon, 21 Jan 02 03:50:01 EST Contents: Flogging Molly (Mexminute@aol.com) Lovage show ("Rich Gomes") Dream Theater 19 Jan 2002 (rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com) re: DATs for sale? /. . . argument there (acffh) FS: Neumann SKM150 kit + ak40 (cards)+accessories ("brian durham") recording from the board w/ a Sony PCM-M1 (m batt) ISO: Paul Galis (CatalystX) Mission of Burma - Avalon Ballroom, 1-18-02 (willard robinson) SCI DSBDS (Jonathan Lerman) TREY St. Louis 7/20/01 B&P Offer ("DRider") ISO: Timo Ellis, Incredible Moses Leroy, Jay Jay Johanson.... ("Erik B") NAMM 2002--Apogee's Mini Me and A Changing World of Audio Recording : ) ("Marc Nutter") looking for live The Walkmen shows ("jcarvalh") Need New Burner: Help! ("DRider") FS: Sony D100 (Eric Eckberg) ULTIMATE PETER ROWAN HOME SHOW! ("T.J. Hoffman") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mexminute@aol.com Subject: Flogging Molly Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 06:21:34 EST I am in search of any superior quality live recordings by Flogging Molly. If you haven't caught these guys, you are missing something special. I've got over 2,200 entries on my list to trade. Thanks! I can be reached at mexminute@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Rich Gomes" Subject: Lovage show Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:00:13 -0500 Taped Loveage the other night in Boston. Taped sounds great, CSB>D7 10ft from stack. Looking for other Lovage shows in trade. Thanks -Rich ------------------------------ From: rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com Subject: Dream Theater 19 Jan 2002 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:08:57 -0600 Did anyone tape Dream Theater show at BB Kings? If so, I would love to trade for a copy. Thanks in advance, Richard Richard e-mail: rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com www: http://home.midsouth.rr.com/rwarren ------------------------------ From: acffh Subject: re: DATs for sale? /. . . argument there Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:24:00 -0600 OK copyright cop! You want an argument, you got one! >well, its clearly illegal to ever sell a tape of a live performance without >paying into RIAA, BMI/SCAP, etc. there is no arguement there. Clearly?? EVER??? I work for bands, they write their own music, they pay no money to the RIAA and receive no services. Now YOU TELL ME what the RIAA is doing that they deserve any cash for my friends' work!?! "CLEARLY" the RIAA benefits the artists at the TOP of the pyramid. Grassroots bands with no published albums and no radio play OWE NOTHING to the RIAA and I defy you to tell me that they do. The RIAA wants us all to pay their fees and not question them while they cut off avenues of public music distribution, and bottleneck the recording industry through Hillary Rosen's pockets so she can take a little gold from all the creative people (read SUCKERS) that write music. ". . .and the [wo]man in the suit has just bought a new car on the profits [s]he made on your dreams" Traffic- LSOHHB I don't buy it. The NRA is not in existance to make grassroots people happy or safe, they're out to SELL GUNS- they're a MANUFACTURERS LOBBY, and are consequently not ususally working for the best interests of the consumers, or everyday citizens of the USA. Likewise, the RIAA cares little if you have good music to which to listen, they would rather you have to pay brittney spears and O-town every time you dub a copy of string cheese onto a "Music CD-R". That's why those discs cost more, they have a tax which the RIAA negotiated to benefit artists at the top of the game, and to tax the consumers, who are assumed to be nothing more than a bunch of copyright violators. Well, by taping taping-friendly bands, and other non-RIAA music onto the CD's, RIAA is getting a piece of money they THEY DO NOT DESERVE. The RIAA's low estimation of the average consumer may be correct, but they still have their hands in some pockets where they do not belong. Before you say that there is NO ARGUMENT, why don't you try phrasing your statement as a tautology, like "either the world is round or it is not" No argument there!!! "its just illegal to sell music without the owner(s) giving license." I can see why you would say that, but if you think about actually collecting the pennies from all the copying, wouldn't you be a better-loved musician if you spent that energy making new music instead? Or do you just prefer to work a scale job playing someone else's music, and you want to get paid at the end of the day, so you take home your boss's arguments to try out on a bunch of free-thinking recordists?!? Nice try, I like music that changes from time to time, if you're out there playing the same exact music every night (like a Broadway show for example) I can certainly see why you would feel threatened that a live recording could cost you money, but if you're a creative musician who is paying attention to the other members of the group, and listening while you play, perhaps you will notice that the free and minimal cost-distribution of live music is something that a lot of new groups WANT! It's free advertisement! The RIAA is controversial, and doesn't need to exist, and I'll be happier when it's GONE GONE GONE. Why don't you tell us all how much they pay you to write this industry bulldada?? love tom (still in the fire suit, inviting public flames! I do not like private flamings, if you have something critical to say, say it in public so lots of people can take you to task if you're WAY OFF) ps- if this sentence was in English I would have a better chance of understanding it: "its the money thing that bothers me. let me say it again: its THE MONEY exchanging hands. why? im getting to that...selling them 'for cost' is suspicious, but you know the difference between selling a show and selling a tape is." =--=-=-==--=-==-=--=-==-=--==-=--==-=-=--=-==-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==--==--= From: "kip" Subject: DATs for sale? Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:24:08 -0500 hey will foy said: >however, i do welcome comments on this. i'd love to hear >a constructive argument on why this is either illegal or unethical. well, its clearly illegal to ever sell a tape of a live performance without paying into RIAA, BMI/SCAP, etc. there is no arguement there. its just illegal to sell music without the owner(s) giving license. i believe its unethical, but im no ethicist. personally, i DO trade stuff on a 'dont ask/dont tell' basis frequently. my gripe is NOT trading. hell, i dont even care if someone stealths a band im playing with who wont give permission to tape. if i see a big pair of croakies on someones glasses with wires down his back and a bag on his lap--more power to you!! tape away! but dont tell my boss--and give me a copy! its the money thing that bothers me. let me say it again: its THE MONEY exchanging hands. why? im getting to that...selling them 'for cost' is suspicious, but you know the difference between selling a show and selling a tape is. ive received a couple nasty emails because of my beliefs. being labeled a 'anti-taper', a 'nazi' and a record 'label lackie' is unfortunate. if you only knew how hard my label (Rebel Records) is fighting just to stay afloat. youd realize that all of us arent reeling in big Phish $$. many of the people in bands traded on this board have day jobs. or living on $15K a year and looking for a bimbo with a good job and a health plan to marry. Bob siegl said: >Maybe we should be a bit more discriminating. not a bad idea. thanks for the bandwidth. ill move on to questions about mastering and normalization in a bit. kip martin ++ kip martin professional upright bassist on time, in tune, well dressed... ++ -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: "brian durham" Subject: FS: Neumann SKM150 kit + ak40 (cards)+accessories Reply-To: durham_b@msn.com Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:47:56 -0500 hey now, so i talked about this online awhile back, and had a few bites, but this time i've made up my mind, and am ready to go: because of the upcoming baby in april, i'm thinking about selling my mics. i have the 140/50's (the 50's are the hypercards). when i purchased them, i got the skm150 kit (which is the km100 bodies, ak50 caps, active cables, x/y and ortf mount) and a pair of ak40 capsules. each cap has a little jewelers box, as does the kit. there is a chip in one corner of the kit's box. everything else is pristene. almost always used with windscreens, to keep the smoke out. as for accessories, i have the wns windscreens, a t-bar, 2 AT shock mounts, and an x/y shure mount. if interested in these, let me know. i would really like to get about 2300$ for everything, and i'd pay the shipping. if you're really interested, make an offer though. i have a ton of sample tapes in various applications, including studio use. the mics are a little less than 2 years old. previously, i had folks making offers on just the 50 caps, or just the 40 caps, etc. i will only consider doing this if someone else has made an offer for the counter-part that you didn't want (i.e. if you want the 50 caps, i need to find someone interested in the skm140 part before i'll break things up). i'm quite serious about this, and have alot of upcoming exspenses to worry about, so i'd like to get a deal worked out and ship these....so make an offer! thanks, -brian dat list: http://www.geocities.com/jadedphan/datlist.html cd-r list: http://www.geocities.com/jadedphan/cdrlist.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ From: m batt Subject: recording from the board w/ a Sony PCM-M1 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:41:59 -0800 (PST) I typically like to record from a soundboard using a Sony PCM-R500 home deck. However, I will be on a business trip in February and plan to record a show or two in the VA and MD area. I have recorded using the M1 in the past w/ mixed results. What is the best settinging on the M1 when recording from the board? On the back, should it just be under Manual or is the Mic Limiter helpful at all. Any other settings, other than the obvious (recording levels) to be concerned about? Thanks! Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ From: CatalystX Subject: ISO: Paul Galis Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:50:05 -0800 I'm looking for a taper named Paul Galis, a.k.a. Tape Junkie, who I'm sure some of you have traded with. He had a very extensive collection of rock, especially the Black Crowes, at www.tapejunkie.com and his email address was tapejunkie@home.com. He quit trading a few months ago, and his web site/email address have been defunct since the AT&T/@Home fiasco. I'd appreciate any help in contacting him, please email me offline if you have any info. Thanks Aaron http://home.attbi.com/~catalystx/trading.html ------------------------------ From: willard robinson Subject: Mission of Burma - Avalon Ballroom, 1-18-02 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:54:38 -0500 I taped this the other nite with my Sony d10>HEBs right in front of the right stack - and it sounds KILLER (if you have traded my masters then you understand the art).... Looking for trades - please send list - my old list is at www.star.net/People/~willr/dat-list.txt Looking for Afghan Whigs/Twilight Singers Bush tc Will ------------------------------ From: BabyPrite@webtv.net (Jonathan Lerman) Subject: SCI DSBDS Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:55:38 -0500 (EST) New fan to this band would love some flawless, complete show DSBDS of theirs on DAT. I have an incredible quality, flawless, complete show Pink Floyd DSBD to swap+a lot more. ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: TREY St. Louis 7/20/01 B&P Offer Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:24:30 -0500 Hey Now! I will do 2 B&P's of this show featuring John Medeski (1) First person to respond and (1) First Digester Digester must put Digest Number in subject box This is DAT only! Takes ONE 90m SEALED DAT From my PHAT master: Josephson C-603/KA-500(hyper)>Denecke PS-1A>Zefiro Inbox>PCM-M1 Cloning Decks: R-300>R-500 Go RAMS!! D-Rider ------------------------------ From: "Erik B" Subject: ISO: Timo Ellis, Incredible Moses Leroy, Jay Jay Johanson.... Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:42:22 -0500 If anybody out there has anything rare by: The Incredible Moses Leroy Timo Ellis Jay-Jay Johanson Amon Tobin Fila Brazillia Hawksley Workman please get in touch w/me. I have lots of all kinds of stuff to trade. thanks, Erik erikb33@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------ From: "Marc Nutter" Subject: NAMM 2002--Apogee's Mini Me and A Changing World of Audio Recording : ) Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:11:47 -0700 Hi All, Having just returned from NAMM 2002 in Anaheim, I can easily say the most exciting news for tapers is the release of Apogee's Mini Me and Marantz battery powered CD Recorder. It's great to see word is out and everyone is so psyched. It is with good reason! Apogee has assured us that they will be shipping our sizable order in 60-90 days, as soon as they are available. This unit is really cool. Feels great, looks great, and we can all count on Apogee for the sound that made them famous. Although we couldn't operate the show units, it promises nearly everything we as tapers have wanted for years. For a full report of the hands-on experience we had with it, check out our website http://www.sonicsense.com With Apogee's awesome pricing on this unit, we can hope to talk some sense into Benchmark regarding the AD2K. It still has a number of different features that the Mini Me doesn't have, but we gotta work on that pricetag. Expect more info. on this matter soon. For those interested in placing pre-orders, we are doing so now. For those who are a bit more cautious, we'll have sample tapes as soon as we get a working Mini Me in our hands. Additionally, be sure to see that Marantz Portable CD-Recorder. This may make the decline of DAT recorders a lot less painful. We also saw some great portable equipment from Digidesing (Pro Tools) and Steinberg. At the show, we spoke with numerous manufacturers about lots of forthcoming products. Give us a call toll-free to discuss any items not found on our NAMM 2002 review at www.sonicsense.com/namm2002.htm Happy Recording Everybody! Marc Marc Nutter Sonic Sense, Inc. 2755 S. Gilpin St. Denver, CO 80210 Toll Free Phone (877) 324-4463 http://www.sonicsense.com ------------------------------ From: "jcarvalh" Subject: looking for live The Walkmen shows Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:14:42 -0500 Saw this band for the first time last night in Boston. Stood too close and got some bass overload, so I am now on the hunt for any live The Walkmen sessions. Email if you have taped this fantastic NYC band. regards --- Jeff ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: Need New Burner: Help! Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:37:39 -0500 Hey Now! My Yamaha SCSI Burner has died. I have: Asus IDE mother board Teac CD-532S SCSI reader Yamaha 4416S SCSI writer. I want the Plextor, but I don't know what one to get.......? Do I need to stay SCSI? Or can I go IDE, since I have an IDE motherboard? I have not kept up w/ all the advances in technology...... Any help would be MUCH MUCH appreciated! Go Rams! D ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: FS: Sony D100 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:28:12 -0800 (PST) Here is your chance to own a Mint used Sony D100. It has the same circuitry as the SBM-1, so you don't need an outboard unit. It was cleared with a clean bill of health by Sonic Sense 6/29/01 (documented if needed). Just had the drum assembly, heads, capstan, pinch roller, guide posts cleaned. The alignment was checked and the block error rates tested too. Has not been used, but once or twice since the inspection. All documentation, boxes and accessories are here too, it is complete. It is in mint cosmetic shape as well! Will consider selling the discontinued Sony 7-pin>Coax RK-DA10P cable with it for an additional cost. The cable is NOT included with the price of the auction. Here is what is included in the package: 1)Sony D100 DAT Recorder 2)Wired Control 3)2 Rechargeable Batteries and Charger 3)Black case for D100 4)Power adapter 5)Earbud Earphones 6)Original Box and instruction manual. As with any electronics, item is sold "as is". S/H is $25.00. Insurance is included in S/H price. I can accept Paypal, MO or check. Check out the pictures! Don't miss this opportunity for a great deck! A+++!!! Here is the URL- http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1324042211 I would happily cut a break for a fellow DAT-HEAD. Just give me a email and I will do what I can if there are no bids yet. Thanks for the bandwidth! Eric shmurg@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ From: "T.J. Hoffman" Subject: ULTIMATE PETER ROWAN HOME SHOW! Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:54:42 -0500 Greetings, Peter Rowan did his annual Christmas show last month. This year it was at Sweetwater in Mill Valley. Show Date 12-11-01. This show was loaded with gems and surprises: An interesting setlist--about 25 songs in all! Raglan Road, Philadelphia Lawyer, Wild Bill Jones, She Knows, Home Sweet Home, Do Right and other songs are not usually included on Peter's setlists. But then, this show was special. Guests included the Free Mexican Airforce, a Nepalese flute player and Amanda Rose Rowan on vocals. Anyone with a CDR or DAT copy.... PLEASE E-mail me direct. I have many Rowan gems to trade. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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