DAT-heads Digest #196
Contents:
Shows for sale on DAT and CD-R (Kevin Brown)
Sonia Dada (Mexminute@aol.com)
for sale:HYPER CARDIOID ELEMENT FOR AUDIO TECHNICA AT853 & 933 ("Chris.VOYNET")
Mike Keneally/Beer for Dolphins trades...Anyone? (Ethan)
Extra Black Crowes for trade (Alfred Ritter)
ISO: Dream Theater Tapers ("Tatina, Bill")
Re: it works? ("kip martin")
apogee for sale (Delano)
sorry :) here it is! (Cjyellow@aol.com)
Sony 7-pin to Coax cable FS (JH)
DAT to CD recording ("Mr. Data")
hiding tracks on a cdr (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU)
mastering beef ("david gatewood")
Rig for Sale ("Rob Stachura")
Looking for a deal on a Sony SBM-1 ("Steve Rodgers,Photographer")
Mike Gordon w/ DJ Logic: February 7 ("DRider")
RE:DAT to CD recording (Gordon Gidluck)
Slightly OT: Hoobastank 11.20.01 webcast ("Steve Mew")
ISO GD 4/27/71 CDR jewel case art (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU)
ISO info about the 5/20/01 Alan Hertz show (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU)
nevermind (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU)
From: Kevin Brown <kevin5brown@yahoo.com>
Subject: Shows for sale on DAT and CD-R
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:11:48 -0800 (PST)
I have some pristine quality shows from The Who,
Zeppelin, Purple, Sonic Youth, Nine Inch Nails,
Smashing Pumpkins, etc.
$20 per DAT. $15 per CD-R.
Full geneology of each tape included.
Email me for a list.
JUST JOSHIN'!
(Hee, hee. Couldn't resist with all the recent
posts...)
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From: Mexminute@aol.com
Subject: Sonia Dada
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:20:24 EST
Hey there guys & gals.....I'm on the hunt for superior quality live SONIA DADA shows. If you can hook up, please e-mail me at: mexminute@aol.com I've got 2,300 entries on my list to trade.
Thanks!
Mitchell
From: "Chris.VOYNET" <cvoynet@nerim.fr>
Subject: for sale:HYPER CARDIOID ELEMENT FOR AUDIO TECHNICA AT853 & 933
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:41:34 +0100
hi,
I HAVE 2 HYPER CARDIOID ELEMENT FOR AUDIO TECHNICA AT 853 & 933 to sale..
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=320&ite
m=AT853H-ELE&type=store
BOTH: 60USD+shipping
Let me know, if you're interested....
Chris
From: Ethan <reedvalve@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mike Keneally/Beer for Dolphins trades...Anyone?
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:42:37 -0800 (PST)
Looking to add to my growing list of shows of this amazing band...
YLGM
Ethan
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From: Alfred Ritter <rnrjunkee@yahoo.com>
Subject: Extra Black Crowes for trade
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:42:50 -0800 (PST)
I have these two extra Black Crowes id like to trade
for other Crowes shows.
3-8-99 Albany, NY
3-10-99 Wallingford, CT
thanks
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From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: ISO: Dream Theater Tapers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:44:35 -0700
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Dream Theater Tour Dates and Clinics
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Dream Theater 2002 European Tour Dates
Dream Theater North American Tour Dates
Japanese Dream Theater Tour Dates
Second Beacon Theater show added - 03/28/2002
Advance tickets information for Beacon Theater show
Message from Mike Portnoy about the US tour
Dream Theater tour date for Milwaukee, WI
Dream Theater "warmup" show in NYC on January 19th, 2002
Mike Portnoy clinic in Minnesota on January 5th, 2002
Pain Of Salvation opens for Dream Theater in 2002
Archives
Tour Dates Archive 2001
Tour Dates Archive 2000
Tour Dates Archive 1999
Dream Theater 2002 European Tour Dates
Updated on 11-26-2001
January 25th - UK, Manchester - Apollo
January 26th - UK, London Hammersmith - Apollo
January 28th - Denmark, Copenhagen - KB Halle
January 29th - Norway, Oslo Club - Spectrum
January 30th - Sweden, Stockholm - Hovet
February 1st - Germany, Berlin - Columbiahalle
February 3rd - Germany, Hamburg - Docks
February 4th - Holland, Amsterdam - Heineken Hall
February 5th - Belgium, Deinze - Brielport
February 7th - France, Paris - Zenith
February 8th - Germany, Boblingen - Sporthalle
February 9th - Germany, Oberhausen - The Arena
February 11th - Germany, Munich - Colosseum
February 12th - Switzerland, Bulach (half an hour from Zurich) - =
Stadthalle
February 14th - Italy, Milan - Palavobis (English)
February 15th - Italy, Rome - Palaghiaccio Marino (English)
February 16th - Italy, Bologna - Palasavena (English)
February 18th - Spain, Barcelona - Razzmatazz
February 19th - Spain, Barcelona - Razzmatazz
Of the two shows in Barcelona, Spain, Pain of Salvation will only be =
opening at the first show. The second night will be a VERY SPECIAL =
evening with Dream Theater with no opening act!
Dream Theater North American Tour Dates
Updated on 01-22-2002
An Evening With Dream Theater - World Tourbulence 2002
ORDER TICKETS AT DREAMTHEATERTICKETS.MUSICTODAY.COM
Sunday 3/3 Mexico City, Mexico - National Auditorium (tickets available =
here)
Tuesday 3/5 Monterrey, Mexico - El Escena (tickets available here)
Thursday 3/7 Phoenix, AZ - Web Theater (tickets on sale 1/26/2002 at =
10:00 am)
Friday 3/8 Los Angeles, CA - Wiltern Theater (tickets on sale 1/7/2002)
Saturday 3/9 San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theater
Monday 3/11 Denver, CO - Paramount Theater (tickets on sale 2/1/2002 at =
10:00 am)
Wednesday 3/13 Minneapolis, MN - Orpheum Theater **NEW**
Friday 3/15 Chicago, IL - Vic Theater
Saturday 3/16 Chicago, IL - Vic Theater
Sunday 3/17 Milwaukee, WI, Eagles Ballroom (tickets on sale NOW!)
Tuesday 3/19 Detroit, MI - State Theater **NEW** (tickets on sale =
1/19/2002)
Wednesday 3/20 Toronto, ON - The Docks **NEW**
Friday 3/22 Boston, MA - Orpheum Theater
Saturday 3/23 Philadelphia, PA - Tower Theater
Sunday 3/24 Washington DC - 9:30 Club (now on sale)
Tuesday 3/26 Wallingford , CT - Oakdale Theater **NEW**
Wednesday 3/27 New York City - Beacon Theater (tickets on sale =
1/9/2002)
Thursday 3/28 New York City - Beacon Theater (tickets on sale =
1/12/2002)
These shows will consists of two sets with an intermission.
There will be no support act during the US tour.
**NOTE: The 2nd nights in Chicago and NYC will be completely different =
sets from the 1st nights and will have *very special* set lists!**
ORDER TICKETS AT DREAMTHEATERTICKETS.MUSICTODAY.COM
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From: "kip martin" <onefourfive@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: it works?
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:44:36 -0500
steve said:
>wow... 20 gigs...li battery (and pwoer jack)....
>firewire/usb input (can you plug this right into a mini me?)....records
>.wavs......flashable updates
>(shn??)....and : OPTICAl INPUT!!!!!!!!!
>
>this finally looks like it might work..
excuse my ignorance, but...what is it? a laptop? archos? minidisc?
kip 'inquiring mind' martin
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From: Delano <eagle-winged-palace@home.com>
Subject: apogee for sale
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:59:34 -0500
Hie Jeff;
I noticed that you were the high bidder for the auction that you
posted to Dat-heads. I hope that you are not bidding on your own auction
at Ebay to boost the auction price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1504055530
Does anyone else think $1400 for the AD1000 is excessive given the rise of
better/more recent models?
Take Care,
Delano
http://www.geocities.com/digitaldelano/
From: Cjyellow@aol.com
Subject: sorry :) here it is!
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:43:51 EST
i guess i got so excited, i forgot to put the link in the email!!
it's the new creative labs jukebox - before any of you start laughing, read the features.....
http://gear.ign.com/articles/317470p1.html
From: JH <kc7fys@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sony 7-pin to Coax cable FS
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:11:40 -0600
I'm selling this cable. I bought it, opened it, but never needed it
because I never went Coax>D100.
It's on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327278505
Thanks,
Jonathan
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From: "Mr. Data" <avan.heyst@quicknet.nl>
Subject: DAT to CD recording
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:48:31 +0100
"Does this mean I cannot run my DAT into the digital "in" on my CD-R
machine
to burn CDs of my music? If that is the case, can I buy a sample rate
converter to connect between my DAT and my CD-R machine? What are my
other
options?"
1st: Yes, you can make a digital -copy!!- with an internal or external
sample rate converter (SRC) to CD-R.
2nd: It's beter to use a CD Recorder with an internal SRC
to make copies with DAT start id's.
3rd: BEST!!!!
Wait untill a standalone DVD audiorecorder is available on the
market
with digital i/o to make a digital -clone!- from your 48 kHz
masters.
So keep your tapes!!!
Mailto:avan.heyst@quicknet.nl
From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU
Subject: hiding tracks on a cdr
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:32:08 -0800 (PST)
thought this topic was covered awhile back, but didn't find it in the
archives...
anyway, I've started making mixedmode cdrs (data + music), so as to include
the printed label (as a pdf) and a text file (describing the disc contents),
and possibly photos from the show (depends on if they fit..) in a 'data track'
recorded at the head of a disc. So if i have have 9 audio tracks,
popping a finished cdr into my home stereo cd player gives tracks 2-10
as the show.
so far so good. the problem is that track 1 (the data) gets played by my
player...and while the resulting noise might be good for burn-in or
getting rid of late-night guests, i don't want to hear it.
Anyone know of a way to make this data track 'invisible' or otherwise
hidden from the audio cd player?
I think i can set things up so that the data track comes last (but the
default is first --- I'm using Nero to put things together...).
thanks!
-rand0m
From: "david gatewood" <daveg_8@hotmail.com>
Subject: mastering beef
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:12:01
One quick bitch directed at just a small group. I was listening to a old
Dead show yesterday that was listed as SBD RL>DAT. While listening, I
realized it was brick wall limited at -4db. I is pretty noticeable on
vocals especially when they really get yelling. Now it's great that the
show is available, but I think whoever did this (and many others, I'm sure)
should refrain from doing so. I have used compressors and all other types
of audio gear as a recording engineer, and this sounds to me like those nice
tasty reels were fed into a $200 compressor and then into the line input of
a D7 with a $4.00 Radio Shack cable. Listen to me! You are not a Mastering
Engineer!!!!! Quit doing this!!!!
If you want to transfer it properly, rent a nice compressor (if you must)
like a Manley or Tube Tech and use a high res A>D like a Weiss or even an
AD2K+. If you want it tranferred properly send it to me. I have full
access to a fully redone reel with brand new heads and can use top grade
cables and a AD2K+ and soon, a Weiss A>D. I can do several spins and do a
44.1 cd, 48k DAT and even spin a 24/96 to a drive. This particular show was
2-24-74 Winterland, and it would smoke if only a little care were used.
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From: "Rob Stachura" <preppytwo@hotmail.com>
Subject: Rig for Sale
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:40:56 -0600
want to see if anyone was interested in purchasing my rig
would like to sell the whole thing as a package all new except the D8.
Pair of AKG C1000s
Pair XLR>1/4" 15' Cables
Sony TCD-D8 (no leather pouch)
Sony SBM
Sony 7-pin Optical Cable
Oade 7-pin Active Cable
Bogen 17' Mic stand
AKG T-bar
I would like to get $1,300 for the entire setup
I only used this rig 2 times over the summer 2001.
Any more questions please email me.
Thank You
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From: "Steve Rodgers,Photographer" <lens@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Looking for a deal on a Sony SBM-1
Reply-To: lens@sprintmail.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:05:46 -0500
After many years of waiting I am finally the proud owner of a PCM M1 and
now officially a "dathead"...I'd like to get a Sony SBM-1 and since I'm
not rich I need one at a good price (if there is such a thing)...anyhow,
if anyone has one or knows where there is one (other than eBay) shoot me
an email..thanks...
Lens
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Mike Gordon w/ DJ Logic: February 7
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:45:01 -0500
Somebody PLEASE Tape this!
Phish bassist Mike Gordon will appear at the Knitting Factory in New York
on February 7, during a special evening hosted by DJ Logic. (This is one
of 28 February nights scheduled to celebrate the venue's 15th
anniversary.)
DJ Logic will kick off the show with a set of "Trios" sets -- 4 trios of
DJ Logic plus two special guests, with each group playing for about 20
minutes. Confirmed trio guests include Gordon, John Medeski, Charlie
Hunter, Christian McBride, Billy Martin, and Rob Wasserman. (More guests
TBA.)
Project Logic, DJ Logic's regular touring outfit, will perform the late
show.
Tickets are available via http://www.knittingfactory.com/
D
From: Gordon Gidluck <gidluck@swbell.net>
Subject: RE:DAT to CD recording
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:51:10 -0600
Hi Michael,
Your DAT machine will playback the tape at 48kHz. Your CDR recorder
needs the sampling rate to be 44.1kHz for audio CD's. Some CDR recorders
have a DSP which will sample rate convert the signal for you while
recording. I don't know if your machine has that or not. If it does not
you would need an box which does sample rate conversion between the two
machines. I have no personal recommendations for devices which actually
do this.
Also, another option is to do the sample rate conversion on a computer
in software. This can be a time consuming process for the absolute best
filtering, but it does produce excellent results. Some softwares can do
this realtime while recording, but you are better off quality wise in
doing the offline processing which takes longer.
Another option with a computer is to use a soundcard with an onboard
DSP. The Zefiro ZA2 was a popular ISA card which does this. There are a
few other PCI cards around which do the realtime resampling.
Gordon Gidluck
>
> From: Michael Schlesinger <schlesin@iipa.com>
> Subject: DAT to CD recording
> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:19:22 -0500
>
> I have a Denon DAT that has all my music on it, and a Harmon Kardon CD-R.
> Question: I believe some of my DAT recordings were made at 48 khz. Now I
> wish to make a master CD so I can run off CD-Rs of my music. The dos and
> donts page says:
>
> Do record at 44.1 khz if you expect your material to end up on CD. Although
> DAT's 48 khz sampling frequency theoretically gives better high frequency
> response than 44.1 khz, the real world difference is negligible. Material
> recorded at 48 will have to undergo a sample rate conversion to 44.1 khz
> prior to appearing on CD, which costs between $5O and $100 and can degrade
> the sound to a minor degree.
>
> Does this mean I cannot run my DAT into the digital "in" on my CD-R machine
> to burn CDs of my music? If that is the case, can I buy a sample rate
> converter to connect between my DAT and my CD-R machine? What are my other
> options?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael Schlesinger
From: "Steve Mew" <paragon_of_virtue@hotmail.com>
Subject: Slightly OT: Hoobastank 11.20.01 webcast
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:17:00 -0800
Was wondering if anyone else ripped this? Mines has 2 buffering
cuts, i would like to delete mine if someone else has a better
version.
http://members.tripod.com/New_Jack
Front of Bored: a deftones recording history
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From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU
Subject: ISO GD 4/27/71 CDR jewel case art
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:23:13 -0800 (PST)
hey now! dug this gem out of a pile of cds. sounds pretty darn complete...
nrps, dead, dead + beach boys...
the tracking didn't match the cover i found at www.motu.net
anyone have something that matches a four disc set, probably treed
here on datheads in the past year or two?
thanks!
From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU
Subject: ISO info about the 5/20/01 Alan Hertz show
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:26:04 -0800 (PST)
i knew a couple songs, was hoping someone else might have a partial
setlist to compare notes against.
i'm also curious to know where the setbreaks fall, and which songs
feature Les & Trey...I could guess from listening, but I'd rather hear
from someone in the know...
anybody?
-rand0m
From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU
Subject: nevermind
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:31:55 -0800 (PST)
i'm a doofus, i found the 4/27/71 labels...
bwt: i'll b&p 2-3 folks who *need* this recording...
-rand0m
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