DAT-heads Digest #203
Contents:
SRV Setlist Link ("Tatina, Bill")
Looking to but some new mikes ("Simon Wimpenny")
ISO Seven Nations (Eddie Woodward)
11-15 King Crimson B&P offer is closed ("Steve Marshall")
Regarding Nero 5.5 **DO NOT USE** ("C. Chambers")
ISO: Cibo Matto Side Projects (Matthew Thayer)
Optical to COAX (roarke)
FS: Beyerdyamic mv-100 preamp ("Kevin Hatton")
Changing Discs in portable CD-R ("Mark Baldwin")
attn (stealth) NOLA tapers (ZepMan@aol.com)
FS: Tascam DA-P1 w/ rechargable system (jakehall)
Breeders taping policy? (jvan)
Sound of Sony PCM-M1 versus PCM-R500 - please help... ("Fitz, Jason")
Need WSP Sith and Ski Tour '96 ("Mincey, Patrick")
iso JEWEL from last night in NYC (Eric Reichenbach)
MiniMe and AD2K+ ("Marc Nutter")
lego DAT tape loader ("Robert O'Haire")
ISO: source info/DAT upgrade for Edie Brickell 4/19/91 (Mark Domyancich)
DA-P1 power issues ("Degrado, Rob")
ISO Bruce Cockburn 1/6/02 KFOG Broadcast (Robert Zeien)
Lego DAT loader (Eugene Hu)
From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: SRV Setlist Link
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:19:21 -0700
http://www.willmot.com/SRV/
From: "Simon Wimpenny" <simonwim@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Looking to but some new mikes
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:22:13 -0000
Hi All
After a friend lost mySonic Studio DMS6's in Paris last week while =
recording the Gilmour gig, im looking round for a pair of decent mikes.
If anyone's thinking of upgrading and selling there used ones drop me an =
e mail with the spec if you would=20
regards
Simon
From: Eddie Woodward <EWoodward@lva.lib.va.us>
Subject: ISO Seven Nations
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:19:10 -0500
Hello. I am sorry to bother the list. I am looking for anything by Seven
Nations on CD-R. And I am always looking for anything by Cree Summer, Alana
Davis and Healing Sixes. I have plenty to trade (on CD-R). Again, sorry to
trouble the list. Thanks!
Eddie
From: "Steve Marshall" <stevem@thenightowl.com>
Subject: 11-15 King Crimson B&P offer is closed
Reply-To: "Steve Marshall" <stevem@thenightowl.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:28:58 -0600
SSIA...
Thanks,
Steve
From: "C. Chambers" <craig.chambers@mindspring.com>
Subject: Regarding Nero 5.5 **DO NOT USE**
Reply-To: <craig.chambers@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:30:33 -0500
Reading this thread between Slipkid and randOm reminded me about the BUG in
Nero 5.5 that has been so wonderfully documented by Lane Kelly, who
sometimes frequents DAT-Heads also.
http://members.home.net/lane5/Nero/NeroBug.html
In a nutshell, Nero 5.5 drops a single frame for every track it burns on
CDR. May not sound like much, but it will cause discontinuities in the
transitions between tracks. As one frame is 1/75 of a second of audio,
after a few cycles through Nero, you begin losing substantial amounts of
information.
After reading Lane's discourse on the issue, and discussing it in other
forums, it had been discovered as far back as 2 years ago. Apparently,
Ahead Software was informed as far back as then and were oblivious to
correcting the problem before it became widespread. I have since boycotted
Nero and refuse to trade with folks that use it...I actually ask. I am
really amazed at how many people still use Nero 5.5...
If you are concerned with preserving your music, I would ask too if I were
you. Only when enough people become concerned, will Ahead Software likely
"fix" the bug. I would let as many people know as possible and send Ahead
questions...like "when are YOU going to issue a bug fix for Nero 5.5??" If
you have a licensed copy, I would demand my money back if they refuse to fix
it (like that will get you anywhere :-)
Cheers!
Craig
>
> rand0m wrote:
>
> >This may be something specific to Nero...
> >Since you can set the pause between tracks to anything you like
> >(obviously, using 0 for a disc of live material), is there any
> >reason to go with DAO over TAO or vice-versa?
From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: Cibo Matto Side Projects
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:38:00 -0800 (PST)
The members of New York based Cibo Matto have be
playing in several side projects over the last year.
Has anyone taped any of these shows? Please let me
know, lots to trade. Especially looking for Smokey and
Miho. Sold out San Francisco before I got to the club.
Email me for my list.
Cheers, Matt
New for Trade:
Starsailor Fillmore 1/15/02 45m, first tape new year
McCoy Tyner Yoshi’s 01/26/02 w/ Kenny Garrett, 1st set
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From: roarke <roarke@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Optical to COAX
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:32:35 -0700
Hi folks,
I'm wondering what ways are available to take an optical cable and convert
it so I can go into a COAX input. Any help would be great. Thanks.
Adam
From: "Kevin Hatton" <kevin_hatton@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Beyerdyamic mv-100 preamp
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:16:04 -0500
Hello all,
I'm going to have to sell my beyerdynamic preamp. I've tried before and
people have backed out. I'm dropping my price to 325 or best offer. It
also includes rechargelable batteries.
If you have any questions please feel free to email me.
Kevin Hatton
UK College of Medicine
Email: kevin_hatton@hotmail.com
Pager: 859-323-3000 ext. 4144
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From: "Mark Baldwin" <coldrainandsnow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Changing Discs in portable CD-R
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:36:16 -0500
From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: RE: Changing Discs in portable CD-R
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:30:54 -0700
Hi All,
I just noticed this was bounced back to me from last week.
I mistyped the address.
>From: Adam Smith <adaml@lanset.com> Subject: Changing Discs in portable
>CD-R I'm curious as to the amount of time it will take the Marantz or
>Superscope to finalize a disc. I doubt many folks are going to want >to
>wait 2-3 minutes to eject while live recording.
Hi Adam (and All),
This was one of my big concerns when I saw the CDR300 at NAMM last week.Like
most CD recorders, you do NOT need to finalize before unloading the disc.
It takes a total of about 15 seconds to unload a disc, load the next, have
it recognized and begin recording again. This will sure seem like an
eternity at shows while waiting for it to re-load between songs.
But, hey, a little stress buzz only makes it more fun : )
Yeah, right!
Happy Recording,
Marc
I recall reading a while back that 99 min. discs were available in Asia
somewhere and that they would be available everywhere in the future.
Anyone know anything about this? That extra 19 minutes could be HUGE in a
live recording context.
Peace,
Mark
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From: ZepMan@aol.com
Subject: attn (stealth) NOLA tapers
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:09:33 EST
Jon cleary is playing the howlin' wolf tomorrow night
he doesn't allow taping (yet). you'd have to stealth
let me know if you tape please
thanks,
Marc
ps: oh i also have an apogee a/d500e for sale
BWT: first person to email me can have 2 shows from my list
http://www.gdlists.org/lists/z/zepman@aol.com.shtml
From: jakehall <iamjakehall@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Tascam DA-P1 w/ rechargable system
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:46:43 -0800 (PST)
You get:
- Tascam DA-P1 w/ it's internal rechargable battery & AC adapter
- Oade Brothers rechargable battery system w/ two batteries, recharger, and
necessary cables
- a warm fuzzy feeling inside
I get:
- $1200 or best offer
- a warm fuzzy feeling inside
The deck is in great shape. It's never been mishandled whatsoever. It has low
hours and has never been used for dubbing. The heads have been kept clean and
it has never given me one hiccup in operation. I have all of the original
manuals and packaging as well.
=====
jakehall
iamjakehall@yahoo.com
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From: jvan <jvan@bcm.tmc.edu>
Subject: Breeders taping policy?
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 00:51:38 -0600
Has anyone taped the first few shows of the Breeders on their current tour?
Just wondering what their taping policy (board access?) is this time
around....
john
From: "Fitz, Jason" <Fitz@sewkis.com>
Subject: Sound of Sony PCM-M1 versus PCM-R500 - please help...
Reply-To: jsfitz@acedsl.com
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:51:28 -0500
I just bought a new Sony PCM-R500 and compared it to the sound of my
portable Sony PCM-M1 and I feel like the M1 sounds fuller and warmer on
playback. Specifically, on the M1 there seems to be more bass, mid, and
less brittle highs than on the R500.
This is all going D->A, I have not yet compared the A->D. I assume the A->D
will be better on the R500 since it has SBM. These comparisons were done
with a DAT I recorded with the M1 - all other factors during monitoring were
equal when doing the comparison.
A few questions:
1. Is it possible/likely the D->A on the M1 is better - would it be the
converters, the circuitry?
2. Is it possible/likely the M1 is a newer production model, and the R500
has older components (I bought the M1 this fall 2001 - this R500 was new in
fall 2000 [I bought it factory sealed from someone who never used it])?
3. Is it possible/likely that the tape sounds better on the M1 because I
recorded it on the M1?
Here's my dilemma/big question:
If I am using the R500 to mix down 8-track analog recordings to - will I get
a sound that is "less full" that on the M1, or would it be "less full" just
on playback? Would it be "full sounding" during playback on the M1 if I
record it on the R500 using SBM? These are things I will test myself, but
I'm trying to get a handle on whether or not this is just a D->A conversion
issue and I should keep the R500 for A->D (mix downs), or whether or not
this will be difficult to handle in terms of getting the final sound I want
from my recordings because I won't hear what I want to on playback from the
R500. Should I get a Panasonic SV-3800 for playback - I've heard it's D->A
is better? Or just use the M1 (I bought the R500 thinking I wouldn't wear
and tear the M1 and just use the M1 for portable playback/recording)?
Thank you in advance for your advice/opinions.
Take care,
-J.S.Fitz
New York, NY
If you email me directly (much appreciated) please use: jsfitz@acedsl.com -
thank you!
From: "Mincey, Patrick" <pamincey@davidson.edu>
Subject: Need WSP Sith and Ski Tour '96
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:02:23 -0500
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From: Halfstep-2@webtv.net (Eric Reichenbach)
Subject: iso JEWEL from last night in NYC
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:24:06 -0500 (EST)
Have other Jewel and lots of Dead/Dylan/Hornsby etc to trade. Can do DAT
and CD.
Thank you
From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: MiniMe and AD2K+
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:17:20 -0700
Hi All,
The excitement that the Mini Me has created has really been fun to see. I
have only seen a few other products create a buzz like this in all my years
of taping.
I haven't been as psyched for a new toy in quite a while.
Far be it from me to want to stop anyone's enthusiasm over a product but I
think there are a few noteworthy points to consider and know about.
Apogee is NOT billing the Mini Me as having the same specs. as the AD-1000
nor suggesting that it sounds the same.
While they say it is "like a Trak2 to go," they are obviously referring to
the feature-set, NOT the specs. The specs. show at least 12db lower dynamic
range and higher THD+N.
The pre-amp and power supply have indeed been re-worked but again Apogee is
NOT saying that they are like the Trak2, they are saying the same people
designed it.
In speaking with Apogee's President, I asked several questions:
Of greatest significance...
I wanted to know why the Mini Me won't have a digital input. This is a nice
addition for those who would like to record at 24-bit and then use the Mini
Me for word length reduction to 16-bit.
I also wanted to know why they couldn't support 24-bit and 16-bit
simultaneously
for those who want to record to DAT and try their hand at computer-based
recording.
Also, like everyone, I wanted to know why they couldn't send audio out the
USB and AES/EBU or S/PDIF simultaneously.
These questions were clearly answered with "We could have done that too, but
it would have added several hundred dollars per feature."
The Mini Me was designed with a price point in mind and the feature set was
chosen to fit within those parameters and deliver features that the greatest
number of users would appreciate. Even their choice to withhold the Firewire
option has been based on price. They indicated that they could offer it NOW
but that it would be at least a $500.00 add-on. They don't want to offer
this feature when it will cost nearly 1/3 the retail price. When the cost
of the technology allow for the price to be under $200.00, they will make it
available.
While on the subject of high-end A/D converters, I had an interesting
discussion with Benchmark earlier this week.
Please understand that this is feedback from a manufacturer, who like any
other is biased in favor of their own product.
The AD2K+ price will NOT change.
While some folks see it as quite expensive, we only need to remember that
the AD-1000 listed at $3295.00 until it was discontinued in 1998. The last
few NEW units sold as DEMO units for around $2500.00
Benchmark's sentiment is that the Mini Me does not stack up as a direct
competitor to the AD2K+.
The specs. are well below the AD2K+ and this will be noticeable even at
16-bit. Then, at 24-bit, it will be very obvious.
The feature set is lacking in comparison, especially in regard to the
above issues I addressed with Apogee, and as Apogee agreed, those features
add considerably to the price.
The multiple choices of word length reduction on the AD2K+ do also add
to the price. The cost of research and development for those was
significant.
While not all users like all the settings, all users have a choice to
determine
what works best for them.
I am certain Apogee will not deliver anything shy of a very nice product but
I wanted to dispel some developing misunderstandings that I have seen posted
in various forums.
I, like many of you, will be making many comparison recordings the minute I
get
my hands on a Mini Me to use.
Happy Recording Everybody.
Marc
Marc Nutter
Sonic Sense, Inc.
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO 80210
Toll Free Phone (877) 324-4463
http://www.sonicsense.com
From: "Robert O'Haire" <plummer@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: lego DAT tape loader
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:17:04 -0500
Wonder about the future of DAT?...it is here.
http://homepage.mac.com/brother_lizardo/PhotoAlbum3.html
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From: Mark Domyancich <Harpua@revealed.net>
Subject: ISO: source info/DAT upgrade for Edie Brickell 4/19/91
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 12:39:58 -0600
Hi everyone,
I have this show on analog and I'm looking for source info and a DAT
upgrade. It's recorded from the audience and I know it's a DAUD because
there are two spots of diginoise at the beginning. It sounds absolutely
excellent.
Thanks for the space,
--
Mark Domyancich
harpua@revealed.net
http://homepage.mac.com/mtd
http://www.phishhook.com/lists/domyancich
From: "Degrado, Rob" <Rob.Degrado@voicestream.com>
Subject: DA-P1 power issues
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:49:43 -0800
hey now,
I've had a DA-P1 I bought new in August of '98 that I've used moderately and
have never had a single problem with it before. But recently I've notice
that when using it in the field with its 6volt Eco-charge battery that if I
pause>record for more than a few minutes, the "stop" button will not release
record and the power switch will not power down. No, the 'hold' button is
never engaged. I eventually have to pull the battery power plug from the
deck while powered up just to cancel the pause>record. I'm no electrician
but this sounds like bad ju-ju to me. Do I have a power issue with this
deck? Its covered under the Repair Master warrenty so should I'm thinking
about sending it in for a check up.
BTW:
SKB - 5/26/01 - Neumann TLM103>V2>M1
Oysterhead - 10/2101 - MBHO603/KA200>AD2k+>DA-P1
The Word - 1/22/02 - the Catalyst - Santa Cruz - MBHO603/KA200>MP-2>DA-P1
All three are DAT clones that were spun for trades that fell through.
From: Robert Zeien <terrapin@Stanford.EDU>
Subject: ISO Bruce Cockburn 1/6/02 KFOG Broadcast
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:47:06 -0800 (PST)
I'm looking for a copy of the 1/6/02 KFOG broadcast of Bruce Cockburn's solo
performance from 12/11/01 (at the KFOG studios). My wife was lucky enough to
be at the show, but didn't bring the taping gear. Of course, if anyone has an
aud tape from the show that would also be great. Much to trade (including some
BC) in any format...Robert
From: Eugene Hu <eugene@overture.com>
Subject: Lego DAT loader
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:50:36 -0800
Some of you might find this cute:
http://homepage.mac.com/brother_lizardo/PhotoAlbum3.html
-Eugene
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