DAT-heads Digest #217, Volume #6 Thu, 14 Feb 02 18:50:01 EST Contents: FS: Microboard dsr 1081 ("Trey Woodruff") DA-P1 4-SALE (Duncan Oldham) FS: Microtech Gefell SMS2000/M21 package (Greg) Re: matrix tapes (Alex Prestin) FS: Lunatec V2, G.P. ADC-20, etc. (Balisong13@aol.com) Re: Need advice on D-8 repairs asap (walkabout@att.net) Beware of bad seller (Michael James) Mini-Me question. ("Onno J.R. Bakker") re: XP sucks ? (no..it doesn't suck) ("Nick Georges") Fwd: MG M300s (Joshua) Portable Digital HD recorder coming...... (cjonus@mwt.net) Sneaking in a D8? ("cream of mushroom") [DAT_into_CDR] DAT transfers using a Sony DDS unit (Paul) Re: [DAT_into_CDR] DAT transfers using a Sony DDS unit (Mark Mayhle) FS: SONY DAT RK-DA10 DIGIATL COAX CABLE ("Chris And Berryman") Re: preamp help (jjjewett) "rare" reel to reel and F1 digital SRV recordings ("Ryan :-" ) Rufus Wainwright/Antony & the Johnsons Orchestra ("Robert O'Haire") Re: what's with my -M1? ("Len Moskowitz") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trey Woodruff" Subject: FS: Microboard dsr 1081 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:32:00 -0600 I am sellign my dsr 1081, please email with offers, I am looking to get around half of what I paid for it brand new. Interested parties email for more details. This is a cd duplicator, I can give more details via email. Trey ------------------------------ From: Duncan Oldham Subject: DA-P1 4-SALE Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:15:24 -0500 Hello everyone i,m selling my DA-P1,it has moderate use" new in 96,comes with a porta brace,the original battery{never used}wall wart,and a eco battery,which was new in 96"the only thing it doesn,t have is the charger for the eco battery" it always was service from pro-digital{paul}have use it once in the last year tooo many decks  will pay shipping in the US asking 850 or best offer or i,ll trade for a" Pioneer DVD Recorder" e-mail me if interested thanks.for the space........Duncan ------------------------------ From: Greg Subject: FS: Microtech Gefell SMS2000/M21 package Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:17:47 -0500 Microtech SMS2000/M21 Stereo Kit Includes: * 2 Mic Bodies (SMS2000) [serials sequential] * 2 Hyper Card caps (M21) [serials sequential] * 2 AT Shock mounts (8410a) * 2 Wind screens (Shure A81WS) * ORTF/X-Y stereo mount bar (Shure A27M) * 20' XLR Cable (combined stereo cable [2 xlr F and 2 xlr M] connectors) * Padded mic storage boxes * Original documentation as available Everything is in perfect working condition, taped 2 shows last week with them There is some normal wear and tear in various places, but these have been extremely well maintained since I bought them and they are in 100% perfect working order. Beginners: All you need is a deck (SBM) and a pre-amp and you are on your way to taping. To see images of the kit go to http://www.tikcuf.com/rig/sms2000.html All serious offers or inquiries, please contact me at gmm6797 at tikcuf.com Thanks for looking, Greg ------------------------------ From: Alex Prestin Subject: Re: matrix tapes Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:00:40 -0500 (EST) > I want to make a matrix of the soundboard and a live mic. Also I am > considering a direct soundboard feed of the guitar channel, so I can make > sure it is prominent in the mix. > [I find most board tapes pretty sterile and lacking in guitar. I think you > get lots of vocals and kick drum, but the guitar in the mix seems to be > rather low, I presume because of the natural amplification from the stage > being rather loud] Anyway, that would be four channels. That really depends on the venue and the way the sound guy's got the instruments mixed. In a small club, you might get no drums and no guitar, and a ton of vocals. Somewhere else, you might get a nice, balanced mix (this is rare in smaller venues.) > Especially since I am not familiar with mixers, especially this one, are > there any common pitfalls to avoid? Make sure you pan left and right, if you're getting a stereo board feed. If you're in a little club, you'll almost end up mixing "against" the room, using the mic to get the sound of the instruments that aren't mic'ed to the board or aren't very present in the board feed. Spend the next few days learning how to use your mixer. You don't want to do this at the venue. You *will* produce a bad tape if you haven't learned your gear at least a little. Make sure you have tons of cables; some boards have RCA outs, some have XLR, and others have 1/4" mono *OR* stereo outs. > > Are there any rules on mic placement? Try and get them as close to onstage as possible. Try and get them *onstage*. If you get there early and ask nicely (or have asked nicely beforehand), the sound guy might let you use their snake to get back to the board area, and you can go from there to your mixer. If you can't get the mics onstage, you're going to lose a lot of the unmic'ed/low-mixed sound if your mics are at the back of the room. > Should I listen through headphones onthe mixer or on the DAT deck to > monitor the recording? Doesn't matter. Just make sure you're not distorting when you come out of your board; this is more accurately done on the DAT, I guess. > Is it better to use the XLRs out from the board or 1/4 plugs? Does it have both? If so, use the XLRs. > Would a BBE Sonic Maximizer help the recording, or are those a waste of > $$$$$$?? Do post-processing after you tape, if you need/want to. It's easier to enhance a good no-nonsense master DAT than it is to fix a badly-processed one. - A.P. -- +-------------------------------+------------------+ | Take usable from unstable and | NIC: AP5514 45 | | you're left with ... NT. | http://bitey.net | | | wakko@bitey.net | +-------------------------------+------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Balisong13@aol.com Subject: FS: Lunatec V2, G.P. ADC-20, etc. Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:16:10 EST I am selling these items; used very few times to record Dave Matthews Band=20 concerts and one Tenacious D concert. Each item is in excellent condition an= d=20 has been babied for the short amount of time that it was in my care. I am=20 looking to get let go of: Lunatec V2=20 Graham Patten- Sound Pals ADC-20=20 (2)Audio Magic X-Stream 15=E2=80=99 XLR>XLR cable (2)Audio Magic X-Stream 3=E2=80=99 XLR>XLR cable Sony- Digital Coax->7-pin cable (2)Eco-Charge 6-volt battery with dual 4-pin XLRoutputs (2) Sabra-Shock Mounts Bogen-Manfrotto BG3076 17=E2=80=99=20 stand AKG km 235 stereo microphone bar Let me know if you are interested in any of the items listed. Thank you. Brian Pearson balisong13@aol.com ------------------------------ From: walkabout@att.net Subject: Re: Need advice on D-8 repairs asap Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:33:07 -0800 On 12 Feb 2002 21:40 (-0800), Stefan wrote: >My Sony D-8 portable is having problems,everything it records >is massively digi-glitched. >Can someone recomend a highly professional business >to do the repairs either: >1.Right here in S.F. Bay Area OR >2.Mail it in for repairs. >need a fast turn around for repairs,please help In SF and Oakland, try Leo's Pro Audio. In the north bay (San Rafael) try Bananas at Large. I've not used the two above, but I have friends who have, and they were satisfied with the results... maybe someone else on DAT-heads can describe their personal experience with either/both of the above. In the south bay, I use SONY's western region headquarters at 3300 Zanker Road, San Jose... 408/432-1600... 800/488-7669. ~walkabout ------------------------------ From: Michael James Subject: Beware of bad seller Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:33:27 -0600 (CST) Dishonest seller alert. Erik Kubik 810 San Marcos St Austin, TX 78702 eeksk8@yahoo.com Said he would sell me PCM-M1, and would mail it USPS priority mail COD. Said he sent it Feb 02. It is now Feb 13, with no package. Does not return phone calls or emails anymore. I'm just glad I never sent a check. Michael ===================================================== Michael R. James Oklahoma Climatological Survey [WWW]: http://weather.ou.edu/~mjames [PHONE]: (405) 325-3231 [EMAIL]: mjames@weather.ou.edu ===================================================== - If you don't like reality, watch the news instead - ===================================================== On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Michael James wrote: > > Looking for one of the two folks I saw taping the Fu Manchu show last > friday night in Lawrence. I gave my email address to one of you. Please > contact me if you're interested in trading. > > Thanks > MJ > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Michael R. James > Oklahoma Climatological Survey > > [WWW]: http://weather.ou.edu/~mjames > [PHONE]: (405) 325-3231 > [EMAIL]: mjames@weather.ou.edu > > ----------------------------------------------------- > - If you don't like reality, watch the news instead - > ----------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ From: "Onno J.R. Bakker" Subject: Mini-Me question. Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:32:53 +0100 Hi All, Is The Mini-Me (Apogee) already available in the US and were and what is the lowest price. Onno ------------------------------ From: "Nick Georges" Subject: re: XP sucks ? (no..it doesn't suck) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:18:20 -0500 Just so you know it's you and not your sound card, I run an audiophile 2496 and XP and they are just great together. XP knows what it is... and the drivers from M-Audios site work. There was no fuss w/it. You should uninstall the drivers. Perhaps even yank the card and search the registry for "audiophile" and "m-audio" and remove all mention of it. Then re-install. Keeps futzin', it will work. Having been using Winblows for a long time, I can say w/confidence that XP is by far the best thing to come down the pipe from MS in a long time. It's "hardware friendly" attitude continues to amaze me. Especially on my laptop (used for recording). I can yank cards in and out repeatedly and XP doesn't even blink! The software compatibility modes, allowing you to run a chosen program in "win95 mode" and all the other win flavors, is jut too cool. www.nickspicks.com =A0 - FAQs on live recording and digital music =A0 - Gear reviews =A0 - Music Lists (for trade) www.cablemodeminfo.com =A0 - SOHO networking product reviews =A0 - Broadband/Wireless portal ------------------------------ From: Joshua Subject: Fwd: MG M300s Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:35:50 -0700 the internet special was found at gprime.com >X-Apparently-To: sprung598@yahoo.com via web9501; 14 Feb 2002 07:20:12 >-0800 (PST) >X-Originating-IP: [65.209.132.226] >From: "brad kirby" >To: sprung598@yahoo.com >Bcc: >Subject: MG M300s >Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:20:12 -0500 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2002 15:20:12.0709 (UTC) >FILETIME=[18E84D50:01C1B56B] > >Hey, >Saw your post on DatHeads and was wondering where you are finding MG M300s >for $750 a pair? I have been looking for a good price for a pair of these >for a while. >bRAD > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: cjonus@mwt.net Subject: Portable Digital HD recorder coming...... Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:42:52 US/Central Looks to be the first I know of for portable HD recorders- Looks to be a fine start- 4 mic inputs, records a WAV file in 44.1 OR 48- has phantom power ect...... Check out the links for more info- comments/discussion? http://www.nagrausa.com/Nagra%20V%20press%20release.htm http://www.nagrausa.com/Nagra%20V%20prelim.htm ============================================= This message was sent using Midwest Tel Net Web Based Mail. http://www.mwt.net/ ------------------------------ From: "cream of mushroom" Subject: Sneaking in a D8? Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:21:02 -0800 Hi, I stealthed with a MD for years which could be nerve racking enough but I can't imagine trying to get a D8 into a show. Any suggestions??? I'm hoping to do CSNY in Portland in March. Also, has anyone had any problems with the hand wand metal detectors they sometimes use? I wanted to do Tool last year but figured it was pretty much a lost cause. Thanks oin advance, Chris ------------------------------ From: Paul Subject: [DAT_into_CDR] DAT transfers using a Sony DDS unit Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:16:45 -0800 (PST) Hello, I started transfering DATs using my friend's machine and a digital I/O card, but (of course) I broke the machine. I then realized I had a DDS drive at my work, so I brought it home today. Does anyone know how to transfer audio from DATs? It's a Sony SDT- S9000 SCSI connected to an Advansys SCSI Host Adapter on a Pentium 4 with Windows 2000 and XP. I've been searching, but DAT2WAV and VDAT both do not work (maybe it's the OS; they both give me ASPI errors). Any ideas? Anyone? Thanks a lot! Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: Re: [DAT_into_CDR] DAT transfers using a Sony DDS unit Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:15:49 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Paul wrote: > Hello, I started transfering DATs using my friend's machine and a > digital I/O card, but (of course) I broke the machine. I then > realized I had a DDS drive at my work, so I brought it home today. > Does anyone know how to transfer audio from DATs? It's a Sony SDT- > S9000 SCSI connected to an Advansys SCSI Host Adapter on a Pentium 4 > with Windows 2000 and XP. I've been searching, but DAT2WAV and VDAT > both do not work (maybe it's the OS; they both give me ASPI errors). It is unlikely (but possible) that the SDT9000 drive you have is audio-capable. AFAIK, only those made for use by SGI have audio firmware and I've never seen a source for the SGI firmware to update the drive. Sony refuses to make it available. That said, if you should be so lucky as to have an audio-capable drive, you need an ASPI layer installed to used DAT2WAV or VDAT. The Adaptec ASPI layer most likely won't install with your Advansys controller, but there are other ASPI layers out there that might work. I got a warning that ASPI should not be installed on WinXP but I did it anyway and it works fine with audio-enabled DDS drives. If you do have an ASPI layer installed, pick up SCSIPING from the DAT2WAV website to get the correct ID #'s for the DDS drive to use with DAT2WAV. -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: "Chris And Berryman" Subject: FS: SONY DAT RK-DA10 DIGIATL COAX CABLE Reply-To: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:10:29 -0500 I got this cable for my D7 mistakenly thinking I could have a coax digital out with it. So it's up for grabs on ebay!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=1333027408&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1014573832&index URL=0&rd=1 Thanks for the bandwidth. BWT: TO FIRST RESPONDER- GLEN PHILLIPS (TOAD THE WET SPROCKET) 2/24/02 NYC - DPA4060(soft boost grids)->DPA MPS6020->CANARE RCAs- >SBM-1 (line-in)48khz->D7 (to be sent upon completion of mastering) =) ------------------------------ From: jjjewett Subject: Re: preamp help Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:41:00 -0500 ================================================================ ///The Midiman/M-Audio Duo has two great sounding mics pre-amps, phantom power, dual 24-bit/96 KHz A-to-D converters, headphone monitoring, a coax S/PDIF output and a USB interface. At its price (under $300), it can't be beat. (You'll find details on our Web page.) And we'll be offering a portable power supply for it shortly. ///Len Moskowitz ================================================================ Great! So you can't use it in the field. Portable power is coming soon?? when?? You can buy a Vector Power Generator now for under $50 which will provide AC for the thing for 3-4 hours (less using phanton power). Check out the edirol ua-5. IMHO, it beats the Duo for the price (also less than $300) its dc powerable, usb powerable, and with modification can output a digital (coax) and a usb audio signal with the 24 bit rate. If your taping with a dat, then you might be better off buying a 16-bit/44.1/44.8 ADC, because the extra bits from the 24-bit machines will be truncated. If your taping with a laptop, then you stand to benefit from 24-bit ADC. Check out www.nickpicks.com for an impartial review of the UA-5 (he's not trying to get you to buy it from him!!). I use a mindprint di-port. Its a two-channel 24-bit preamp/ADC. I think it sounds great. It also has an analog line in, monitor out through RCA and headphone jack, Digital in, No USB out though. But usb sucks anyways. I feed it into a digigram sound card in a laptop and have been very impressed with the results. Its also AC, and I use the vector inverter with it. Ive never had it run out of power on me (knock on wood) and you can also use it to recharge other gear with it. I picked mine up on vector's website for around $30 on sale. I wish I would have bought more. Its also ~$300. John I hope this helped! ------------------------------ From: "Ryan :-<>" Subject: "rare" reel to reel and F1 digital SRV recordings Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:57:06 -0500 I've been propositioned to buy some "rare" Stevie Ray Vaughan recordings. Here is a summation of what I was offered... >Subject: Re: srv rare stuff >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:47:57 -0500 > >Ryan, >These are audio recordings. > >1.One is a audio reel to reel.(levis jeans commercial plus outakes, Stevie >joking and foolin around in the studio.) > >2.The other is an audio "master" of "Taxman" by SRV on F1 format. > >PLEASE READ CAREFULY, > >Sony F1 format uses hi grade profesional vhs tape for PCM digital audio. You >will need to access a profesional F1 machine to copy the audio to another >format such as CD or DAT. This shouldnt be hard to do just contact a local >TV station or profesional recording studio. > > This guy said "Both were being thrown away when a wharehouse was being cleaned and I asked if I could keep them and was told yes by the studio owner. They are authentic and original I used to be an engineer at the studio". I don't know this guy. He e-mailed me out of the blue, so I can't vouge for him at all. All I can do is tell you what he's told me in e-mail(there's some more info). I think he's looking for close to $1000 for this OR if you have a Pro Model DAT recorder he said he'd trade his stuff for that(he mentioned a Sony TCD-D10PRO2 Professional Field DAT Recorder). All too rich for my blood, so, I surely won't be the buyer. Anyone interested in this stuff, contact me offlist. And ya might wanna hurry, he said he's got a guy who already made an offer. Ryan _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Robert O'Haire" Subject: Rufus Wainwright/Antony & the Johnsons Orchestra Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:10:38 -0500 Rufus Wainwright is currently touring...go out and see him..and tape. Tonight (2/14) Rufus played Town Hall in NYC w/Antony & the Johnsons Orchestra. Wondering if anyone taped (Antony & the Johnsons Orchestra) or at any other time. Looking to trade for Rufus and Antony shows...peace. Robert -- ------------------------------ From: "Len Moskowitz" Subject: Re: what's with my -M1? Reply-To: "Len Moskowitz" Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:28:50 -0500 (EST) Nick Zuccaro wrote: > hey there, at the past few shows i've taped i've been lucky > enough to get boards - using the 1/8" mini analog input. as soon > as i plug my digi cable in, i get the dreaded 'no > input'. i have an oade passive cable and i just got a pro > digital cable but they both do it. do i > positively need an active cable to be able to recieve an analog > input and give a digi patch? or is there a way to modify my > existing cables to switch between analog and digital inputs?? The cables based on Sony's 7-Pin plug have a switch on them that tells your DAT recorder which input it should accept: analog or digital (7-Pin). We build our own 7-Pin plugs, and our 7-Pin output cable leaves the DAT recorder listening to the analog input, so maybe that's what you want. Most "Y" cables (combined input and output), including ours, are designed for digital daisy chaining, so they're usually wired to select the digital input. We could wire them otherwise if you had the need. Did this help? Feel free to ask more questions! Len Moskowitz Binaural StealthMics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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