DAT-heads Digest #224
Contents:
Sony R500 ("MMW")
divine (tom lippi)
RE: Mic shaped like human head (Eric Angel)
FS: D8 + extended warr. & Extras ("Erik Spring")
re: Mic shaped like human head (acffh)
Re: Mic shaped like human head (Paul Butterfield)
? for Drider (Alan Saferstein)
FS: Prodif Plus, d8, V2, etc. (Balisong13@aol.com)
Fw: ISO tapers in Vt, Mass and NY this week. ("Thomas Reizes")
RE: The Vines (Christopher D Gacek (gace0003@gace0003.email.umn.edu))
new (free) sound recording and real-time analysis software (Gianni Pavan)
re: unpacking tapes (BHance@BroadViewNet.com)
anyone tried the Neumann digital mic? (BHance@BroadViewNet.com)
ISO Gregg Allman & Atlanta Rhythm Section (Eddie Woodward)
Mike Doughty Tapes ("greengoblin")
Nak cm-300 question ("JEFFREY MARQUIS")
ISO: ANY Tenacious D (JamesHelgerson@aol.com)
The Old Human-Head Mic Trick... (Klay Anderson)
Help: D100, Oade Active cables, Tascam CDRW700 & startids... (Mike Deneen)
Re: Mics shaped like human head ("Jack R. Lebowitz")
Need advice please (esp. Celtic music lovers in NYC area) (Powers SF)
was this your trade ? (artood2)
From: "MMW" <mmw@happy-puppies.com>
Subject: Sony R500
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:04:06 -0600
Hey folks,
I was in the process of putting my Sony R500 up for sale. I've been out of
the whole scene for a couple of years and just recently re-subscribed to
this list to get some information and possibly sell my unit.
I was wondering what the going rate was these days for a used R500 with very
low hours. I purchased it from Masterpiece A/V a couple of years ago and
used it for about 6 months (very sparingly) as my recording deck for cloning
(had a DA-P1 as my play deck). The unit has been in storage for almost two
years. It has the remainder of the extended warranty which can still be
transferred since I am the original owner (this was purchased through
Masterpiece as well).
Can anyone, who has been up on the pricing for these units give me an idea
of what a fair price is that I should be asking for it? Please email me
directly.
Anyone who is interested in taking it off my hands feel free to email me as
well.
Thanks
From: tom lippi <tomzero@yahoo.com>
Subject: divine
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:30:19 -0800 (PST)
Hi All...
Just saw the Divine Comedy this week in San Francisco.
Is anyone else catching them this time around?
Thanks
tom
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From: Eric Angel <ejangel@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: RE: Mic shaped like human head
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:41:37 -0800
>Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone?
>
>"The B-52's show was recorded with a very odd microphone that was supposed to
>be shaped like a human head! I am not sure what this mic was called but it
>seems that it was all the rage in high end taping circles in the '70's."
That must have been a binaural recording setup: a dummy head with two
small omnidirectional microphones mounted where the eardrums would be on
a human. A recent AES (Audio Engineering Society) Journal paper describes
the many new dummy heads that have been developed recently. I have paraphrased
some of that article, and added some of my own comments below. The article is:
Minnaar P., Olesen S.K., Christensen F., Moller H., "Localization with
Binaural Recordings from Artificial and Human Heads",
Journal of the AES, Vol 49 (5), May 2001
http://www.aes.org
1) KEMAR - Knowles Electronics Manikin for Acoustic Research
good ole KEMAR has been around the longest. KEMAR has a
head, and torso. You can put small or large ears (pinnae)
on him.
Both were based on real human ear shapes. KEMAR is the most
widely used dummy head in scientific research. I believe you
supply your own mics for him. We use KEMAR extensively in my
research lab.
2) Neumann KU100/ KU80 / KU81
This is just a head, and is used more frequently
in the recording
industry. For example, you could place the head in front
of an
orchestra. When the recording is played back over
headphones,
you would hear exactly what a conductor hears. This head has
built in microphones.
http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=KU100
3) Bruel & Kjaer A/S 4100 / 4128 / 5930
This head includes a torso, and built in microphones.
http://www.bksv.com (search for 4100)
4) Head Acoustics GmbH - HMS III
This has built in microphones, and 24-bit AD converters!
It has a head and shoulders. I am not too familiar with
this, but it
looks like it is intended to be a state-of-the art
research head, and
not for general recording.
http://www.head-acoustics.de/2s-und-v/hms/P-h30-e.htm
5) Cortex Electronic GmbH - MK1
It has built in mics, amps, A/D's, and is designed for
playback
over Sennheiser HE 60 electrostatic headphones.I couldn't
find
any info about this online.
6) Aachen University - ITA & Aalborg University - VALDEMAR
These heads were developed at Univ's in Germany and Denmark,
and, to the best of my knowledge, are not
commercially available.
7) Your head! Stick some mics in your ears and stand still. Cost: free.
Eric Angel
From: "Erik Spring" <espring@calpoly.edu>
Subject: FS: D8 + extended warr. & Extras
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:02:42 -0800
The deck is still up for auction on eBay. Last I checked the highest bid was
$355. Check it out at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333495434
Feel free to email me with any questions
erik
From: acffh <morst@itis.com>
Subject: re: Mic shaped like human head
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:17:45 -0600
Yer talking about the Neumann KU100, aka "Fritz". High-quality
binaural stereo recording in a human-head-shaped object!
here is the link on neumann's website.
http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=KU100
with love from Team Neumann!
-tom
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From: Delano <eagle-winged-palace@home.com>
Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone?
"The B-52's show was recorded with a very odd microphone that was supposed to
be shaped like a human head! I am not sure what this mic was called but it
seems that it was all the rage in high end taping circles in the '70's."
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From: Paul Butterfield <paulbutterfield@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Mic shaped like human head
Reply-To: paulbutterfield@usa.net
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:16:57 -0500
Delano,
You asked, "Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone?"
Yup, it's a world class 'stereo' mic system, one of best available,
called "Fritz,"— a binaural microphone made by Neumann, model KU-100,
cost about 6k$, or rents around $200/day. And no, I don't rent it ;-)
Paul B
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Orlando (Winter Park) Florida, USA
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From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: ? for Drider
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:47:03 -0500
what is this disc you sent me? it appears as though i am to forward it
to someone else? my hieroglyphic reading skills are a bit rusty. is
this from a vine? there is no sure way of telling.
alan
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From: Balisong13@aol.com
Subject: FS: Prodif Plus, d8, V2, etc.
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:25:47 EST
I am trying to get rid of:
Prodif Plus Digital Soundcard w/ on-the-fly resampling
Lunatec V2 preamp
2 6-volt Ecocharge batteries with charger
Sony tcd-d8 Dat-corder
Each item is in excellent condition; the Prodif and D8 are particularly
pristine. Every device has been babied and been used few times to record Dave
Matthews Band concerts last summer. All serious offers will be considered and
very much appreciated. Thank you.
Brian Pearson
balisong13@aol.com
From: "Thomas Reizes" <treizes1@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Fw: ISO tapers in Vt, Mass and NY this week.
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:25:15 -0500
>Attention: Freaks, friends and member's of the new congregation.
>
>New York's UPSHOT, (formerly The Floater Concept) is doing a mini North
East
>Tour this week. If you are interested in going out to see some Great New
>Music, check em out!
>
>At times ambient, groovin', at others funky, hard kickin', hip-hoppin.
>Always tasteful. Great lyrics.
>
>Flavors of Beck and Ween (you might even hear a cover).
>
>The new line-up features solid, professional musicianship, and the
eclectic,
>creative and current stylings of Upshot and the Corduroy Killer.
>
>Always taper friendly, board patches may be available (know what you are
>doing).
>
>If anyone tapes, I would really love a copy and can provide a copy of the
>Troy show coming up this Saturday or another Upshot/Floater nugget.
>
>Upcoming dates (Shows this week!):
>
>Weds. Feb 20th @ Green Mtn College, Poultney VT.- The Gorge 9pm
>
>Thurs Feb 21 @ Front Street, 1 Front St., Farmington, Maine 9pm
>
>Fri. Feb 22nd, @ The Alehouse, Portland Maine 9pm
>
>Sat Feb 23rd @ The Ruck 104 3rd st., Troy NY 9:30pm
>
>back in NYC on Fri. April 19th @Tobacco Rd
>11pm...355 w 41st
>
>**All shows at least 2 sets***
>
>Peace, tr
>
>
>
From: Christopher D Gacek <gace0003@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: RE: The Vines
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:03:10 -0600 (CST)
I don't know if this will get out in time, but if anyone can tape The
Vines at Spaceland in LA on the 21st, I will make it worth your while. If
this gets out too late, but someone does tape them, please get ahold of
me.
Chris
From: Gianni Pavan <gpavan@cibra.unipv.it>
Subject: new (free) sound recording and real-time analysis software
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:18:12 +0100
Dear friends,
a freeware version of the sound analysis software we developed for our own
research is now available for download on the website
http://www.nauta-rcs.it . Further information on the software and on its
history can be found on the web pages of our research center at
http://www.unipv.it/cibra
The software allows hard disk recording while showing spectrogram in
real-time on any Windows PC; as it works well on notebooks with USB audio
devices, it is a great tool for field work.
We'll appreciate receiving feedback!
Gianni
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Email gpavan@cibra.unipv.it
Centro Interdisciplinare di Bioacustica e Ricerche Ambientali
Universita' degli Studi di Pavia
Via Taramelli 24, 27100 PAVIA, ITALIA
Tel/Fax +39-0382-525234 Laboratori
Tel/Fax +39-0382-526208 Segreteria
Web http://www.unipv.it/cibra
From: BHance@BroadViewNet.com
Subject: re: unpacking tapes
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:07:11 -0500
From: "scott charles" <scochar@hotmail.com>
Subject: unpacking tapes
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:00:57
ok, after you unpack a tape, how long is it ok to use before it needs to be
unpacked again? I want to unpack 10 tapes before a road trip on my home
deck and not have to do it on the M1 if at all possible. Thoughts,
opinions?
thanks, scott
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I would think it doesn't matter.
The idea is that the manufacturing equipment may put the tape on the spools
too tight or too loose. A rewind and wind in a dat deck should leave the
tension closer to what a DAT deck would expect, than before the rewind and
wind. Shaking it around during travel is not going to affect the tension
on the spool.
-Bill
From: BHance@BroadViewNet.com
Subject: anyone tried the Neumann digital mic?
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:24:57 -0500
Has anyone tried the Neumann "Solution-D"? I'd love to hear something
recorded with it. 28-bit A/D with 130db dynamic range. Polar pattern,
attenuation, low-cut, etc... all digitally controlled.
-Bill
http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=SolutionD
<http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=Solution
D>
http://www.neumann.com/infopool/mics/produkte_sol_d.php?ProdID=solution-d
<http://www.neumann.com/infopool/mics/produkte_sol_d.php?ProdID=solution-d>
From: Eddie Woodward <EWoodward@lva.lib.va.us>
Subject: ISO Gregg Allman & Atlanta Rhythm Section
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:55:56 -0500
Hello. I am sorry to bother the list. I am looking for Gregg Allman and/or
the Atlanta Rhythm Section on CD-R. I have plenty to trade. I appreciate
any help. Thanks!
Eddie
From: "greengoblin" <greengoblin@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Mike Doughty Tapes
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:38:07 -0600
I taped Mike Doughty last night (2/20) in Cleveland Ohio and the tape turned
out great. I'd like to hear from anyone else who may have taped him on this
tour or any others. I'll also B&P it on CDR for the first 5 people to
respond.
Thanks,
Michael
From: "JEFFREY MARQUIS" <jeffandmig@msn.com>
Subject: Nak cm-300 question
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:26:42 +0000
I'm thinking of buying a Nakamichi cm-300 mic from I guy online. Though I've
never own or used this mic before, I have a couple questions.
1. He's telling me he uses a AA battery for his mic. I thought the only
battery that can be used is the Eveready 206. Was there ever a different
version on the Nak 300 mic that was ever out that used a simple AA battery?
I feel like this sale maybe NG.
2. If I want to buy another Nak 300 mic, are there major differences in
sound between mic's so as if I wanted to do stereo taping that it wouldn't
sound great?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: JamesHelgerson@aol.com
Subject: ISO: ANY Tenacious D
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:43:32 EST
HELP! I'm looking for ANY Tenacious D tapes I can get my hands on. Will do B&P Or I have some Dead to trade. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!!
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: The Old Human-Head Mic Trick...
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:49:53 -0700
Delano <eagle-winged-palace@home.com>
Subject: Mic shaped like human head
asked:
> Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone?
This binaural micing scheme has been around a long time. Many manufacturers
make varying units depending on application.
Price-wise they are not for the faint of pocketbook.
The more specific term is "Aachen Head", the more generic is "dummy head";
do a Google and do some reading.
Neumann and B&K are two that come to mind; see:
http://www.neumann.com/infopool/mics/produkte.php?ProdID=ku100
and
http://www.bksv.com/bksv/?MIval=bk_view_SHTML&ID=1650
For the individual that may wish to experiment, a few companies make
in-your-ear true binaural mic sets that use ones head to complete the
package. I can provide details if interested.
Thanks!
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: Mike Deneen <brambleheart@yahoo.com>
Subject: Help: D100, Oade Active cables, Tascam CDRW700 & startids...
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:51:31 -0800 (PST)
Hello all...
I'm trying to transfer a dat to cd. I've got the tape
with start ids, a d100 with oade active cables, and a
CDRW700. The abs time on the dat is ok, I've
renumbered the start ids on the dat, the CDRW is set
to the proper input, atrack is on, as is digital
direct. The coax is connected to the 'out' port on
the oade cables. The data is making the trip from the
d100 to the cdrw, just not the start ids.
Little help? What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
-M
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From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" <jack@netspace.org>
Subject: Re: Mics shaped like human head
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:09:10 -0500
>In DAT-Heads Digest #233, on Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:52:36 -0500,
>Delano <eagle-winged-palace@home.com> wrote:
>
>
>Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone?
>
>
>"The B-52's show was recorded with a very odd microphone that was supposed to
>be shaped like a human head! I am not sure what this mic was called but it
>seems that it was all the rage in high end taping circles in the '70's."
Sounds like a binaural microphone, like the Neumann KU 100:
See, http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=KU100 .
Always wanted to see one of these "crash test dummy"-like heads at a show ;-),
J
From: Powers SF <psusp@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need advice please (esp. Celtic music lovers in NYC area)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:12:59 -0800 (PST)
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could provide some help or
advice with this particluar dilemma. Basically, there
is a Celtic instrumental band called Lunasa who's
playing Tarrytown, NY on the March 16th. They're very
talented - the "Irish jam band". They've been compared
to the Flecktones in terms of bringing new
sounds/ideas into a traditional music. Anyway, I've
been pestering the management for 2 months regarding
their taping policy. I explained many bands here in
the US allow it etc., etc. They balked for almost 2
months. Well, last week they agreed & would allow me
to tape the next show I went to as a special favor
from the band. (their record co. won't allow SBD
feeds). Problem is I don't have the equip and with the
short notice I'm finding it difficult to get anyone to
tape it.
My questions are:
1. A long shot I know but..is anyone out there willing
to tape this show? Ticket, ride, cost of taping will
come with it. Hell, I'll throw in some green beer too
;)
2. If not, any ideas on where else to possibly find
someone other than this list?
3. Can you rent this type of equipment? If so, where?
I live in the NYC area.
Please send email to psusp@yahoo.com. This is a very
special event. I don't know of any other Irish band
that has allowed this. Here are some links to check
out if you are interested.
Thanks for the help.
Sean
Lunasa website:
http://www.lunasa.ie/
Review:
The Washington Post February 11, 2000
The Bothy Band meets the Flecktones in Lunasa,
Ireland's new all-star quartet. Like the late,
lamented Bothy Band, Lunasa emphasizes flute,
fiddle and pipes in it's dazzling reworkings of
traditional Irish folktunes. As Bela Fleck's
Flecktones have with bluegrass, Lunasa manages
to marry jazz-rock bass lines and an expanded harmonic
sensibility to an older rural music. The impressive
results can be found on the all-instrumental albumn,
"Otherworld," Lunasa's first U.S. release.
The band's key member is Trevor Hutchinson, who plays
double bass, an instrument rarely seen in Irish folk
music. But his vigorous bowing and plucking make the
underlying rhythms in these jigs and reels more
muscular and obvious than ever before. Hutchinson
played in the rock band the Waterboys before joining
rhythm guitarist Donogh Hennessey in
the Sharon Shannon Band. That band's experiments in
beefing up the bottom of Irish folk music have been
taken a step further in Lunasa, where Hutchinson and
Hennessey are joined by flutist Kevin Crawford of
Moving Cloud and All-Ireland fiddler and tin whistler
Sean Smyth.
The quartet always tours with a guest piper, and Mike
McGoldrick and John McSherry handle the pipe parts on
the new album. Even on such traditional tunes as
"Lafferty's," the bass, fiddle, flute, guitar, and
pipes build a rumbling momentum as if determined to
drag Irish folk music kicking and screaming into the
21st century.
-Geoffrey Himes
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From: artood2 <artood2@shaw.ca>
Subject: was this your trade ?
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:25:43 -0800
I'm looking to contact a person who I believe is on this list about a trade
the trade was
I got
Dokken japan 1988 sbd on DAT
Brian May 1993 cds
Heart - Tradewinds nj on dat
if this is you please get back to me
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