DAT-heads Digest #224, Volume #6 Thu, 21 Feb 02 16:50:01 EST Contents: Sony R500 ("MMW") divine (tom lippi) RE: Mic shaped like human head (Eric Angel) FS: D8 + extended warr. & Extras ("Erik Spring") re: Mic shaped like human head (acffh) Re: Mic shaped like human head (Paul Butterfield) ? for Drider (Alan Saferstein) FS: Prodif Plus, d8, V2, etc. (Balisong13@aol.com) Fw: ISO tapers in Vt, Mass and NY this week. ("Thomas Reizes") RE: The Vines (Christopher D Gacek (gace0003@gace0003.email.umn.edu)) new (free) sound recording and real-time analysis software (Gianni Pavan) re: unpacking tapes (BHance@BroadViewNet.com) anyone tried the Neumann digital mic? (BHance@BroadViewNet.com) ISO Gregg Allman & Atlanta Rhythm Section (Eddie Woodward) Mike Doughty Tapes ("greengoblin") Nak cm-300 question ("JEFFREY MARQUIS") ISO: ANY Tenacious D (JamesHelgerson@aol.com) The Old Human-Head Mic Trick... (Klay Anderson) Help: D100, Oade Active cables, Tascam CDRW700 & startids... (Mike Deneen) Re: Mics shaped like human head ("Jack R. Lebowitz") Need advice please (esp. Celtic music lovers in NYC area) (Powers SF) was this your trade ? (artood2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MMW" Subject: Sony R500 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:04:06 -0600 Hey folks, I was in the process of putting my Sony R500 up for sale. I've been out of the whole scene for a couple of years and just recently re-subscribed to this list to get some information and possibly sell my unit. I was wondering what the going rate was these days for a used R500 with very low hours. I purchased it from Masterpiece A/V a couple of years ago and used it for about 6 months (very sparingly) as my recording deck for cloning (had a DA-P1 as my play deck). The unit has been in storage for almost two years. It has the remainder of the extended warranty which can still be transferred since I am the original owner (this was purchased through Masterpiece as well). Can anyone, who has been up on the pricing for these units give me an idea of what a fair price is that I should be asking for it? Please email me directly. Anyone who is interested in taking it off my hands feel free to email me as well. Thanks ------------------------------ From: tom lippi Subject: divine Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:30:19 -0800 (PST) Hi All... Just saw the Divine Comedy this week in San Francisco. Is anyone else catching them this time around? Thanks tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Eric Angel Subject: RE: Mic shaped like human head Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:41:37 -0800 >Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone? > >"The B-52's show was recorded with a very odd microphone that was supposed to >be shaped like a human head! I am not sure what this mic was called but it >seems that it was all the rage in high end taping circles in the '70's." That must have been a binaural recording setup: a dummy head with two small omnidirectional microphones mounted where the eardrums would be on a human. A recent AES (Audio Engineering Society) Journal paper describes the many new dummy heads that have been developed recently. I have paraphrased some of that article, and added some of my own comments below. The article is: Minnaar P., Olesen S.K., Christensen F., Moller H., "Localization with Binaural Recordings from Artificial and Human Heads", Journal of the AES, Vol 49 (5), May 2001 http://www.aes.org 1) KEMAR - Knowles Electronics Manikin for Acoustic Research good ole KEMAR has been around the longest. KEMAR has a head, and torso. You can put small or large ears (pinnae) on him. Both were based on real human ear shapes. KEMAR is the most widely used dummy head in scientific research. I believe you supply your own mics for him. We use KEMAR extensively in my research lab. 2) Neumann KU100/ KU80 / KU81 This is just a head, and is used more frequently in the recording industry. For example, you could place the head in front of an orchestra. When the recording is played back over headphones, you would hear exactly what a conductor hears. This head has built in microphones. http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=KU100 3) Bruel & Kjaer A/S 4100 / 4128 / 5930 This head includes a torso, and built in microphones. http://www.bksv.com (search for 4100) 4) Head Acoustics GmbH - HMS III This has built in microphones, and 24-bit AD converters! It has a head and shoulders. I am not too familiar with this, but it looks like it is intended to be a state-of-the art research head, and not for general recording. http://www.head-acoustics.de/2s-und-v/hms/P-h30-e.htm 5) Cortex Electronic GmbH - MK1 It has built in mics, amps, A/D's, and is designed for playback over Sennheiser HE 60 electrostatic headphones.I couldn't find any info about this online. 6) Aachen University - ITA & Aalborg University - VALDEMAR These heads were developed at Univ's in Germany and Denmark, and, to the best of my knowledge, are not commercially available. 7) Your head! Stick some mics in your ears and stand still. Cost: free. Eric Angel ------------------------------ From: "Erik Spring" Subject: FS: D8 + extended warr. & Extras Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:02:42 -0800 The deck is still up for auction on eBay. Last I checked the highest bid was $355. Check it out at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333495434 Feel free to email me with any questions erik ------------------------------ From: acffh Subject: re: Mic shaped like human head Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:17:45 -0600 Yer talking about the Neumann KU100, aka "Fritz". High-quality binaural stereo recording in a human-head-shaped object! here is the link on neumann's website. http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=KU100 with love from Team Neumann! -tom =--==--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: Delano Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone? "The B-52's show was recorded with a very odd microphone that was supposed to be shaped like a human head! I am not sure what this mic was called but it seems that it was all the rage in high end taping circles in the '70's." -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Paul Butterfield Subject: Re: Mic shaped like human head Reply-To: paulbutterfield@usa.net Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:16:57 -0500 Delano, You asked, "Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone?" Yup, it's a world class 'stereo' mic system, one of best available, called "Fritz,"— a binaural microphone made by Neumann, model KU-100, cost about 6k$, or rents around $200/day. And no, I don't rent it ;-) Paul B -- Paul Butterfield Audio ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Postproduction Sound Recording IATSE Location Recordist, Retired Central Florida Audio Society Orlando (Winter Park) Florida, USA ~~~~ø~~~~ "Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad." - Angela Monet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Alan Saferstein Subject: ? for Drider Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:47:03 -0500 what is this disc you sent me? it appears as though i am to forward it to someone else? my hieroglyphic reading skills are a bit rusty. is this from a vine? there is no sure way of telling. alan ==================================================== Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ From: Balisong13@aol.com Subject: FS: Prodif Plus, d8, V2, etc. Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:25:47 EST I am trying to get rid of: Prodif Plus Digital Soundcard w/ on-the-fly resampling Lunatec V2 preamp 2 6-volt Ecocharge batteries with charger Sony tcd-d8 Dat-corder Each item is in excellent condition; the Prodif and D8 are particularly pristine. Every device has been babied and been used few times to record Dave Matthews Band concerts last summer. All serious offers will be considered and very much appreciated. Thank you. Brian Pearson balisong13@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Thomas Reizes" Subject: Fw: ISO tapers in Vt, Mass and NY this week. Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:25:15 -0500 >Attention: Freaks, friends and member's of the new congregation. > >New York's UPSHOT, (formerly The Floater Concept) is doing a mini North East >Tour this week. If you are interested in going out to see some Great New >Music, check em out! > >At times ambient, groovin', at others funky, hard kickin', hip-hoppin. >Always tasteful. Great lyrics. > >Flavors of Beck and Ween (you might even hear a cover). > >The new line-up features solid, professional musicianship, and the eclectic, >creative and current stylings of Upshot and the Corduroy Killer. > >Always taper friendly, board patches may be available (know what you are >doing). > >If anyone tapes, I would really love a copy and can provide a copy of the >Troy show coming up this Saturday or another Upshot/Floater nugget. > >Upcoming dates (Shows this week!): > >Weds. Feb 20th @ Green Mtn College, Poultney VT.- The Gorge 9pm > >Thurs Feb 21 @ Front Street, 1 Front St., Farmington, Maine 9pm > >Fri. Feb 22nd, @ The Alehouse, Portland Maine 9pm > >Sat Feb 23rd @ The Ruck 104 3rd st., Troy NY 9:30pm > >back in NYC on Fri. April 19th @Tobacco Rd >11pm...355 w 41st > >**All shows at least 2 sets*** > >Peace, tr > > > ------------------------------ From: Christopher D Gacek (gace0003@gace0003.email.umn.edu) Subject: RE: The Vines Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:03:10 -0600 (CST) I don't know if this will get out in time, but if anyone can tape The Vines at Spaceland in LA on the 21st, I will make it worth your while. If this gets out too late, but someone does tape them, please get ahold of me. Chris ------------------------------ From: Gianni Pavan Subject: new (free) sound recording and real-time analysis software Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:18:12 +0100 Dear friends, a freeware version of the sound analysis software we developed for our own research is now available for download on the website http://www.nauta-rcs.it . Further information on the software and on its history can be found on the web pages of our research center at http://www.unipv.it/cibra The software allows hard disk recording while showing spectrogram in real-time on any Windows PC; as it works well on notebooks with USB audio devices, it is a great tool for field work. We'll appreciate receiving feedback! Gianni ============================================================== Gianni Pavan Email gpavan@cibra.unipv.it Centro Interdisciplinare di Bioacustica e Ricerche Ambientali Universita' degli Studi di Pavia Via Taramelli 24, 27100 PAVIA, ITALIA Tel/Fax +39-0382-525234 Laboratori Tel/Fax +39-0382-526208 Segreteria Web http://www.unipv.it/cibra ------------------------------ From: BHance@BroadViewNet.com Subject: re: unpacking tapes Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:07:11 -0500 From: "scott charles" Subject: unpacking tapes Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:00:57 ok, after you unpack a tape, how long is it ok to use before it needs to be unpacked again? I want to unpack 10 tapes before a road trip on my home deck and not have to do it on the M1 if at all possible. Thoughts, opinions? thanks, scott ***************** I would think it doesn't matter. The idea is that the manufacturing equipment may put the tape on the spools too tight or too loose. A rewind and wind in a dat deck should leave the tension closer to what a DAT deck would expect, than before the rewind and wind. Shaking it around during travel is not going to affect the tension on the spool. -Bill ------------------------------ From: BHance@BroadViewNet.com Subject: anyone tried the Neumann digital mic? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:24:57 -0500 Has anyone tried the Neumann "Solution-D"? I'd love to hear something recorded with it. 28-bit A/D with 130db dynamic range. Polar pattern, attenuation, low-cut, etc... all digitally controlled. -Bill http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=SolutionD http://www.neumann.com/infopool/mics/produkte_sol_d.php?ProdID=solution-d ------------------------------ From: Eddie Woodward Subject: ISO Gregg Allman & Atlanta Rhythm Section Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:55:56 -0500 Hello. I am sorry to bother the list. I am looking for Gregg Allman and/or the Atlanta Rhythm Section on CD-R. I have plenty to trade. I appreciate any help. Thanks! Eddie ------------------------------ From: "greengoblin" Subject: Mike Doughty Tapes Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:38:07 -0600 I taped Mike Doughty last night (2/20) in Cleveland Ohio and the tape turned out great. I'd like to hear from anyone else who may have taped him on this tour or any others. I'll also B&P it on CDR for the first 5 people to respond. Thanks, Michael ------------------------------ From: "JEFFREY MARQUIS" Subject: Nak cm-300 question Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:26:42 +0000 I'm thinking of buying a Nakamichi cm-300 mic from I guy online. Though I've never own or used this mic before, I have a couple questions. 1. He's telling me he uses a AA battery for his mic. I thought the only battery that can be used is the Eveready 206. Was there ever a different version on the Nak 300 mic that was ever out that used a simple AA battery? I feel like this sale maybe NG. 2. If I want to buy another Nak 300 mic, are there major differences in sound between mic's so as if I wanted to do stereo taping that it wouldn't sound great? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: JamesHelgerson@aol.com Subject: ISO: ANY Tenacious D Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:43:32 EST HELP! I'm looking for ANY Tenacious D tapes I can get my hands on. Will do B&P Or I have some Dead to trade. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: The Old Human-Head Mic Trick... Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:49:53 -0700 Delano Subject: Mic shaped like human head asked: > Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone? This binaural micing scheme has been around a long time. Many manufacturers make varying units depending on application. Price-wise they are not for the faint of pocketbook. The more specific term is "Aachen Head", the more generic is "dummy head"; do a Google and do some reading. Neumann and B&K are two that come to mind; see: http://www.neumann.com/infopool/mics/produkte.php?ProdID=ku100 and http://www.bksv.com/bksv/?MIval=bk_view_SHTML&ID=1650 For the individual that may wish to experiment, a few companies make in-your-ear true binaural mic sets that use ones head to complete the package. I can provide details if interested. Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: Mike Deneen Subject: Help: D100, Oade Active cables, Tascam CDRW700 & startids... Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:51:31 -0800 (PST) Hello all... I'm trying to transfer a dat to cd. I've got the tape with start ids, a d100 with oade active cables, and a CDRW700. The abs time on the dat is ok, I've renumbered the start ids on the dat, the CDRW is set to the proper input, atrack is on, as is digital direct. The coax is connected to the 'out' port on the oade cables. The data is making the trip from the d100 to the cdrw, just not the start ids. Little help? What am I doing wrong? Thanks, -M __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" Subject: Re: Mics shaped like human head Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:09:10 -0500 >In DAT-Heads Digest #233, on Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:52:36 -0500, >Delano wrote: > > >Does anyone know the name/model# of this microphone? > > >"The B-52's show was recorded with a very odd microphone that was supposed to >be shaped like a human head! I am not sure what this mic was called but it >seems that it was all the rage in high end taping circles in the '70's." Sounds like a binaural microphone, like the Neumann KU 100: See, http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/products/micProduct.asp?microphone=KU100 . Always wanted to see one of these "crash test dummy"-like heads at a show ;-), J ------------------------------ From: Powers SF Subject: Need advice please (esp. Celtic music lovers in NYC area) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:12:59 -0800 (PST) Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could provide some help or advice with this particluar dilemma. Basically, there is a Celtic instrumental band called Lunasa who's playing Tarrytown, NY on the March 16th. They're very talented - the "Irish jam band". They've been compared to the Flecktones in terms of bringing new sounds/ideas into a traditional music. Anyway, I've been pestering the management for 2 months regarding their taping policy. I explained many bands here in the US allow it etc., etc. They balked for almost 2 months. Well, last week they agreed & would allow me to tape the next show I went to as a special favor from the band. (their record co. won't allow SBD feeds). Problem is I don't have the equip and with the short notice I'm finding it difficult to get anyone to tape it. My questions are: 1. A long shot I know but..is anyone out there willing to tape this show? Ticket, ride, cost of taping will come with it. Hell, I'll throw in some green beer too ;) 2. If not, any ideas on where else to possibly find someone other than this list? 3. Can you rent this type of equipment? If so, where? I live in the NYC area. Please send email to psusp@yahoo.com. This is a very special event. I don't know of any other Irish band that has allowed this. Here are some links to check out if you are interested. Thanks for the help. Sean Lunasa website: http://www.lunasa.ie/ Review: The Washington Post February 11, 2000 The Bothy Band meets the Flecktones in Lunasa, Ireland's new all-star quartet. Like the late, lamented Bothy Band, Lunasa emphasizes flute, fiddle and pipes in it's dazzling reworkings of traditional Irish folktunes. As Bela Fleck's Flecktones have with bluegrass, Lunasa manages to marry jazz-rock bass lines and an expanded harmonic sensibility to an older rural music. The impressive results can be found on the all-instrumental albumn, "Otherworld," Lunasa's first U.S. release. The band's key member is Trevor Hutchinson, who plays double bass, an instrument rarely seen in Irish folk music. But his vigorous bowing and plucking make the underlying rhythms in these jigs and reels more muscular and obvious than ever before. Hutchinson played in the rock band the Waterboys before joining rhythm guitarist Donogh Hennessey in the Sharon Shannon Band. That band's experiments in beefing up the bottom of Irish folk music have been taken a step further in Lunasa, where Hutchinson and Hennessey are joined by flutist Kevin Crawford of Moving Cloud and All-Ireland fiddler and tin whistler Sean Smyth. The quartet always tours with a guest piper, and Mike McGoldrick and John McSherry handle the pipe parts on the new album. Even on such traditional tunes as "Lafferty's," the bass, fiddle, flute, guitar, and pipes build a rumbling momentum as if determined to drag Irish folk music kicking and screaming into the 21st century. -Geoffrey Himes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: artood2 Subject: was this your trade ? 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