DAT-heads Digest #229, Volume #6 Mon, 25 Feb 02 17:50:00 EST Contents: FT: adrian belew and the bears , 2-23-02 NYC (mike hooker) Royer SF-12 or Neumann USM-69 ("Onno J.R. Bakker") Royer SF-12 or Neuman USM-69 (Paul Tumolo) FS: SBM-1 & 7-pin digital cable ("Paul deLima") RollinsBand in Bawlmer ("michael") CSN&Y info ("sean stevens") put my Turtle Beach Fiji up for sale (31st330i@roadfly.com) equip. for sale (kristi jo) SCSI card ISO (JH) London Wavelengths BBC Rock Hour (Delano) George Harrison ("Larry J Abballe") del mccoury band taping (Blackpete@aol.com) : George S. (Eric Eckberg) ISO: Oade active 7-pin cable ("bpkelley") FS: High End Biaural Microphones (Phillip Busteed) D8 High/ Low Mic sensitivity question ("cream of mushroom") Creative Labs Extigy ("Brian \(Pink Floyd\)") FS: Bobby McFerrin Tix for Philly - 3rd row April 7, 2002 ("Jeremy Moskowitz") csny@dc and abb@nyc tix for sale at cost ("John R. Vanderpool") ISO: Mic Pre-Amp (Dennis Bryant) ISO: (hate to admit what I'm looking for) (Chris) Brand New Oade 7-pin for auction (kadie renner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mike hooker Subject: FT: adrian belew and the bears , 2-23-02 NYC Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:48:36 -0500 hi, taped adrian belew and the bears last nite at the mercury lounge in NYC. great show, one cavaet about the recording. i had planned on recording the opener, but got there late, just in time for the bears start. i had put a short tape in for the opener and in the rush to get taping, forgot . the merc lounge is tiny, and easy to get busted taping in,so i didnt take any chances swaping tapes or even setting the 32k switch.. luckily, i used a minidisc as a backup, so the end of the gig is MD, not DAT. i wont say where the MD starts, that for you to decide :). anyone who wants it, let me know. i'd be very interested in belew acoustic boots . please see my music trading page: New URL http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html have fun, mike hooker ------------------------------ From: "Onno J.R. Bakker" Subject: Royer SF-12 or Neumann USM-69 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:06:25 +0100 Hi I have two Royers 121 ribbon mikes and one SM 69 (fet) Neumann mike. I use the two Royers always in blumlein ( the sf 12 does have two ribbons in one case placed in blumlein situation) The sm69 I use mostley in xy with a setting between omni and cardioid. I record only classical music (mostley piano and violin). Ihmo the sound quality of both systems is exellent but the stereo picture of the Royers is better than the SM69. Shortley said in the stereo picture you "see" the instruments and they stay where the are from high to low. With the SM 69 they walk a little through the picture. Most people who are listening to the recordings like more the Royers. They like the clear and total open sound. I record only classical music, mostley piano and violin. I suggest you not to buy the sf 12 but to buy two 121's. Sometimes you need one ore two separate figure 8's !! The only thing is that you have to make something special to place the 121s on top of each other to get the blumlein. If you want to buy the Neumann go for the sm not for the usm. the sm has the separated powersuply with the settingsknobs on it. That allows you to control the mike (from fg 8 to omni) from distance. Onno ------------------------------ From: Paul Tumolo Subject: Royer SF-12 or Neuman USM-69 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:34:20 -0800 (PST) oh boy, these are like boysenberries and rasberries. two completed different flavors, but both are excellent for certain purposes. i have used the royer and i own the neumann (although if i had more call for the type of thing the royer does, and if i had more doe, i'd own both). both of these are mics with a sonic signature. neither is what i would describe as flat. if, like most tapers, you seek a mic which is flat (ala the B&K 4006 or 4011 or certain schepps), neither is going to float your boat (although the USM would come closest). the royer is richer sounding and has a smooth, but rolled off top end. the neumann is more detailed, and clear, with a more extended top end that is slightly raising and a slight roll off of the extreme bottom (both of which can be altered by someone like klaus heyne, but klaus ain't cheap, about 2grand for the above mentioned mod). the rising high end can be a good thing, for example, when recrding at a distance it helps compensate the high end roll off caused by air absoption. in fact, the high end raise was used in the USM by neumann at the request of the german broadcast network for use in recording symphany orcastras at the usual concert hall distances. the royer has a larger proximity effect, but at a distance has a similar low end rolloff. the proximately boost can be nice when using just one "side" of the SF-12 to record a guitar amp (gives a nice body effect). i have directly compared both as drum overheads and as top end leslie mics. the royer was very nice on drums for a classic jazz sound, the neumann for a more modern sound. on leslie, the royer yielded a darker, less intense sound, good for blues and background textures, and the USM yield a nice bright high end to counter balance a deep low ended leslie- good leads for most rock. my main use of the USM is for things like studio recording of acoustic guitar (both S/M and coincident), congas, resonator guitar (of various kinds) and things of that nature. if isolation is not a problem, it works quite well on difficult things like accordiene and banjo.when i want a stereo pair of tracks and a little room ambience. i have also used it for vocals on occasion. if you are thinking about S/M, i would not recommned either for your typical FOB, hockey ring recording arena rock band. i'd pick the USM if i was doing a coincident pair from the same FOB spot (both the low end and high end are more appropriate for this type of situation- high because of air absorption, low because such spaces tend to be dark already). if you are going to mic acoustic sources from near or on stage, or taping rock bands using on stage placement (some bands allow this), then you are going to have to decide which flavor you want, as i said, neither is flat and both have distinctive personalities. As you can see, i am very enthusiastic about stereo mics and, in particular, S/M recording. If i had the money, i'd love to have an excellently maintained $8,000 vintage tube SM-69 or C-24. but be forwarned, recording with a stereo mic is very deceptive in its apparent simplicity. coincident techniques, and S/M in particular, require a very subtle hand, a very finessed technique. but if you are after simplicity, an easy set up which almost always yields a very good recording, i'd go with near coincident cardiods (ORTF and variations thereof). it is a more forgiving technique, important when time and access is short. ------------------------------ From: "Paul deLima" Subject: FS: SBM-1 & 7-pin digital cable Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:20:37 -0500 Since I have cut way down on my taping as of late, I have decided to sell off some gear. I have two items for sale: One Sony SBM-1 A/D converter (with “line-in” modification by Doug Oade) One Oade Bros I/O “Active” digital cable (for use with Sony M1, D100, D8 etc.) I purchased this modified SBM-1 (new) in Sep 2001 from the Oade Brothers. The “line-in” modification was performed Doug Oade. This modification increases the resolution of the SBM-1 from the standard 20 bits to 24 bits. (The SBM-1 uses an algorithm to output a 16 bit digital signal.) This modified SBM-1 has the two standard SBM-1 digital outputs (one seven pin female & one seven pin male.) I have used the SBM five times with great results. It has not been used since mid-December 2001 & has been kept in a zip lock baggie in a drawer. The SBM-1 is in excellent shape with no scratches, marks etc. I have all the original accessories, paperwork and packaging material. The cost of the SBM-1 was $400 & the modification was an additional $250. The Oade “Active” Digital cable was also purchased (new)in Sep 2001. I have used this cable (in conjunction with the SBM-1) five times with great results. The cable is in excellent shape. I have the original receipt, which I will include with the cable. (There was no literature or “official” packaging materials with this digital cable.) The cost of this digital cable was $155. I am not sure what these two items are worth at this time, since they are no longer being sold. If you are interested, please make an offer. I would prefer to sell these items as a package (i.e. buyer takes both the SBM-1 & the digital cable.) Preference for the sale goes to the individual who is willing to expedite the transaction quickly. Buyer to pay all shipping/insurance costs. I live in NY State. Please direct all offers/inquiries to: pdelima@dreamscape.com Thanks, Paul _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "michael" Subject: RollinsBand in Bawlmer Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:12:22 -0500 Anyone out there in Datland have any experiences taping RollinsBand? I was thinking about seeing them tomorrow in Baltimore and was curious as to what to expect showing up with gear in hand thanks- michael ------------------------------ From: "sean stevens" Subject: CSN&Y info Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:25:53 -0500 Hey there- Has anyone been taping CSN&Y? I'd love to hear set times, etc. I'm going to tape a show soon. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks for the time, Sean ------------------------------ From: 31st330i@roadfly.com Subject: put my Turtle Beach Fiji up for sale Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:43:43 -0500 I know some of you may be interested in this. I put my Fiji (with digital I/O) up for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2005567409 on a related topic, I also put a Yamaha DB50XG MIDI daughter card up on the block as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2005566049 sorry if this is considered a spam but I thought other list members would be interested in the card since it has digital I/O. _________________________________________________________________________ Live, laugh, and chat with friends about BMWs, Porsches, Jaguars and the new MINI at The World's Largest Auto Enthusiast Site http://www.roadfly.org/ ------------------------------ From: kristi jo Subject: equip. for sale Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:12:47 -0800 (PST) schoeps cardioid capsule $560. 2 15ft excalibur II cables $400 2 3ft excalibur II cables $200 AES/EBU excalbur II cable $80 shipping & insurance is not included in pricing. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: JH Subject: SCSI card ISO Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:45:12 -0600 Hi DATheads, I'm looking for a SCSI card that has a 68-pin high density plug and 50-pin as well--similar to the Adaptec 2940U2W. Mine is shot, and I need another similar to get my DAW up and running again. If you have a pull that you want to sell or know of a hot deal on a new one, drop me a line. Thanks! Jonathan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Delano Subject: London Wavelengths BBC Rock Hour Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 01:57:35 -0500 Does anyone have copies of the "London Wavelengths BBC Rock Hour" broadcasts? If so, can you please contact me? I am specifically looking for an upgrade of my Sea Level 9/23/80 (Boston's Paradise Theatre) - But if the selection of concerts for the BBC Rock Hour was this good, I would like to get others. In addition, this show seems to be about 2 hours (unlike the US 1 hour FM shows). Take Care, Delano http://www.geocities.com/digitaldelano/ ------------------------------ From: "Larry J Abballe" Subject: George Harrison Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:39:39 -0500 Hi All, I'm looking for two Harrison radio shows that were done after the release of "Live in Japan" which was in 1992. They were "In the Studio" and "Rockline". Does anyone have these? Thanks, Larry ------------------------------ From: Blackpete@aol.com Subject: del mccoury band taping Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:54:43 EST Anyone have recent experiences taping Del? I've heard varying reports, from tolerating but not encouraging to downright banning taping. Thanks, Marc. ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: : George S. Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:19:33 -0800 (PST) I cannot reply to your email, I get a failure notice back. Re: 250+ tape offer shmurg@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "bpkelley" Subject: ISO: Oade active 7-pin cable Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:46:55 -0700 Does anybody out there wish to part with a spare Oade active 7-pin cable? I called the Oade Bros. and they only have the passives, which I hear has been the case for a while. I've been without my original active cable since 4/18/01 when some bastard swiped mine! So the only way I will probably get another one is to post to DAT- Heads or look on ebay. If I do an ebay search, what should I put? "RK-DA10P"? I can't remember the exact alphanumeric name of it. Is that right? I prefer an active cable that is still in very good working condition and is able to pass a steady, streamin' digi-signal to an M1. Hours of use is no biggie, as long as it works fine. Please, no bunk cables! I can be accepting of price within reason. Thanks for your time. Peace and music, Brian ------------------------------ From: Phillip Busteed Subject: FS: High End Biaural Microphones Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:14:58 -0800 (PST) Purchased from Core Sound a couple of years ago. These mics have seen little use. They come with a battery box (w/ switchable bass filter), wind screens, and alligator clips. They sound great and they are in excellent condition. I'm heading back to school and I have little use for them. I would rather see them go to someone who would use them. I purchased them for $1000 but I'm very willing to negotiate. Make me an offer! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "cream of mushroom" Subject: D8 High/ Low Mic sensitivity question Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:48:12 -0800 I've always been told to set the Mic sensitivity to low, but the other night I taped the first set of YMSB with it on high. I thought it seemed weird that the recording level was only at "3" or "4" instead of "7" or "8". Does that make sense? It also seems that the first set sounds just a bit crisper than the second. Anyone have input or suggestions? I was using NAk Cm300 (cp1)>D8. Thanks again, Chris ------------------------------ From: "Brian \(Pink Floyd\)" Subject: Creative Labs Extigy Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:35:34 -0600 Anyone have any info on this thing? Interested in using it for recording shows with my laptop ... I have been using a D7 for a while, but recently got a laptop and wondered if this thing is any good. I have read things about the SB Live resampling and dropping bits, etc, so I turn to the experts for advise ... Thanks, Brian _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ From: "Jeremy Moskowitz" Subject: FS: Bobby McFerrin Tix for Philly - 3rd row April 7, 2002 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:50:41 -0500 Hi fellow DAT-heads... I wanted to make these tickets available to fellow DAT HEADS who might actually want to go and tape this show (and give me a copy!). So.... I have two tickets -- Sunday April 7, 2002 3rd-freekin-row in the Orchestra for BOBBY McFERRIN Price $47.00 each x 2 = $94 Let me know if you are interested in the tickets and if you will be taping the show so I can get a copy. Please let me know ASAP. Thanks. -Jeremy Moskowitz jeremym@boutell.com ------------------------------ From: "John R. Vanderpool" Subject: csny@dc and abb@nyc tix for sale at cost Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:29:23 -0500 (EST) CROSBY STILLS NASH AND YOUNG MCI CENTER Washington, DC Friday, Mar 8 2002 8:00PM Seat Location (SECTION 109, ROW O, SEATS 7 TO 8) Total Charge $204.25 (2 tix) or (i haven't made up my mind yet which i'm keeping, also i could give up three tix in sect 109 if that is what is needed) Seat Location (SECTION SEC 1, ROW X, SEATS 11 TO 12) Total Charge $204.25 ================================================= ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND BEACON THEATRE New York City Saturday, Mar 23 2002 8:00PM Seat Location (SECTION LOBALC, ROW D, SEATS 36 TO 38) Total Charge $113.68 (two tix) ================================================= p.s. caught csny@nyc on friday nite and it was a real nice show, i didn't tape though - hopefully many people are capturing the tour on tape! (i wonder why they didn't release the 2001 tour DVD? maybe they will do one of 2002 if they are happier with it) -fish ------------------------------ From: Dennis Bryant Subject: ISO: Mic Pre-Amp Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:40:35 -0800 (PST) Hey folks, In the market for a used Pre-Amp. Preferably a good MP-2!! I had one lined up but seller backed out do to good reason. So Im in the market again. If anyone could send some my way I would apreciate it... Thanks for your time... My rig is: MC012's>????>SBM-1>D100 Peace! Dennis dirtybiz420@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Chris Subject: ISO: (hate to admit what I'm looking for) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:09:50 -0800 (PST) My sister-in-law LOVES Linkin Park, and she knows I collect/record shows... Anyone with a LP show? I'll take anything decent sounding, but would prefer (if given a choice) the Long Beach, CA show that was on Friday, Feb 22, 2002. Lots to trade or B&P... Also, still in search of Madonna Sept 15th 2001 (Staples Center Final Show) and any Tenacious D. BTW: B&P of any 1 of the 3 U2 shows I taped (Nov 13, 18, 19) for first digester to ask, once this hits my email box. SHN or Audio CD only. (Unidecker here) -Chrisedge __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: kadie renner Subject: Brand New Oade 7-pin for auction Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:53:30 -0800 (PST) Please see item number 1335584305 or the link is: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1335584305&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1 I bought the cable a while ago as a back-up but never ended up using it. Still sealed in the original packaging. Take care- kadielovesphish@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************