DAT-heads Digest #289
Contents:
FS: Practically new MBHO 603/KA200N matched pair ("Clingan, John \(CAP, CORP\)")
Re: M1/D100: display error rates? Alignment drift: how fast? (Jeff Lester)
Sound Devices 442 field mixer? (Dave C)
FS: SCI AtlantaTapers Tix ("DRider")
Paul Westerberg Tour Dates/NYC Info (See Notice Below) (David_Olstein/NY/DEWEY@deweyballantine.com)
need help from a norwegian :o) ("dc")
iso: hound dog taylor shows (avps)
To Trade: Shakedown Street Studio Outtakes (JPollQs@aol.com)
treasure trove of Widespread masters available FT (Peter King)
CDWave resampling sounds grainy and weird. Use Goldwave or (JH)
LONESOME BOB TAPERS WANTED ("eD")
Re: Nomad Jukebox 3(#288) (GuySonic@aol.com)
GERMAN tapers needed (dredg tour dates) ("Steve Mew")
live shows ("vze2364m")
From: "Clingan, John \(CAP, CORP\)" <John.Clingan@gecapital.com>
Subject: FS: Practically new MBHO 603/KA200N matched pair
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:12:40 -0400
I'm sure this time...I'm selling my pair of MBHO mics.
I bought them new from Sonic Sense in May 2001 for ~$1200. Since then I've babied them during the 20 or so shows I taped with them. Now I'm looking to get $900 for the pair. Make
an offer...
**If you're buying them as your first pair of mics, I'll throw in my pair of audio magic x-stream cables for good luck.**
Thanks for the b/w. Have a nice day-
John
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.sp.trw.com>
Subject: Re: M1/D100: display error rates? Alignment drift: how fast?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:15:01 -0700 (PDT)
Dave C <dlc-dat@halibut.com> asked:
>I searched the archives for a while, but couldn't find what I was looking
>for:
>
>How can I display the error rates (and is there a runtime counter?)
>on the M1?
Can't (for either question). Maybe some diagnostic mode where you open it
up and probe it, but certainly nothing on the display.
>I don't have a record of the usage, but I've only got a stack of about
>15 tapes that I've recorded on, and would probably played back each one
>once or twice to dump to hard disk, so probably have around 100 hours
>on the heads.
Shouldn't be giving you problems yet, no. But it's still under warranty,
time to send it in.
-Jeff lester
From: Dave C <dlc-dat@halibut.com>
Subject: Sound Devices 442 field mixer?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:22:50 -0700
OK, I'm just dreaming here, something like this is many moons
away financially, but I was wondering...
Has anybody tried the Sound Devices 442 field mixer yet? How are
the mic preamps? It seems like this might be just the ticket
for mixing a board mix and a pair of mics (provided the mics were
close enough that the delay wasn't a problem). Or setting up
a Decca tree or other tricks.
It sure looks mighty purty :o)
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@attbi.com>
Subject: FS: SCI AtlantaTapers Tix
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:24:04 -0400
Hey Now!
I have been stuck w/ 2 tapers tix for SCI 420 & 421.
I really can not afford to eat these tix!
I will be leaving at NOON Friday 4/19/02 for the John Scofield show at the
Variety.
If interested, please get in touch.
Happy 420
D-Rider
From: David_Olstein/NY/DEWEY@deweyballantine.com
Subject: Paul Westerberg Tour Dates/NYC Info (See Notice Below)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:28:26 -0400
Paul Westerberg, who did not tour behind his last album, is doing a very short "record store" tour for his latest. Here are the tour dates:
April 22 - Seattle, WA @ Easy Street Records - 7:30 PM
April 23 - Portland, OR @ Music Millenium - 7:00 PM
April 24 - San Francisco, CA @ Virgin Megastore - Show time
is TBD
April 25 - Los Angeles, CA @ Amoeba - 7:00 PM
April 28 - New York, NY @ Virgin Megastore (Union Square) -
6:00 PM
April 29 - New York, NY @ Late Show with David Letterman -
Set your VCR for 11:35pm
April 30 - Philadelphia, PA @ Tower (Ave of the Arts) - 7:00
pm
May 1 - Boston, MA @ Virgin Megastore - 7:00 PM
May 2 - Chicago, IL @ Virgin Megastore - Show time is TBD
May 3 - Austin, TX @ Waterloo - Show time is TBD
May 4 - Ann Arbor, MI @ Borders - 6:00 PM
You should contact the record store for more info. For the show at the Virgin Megastore (Union Square), you have to pick up a VIP pass in order to
attend. These will be given out when the album first goes on sale, on April 22nd.
I don't know if Westerberg has a taping policy, but I don't think the Replacement were taper friendly.
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From: "dc" <oneline@bellsouth.net>
Subject: need help from a norwegian :o)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:51:58 -0400
looking for some help from a norwegian taper:
"sigur rós' set at the quart festival (july 4th 2001) in norway, will be
broadcast on the norwegian station nrkp p3, on april 30th"
unfortunately, i dont know the time. any help is greatly appreciated.
there's a very good chance the show will quickly be encoded to mp3 by many
sigur rós fans so i'd love to get a pure digital copy if possible.
thank you,
dan
b/w tax: SHN upload of sigur rós 10/04/01
From: avps <avps@erols.com>
Subject: iso: hound dog taylor shows
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:08:26 -0400
not sure if any exist. i have lots of others stuff to trade. lots of
masters. thx dr
From: JPollQs@aol.com
Subject: To Trade: Shakedown Street Studio Outtakes
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:12:07 EDT
I just received nice copies of these Grateful Dead studio outtakes from the
Shakedown Street album sessions if anyone is interested. That album never
appealed to me that much but theres some cool stuff here, including an
interesting early instrumental version of I Need A Miracle with Lowell George
playing slide guitar (It definitely isn't Bob!).
Will take two B&Ps and as many trades as I can handle. Into Jerry/Merle, old
Dead, Dylan and open to suggestions. Send a list if interested in trading.
Stu
GRATEFUL DEAD
SHAKEDOWN STREET Session Outtakes
Club Front Studio
August 1978
Disc 1:
1. I Need A Miracle (w/Lowell George)
2. France #1
3. France #2
4. From The Heart Of Me #1
5. From The Heart Of Me #2
6. Serengetti
7. Shakedown Street (demo jam)
8. Shakedown Street
9. Stagger Lee
10. Untitled Jam
Disc 2:
1. Good Lovin #1
2. Good Lovin #2
3. Good Lovin #3
4. Good Lovin #4
5. Good Lovin #5
6. All New Minglewood Blues #1
7. All New Minglewood Blues #2
8. All New Minglewood Blues #3
9. Fire On The Mountain->
10. If I Had The World To Give
From: Peter King <sleepypedro@yahoo.com>
Subject: treasure trove of Widespread masters available FT
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
hi, a friend of mine asked me to post this. if
interested, please respond directly to the email
address in the body of the mail, not mine. thanks.
--- !m! ---
I have 160+ Widespread Panic DATs (sorry no list)that
I inherited and want to trade for blank CDs of good
quality. The shows date from The Inferno, Steamboat
Springs CO in 1989 to late 1998 or 1999. Most are
boards or really clean auds. The taper was close with
the band and usually plugged in. Anyway, if you or
anyone else you know might be interested, please let
me know. I would trade them for the equivilent value
in blank cds (spindles are just fine for a better
value)--about 3 per tape (negotiable) It can be a
great deal for someone. I also have some Phish and SCI
DATs I can add on if interested. I would prefer to
trade all at once. First come, first serve! Respond to
zunsterama@yahoo.com
--Glenn
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From: JH <kc7fys@pro-ns.net>
Subject: CDWave resampling sounds grainy and weird. Use Goldwave or
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:16:14 -0500
>>>>>From: Thomas Wulf <TaWulf@wulfware.de>
>>>>>Subject: Re: Need help resampling 48k>44.1k
>>>>>Reply-To: Thomas Wulf <TaWulf@wulfware.de>
>>>>>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:06:26 +0200
<<<is there a cheap solution?
<< With the 48khz file open in CDWave, you can save it as a 44.1 khz file.
I have noticed this convertor sounds particularly bad in version 1.7. I
wrote the developer, because I use this software every day, and it's well
worth the registration price of only 20$. But I use Goldwave for
resampling. I haven't noticed any discernable difference in sound.
<You MUST resample (using Cool Edit or Soundforge for
<instance) when going to 48>44.1kHz...there is no quick fix to that.
Jonathan
From: "eD" <lileddie@attbi.com>
Subject: LONESOME BOB TAPERS WANTED
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:12:17 -0400
I am major league looking for anyone taping him and will trade 3 to 1 off of
my extensive tradelists for any live Lonesome bob...i will be taping him in
Cambridge...please contact me if you are able to tape any shows...schedule
is as follows...thanks...ed
April 23rd: Smith's Olde Bar, Atlanta, GA
May 2nd: Davey's Uptown Ramblers Club, Kansas City, MO
May 3rd: Fred's Music Lounge, St. Louis, MO
May 4th: Club Cafe, Pittsburgh, PA - Opening for Bill Kirchen
May 9th: Schuba's, Chicago, IL - with Hadacol
May 10th: FitzGerald's, Berwyn, IL - with Jay Bennett
May 15th: The Garage, Winston-Salem, NC
May 16th: Westville Pub, Asheville, NC (828-225-9782)
May 17th: Southgate House, Newport, KY - Opening for Robert Earle Keene
May 18th: WDVX CAMPERFEST, Knoxville, TN
May 22nd: tba
May 23rd: Rodeo Bar, NY, NY
May 24th: Iota, Arlington, VA
May 25th: tba
May 26th: The Loft @ Studio D, WDVR in Sergeantsville NJ
June 1st: Hellcountry Presents...,The Kendall Cafe, Cambridge, MA
June 5th: tba
June 6th: Twangfest,The Duck Room at Blueberry Hill, St. Louis, MO
June 7th: tba
June 8th: The Zoo Bar, Lincoln, NE
June 9th: The Omaha Blues Society Blues Cruise, Omaha, NE
"The Future's Uncertain and the End is Always Near"........Jim Morrison
"I'll tell you this man, all I want to do is have my kicks before the whole
shithouse goes up in flames."......The Lizard King
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re: Nomad Jukebox 3(#288)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:43:36 EDT
In a message dated 4/17/02 4:04:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net writes:
<<
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From: SWG <scottgoodwin@comcast.net>
Subject: Nomad Jukebox 3
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:37:58 -0400
A few days ago I said I was looking for a stealthy non-DAT recorder. I
think I've found one. 20 GB ( = 35 hours) hard drive with analog input that
records to wav. Still not sure if I'll need a mic preamp (but I'm assuming
I will). Retail is $399 and they ship this month...
Anybody know what kind of input this thing expects? Any good reasons why I
shouldn't get one?
Anybody got a circuit diagram for a simple mic preamp?
Just wondering -
SWG
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>>
Good Subject with some heavy issues.
This is a great portable CD size'd product with tons of storage, USB DIGITAL
AUDIO input & output (very important feature) and can run on internal &
external batteries for many hours. Provides quality headphones output &
(so-so?)Dual Line level outputs.
More interesting is the Nomad DOES HAVE a line input with internal A/D for
directly recording to the hard drive, BUT this is with no level controls or
(VU) indication(!). Although E-MU processing technology is likely inside as
is reflected by at least the excellent sounding headphones output, the
quality of the A/D is suspect to be somewhat mediocre for good reasons.
That reason is evident in virtually ALL consumer-prosumer video/audio
recording products from companies that can ill afford the THREAT OF
LITIGATION that ensues if PORTABLE (and most computer products are produced
with direct DIGITAL AUDIO (to portable or computer hard disc) RECORDING as
turnkey FEATURE.
Word has it: IF ANY manufactured product is FOUND JUST ONE STEP BACK from
full turnkey HIGH-QUALITY audio digital file disk recording, THE RESPONSIBLE
MANUFACTURER/MARKETER IS GOING TO FACE THE 'MUSIC,' or so it now seems.
This may be the MAIN REASON there is such A STRUGGLE existing today getting
DIGITAL AUDIO INTO ALL OFF-THE-SHELF COMPUTER SYSTEMS WITHOUT SOME SORT OF
(i.e., resampling/lossy compression) DEGRADATION.
BOTTOM LINE for DAT HEADS: THERE WILL BE NO products available providing
nonprofessionals (or even professionals when compact size matters) with small
and long running mic/line to digital AUDIO recording ability/
THIS IS NOW A "NO NO."
NO manufacturer who sells to USA /Europe (& now maybe Japan) HAS ANY HOPE OF
MARKETING THESE DEVICES in the present repressive LEGAL CLIMATE.
Of course you could just restrict yourself to ONLY buying LARGE AND POWER
HUNGRY full professional gear at the usual full professional prices; and
build up 'professional size' muscles carrying this stuff around.
Perhaps a more enjoyable task, at least for those who can deal with the
technical challenge, is try kludging together a (hopefully stealthable) rig
that runs long and works with reasonable recording quality. It is possible
with the NOMAD if ONLY the A/D inside is acceptable quality AND you know what
the NOMAD's LINE input level (volts or dBv) maximum.
Knowing this, then match MIC (output levels)-to-Preamp (input
levels)-to-NOMAD LINE (input level maximum). The Line signal levels going
(into the NOMAD) need MANUAL ADJUSTMENT & VU INDICATIONS. When you have all
this and the quality is satisfactory, then you got a working system to go out
recording ANALOG MIC-to-DIGITAL HARD DISK audio.
FINALLY A WORD OF CAUTION: BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING A BUSINESS by selling
a TURNKEY ONE-PIECE systems (especially pocket-sized with NO lossy
compression like the M1 DAT) to help keep life 'simple & affordable' for
yourself.
Even Sharp is NOW getting pressured to (mic/line input features) cripple
their line of MD recorders (or quit selling then in USA or Europe, maybe
Japan also) to NOT PROVIDE THE FULL MANUAL RECORDING MIC/LINE INPUT features
(TO LIKE those of the Sony models). I'm guessing the MIC-to-LOSSY
COMPRESSION MD DIGITAL recording quality seems TOO GOOD for the big music
industry interests.
Anyway, this is the only reason I can think to the present scarcity of Sharp
MD models recently.
Maybe it's a good time for DAT Heads (who stealth) to back up on spares of
Sharp MD and Sony DAT portable decks? At least there should be some
home/hobby recording interest group representing interests to keeping certain
innovating products in the market to meet the demand (this is called good
business), without the constant threat of legal action from (the paranoid)
big money interests who seem to pressure all manufacturers who produce
innovating recording products at reasonable cost.
Of course, maybe I'm just imagining the demise of quality portable recording
gear and just being a bit anxious for no real reason?
Maybe I should just relax while saving up for one of those power-hungry
atlas-book-sized solid-RAM (no disk) recorders? Affording just 3-5 thousand
with just enough memory (user installed) to record a few hours of
equivalent-to-dat quality audio. This seems like a step backwards as
compared to (discontinued?) portable decks like the M1.
I cannot help but question this situation, seeing this as NOT being practical
techno-progress, but more AGENDA that forces the user to pay more for
products with increasing limitations. These big new recorders now appearing
are being hype marketed within the guise of being technologically new, AND
better designed for the purpose the product was intended!?
FOR WHAT purpose would that be? AND just what were those intentions
again?!?
Technology should be one of life's enjoyable, AND ENABLING, progressive
elements.
Recording technology, as it now applies to DATheads and anyone who does live
audio recording (hobby, musician, Pro-Location+), is getting rather
DIS-ENABLING with larger size/increased power consumption, shorter recording
time decks, and VERY RETRO with more and more schemes to insure LOSSY
compression and resampling degradation as STANDARD POLICY.
Something's need to be done to turn this situation around. As with most
needed changes for the better, RECOGNIZING There's A PROBLEM IS THE FIRST
STEP TO 'SOLVATION'!
And feel free to quote me on that!
Best Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard (& Debbie) Lombardo, Owners
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From: "Steve Mew" <paragon_of_virtue@hotmail.com>
Subject: GERMAN tapers needed (dredg tour dates)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:43:36 -0700
tapers needed for the following dates.
dredg IS taper friendly. as always, venue dependant.
lmk if you can tape any of the dates
expect 'art rock'. cross btwn tool/pink floyd/mogwai
date venue city state country notes
5/17/2002 Rock Am Ring Nuremberg Germany
5/18/2002 Rock Im Park Nuremberg Germany
5/22/2002 Flash St. Wendel Germany
5/23/2002 Spot Kassel Germany
5/24/2002 Fabrik Coesfeld Germany
5/25/2002 Faust Hannover Germany
5/26/2002 Gruenspan Hamburg Germany
5/28/2002 So36 Berlin Germany
5/29/2002 Ohrakel Ingolstadt Germany
5/30/2002 Rockhouse Salzburg Salzburg Austria
5/31/2002 Crash Freiburg Germany
6/2/2002 Rockfabrik Augsburg Germany
6/4/2002 Hafen Innsbruck Germany
6/5/2002 Kulturladen Konstanz Germany
6/6/2002 Substage Karlsrhue Germany
6/8/2002 Matrix Bochum Germany
6/9/2002 Tivoli TBC Bremen Germany
6/11/2002 Live Music Hall Koeln Germany
6/12/2002 Colos Saal Aschaffanburg Germany
6/13/2002 Easy Schorre Halle Germany
my tradelist: http://members.tripod.com/New_Jack
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From: "vze2364m" <vze2364m@verizon.net>
Subject: live shows
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:55:57 -0400
Greetings heads,
Does anyone have any clones of dat, cdr or md
on Meshell Ndegeocello live?
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