DAT-heads Digest #293
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SP and LP mode 32K DAT. (JH)
Re: DVD Question (Keith Bode)
FOR SALE: CSNY Tix's to Chicage show 4-25-02 gold circle ("JoeRay Skrha")
Paging Tim Desai... (fortyacrerock)
Foo Fighters ("Mr. Data")
Buzzy Linhart Benefit 4-22-02 ... I'll pay your admission if you can record the show !!! ("JoeRay Skrha")
ISO: Taper for Thurs. 4.25 Hamilton, ON, CA show ("ed wawrzyniak")
Garbage 04-20-02 Cleveland ("greengoblin")
re: nomad 3 (Nick Georges)
HHB Portadiskdrive ("Bob")
Skatallites taping policy? (james peterson)
Gear bags? ("Matt")
To trade- SBD: Trey A Band@Red Rocks 7-18-01 (JPollQs@aol.com)
ISO STS9 Bob Wiely ("Matt Edlhuber")
California venue help (Robert Kane)
ISO: Help on DAT2WAV errors (Richard Hammond)
From: JH <kc7fys@yahoo.com>
Subject: SP and LP mode 32K DAT.
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:23:44 -0500
"John E. Bogus" said---
>From: "john e. bogus" <mallness@surfbest.net>
>Subject: 32 khz help...
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:08:35 -0400
>Last nights' Motorhead show was an extreme stealth situation....somehow
>during setup the SP/LP switch on my D7 got bumped and I ended up with a 32
>khz tape. Sounded fine on headphones during the drive back, but got nothing
>but garbage when played back at home on the SV-3800. I copied a bit of the
>tape, and a copy plays back fine on both decks. I remember hearing
>something about Sony having a different 32 khz system, but what gives? Is
>there any way to play the master back on a non-Sony deck? Or do I have to
>make a copy for myself to listen to it on my SV-3800? Why does the copy
>play back on both decks but not the master?
I wasn't aware that the SV3800 has 32K LP mode. I know it will playback SP
mode 32K, but as far as I know you only have to clone the DAT to your 3800,
and the resulting tape will be an SP mode (standard spool speed, versus 1/2
speed as in the LP mode master) 32K DAT. Often my masters and those of
others will go near the end of the tape and switch to 32K near the end, due
to a recordist wanting to catch all encores, etc on the same tape. If I
clone from my D100 to another Sony deck, the resultant tape is LP mode, but
if I clone to Tascam or Pioneer, the 32K result is SP mode.
When you say "copied the tape" do you mean you cloned it to another Sony
deck? Was the clone LP or SP mode?
Good luck,
Jonathan
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From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DVD Question
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:15:15 -0700
I must have bought one of the first TV's made with an S video input, a
1988 Mitsubishi 26" Monitor style. I have been watching it since it was
new using the RF input. About a year ago I got a Sony DVD player, and
hooked up the old Mitsubishi, which surprised me at having the S-video
input, with S-video and audio through my stereo. I knew what I was used
to watching and the new DVD player, with the S-video, just blew away
anything I had seen on that set before. Some of us do notice the
improvement.
Keith
>We had an Apex AD-600A DVD player connected through an
RF video
>modulator to a 12 year old Sylvania TV which resulted in
an excellent
>picture and sound. In an attempt to obtain better
picture and sound
>quality (DTS) we bought brand new TV's (Sony and JVC)
and new DVD
>players (Sony and Zenith) and better connections
(S-video and component)
>neither of the combos of DVD players and TV's resulted
in a picture
>nearly as good as what we had. Does anyone know what
the cause could
>be? Sony, and Brands Mart (place of purchase of the new
equipment) seem
>as baffled as I am. Any info would be appreciated.
I'll send a DVD or
>DAT or CD to anyone who can help.
Most likely, what you're noticing is picture clarity. :)
Your 12 year old set won't have nearly the accuracy or
clarity of a newer
set (especially a Sony). Plus, you're now using
component in which has a
MUCH sharper picture with much more accurate colors than
even S-Video.
Your old RF modulator doesn't compare.
However, if you've had the old set for 12 years, you're
probably used to
everything being just a tad fuzzy. Colors are probably
more muted and the
edges aren't sharp. The newer set probably looks "extra"
bright, and
almost strident on the edges on screen.
At a company I used to work for, we switched out an older
gentleman's 32"
RCA (which was a piece of junk) for a new Sony XBR (which
is a nice TV,
even though I'm really not fond of the flat-screen tube
sets). He had
instructed us to toss the old set. About 2 hours after
we made the switch
(and had disposed of the old TV), he called back to
complain that the new
set didn't look "right" and that the picture wasn't as
"good" as his old
set.
It's just a matter of what you're used to. If you
normally listen to
music on walkman headphones, you'll no doubt be dazzled
by hearing that
same music from a good set of loudspeakers with midbass
clarity and
subbass response. I would wager it's the exact same
thing in this case.
Check it out, and see if that's what it is.
Keith
From: "JoeRay Skrha" <joeray@ptialaska.net>
Subject: FOR SALE: CSNY Tix's to Chicage show 4-25-02 gold circle
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:57:50 -0800
Subject: For Sale: 2 CSNY Tix's to Chicago show 4-25-02
Howdy Folks,
I have 2 premium tickets to the CSNY show in Chicago 4-25-02. These
Tix's are right on the side of the stage 6 rows up off the main floor.
Perfect viewing for those that don't want to stand the whole show on the
mail floor. Location: Sec:113 Row 6 Seats 12 and 13. Face Value 226.
If you are interested in these great seats, please let me know and make me a
reasonable offer.... I will overnight them by Federal Express at my cost...
I was planning on flying in from Alaska for the show until I learned today
that I will have to start a criminal trial of a client on Wednesday that
will last atleast 5 days. I can be reached at: joeray@ptialaska.net or
907-283-6100 most of the weekend or 907-283-7100 during work hours...
Peace, Joe Ray
From: fortyacrerock <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Paging Tim Desai...
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 01:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
Tim? Can you email me please? Thanks! Sorry for
the b/w waste-o-space
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From: "Mr. Data" <avan.heyst@quicknet.nl>
Subject: Foo Fighters
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:17:20 +0200
WANTED:
Foo Fighters Live 13-12-1997 @ Shepherd's Bush Empire, London.
Contains "Sheer Heart Attack" with Roger Taylor joining Taylor Hawkins
on drums.
Thanks in advance,
Straight Mailto:avan.heyst@quicknet.nl
From: "JoeRay Skrha" <joeray@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Buzzy Linhart Benefit 4-22-02 ... I'll pay your admission if you can record the show !!!
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 04:28:29 -0800
Greetings from Alaska,
Just a reminder that Monday April 22, 02 there will be a
Benefit for the Legendary Singer/Songwriter "BUZZY LINHART"
at the Bottom Line, NYC...
If you can record the show on DAT... I will pay for your admission
ticket.
Let me know ASAP if you can go and record the show. Peace, Joe Ray Skrha
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"You Gotta Have Friends"
A Buzzy Linhart Celebration/Benefit -
at the Bottom Line in NYC, Monday, April 22nd
All net proceeds will go to Buzzy for medical expenses
With performances from Buzzy Linhart and his friends,
- David Amram - Richard Belzer - John Hammond Jr -
Moogy Klingman - Will Lee - John Sebastion - Phoebe Snow
Tributes from WBAI's Bob Fass & producer Eddie Kramer
Musical Director - Moogy Klingman at the keyboards,
Bruce Gatewood, Guitar, Kevin Ellman, drums, Will Lee and Even Steven,
bass -
Harmony singers - Julie Eigenberg, Ellen Bernfeld, & Johanna Fee
Monday April 22nd - one show only at 8:00 - $30
The Bottom Line is at 15 w 4th st. in NYC, for tickets call 212
502 3471
or go to http://bottomlinecabaret.com to reserve tickets
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From: "ed wawrzyniak" <ed_wawrzyniak@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Taper for Thurs. 4.25 Hamilton, ON, CA show
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 07:20:43 -0500
Hello all,
I'm hoping to find someone who'll be able to stealth a show this Thurs.
04.25 in Hamilton, ON. Of course I'll provide a ticket to the show and any
expenses incurred (travel, food, etc.). This band is a doing a reunion show
after many years and it would fantastic to archive it for the ages. Please
contact me for furthur details. Thanks so much for the BW.
Later,
Ed
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From: "greengoblin" <greengoblin@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Garbage 04-20-02 Cleveland
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 10:39:37 -0400
Well I got my gear into the Garbage show last night in Cleveland but had my
tape get eaten. Did anybody have any better luck than me? I would love a
copy if so. I have lots to trade in return> Thanks
Michael
From: Nick Georges <nick@nickspicks.com>
Subject: re: nomad 3
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 10:40:17 -0400
Mike W and guySonic were talking about the nomad III resampling.
Mike...i would not get your hopes up.
No, I have not seen documentation that says for certain, but show me
another creative labs product that doesnt resample digital input?
There are many devices out there that are much nicer and more
"professional" that still resample incoming streams.
I think the question will beg "how much do I care if this resamples?",
because it certainly is a cool alternative to a DAT deck.
From: "Bob" <bp@gti.net>
Subject: HHB Portadiskdrive
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:23:29 -0400
Marantz(!) has a microdrive recorder.
Microdrive is expected to hit 10GB very, very soon.
This IS the future of DAT, IMHO.
As with all electronica, the prices will come down
to 1/10 at the consumer level within one year.
More, with crappy features added within the next two.
How you say ? Consumer product lifecycle?
Pandering to lemmings? Whatever................
-Bob
From: David Carmean <dlc@halibut.com>
Subject: Re: RE; HHb Portadiscdrive tempting...
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:37:17 -0700
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 07:12:32AM -0400, Beast914@aol.com wrote:
> Klay pointed out that images of the new HHB portadrive are on their
website.
> OH: and-
>
> "the retail will be just under $10,000."
>
> Gosh. At that price its just sooooo tempting. Clearly its priced for the
> casual user/ hobbyist. Sigh; oh well- back to the crack cocaine pipe.
:P
Clearly, it's aimed at film/tv location sound. But it seems relevant
to the recent list discussions of the (lack of?) future of DAT. Maybe
it will inspire somebody to make a smaller four or two-channel, non-timecode
"prosumer" version. Maybe it will inspire some Linux hackers to start
a DIY project.
obDATContent: sigh...I've got to take my only rig in to get the alignment
fixed today. Right at the start of concert season. Hope I can get it
back quickly. At least I live close enough that I can transport it myself
and save a few days.
From: james peterson <soulcraft@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Skatallites taping policy?
Reply-To: soulcraft@worldnet.att.net
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:54:09 +0000
hey folks, anyone have updated info on the Skatallites taping policy?
thanks in advance
-J
From: "Matt" <matt@mattb.net>
Subject: Gear bags?
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:04:23 -0600
I just broke the zipper on my trusty old 80's camera bag I had been
using to carry around my taping gear. Now I'm shopping for a new one, and
I'm wondering what recommendations I'd get from you folks. I use an M1,
PS-2, Oktava's in the plastic boxes, and lots of small parts like adaptors,
stealth mics, cables and of course tapes. Since I don't have a DA-P1 or
similarly sized preamp, those cases I see you all using for that kind of
gear probably wouldn't be right for me.
I've been looking on eBags.com, and there are some nice camera bags
there, like this one:
http://www.ebags.com/products/index.cfm?ModelID=7843&bb_id=s99&ProductList_2
0_Link=Details. I'm curious if there is a great source or style of bag I
might be overlooking. I want something that is pretty low-key, that doesn't
say "Hey, I'm full of expensive stuff - steal me!". I want it padded and
compartmentalized so things don't scratch each other in transport or get
bumped too hard. What do you guys suggest? Thanks!
Matt
WOB: MMW 4-13-02, Lensic Performing Arts Center - Santa Fe. Okatava MC012's
> PS-2 > Neutrik Transformers > M1. Shns fit on one 80 min CD-R, but I can
also spin two 60s or one 90 m from my computer (S/PDIF from pro sound card)
if you prefer.
From: JPollQs@aol.com
Subject: To trade- SBD: Trey A Band@Red Rocks 7-18-01
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 14:02:41 EDT
I was just given the truly fantastic SBD recording of Trey Anastasio's Band
at Red Rocks last July 18th. This is not one of the many audience tapes. Its
the soundboard direct matrix DAT reference master. Flawless recording and a
excellent tape mix. On 3 CDs.
I'm into upgrading some Garcia side project shows, old Dead and non-Dead. Not
currently interested in Phish or other Trey lists, however. I'm also looking
for the following 5 Garcia shows:
1/15/73
1/17/73
1/23/73
7/2/74
7/4/74
Here's the CD tracklists. Please send a tradelist if interested in trading.
Will take 2 B&Ps and a bunch of trades. Stu
Trey Anastasio Band 7/18/01
Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Morrison, CO
SBD/Mic Matrix reference DAT@48k>protools>CDR
CD 1/3:
set I
1- Mozambique
2- Cayman Review
3- Happy Coffee Song
4- Last Tube
5- Windora Bug
6- Burlap Sack and Pumps
CD 2/3:
set I (continued)
1- Money, Love and Change
set II
2- Sand
3- When>
4- Mr. Completely
5- Gotta Jibboo
CD 3/3:
set II (continued)
1- Nothing But a G Thing
2- Radon Balloon
3- Bathtub Gin
Encore:
4- Moesha
From: "Matt Edlhuber" <medlhuber@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO STS9 Bob Wiely
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 13:51:26 -0500
Hey Bob please drop me a line. Lost your e-mail addy and have a tape for
you.
-CrazyED
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From: Robert Kane <roekbarnet@mailhost.det.ameritech.net>
Subject: California venue help
Reply-To: roekbarnet@ameritech.net
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:09:16 -0400
I will be flying out to California in June to tape a bunch of Cowboy
Junkies shows, and I was hoping to get some information about taping at
the following venues:
The Coach House, San Juan Capistrano
Humphrey's Concerts by the Bay, San Diego
HOB, Los Angeles
Galaxie Concert Theater, Santa Ana
Mountain Winery, Saratoga
Fillmore, San Francisco
The Junkies allow taping so that is not a problem. I am looking for
information about the venues (sweet spot, mic recommendations (card or
hyper), mic set-up (DIN, ORTF, NOS), etc.). Any information you think
is necessary would be helpful. My rig is: MG M200 (or M210) > V2 > MMe
> DA-P1.
TIA,
~Robert
--
"...Thank god they sent me a little CD...some Bootleg, very handy those
things."
Tori Amos 11 November, 2001 (Oakland, CA)
From: Richard Hammond <rlhammon@netscape.net>
Subject: ISO: Help on DAT2WAV errors
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:24:49 -0500
I'm wondering if anyone here could lend a hand. I've got an Archive
Python 01931-XXX5AC DAT drive (yes, audio firmware and all). I'm having
problems getting it to work, but the person I bought it from states that
it does (I do trust him, he's on the list here) and they actually have
been very willing to help.
Problem is the ASPI layer seems to be correctly installed. I've tried
the newest drivers from Adaptec, the newest from Microsoft, the ones
that come with my Win98 SE disc (installed OS), and the newest ones I
could find from the card manufacture (Advansys). Adaptec's ASPI
Installation Verification (aspichk.exe) states everything is fine there.
In a DOS window I enter:
DAT2wav 0:4 waveout (or whatever the command is, either to play or record)
No matter what versions of ASPI I use I get the same error in DAT2WAV:
Found drive ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX5AC
Setting drive in audio mode: done
ASPI request error: 4, sense key: 0x8, asc 0x30, ascq: 0x1
Playing audio track#1
ASPI request error: 4, sense key: 0x8, asc 0x30, ascq: 0x1
read audio block failed
When I use SCSIPING this is what I get:
Adapter 00 of 02: <ID7> 'ASPI for Windowsw9xasc ' [01h]
<ID 1 LUN 0> <05h> 'Plextor CD-ROM PX-20TS 1.02' {00h}[01h][00h][00h]
<ID 4 LUN 0> <01h> 'ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX5ac' {00h}[01h][00h][00h]
Adapter 01 of 02: <ID7> 'ASPI for WindowsESDI_506 ' [01h]
<ID 0 LUN 0> <05h> 'Sony CD-RW CRX160E 1.0e' {00h}[01h][00h][00h]
Am I just wrong in that the command in DAT2WAV shouldn't be 0:4 for the
adapter and ID? The error seems like it's trying to read ID4 and not
getting finding the drive correctly.
I've checked the jumpers on the DAT drive and it is set to ID4, SCSIPING
and the SCSI Interrogator, along with my SCSI card all show it on ID4.
I've tried with the DAT drive terminated, and without it terminated
(with termination on the card, which is ID7).
I'm about out of my knowledge extent on SCSI devices... only reason I
have a SCSI card is in '94 that's the only way CD-R's came and I had to
get one.
BTW, I've also tried the demo version of VDAT. It shows the drive on
0:4 as well, but when I go to play the DAT the software crashes and
causes a protection fault and shuts down.
Any help appreciated, and I'll get you something from my list for your help.
Thanks,
Rich Hammond
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