DAT-heads Digest #297
Contents:
It Ain't Heavy.... (Klay Anderson)
FS: Teac/Tascam PE-120s (Nak CM-300s) ("Nic Brokenleg")
anyone use 120meters - trade offer (artood2)
DAT collection gone (Jude James McElroy)
Re: RR/FF on a dat (Barry Welch)
ISO John Paul Jones recordings ("Laurent Hotte")
RE: FS: Brand New Sony DG15CL DAT Head Cleaning Cassette ("Stanley W. Smith")
Baldwin Brothers 4.12.02 for Trade or BnP (Schwigiddy)
Sony DAT repairs (Tom McGee)
ROB ZOMBIE LIVE CDR FT 4-16-02 WORCESTER MA ("eD")
ANI DIFRANCO 2CDR LIVE FT PROVIDENCE 4-20-02 ("eD")
re: : Same dumb "Best CD-R" question, but this is SERIOUS :) ("Slipkid")
patty griffin--catch her if you can (david)
Rush Tapers (Adam Aronson)
The Jukebox 3 ("Larry J Abballe")
Stephen Malkmus Transfer (john.clarke@saltlake2002.com)
Hellborg, Lane & Sipe Shows ("DRider")
ISO D.C. area taper ("Todd Norman")
Extra DATS: Phish Japan 7/30/99 ("Clay R. Caroselli")
Price correction (Keith Bode)
Sonic Youth is looking for these shows-1986 tour (KindTaper@aol.com)
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: It Ain't Heavy....
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:01:57 -0600
Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: FS: Brand New Sony DG15CL DAT Head Cleaning Cassette
Noted:
> $5 plus $80 for postage per tape is what I can pass them on for.
US$80 for postage...they must be heavy metal cleaning tapes....
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: "Nic Brokenleg" <nnbroken@sio.midco.net>
Subject: FS: Teac/Tascam PE-120s (Nak CM-300s)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:16:01 -0500
Hey gang,
The last couple of buyers have backed out on me, so please only express
interest if you really are interested!
I have a pair of Teac PE-120 microphones for sale. These are identical in
every way to Nakamichi CM-300s, they just have the Teac name. They are in
*excellent* condition and come with the cardioid and omni caps, four
windscreens, two sets of batteries, and a case to hold everything. Hell,
I'll even include a pair of 20 foot mic cables for them. All you'll need is
some sort of deck!
I've had these mics for about two years, and was only able to use them 2 or
3 times. I'm the third owner of these mics, and they've been babied. I'm
selling them because I've upgraded to a pair of CM-700s, and need the money.
They're just sitting here in storage, waiting for someone to give them a
good home! These would be great mics for someone just getting started with
taping, as they don't require phantom power.
I'd really like to get $400 for these plus shipping, but all reasonable
offers will be considered, so feel free to make an offer!
Thanks,
Nic
From: artood2 <artood2@shaw.ca>
Subject: anyone use 120meters - trade offer
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:27:33 -0700
I came into a large supply of 120 meter computer back up tapes
of course you could use these for audio ... I know some people do ...
anyhow they are of little use to me I'd entertain trades for cdrs or dats
full or virgin
the tapes I have are "one pass" but I'd be willing to give you a good ratio
1-2 per new dat 6-7 per cdr spindle
(more or less depending on full or virgin media)
these retail for about $15-20 EACH new !! .
I also have a non audio (to my knowledge) dds drive to offer
email if int
From: Jude James McElroy <jjmcelro@artsci.wustl.edu>
Subject: DAT collection gone
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:32:03 -0500 (CDT)
The collection is gone.
jude
From: Barry Welch <barryw@io.com>
Subject: Re: RR/FF on a dat
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:28:25 -0500
GaoBest@aol.com wrote:
>I know this has been discussed before, but I still cannot understand what the
>reasoning is for FF/RW on a blank dat before using it for recording.
...
and then later:
>bwt: 3 random b/p for the concert performance from pink floyd 3-8-72 (japan
...
>my unreasonable and stupid conditions are that b/p people must unpack/etc
>their
>DAT first
??? I find these two statements most incongrous. My understanding for
the reason to
"unpack" (FF/RW) a DAT before recording is to even out or normalize the
reel tension.
and
>Lastly, is the DAT format in danger? I read an interview with Bear (that GD
>guy) in the GD Deadheads tapers compendium (by Getz/Dwork), in which he said
>that the music on DAT format was not reliably archived, and that optical (eg,
>CDR) digital formats were okay to use. I don't know how much of an expert or
>amateur he even is, so I'm not sure if this is something to worry about.
Bear, Augustus Stanley Owsley, was THE sound guy for the GD for many many
years.
Definitely not an amateur, but anyone who tries to hypothesize about the true
long term durability of todays recording mediums can only be an estimated
prophet.
It does make sense though that optical 1's and 0's holes burned into a
substrate would
perhaps have a longevity edge over information stored in magnetic pulses on a
thin layer of magnetic material layered on a thin tape and wound on a spool.
From: "Laurent Hotte" <hottekilburn@sympatico.ca>
Subject: ISO John Paul Jones recordings
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:32:04 -0400
Over the past few months I've been trying to located as many recordings that
I could find from John Paul Jones latest NA tour. I've found quite a few
thanks to some of you, but there's still a few that are still eluding me.
Here are the ones that I'm looking for:
Nov 16 Web Theatre, Phoenix, AZ
Nov 17 House Of Blues, Las Vegas
Nov 21 Grand Ballroom at RiverCentre, Minneapolis, St Paul, MN
Nov 25 The Pageant , St. Louis, MO
Nov 27 The Madrid Theater, Kansas City, MO
Nov 29 Promowest Pavillion, Columbus, OH
Dec 02 Palace Theatre, Greensburg, PA
Dec 11 Tower Theatre, Philadelphia, PA
Also these two, played recently in England:
Jan 27 The Lyric Theatre, Lowry, Manchester
Apr 12 Borders Bookshop, London, Mines Advisory Group Benefit Gig with Julie
Felix
I have a very good size list and I'm pretty sure that we can find an
arrangement for an eventual trade. You can view my list at:
http://www.geocities.com/drzeuss649/TAPELIST.HTM
Thanks in advance.
Laurent
From: "Stanley W. Smith" <swsmith@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: FS: Brand New Sony DG15CL DAT Head Cleaning Cassette
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:32:44 -0500
Tape is cheap, but the postage is killing me...
Where we gotta' mail this to, again?
I hope this a typo... ;)
Stan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
>Subject: FS: Brand New Sony DG15CL DAT Head Cleaning Cassette
>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:31:42 -0700
<snip>
> If $5 plus $80 for postage per tape is what I can pass them on for.
> I know that is a hell of a lot cheaper than what I paid for mine.
<snip>
>Keith
From: Schwigiddy <gear4sale4u@yahoo.com>
Subject: Baldwin Brothers 4.12.02 for Trade or BnP
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
PLEASE REPLY TO schwigiddy@yahoo.com
i have the Balwin Brothers & the Lake Trout Set from
Houston,Tx.
Baldwin Brothers 4.12.02 earthworks sr77's
lake Trout 4.12.02 akg c1000's remastered
both sound great, i am not the biggest Lake Trout fan
but , the
Baldwin Brothers ROCK....would like to get more of
them, any show
any date, anywhere......
lemee know, i would like to get more soon.....thanx
for looking....
Rick......................
PS i will take a fwe BnP's on this...
PLEASE REPLY TO schwigiddy@yahoo.com
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From: Tom McGee <tfm@110.net>
Subject: Sony DAT repairs
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:10:46 -0400
--
The current flat-rate repair price from Sony in Westwood, MA for
models TCD-D100 and PCM-MI is $255. They'll fix whatever is necessary
for that price. One of my machines got new heads and another got a
new display board during the past year. I think the warranty period
on the repairs is 90 days.
If you're not local (or even if you are) it helps if you give them a
complete description of the problem, especially if it's intermittent.
If I had been more specific, it would have saved me a callback, but
fortunately, I am local to them and checked the machine before
leaving the parking lot.
From: "eD" <lileddie@attbi.com>
Subject: ROB ZOMBIE LIVE CDR FT 4-16-02 WORCESTER MA
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:33:39 -0400
Wild Wild sold out show...recorded on DAT with sonic studios mics and
converted to cdr....
For trade only....send your tradelists to lileddie@attbi.com
setlist is close to this....not exact...
4-16-02 Palladium 8:30-9:40
Sinners Inc.-intro.
Demon Speeding
Dead Girl Superstar
Living Dead Girl
Supercharger Heaven
Superbeast
Demonoid Phenomenon
The Return Of The Phantom Stranger
Meet The Creeper
More Human than Human
House Of 1000 Corpses
Feel So Numb
What Is Lurking On Channel X?
Never Gonna Stop
Thunder Kiss 65
=================
Dragula
Blood, Milk, And Sky
I am especially looking for Rob Zombie, Wes Cunningham, Verbena, Ike Reilly,
Lonesome Bob, Beulah
"The Future's Uncertain and the End is Always Near"........Jim Morrison
"I'll tell you this man, all I want to do is have my kicks before the whole
shithouse goes up in flames."......The Lizard King
From: "eD" <lileddie@attbi.com>
Subject: ANI DIFRANCO 2CDR LIVE FT PROVIDENCE 4-20-02
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:33:44 -0400
SOld out smaller venue ANi show....with band
recorded with sonic studios mics on DAt and transferred to cdr....great
sound...
setlist
Back Back Back (w/ Julie)
Phase (w/ Hans & bass)
You Had Time
Letter to a John -> Tamburitza Lingua
Dilate
In the Way
Gratitude
Worthy
Fire Door -> Hat Shaped Hat
Rock Paper Scissors (w/ Julie)
Names and Dates and Times
Next Bold Move
My IQ (a cappella)
Heartbreak Even
Shy
---
Not So Soft
email me your tradelists...looking for recent Ani of exc quality on solo
and any other bands....esp recent shows....
lileddie@attbi.com
also looking for Verbena, Ike Reilly, Wes Cunningham, Lonesome Bob,
Chocolate Genius
"The Future's Uncertain and the End is Always Near"........Jim Morrison
"I'll tell you this man, all I want to do is have my kicks before the whole
shithouse goes up in flames."......The Lizard King
From: "Slipkid" <slipkid@voicenet.com>
Subject: re: : Same dumb "Best CD-R" question, but this is SERIOUS :)
Reply-To: "Slipkid" <slipkid@voicenet.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:53:38 -0400
chris wrote:
>A lot of my really old SHN's on crappy discs
>are coming back to bite me in the ass by a few tracks here
>and there not extracting, pretty much ruining the show.
>...WHAT IS A DISC I CAN BUY NOW THAT IS DAMN GAURANTEED TO
>LAST A GOOD FIVE YEARS?
>I've heard these names before, what
>do you know about them?
>
>Klone, Taiyo Yuden, Fuji, Mitsui, Kodak.
>
i don't know if anything in this life is guaranteed, especially in the mess
of trying to buy "quality" CD-Rs amongst all the confusing misleading
"brand" names, but the rule of thumb regarding CD-R "quality" that i believe
in is that it is best to stay away from the discs manufactured in taiwanese
factories like RITEK and CMC who i *think* make discs for brands like
"Klone", "TDK", "Memorex", "Maxell", "Imation", etc (it is very hard to keep
track of who is making what)
it seems to be generally accepted amongst "serious" CD-R traders to stick
with the japanese factories like Mitsui & Taiyo-Yuden - who also sell their
wares to many "brands" (Imation for example has both crappy Ritek and good
T-Y discs in their worldwide line)
i've lately been using alot of T-Y discs sold very inexpensively as FUJIFILM
and HP (about $10-15 per spindle of 50), and the Mitsuis as well (which are
more expensive)
i heard that KODAK have a great rep but they are getting out of the CD-R
manufacturing biz
i certainly think that discs should last longer than 5 years!!! under what
conditions were they stored? leaving them under a sunlamp ain't a good idea
for example
CDMEDIAWORLD has some interesting articles on CD-R "brands", "quality", what
goes into each type of dye formulation & how long they should last etc, you
might want to try some reading up there, & search the web for other info
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_quality.shtml
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_tdk_iq.shtml
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_dye.shtml
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_factories.shtml
"gold" discs are supposed to last up to like 100 years btw
hope this helps,
- jon -
From: david <slowtrain@comcast.net>
Subject: patty griffin--catch her if you can
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:15:05 -0400
patty griffin's on tour right now and she's something to hear/see. i ran a
great tape of her ann arbor appearance sunday (she covered dylan's hollis
brown and could teach the old man something about his own songs).
anyway, looking for other recordings of this tour:
http://www.pattygriffin.net/PattyInConcert.html
or past appearances....
dwb
bwt: above mentioned show
From: Adam Aronson <adam@aronson.net>
Subject: Rush Tapers
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:42:41 -0400
Rush dates have been announced and are selling. If anyone plans on taping
please contact me to arrange a trade.
Details are available at: http://veer.net/rush
Thanks,
Adam Aronson
--
Tradable Audio List:
http://aronson.net/audiolist.html
From: "Larry J Abballe" <abballe@sprynet.com>
Subject: The Jukebox 3
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:36:47 -0400
Hello all,
I've been following the Jukebox 3 posts here and
thought you all might find this to be a good read.
Tom's Hardware Guide has done a review of the
Jukebox 3. In the review he states:
"The Jukebox 3 supports direct recording in both
WAV and MP3. In WAV format, you have a choice of
sampling frequency: 48kHz, 44.1kHz or 32kHz in 16
bits. MP3 encoding is in 64, 128, 192 or 320 kbps
at constant output. The Jukebox 3 does not encode
in VBR (Variable Bit Rate), but it can read the files."
Here's a link to the compete review:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/02q2/020419/index.html
Now, if it's capable of recording at a sampling frequency
of your choice @ 48kHz, 44.1kHz or 32kHz, I can not see a
reason for it to resample on the input. However, that
doesn't mean that it doesn't - but it would make absolutely
no sense to do so. I suppose we can assume that it doesn't...
Larry
From: john.clarke@saltlake2002.com
Subject: Stephen Malkmus Transfer
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:16:23 -0600
Help! Need to transfer Stephen Malkmus (Salt Lake City, Utah 10.23.01, NAK
CM300s>WMD-5) from analog to CDR. Will take two B&Ps when transfer is
complete. Please e-mail if interested.
John Clarke Jr.
Senior Writer
Office: 801-212-2395
Mobile: 435-714-1459
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@attbi.com>
Subject: Hellborg, Lane & Sipe Shows
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:52:40 -0400
Hellborg, Lane & Sipe are back together for several shows.
I saw them open for John Scofield on 4/19/02 much to my surprise.
They blew him off the stage!
They also played:
April 20- Blacksburg, VA "Baileys"
April 21- Floyd, VA "Pine Tavern"
April 22- Falls Church, VA "The State Theatre"
If anyone taped them, I would be highly interested in working a trade!
There only a couple shows left:
April 26- Atlanta, GA "Earthshaking Music"
This is a music store setting with 2 shows, one at 8:00 and one at 10:00 PM
The capacity is limited to 100 people.
I know alot of tapers will be at the Vida Blue show, but there needs to be
at least one quality DAT rig at these very rare performances.
The next and final public appearance for this little tour will be:
April 27- Asheville, NC "Stella Blue"
You can get more info from Shawn Lane's website:
http://www.noproblemhere.com/
Please contact me if you plan on attending these awesome shows.
SCI YA!
D-Rider
BWT: Hellborg, Lane & Sipe Variety Playhouse, Atlanta, GA 4/19/02
Josephson C-603/KA- 500(hyper)>Denecke PS-1A>Zefiro Inbox>PCM-M1
DAT ONLY
From: "Todd Norman" <norma023@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: ISO D.C. area taper
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:13:08 -0500
to hit the DC 101 Chili Cook Off event that is on 5-18
email me if there is any interest from someone in the Wash DC area that
would want to tape this, looks like an all day/outdoor kinda thing with 5
bands (4 of which I don't know) playing
here is the Pollstar link for this
http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Venue&Content=BDCWAD1&Key=Y
From: "Clay R. Caroselli" <claycar@stargate.net>
Subject: Extra DATS: Phish Japan 7/30/99
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:00:27 -0400
As the subject states..........this show is on (2) 60m tapes, and is a
"Sbd"/Cass0 Version. Sounds fantastic as well. trades are always welcome.
Clay
~Check out My DAT and CDR list~
http://users.sgi.net/~claycar/list.htm
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Price correction
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:05:08 -0700
Yesterday I posted about having scored some good deals on DAT head
cleaning tapes, and offering them to the group for $5 plus $80 postage
each. One of oour members was kind enough to point out that I put $80
for mailing them, when it should have been 80 cents each.
Also, another member advised me to only wet clean my heads. If anyone
has any information on a web site, or instructions on how to wet clean
my heads, I am very interested in trying that. If I can build
computer's, I should be able to clean a tape head.
In any event I still have a few more DAT cleaning tapes, if they are
wanted. Sony DG15CL, sealed.
Keith
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Sonic Youth is looking for these shows-1986 tour
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:30:37 EDT
They are putting together an EVOL tour movie:
"I'm looking for audio tapes from the 1986 US tour to replace some=20
videocamera sound for the Evol tour movie. I've found some but some are=20
still missing. Wondering if anyone has tapes of any of these gigs. Missing=20
dates so far:
=20
6/24/86 Atlanta 688
6/27/86 Houston Caf=E9 Mode
7/5/86 Huntington Beach Safari Sam's
7/6/86 Portland OR Pine street theatre
7/12/86 Denver Duetscher Hang
7/14/86 Kansas City KS Parody Hall
7/15/86 Minneaplois First Ave.
7/19/86 Indianapolis Hoosier Ballroom
7/20/86 Columbus Stache's
7/21/86 Cleveland Peabody's
7/23/86 Rochester Idols
If you have any of the shows and would like to help, send me an e-mail and I=
=20
will forward it to Lee and the band.
Thanks,
Wes=20
Kindtaper@aol.com
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