DAT-heads Digest #299
Contents:
RE: Are the new Sony DDS tapes causing excessive head wear? ("Zach Payne")
* ISO 9/16/90 Phish Wesleyan Middletown CT ("Eric G. Postel \(home\)")
New Zealand DATers ("Karl R")
Netflix (Keith Bode)
another dead hero (spahni)
FS D-7 & D-8 (JEBAAD@cs.com)
AC Feat this weekend in Chi-town (Chris Cafiero)
Iso TRI CONTINENTAL ("alf")
Ekene & The Source 5/26/01 and Soulive Avalon (MBurgio@lightbridge.com)
NRBQ California Tapers? (Comnaround@aol.com)
Re: The Jukebox 3 (Matthew V Pfeil)
Re: Are the new Sony DDS tapes causing excessive head wear? (Alex Prestin)
Register at Rush.com for Concert Tickets! ("Tatina, Bill")
DATs for CDRs @ 2:1 Dylan,Trower,Hornsby,Mayall (fortyacrerock)
Re: Are the new Sony DDS tapes causing excessive head wear? (David Carmean)
FT: Crispy 2k2 Disco Biscuits DATs ("Joe Totoraitis")
Re: The Jukebox 3 (Len Moskowitz)
Re: Seeking repair options for my Sony D3 and Re: Sony DAT (Mac)
CRAZY MITCHELL's LIST! (Bob Siegl)
From: "Zach Payne" <pzane@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Are the new Sony DDS tapes causing excessive head wear?
Reply-To: "Zach Payne" <pzane@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 01:08:22 -0500
I recently have been victim to the Sony DDS tapes. My D100 was purchased
new just over a year ago and had -maybe- a little over 100 hours at most. I
always cleaned it regulary as recommend by the manual (every 10 hours with a
dry cleaning tape) and being the anal person that I am, inspected my heads
regularly. My heads were looking brand new and shiny just over a month ago
and as of 3 weeks ago, looked like they have been through the ringer. I
used mostly Sony DGP 60's with a few 90's mixed in.
All my trouble seemed to have happened at the 3.23.02 SCI show in Denver
when I was patching. I got two tapes just littered with digi and constant
dropouts. My heads are definetly worn and quite rapidly at that. I'm
attributing it to sony tapes as quite frankly I can't logically say it could
have been caused by anything else. Maybe I just got a few bad ones, i
dunno... but i do know my dat doesn't have long to live :(
Zach
From: "Eric G. Postel \(home\)" <ericpostel@compuserve.com>
Subject: * ISO 9/16/90 Phish Wesleyan Middletown CT
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:48:15 -0500
If anybody has this show and has the time for a one show trade,
I'd really appreciate the chance to get a copy of this show.
thanks, eric
From: "Karl R" <ricies@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: New Zealand DATers
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:42:59 +1200
Hi, I'm in need of someone in Auckland to digitally transfer my DATs to cd.
I don't have a digital soundcard yet. The shows are The Pink Floyd
Experience in Auckland and TOOL in Auckland.
If you can help me out send me a email.
(no overseas offers please)
Thanks
-Karl
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Netflix
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:34:39 -0700
I was given a fairly decent single disc Sony DVD Player for my Birthday,
which will be in a few weeks.......anyway, it had the Netflix free month
advertising on the box. Seems like a good deal, I went for it. I have
to say, if they are shipping thier DVD's the waythey do, and it's not
damaging the media, we traders are way overdoing it. It comes in thin
paper, with a thin paper envelope inside for the disc. I had an awful
experience with their movies on DVD. Virtually all of the movies were
unwatchable. They skipped, and jumped, and did stuff I've never seen a
VHS tape do. I would be surprised if 10% of the DVD's I got from them
played right. Unfortunately, about 4 months ago I lost my wallet, with
credit cards and everything, so I had all my account numbers changed. I
had stopped ordering DVD's from them because they were mostly
unwatchable, so I just waited until they couldn't bill my bank debit
card any more. They called and asked if they could be of service, and
send me more DVD's in exchange for a new card number. I told them
things were just fine, thanks and adios.
Keith
From: spahni <spahni@iinet.net.au>
Subject: another dead hero
Reply-To: spahni@iinet.net.au
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:45:25 +0800
I am sure the majority of you know but for the ones who dont I just
though I would draw some light on the matter. Here is what was posted
on Alice in Chains.net
April 22, 2002
On April 19, 2002, our friend Layne Staley was found
dead in his Seattle home. The official cause of death is still unknown.
Yesterday, we all managed to come together in
Seattle; it's good to be with friends and family as we struggle to deal
with this
immense loss...and try to celebrate this immense
life. We are looking for all the usual things: comfort, purpose,
answers,
something to hold on to, a way to let him go in
peace.
Mostly, we are feeling heartbroken over the death of
our beautiful friend. He was a sweet man with a keen sense of humor and
a deep sense of humanity. He was an amazing
musician, an inspiration, and a comfort to so many. He made great music
and
gifted it to the world. We are proud to have known
him, to be his friend, and to create music with him.
For the past decade, Layne struggled greatly--we can
only hope that he has at last found some peace.
We love you, Layne. Dearly. And we will miss
you...endlessly.
Layne's family has asked that the media honor their
privacy as they mourn their loss; we ask that you respect their request.
Contributions can be made in Layne's name to:
Eastside Recovery Center
1412 140th Place NE
Bellevue, WA 98007
- Alice In Chains
In regard to that it is belived that the whole thing was a drug
overdose, not nesacerally suicide. His body was found in his apartment,
surounded by used suringes, belived to had been dead for about a week.
Last night my frinds and I had a small gathering and payed our repsects
by playing some tunes and watching the Unpluged Video, so all u people
who were touched by this artist might feel the need to crank up a bit of
Dirt, or Jar of files, and rember the passing of, for lack of emotive
words, another dead hero
thanks for the space
Jamie
From: JEBAAD@cs.com
Subject: FS D-7 & D-8
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:40:16 EDT
D-7 $350.00 + shipping
D-8 $400.00 + shipping
Both serviced and cleaned in the last 6 months and are in excellant condition
Techolab SCMS stripper $75.00
From: Chris Cafiero <cjcafiero@comcast.net>
Subject: AC Feat this weekend in Chi-town
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:27:58 -0400
When not touring with Little Feat, Paul Barrere and Fred Tackett perform as
a acoustic duo.
On Saturday, April 27, they'll be at the House of Blues , Chicago, IL (in
the Cafe).
If anyone is available to tape this show please contact me.
Chris
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Little Feat.... www.littlefeat.net
From: "alf" <md2001@mclink.it>
Subject: Iso TRI CONTINENTAL
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:51:40 +0200
Tri-Continental is an excellent group from Canada
They are Bill Bourne, Lester Quitzau and Madagascar Slim.
Somedays ago I heard from radio a concert played in Bremen, Germany and I
liked alot.
I would like get other concerts of this group.
Plenty to trade.
Alf
From: MBurgio@lightbridge.com
Subject: Ekene & The Source 5/26/01 and Soulive Avalon
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:46:14 -0400
I am searching far and wide for two shows and I am hoping someone on this
list can help me out. The first show is Ekene & The Source from Mercury
Lounge, NYC on 5/26/01. There was a schoeps rig running on the stage.
Anyone out there have access to this show? Secondly, I am looking for
someone who taped the Soulive show at Avalon last night. Man this show
ripped. If anyone can help me out I will be sure to return the favor with
any number of things. Email me.
thanks,
marco
From: Comnaround@aol.com
Subject: NRBQ California Tapers?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:55:35 EDT
Anybody on this list get any of the recent Q shows in California? Anyone
gonna be in San Francisco? Lots of Q to trade including many masters! By the
way they have two new live CDs out and one is available from Dead Net the
other in stores.
Mark Lynn
bwt NRBQ 2/22/01 Alley Katz - Richmond, VA
FOB DFC In The Sweet Spot. NAK 701'S->Reutlehuber->SBM->M1->Tascam CDRW 700(2
CDs)
From: Matthew V Pfeil <mattz62@juno.com>
Subject: Re: The Jukebox 3
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:04:11 -0400
I think you're confused over what I mean by resampling. It has nothing
to do with "being able to change the sampling rate on the recorder" as
that would be an awesome feature - hardware resampling on the fly(the
sekd digitla soundcards do this, and there's a reason they cost a bit
more). Here is an explanation.
The incoming signal is some set frequency, for this example we'll say
it's 44.1 khz. This signal enters via the Jukebox's digital input. The
jukebox is set to record at 44.1 khz, so everything appears fine. Then
there is this problem. Resampling would occur when the Jukebox's
internal clock does not lock onto the incoming signal's clock. As you
know, frequency is basically a fraction of occurences/time unit. Well,
both the incoming signal and hte Jukebox can be set at 44,100
"occurrences", which is the top half of the equation. However, if the
bottom half, the "second(timeunit)" part do not match, then the fractions
are not equal. Do you understand what I mean at this point? Observe the
(exaggerated time unit value below).
Let's assume that the incoming clock signal's value is 1, which is what
our recorder to pick up on exactly. However, like previous Creative
products as well as the M-Audio DiO2448 digital soundcard, which use
their own internal clock for keeping generating that version of a
"second", the value of the time unit (second) may be (exaggerated) 1.05
(that is a clearly made up number and if the difference between the two
was so great all recordings would be noticeably different.)
So, does 44,100/1 = 44,100/1.05? No, the numbers are not the same at
all. And so we have digital resampling. The recorder records this input
at 44.1, and so everything appears ok. But, the input was in fact
resampled and is not an EXACT DIGITAL REPRODUCTION of what was sent to
it.
However, many people will not be able to hear the input resampling, so it
doesn't matter. Everyone can use the equipment they feel is best for
them. If you don't care that the recorder does this, go for it, it'd be
great for you. The difference may not be audible; to some it may be. If
you can live with it, grab this recorder because it's great (for your
purposes). You don't need a soundcard to transfer your recordings to a
computer because of hte firewire (and slow usb). You have a large
recording time. It's a 20 gb portable hard drive you can use for files
of all sorts. It has the option for up to 22 hours of playing time off
of internal batteries that are rechargeable.
As for level meters - my friend called creative earlier this week and
they confirmed there are no viewable levels on the machine. So make sure
your A/D converter or pre-amp has viewable levels or you'll be guessing
all night.
Matt
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From: Alex Prestin <wakko@bitey.net>
Subject: Re: Are the new Sony DDS tapes causing excessive head wear?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:41:56 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Digital Ambience" <digitalambience@hotmail.com>
>
> I've read that the newer Sony DDS tapes may erode the heads prematurely,..
> anyone had any recent instances of sony usage and sudden head replacemnt? I
> doubt they're as bad as the black wrap maxells though.
I've been using them for months without a problem.
> Fuji tapes also have a higher output than sony or maxell though
> they tend to 'whiten' the sound compared to the warmer sounding sony's.
This is just BS. Digital bits sound the same no matter what you
record them to. This isn't cassette-land where a different kind of
oxidized metal retains more of some frequency than another. There's
simply no way one DAT can "sound" any different from any other, unless
it's shedding and losing data.
- A.P. (wanna buy a green marker?)
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From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: Register at Rush.com for Concert Tickets!
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:15:37 -0600
Attention Rush fans! Go to http://www.rush.com and register at the
official band site for exclusive access to preferred concert
seating for the
Vapor Trails World Tour 2002.
At the site, click on the link that says "BE A MEMBER OF RUSH.COM:
Register for advanced ticket access and info."
Register Now!!
From: fortyacrerock <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: DATs for CDRs @ 2:1 Dylan,Trower,Hornsby,Mayall
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
Todays DATs are:
ZZ Top 10-11-97 daud core sounds Honolulu 60
meter fuli
ZZ Top 5-24-97 daud sanken cos-11 L.A. with
Rush 5-12-74 sbd/u/k gen NYC on the same 90
meter KAO Gold
Robin Trower 7-30-97 daud Atlanta Panasonic Pro
124
Bruce Hornsby 11-20-93 dsb Cleveland 90 meter
Apple
John Mayall 5-30-99 dsb SJC 1st tune fade/in
60 meter Maxell
Bob Dylan 6-5-99 daud un/spec Schoeps Denver
Sony dg 60 meter
I'd like to get 2 cdrs for each DAT Send me your
Digi List I will look it over...I'll split them
up and I'll take just about anything from the
Mccartney 02' Tour thats full digi only....or
anything else thats all Full Digital!
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From: David Carmean <dlc@halibut.com>
Subject: Re: Are the new Sony DDS tapes causing excessive head wear?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:41:27 -0700
Doesn't anyone here know an SEM tech or university student who
could examine tape samples under an electron microscope? (My
contact's company went belly up a while ago, so I no longer do.)
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 01:08:22AM -0500, Zach Payne wrote:
> I recently have been victim to the Sony DDS tapes. My D100 was purchased
> new just over a year ago and had -maybe- a little over 100 hours at most. I
> always cleaned it regulary as recommend by the manual (every 10 hours with a
> dry cleaning tape) and being the anal person that I am, inspected my heads
> regularly. My heads were looking brand new and shiny just over a month ago
> and as of 3 weeks ago, looked like they have been through the ringer. I
> used mostly Sony DGP 60's with a few 90's mixed in.
>
> All my trouble seemed to have happened at the 3.23.02 SCI show in Denver
> when I was patching. I got two tapes just littered with digi and constant
> dropouts. My heads are definetly worn and quite rapidly at that. I'm
> attributing it to sony tapes as quite frankly I can't logically say it could
> have been caused by anything else. Maybe I just got a few bad ones, i
> dunno... but i do know my dat doesn't have long to live :(
>
> Zach
From: "Joe Totoraitis" <rockumal@hotmail.com>
Subject: FT: Crispy 2k2 Disco Biscuits DATs
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:46:42 -0500
I've got these tapes sitting here just taking up space if someone wants to
trade for them.
Disco Biscuits
03.29.02 FOB Schoeps ccm4v > V2 > Oade mod. SBM-1 > D8
1 x 60m 1 x 90m
Disco Biscuits
04.20.02 OTS B&K 4022 > V2 > AD-1000 > D8
1 x 60m 1 x 90m
Not looking for any db but pretty open-minded. Will trade for SEALED blanks
as well.
Joe Totoraitis -o- rockumal@hotmail.com
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From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: The Jukebox 3
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:55:25 -0400 (EDT)
Matthew V Pfeil <mattz62@juno.com> wrote:
> "I suppose we can assume that it doesn't..."
>
> Actually, we can presume it does resample - as all other creative devices
> do. It's not like Creative has ever put in the description of their
> products "THE DIGITAL INPUT RESAMPLES ALL DATA".
And since every Creative Labs sound card that I'm aware of resamples the
incoming digital data stream, there's good reason to assume that, unless
stated explicitly otherwise, that the Jukebox 3 does resample.
> ...Also, keep in mind
> there are no levels on this device. So you'll need an external pre or
> a/d that has quality levels otherwise you'll be guessing all night.
The Denecke AD-20 (aka Zefiro InBox) has a Toslink output, is compact,
and sounds quite wonderful. This might make a good match for the
Jukebox 3.
Len Moskowitz Binaural StealthMics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Mac <mhathaway@netway.com>
Subject: Re: Seeking repair options for my Sony D3 and Re: Sony DAT
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:54:16 -0400
Scott Goodwin said:
>My D3 needs service. Obviously, it's old, and it's not worth spending
much...
>Note that programs like Sony's "$250 for any repair" or whatever that
deal is aren't that useful to me, as I can buy a used D8 for
nearly that...
and John said...
>I tried to send an M1 in for repair, but Sony does NOT have a flat-rate
for the M1....
When I called Sony a few weeks ago, I was asking about the D7/D8 (can't
remember which one specifically), and that's when they said $156 (incl.
shipping). For a D3 it might be a lower flat-rate...
I just did a search of the archives, and saw this, which has some repair
places...
http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/Vendors/
I am trying to find the place in Philadelphia, and.... Hah! I just found
the old email, and the Philadelphia place IS Pro-Digital, Paul Plotnik,
610-353-2400 (this is place I mentined in a previous post, I thought there
was another one...) Their estimates covered a wider range than Sony, with
the possibility of coming in under Sony, depending one what parts you need.
Mac
From: Bob Siegl <bobsiegl@yahoo.com>
Subject: CRAZY MITCHELL's LIST!
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
Hi there guys & gals. I am on the lookout for
superior quality live
recordings (preferably FM or soundboard sources) of
some of these bands &
artists:
CRACK THE SKY
FLOGGING MOLLY
MARY CHAPIN CARPENTER
CARLEEN CARTER
THE DUCKS w NEIL YOUNG
TEMPTATIONS
BIG STAR
MIKE NESMITH
MARTI JONES
FLO & EDDIE
NO DOUBT (current tour only)
ANY TROUBLE
ANIMAL LOGIC
COWBOY MOUTH
WISHBONE ASH (early to mid 70's period only)
COLOR ME GONE
KIRSTY MACCOLL
I've got 2,600 entries on my cdr list to trade. Many
of the things I have, originated with me & have not
been widely circulated. If you can fill the void in
my collection with any of these artists, please
contact me at:
***
> mexminute@aol.com <
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Thanks,
Mitchell ^^^^^
@ @
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