DAT-heads Digest #317
Contents:
FOR SALE MBHO 603a/ka200&ka100d package ("Darrin Sacks")
3 hour DAT's? (Neal Copperman)
Re: 3 hour DAT's? (Seth Breidbart)
Monday Morning Wake Up Call...hehehe (fortyacrerock)
ISO Norah Jones (=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Barnes?=)
paul westerberg instores (Stonecutter15@aol.com)
RE: 3 hour DAT's? ("Bob Griesel")
Looking for OTHER JAZZFEST TAPERS.... (Jon Weber)
Re: Outdoor taping question/recommendation (mcmiller@radix.net)
Anyone Taping Cowboy Junkies at the 9:30 club tonight?? ("gordon wilson")
Peter Green & Carlos Santana at Bimbos (Dan Gale)
Unique problem need help. (Edward Davis)
FS: Univenture-Unikeep disc storage boxes ("Winnie Olmer")
Wanna help me fill out my 90's Dead shows attended? ("Todd & Jen Guite'")
From: "Darrin Sacks" <dsacks@pcisys.net>
Subject: FOR SALE MBHO 603a/ka200&ka100d package
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 08:20:25 -0600
FOR SALE MBHO 603a/ka200&ka100d package:
2 MBHO 603a Microphone Bodies (Matched Pair, Serial Numbers 110
and #111) with Active Cables and mic capsule clips)
2 KA 200 Cardiod Capsules (Matched Pair)
2 KA 100d Omni-diffuse field Caps -- has a slight presence boost
making them ideal for farther field recording (Matched Pair)
2 Mic Boxes
Mics, cables, capsules are in like-new condition. Original owner,
purchased new spring 2001. Digital Photographs available.
$1600 for entire package, includes shipping (w/insurance) to your
doorstep (shipping within continental US)
Shifting priorities require us to change the rig a bit......
Thanks,
Darrin (dsacks@pcisys.net)
From: Neal Copperman <neal@swcp.com>
Subject: 3 hour DAT's?
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:12:09 -0600
What do people think about 3 hour DAT's? Are there horror stories
with them, like the old longer tapes, or are people satisified with
them. 3 hours would cover pretty much every show I go to, and most
shows I could even record the opener.
neal
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 3 hour DAT's?
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:50:17 -0400 (EDT)
> What do people think about 3 hour DAT's? Are there horror stories
> with them, like the old longer tapes, or are people satisified with
> them.
Yes and yes. You pays your money and you takes your chances.
Some people have never had problems with them. Others have had them
catch fire and explode, destroying their entire town (well, not
really; but they do attribute excessive wear and damage to their decks
to the use of 3-hour tapes).
Personally, I'd prefer not to use them in decks with 1/2-size heads or
weak motors, but have no problems with them in good decks.
Seth
From: fortyacrerock <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Monday Morning Wake Up Call...hehehe
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT)
This is a list of BETA PCMs I have ready for
shipment to a lucky Individual $3 each and $20
for UPS and their Yours....OR $20 for UPS and a
bunch of pre recorded cdrs(not blanks)! Hers the
detailed List,I thought this threw: Saturday Is A
light day on Datheads and this CONTAINS too many
folks to be pretty heavy b/w, so sorry but I need
to unload these gems and what better place to do
this! These are all Sony HG-L-750's and there all
new:
5-2-70 a,1+2 sbd/2
8-6-71 1-2 62,87 AUD/M
10-19-71 1-2 91,93 FM/M
2-9-73 1-2 SBD/M
6-15-76 1-2 85,92 SBD/M
10-30-77 1-2 sbd/m
4-11-78 1-2 sbd/m
1-20-79 1-2 aud/m
(nak 700s reel)
4-16-79 1-2 sbd/m
10-27-79 1-2 sbd/m
12-27-80 1-2 sbd/m
8-28-81 1-2 aud/m
(nak 700s fob)
9-21-82 1-2 sbd/m
12-30-82 1-2 59,104 SBD/M
12-31-82 1-2 52,102 SBD/M
9-24-83 1-2 60,96 AUD/2
(2 nak 300s w/cp4s & 2 senn 441s)
4-7-84 1-2 sbd/m
4-21-84 1-2 daud
(neumann u87s 20th row 25' spread)
7-13-84 1-2 sbd/m
7-14-84 1-2 sbd/m
7-21-84 1-2 sbd/m
7-22-84 1-2 sbd/m
6-15-85 1-2 sbd/m
9-3-85 1-2 daud
(2 schoeps spaced omnis & 2 hyper cardioids)
10-28-85 1-2 sbd/m
3-27-86 1 daud
(schoeps cmc 34s fob)
3-28-86 1-2 daud
(schoeps cmc 34s fob)
3-3-87 1-2 matrix
7-12-87 1-Dylan daud
(akg 460s w c8x caps)
7-2-88 1-2 daud
(neumann U 89s fob)
7-3-88 1-2 daud
(neumann U 89s fob) daud
3-31-89 1-2 daud
(schoeps cmc 34s fob)
7-2-89 daud
(un specified schoeps fob)
7-17-89 dsb
10-9-89 sbd/m
4-3-90 daud
(sch Mk 4s fob)
6-8-90 dsb
6-9-90 dsb
6-10-90 dsb
6-17-90 dsb
6-24-90 daud
(sch cmc 421 sub cardioids t.s.)
7-16-90 dsb
12-31-90 dfm
6-7-91 dsb
9-6-91 daud
(senn 421s t.s.)
9-8-91 daud
(set 1 senn 421s set 2 sch cmc 34s)
9-9-91 daud
(senn 421s fob)
9-10-91 dsb
9-16-91 daud
(set 1 senn 421s t.s. set 2 sch cmc 32s)
9-22-91 daud
(sch cm 4s fob)
11-3-91 daud
(senn me 88s t.s.)
3-1-92 1-2 daud
(set 1 sch cmc 34s set 2 sch cmc 441s)
3-2-92 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 34s fob)
3-3-92 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 34s fob)
3-12-92 1-2 daud
(neumann tlm 170 is t.s.)
3-11-92 1-2 daud
(schoeps cmc 34s fob)
3-6-92 1-2 daud
(schoeps cmc 34s fob)
3-5-92 1-2 daud
(schoeps cmc 34s fob)
3-24-92 1-2 daud
(akg 460s 15th row dead center)
5-19-92 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 441s t.s.)
5-21-92 1-2 daud
(set 1 skg 568s t.s. set 2 sch mk4s fob)
6-6-92 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 32s spaced omnis fob)
6-8-92 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 34s)
6-15-92 1-2 daud
(b+k 4011s fob)
6-20-92 1-2 daud
(b+k 4011s fob)
6-22-92 1-2 daud
(akg 568s t.s.)
6-23-92 1-2 daud
(akg 568s t.s.)
7-1-92 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 32 spaced omnis)
3-21-93 1-2 daud
(ams st 250 fob of course!)
3-22-93 1-2 daud
(ams st 250 fob)
3-24-93 1-2 dsb
5-16-93 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 441s fob)
5-21-93 1-2 daud
(schoeps spaced omni 52s t.s.)
6-15-93 1-2 daud
(sch un/specified fob)
6-16-93 1-2 daud
(sch un/specified fob)
6-17-94 1-2 daud
(neumann 191 i's t.s.)
6-19-94 1-2 daud
(neu 191 i's t.s.)
10-9-94 1-2 daud
(akg 368s t.s.)
10-10-94 1-2 daud
(akg 368s t.s)
11-29-94 1-2 daud
(micro tech um 705s)
12-1-94 1-2 daud
(ams st 250)
3-23-95 1-2 dsb
6-21-95 1-2 daud
(sch cmc 64s fob)
These BELOW are what I call "Splitys"; shows
split onto 2 or 3 different 3hr Beta PCM Tapes:
1: 5-26-73/start/158mins/sbd/m A++!! Cantor
2: 5-26-73/end/78m/ W 10-22-78/II sbd/m/91 jbg
encore cuts Cantor
3: 2-24-74/most/172m/sbd/m
4: 6-14-76/I/92m/sbd/m/Cantor W 9-18-87/II/ dsb
5: 2-26-77/all/170m/sbd/m Cantor
6: 1-12-79/II/89m/aud/m nak 300s fob W 11-6-79/II
75m/sbd/m Cantor
7: 7-1-80/I/all/2/part/80m/sbd/m W 7-7-81/I/80m/
sbd/m
8: 8-3-82/most/165/sbd/m/some flaws from mr./
Miss 1/2 step already in progress ends @ other1
9: 9-10-83/II/81/daud/senn 441s W
5-2-70/acoustic/2nd gen campus Reels>DAT(no need
we have DP)
10: 10-15-83/II/87m/daud/senn441s fob W 10-11-83/
II/daud/senn441s>PCM>Nak 550 then back to Digital
Domain>This Beta PCM Tape so in short it has an
analog gen and becomes aud/m)!
11: 10-31-85/II/74m/daud/schoeps cardioids W
9-11-83/II/111m/daud/senn441s
12: 11-1-85/II/98m/sbd/m W 7-31-82/I/77m/sbd/m
13: 11-7-85/I/52m/sbd/m W 3-25-93/I/71m/dsb and
contains the 2nd part of JGB/5-15-94/daud/
un specified beyers(m201s?)A++!!
14: 11-7-85/II/83m/sbd/m W 3-25-93/II/102m/dsb
Thats correct 185m on 1 tape
15: 6-25-88/II/84m/daud/schoeps cmc 32 spaced
omnis/fob A++!! W Garcia Grisman/2-2-91/II/81m/
sbd/m
16: 6-30-88/II/108m/daud/schoeps cmc 32 hyper
cardioids/fob A++!! W 6-25-88/I/66m/daud/schoeps
spaced omnis/fob A++!!
17: 10-14-89/II/71m/sbd/m/no drums W 10-22-89/
II/94m/sbd/m
18: 10-26-89/II/97/sbd/m W 10-14-89/I/60m/sbd/m
19: 11-3-91
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Barnes?= <taper2000_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: ISO Norah Jones
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:41:21 +0100 (BST)
Can anyone help me with live recordings of Norah
Jones.Is anyone going to record her upcoming
MAY 15 CAMDEN DINGWALL'S LONDON or any other european
shows.Thanks
John
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From: Stonecutter15@aol.com
Subject: paul westerberg instores
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 14:55:29 EDT
hi everyone,
i'm a long time trader with tons to offer. i'm looking for any ex quality
dats or discs of paul's recent in store tour.
if you're interested in trading,please drop me a line.
thanks
rich
From: "Bob Griesel" <sundance@olywa.net>
Subject: RE: 3 hour DAT's?
Reply-To: <sundance@olywa.net>
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:33:10 -0700
I've always used 3 hour (90 meter) tapes in my Tascam DAP1
and DA20. In the Sony M1, I feel more secure when mastering
with a 2 hour tape - but I've used an occasional 3 hour. In my
computer DDS drive, everything works fine.
When you use a 3 hour in a DAT deck, the tape tension will be
off by a very small amount. Usually, the tension will still be
within the range needed for good tapes. When a deck needs
adjustment, the need for adjustment will show up first on 3 hour
tapes - while 2 hour tapes will continue to work for a while. This
leads to the incorrect conclusion that 3 hour tapes wear the deck
out faster and require service more often. Not true. Its just that
if you want to use 3 hour tapes in a deck that was intended for
2 hour tapes, you must keep it in a more perfect state of tune.
The deck hasn't been harmed in any way, and you haven't
changed the amount of time it will run between service for 2
hour tapes. By running 3 hour tapes you narrow the range of
correct tension values, therefore the tension will need to be
adjusted more often to stay within this narrower range. No big
deal, and the cost of more frequent service is more than made
up by the lower cost of tapes and the convenience of running
more than 2 hours without interruption.
The 2 hour vs. 3 hour discussion has been raging for years -
There is no shortage of both rational and irrational opinion about
it. In the end, each DAT owner does what works for good tapes
and a satisfied mind.
Bob
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"People need celebration in their life. We need magic.
And bliss. . . its a part of the basic human experience. . ."
Jerry Garcia, 1989
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neal Copperman [mailto:neal@swcp.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:12 AM
> To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
> Subject: 3 hour DAT's?
>
>
> What do people think about 3 hour DAT's? Are there horror stories
> with them, like the old longer tapes, or are people satisified with
> them. 3 hours would cover pretty much every show I go to, and most
> shows I could even record the opener.
>
> neal
>
From: Jon Weber <weberwest@go.com>
Subject: Looking for OTHER JAZZFEST TAPERS....
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT)
Hi there, got some really great tapes last week at
Jazzfest and was hoping to hook up with some tapes
of some shows I missed. I'm looking for the
following :
Claypool/Mike Clark Superjam @ Howlin Wolf
Charlie Hunter/Will Bernard/Melvin Sparks Superjam @ Blue Nile
MMW @ Saenger
Galactic/Jack Johnson @ Saenger
Project Logic late @ Howlin Wolf
JFJO late @ HOB Parish
I was the lone taper for many of the shows I taped
so please get in touch as I'm sure I'll be able to help
you out with some serious goods in exchange...
Garaj Mahal, Will Bernard & Motherbug,
JFJO, Vida Blue, New Deal, Garage a Trois, fairgrounds....
please get in touch if you can help out.
cheers,
jon
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From: mcmiller@radix.net
Subject: Re: Outdoor taping question/recommendation
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 20:09:39 -0400
> From: "Joe Sweetser" <sweets@rootgroup.com>
>
> Looking for recommendations on how to keep gear dry.
>
The best thing I've found is 8x10 sheet of heavy clear plastic
that is sold as drop covers for painting. You can get these at
Home Depot for about $1.50. Get the heavy duty plastic; the
stuff is nearly bullet proof. You can cut it into smaller
pieces if you prefer. They come rolled and pack small and are
light weight. I usually put the plactic down, my gear on top
and then fold a big flap of clear plastic over my equipment.
This keeps it dry on all sides and you can monitor your gear
and adjust levels through the clear plastic. You can reach
under and change tapes without uncovering your rig. I've done
this a dozen times and nothing ever gets wet. I ususally carry
more than one roll. One roll can protect a whole group of
tapers if everyone is grouped tightly. And having an extra
sheet can be very nice to hide under if the rain gets too
heavy.
From: "gordon wilson" <gordonlw@mindspring.com>
Subject: Anyone Taping Cowboy Junkies at the 9:30 club tonight??
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 01:20:54 -0400
Wondering if anyone in the DC area is planning on taping. The band allows
open taping (stands and FOB). They are playing Sunday night at the 9:30
club. I am driving up from NC and would love a patch. Hope to see someone
there.
Gordon
"A fool and his money are soon parted. I would pay anyone a lot of money to
explain that one to me."
Homer J Simpson
From: Dan Gale <dgale@loslobos.org>
Subject: Peter Green & Carlos Santana at Bimbos
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 00:56:10 -0700
Did anybody catch the Peter Green show at Bimbos in SF last Friday? I
heard Carlos Santana showed up and jammed with him...I'd definitely love
a copy if anybody captured this one - tons to trade, please get in touch
if so.
From: Edward Davis <niceguy1222@earthlink.net>
Subject: Unique problem need help.
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 01:20:47 -0700
Well,
I was taping Promise Ring tonight and encountered a weird problem with
the tape and since this is the second time it has occurred I figured I'd
post here to see if anyone might be able to explain it for me. First
off I am using an M1>Core Sound high End Binaurals. Here is what
happened: There are several spots on my tape where it pretty much sounds
like the mic connection is coming out. Both channels sound as if they
are being unplugged. As a result the sounds drops and comes back
repeatedly. The sound goes from the low to high a bunch of times until
it finally returns to regular sound. The weird thing is that on my
level gauge the levels are unchanged and it appears that the tape is
just fine. I figure that if it were a problem with the mics, the levels
would be going crazy. However, they remain steady without the slightest
change during the entire problem period. After about a minute the
problem seems to fix itself and the tape is fine for a while until it
happens again without warning. So I am curious, does this sound like a
problem with the mice input? If so my deck is under warranty so i will
have it fixed. If it sounds like a mic problem I will have to send them
in. I just really don't want to waste the time and money sending
something in that does not need repairing. Well, any info would be
greatly appreciated. Also, if you are interested in a copy of the tape
let me know. Besides the few trouble spots it is an amazing tape.
Thanks,
Ed
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You're going sane in a crazy world."
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From: "Winnie Olmer" <who@sover.net>
Subject: FS: Univenture-Unikeep disc storage boxes
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 07:49:23 -0400
I am changing how I store my CD's. I have 20 of these (200 CD's). They
hold 10 CD's per box in special protective sleeves similar to
ProSleeves. They call theirs "Safety Sleeve". I bought these
2 months ago. They are clean and like new. I just numbered
them. But you can print your own new box covers. Much like
printing CD jewel case inserts. The box has two rings that
allow the CD sleeves to be removed. These sell for $46 +
shipping. I'd like to get $30 + shipping. Check them out at
the Univenture web site. Go to the "Unikeeps Disc Wallets",
then the "Unikeeps Disc 10".
They have a Microsoft Word Template which can be used to
print new box covers. The entire box has a thick vinyl sleeve
which the new labels can be inserted into.
http://www.univenture.com/
Winnie
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From: "Todd & Jen Guite'" <guite917@suscom-maine.net>
Subject: Wanna help me fill out my 90's Dead shows attended?
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 08:48:31 -0400
I am really looking to complete an archive of the shows I attended, have
just these few left, can anybody help? I can trade cds or B&P dats. I
can accept eithier way, perfer cd, but not picky! Have good sized cd
list of all kinds of bands, not just Dead. Thanks for any help
Dead:3/28/94,9/29/93,6/19/93,4/5/93,3/25/93,
3/11/92,3/9/92,3/8/92,9/9/91,6/16/91,9/2/79
JGB Shows:11/19/91,6/20/82,9/13/89
Thanks for any help!
Todd
Email:guite917@suscom-maine.net
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