DAT-heads Digest #319, Volume #6 Tue, 14 May 02 08:50:00 EDT Contents: FS: ZA2 (Ethan) Garbage 5/9 Chicago ("Thomas Avallone") MeShell ("Matt") ISO: Mike Keneally broadcast (Steve.Wren@ing-dm.com) last-minute taping request for The Cranes at Ameoba Monday night (GaoBest@aol.com) Nomad jukebox3 review ("Jamie Lutch") Re: Cure for bad traders (Eduardo Malvido) Paul McCartney MCI Center 2002 ("Brian Dowling") fs: d8 original box/manual/ext. warranty (Blackpete@aol.com) extra dats to trade ("alf") ISO Oasis Coahcella dn HRock (jcarvalh) ISO: The Roots Mos Def (jcarvalh) 2 Phil and Friends extra for 5/21 Late show to trade for early show (DATJAMS@aol.com) Paul McCartney B+P ("TCH") Summation: Outdoor taping question/recommendation ("Joe Sweetser") Rio Theatre Santa Cruz ("lee bittner") Weird clipping levels (Neal Copperman) ailing DA-P1 (Tony Round) World Cafe, Paul Kelly (Nadyne Mielke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ethan Subject: FS: ZA2 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT) I'm switching to a usb based system and wish to part with my perfectly working ZA2. Comes with the manual, updated driver disk and breakout cable. $100 ono (cost 3-400 a few years ago). Note: this is an ISA card...you will need an ISA slot to use it. EThan ===== "God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural fluids" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Thomas Avallone" Subject: Garbage 5/9 Chicago Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:36:48 +0000 I got a pretty good recording of Garbage from The Riviera in Chicago, and I'm seeking other Garbage recordings from this recent tour. CDR only - but will accept shows on DAT for trade (which I will trade double). Setlist/recording info here: http://www.tav2367.20m.com/photo3.html Tom "I've heard there's joy untold Lays open like a road In front of me" ~ PJ Harvey http://www.tav2367.20m.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ From: "Matt" Subject: MeShell Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:12:14 -0600 Is anyone taping her on her current tour? I imagine it will need to be stealthed, and I don't think I'm going to be able to make it (maybe...). I'd love to hear how she's sounding these days. I have an old radio appearance from an analog master and a unknown sourced sbd-sounding "Europe 96" bootleg if anyone's interested in trading for whatever new stuff you've taped. Matt ------------------------------ From: Steve.Wren@ing-dm.com Subject: ISO: Mike Keneally broadcast Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:37:53 -0500 Did anyone happen to tape the Mike Keneally broadcast on the Netherlands NPS? Here is a clip from The San Diego Union-Tribune (Sunday - May 12, 2002): <<. . .LOCAL GUITAR LEGEND GETS DUTCH STAR STATUS By George Varga, Pop Music Critic Mike Keneally is a local legend thanks to his collaborations with such music luminaries as Frank Zappa, Steve Vai, Robert Fripp and Screamin' Jay Hawkins. But the San Diego guitar wiz is a national presence in the Netherlands, where NPS (the Dutch equivalent of National Public Radio) will devote five hours of nonstop programming today to Keneally and his music on its national 4FM outlet. The commercial-free special, "Mike Keneally Nite," will feature two concerts in their entirety that he and his band performed last fall in the Netherlands, plus 90 minutes of interview segments. San Diego fans can hear today's broadcast - 80 percent of which will be in English - on the Web (at http://www.nps.nl/4fm), beginning at 11 a.m. [Pacific Time]. . .>> If you taped any portion of this - I would be interested in a copy. Please contact off-list. thanks, Steve Wren WOB: Mystery Mule 3-shows, all in 2002. Up to six winners can choose one when notified for b&p. ------------------------------ From: GaoBest@aol.com Subject: last-minute taping request for The Cranes at Ameoba Monday night Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:06:59 EDT Hey people Very last minute, but can anybody tpae The Cranes who will perform at Amoeba tonight (Monday) in San Francisco around 6pm? I have some last-minute stuff I have to take care of tonight, and can't go. Also they play at Slim's with opening badn on Tuesday, can anyone tape both artists? I'm not really a Cranes fan but have some first/second gen tapes from analog master of their early '90s shows, as well as my own analog masters of Ride/slowdive (1992) plus loads other britpop/shoegaze/deathmetal/grunge/boyband/overallshit music available for trade etc. Also are there any freeware for copying VCD with an Imac computer? And for an imac, is Toast best for copying cdr, or is there another program to use that is free? I also have several b/p people sent to me, many thanks and I need more time to finish your b/p, but I did warn 1 to 450 (or was it 150?) days leadtime/etc. I'm trying to finish up on trades first, out of fairness. Thanks a million everyone! Cheers Michael Siou ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: Nomad jukebox3 review Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:13:41 -0700 DATs not dead yet (tho I wish it were, this would be awesome if it worked....) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/laptop-tapers/message/1817 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002 ------------------------------ From: Eduardo Malvido Subject: Re: Cure for bad traders Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:20:51 -0700 (PDT) I hate posting Bad trades but It happened to me I got ripped by this guy from Vancouver Canada, who ripped me on a DAT trade in January 2002..... here is the story! Its not worth mentioning who it is, but is an active member of the DAT heads board. Set up a 3 DAT trade, sent him, he recived, and after 2 months I asked him about my part of the deal and he responded: "I dont remember exactly but they should be there soon . no reg # you didnt send registered so neither did I" This is complete lie! I sent registered! I kindly told him, for a deadline to recive my tapes, (his part of the deal) otherwise please re-tape them and this time re-send them registered. His answer was: "send me your address I'm not re cloning the tapes however i'm returning the ones you sent. ONE - has digi noise @ the start THE OTHER is on LP and as such is useless I cant trade an lp tape and finally the THIRD tape I didnt bother with . I'll send them registered to ensure they arrive." Basically he tells me that my tapes suck! If my tapes are that bad, he listed them in his trade site as excellent? The Guy cloned my tapes and re-sent them back to me I didnt got anything in return! Just my story............ Ed :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Brian Dowling" Subject: Paul McCartney MCI Center 2002 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:58:46 -0400 I am looking for a clone of Paul McCartney at the MCI Center recently for a friend of mine. have lots to trade in return. Brian ------------------------------ From: Blackpete@aol.com Subject: fs: d8 original box/manual/ext. warranty Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:01:54 -0400 ssia; excellent cosmetic condition, moderate hours(guessing at 300 or so)mechanically perfect. Comes with balance of 5 year extended warranty, covers any repair, expires 12/03. Also comes with original box, manual, leatherette case. is NOT missing the battery cage. For 400 bucks I'll throw in a two battery sigma ecocharge 6volt system, with charger and one standard d/c power cable, and I'll cover shipping and insurance. Please email privately at blackpete@aol.com. Thanks, Marc. ------------------------------ From: "alf" Subject: extra dats to trade Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:50:40 +0200 As subject says, have the following 4 fresh dats, just received in trade, and cloned into cd, that I would trade all 4 dats are MAXELL audio 1 DAT CROSBY,STILLS,NASH & YOUNG 2/13/2002 Air Canada Center, Toronto, Ontario, Canada 163m. DAUD ss.DSM6s>PA6LC3 1 DAT STEVE HACKETT 1/12/2002 TLG, Tokyo, Japan 110m. DAUD Sennheiser-MKE2 (note : between 1st and 2nd set there's about 8 minutes of crowds sound) 1 DAT PAUL WELLER feat.Jimmy Page & Roger Daltrey 2/9/2002 Teenage Cancer Trust benefit, Royal Albert Hall,London,UK DAUD SANKEN.COS-11 1 DAT WHO 2/8/2002 Teenage Cancer Trust benefit, Royal Albert Hall,London,UK DAUD SANKEN.COS-11 (one d.o) ROBERT PLANT & The Strange Sensation 2/9/2002 Teenage Cancer Trust benefit, Royal Albert Hall,London,UK 41m. DAUD SANKEN.COS-11 if interested send your list Alf ------------------------------ From: jcarvalh Subject: ISO Oasis Coahcella dn HRock Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Anyone capture these gigs? Please email me privately.... regards --- Jeff http://www.dropform.com/ ------------------------------ From: jcarvalh Subject: ISO: The Roots Mos Def Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Any live goodies from these two available? Thanks in advance... musch to trade... --- Jeff http://www.dropform.com/ ------------------------------ From: DATJAMS@aol.com Subject: 2 Phil and Friends extra for 5/21 Late show to trade for early show Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:02:03 EDT Hey, all. We were first on line and the early show was sold out, so we took what we could get, which was two late show tickets. We're too old to stay up that late, so we want to trade for early show for the same night. We can hook up in NYC or in Essex County, NJ. Carl Mink ------------------------------ From: "TCH" Subject: Paul McCartney B+P Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:44:15 -0500 Just got 4-16-02 Philadelphia,PA from Matt Urban! I will do a B+P for the first 10 people that are interested because of the overwhelming response Matt got. hujar@ev1.net Tom ------------------------------ From: "Joe Sweetser" Subject: Summation: Outdoor taping question/recommendation Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:54:21 -0600 Thanks to all who responded! Here's a synopsis: First, you must decide if it's really worth taping in a big storm. More than one person sent me a message saying they learned their lesson the hard way - they fried their equipment while "taping in wetness". And they will not be taping in the rain ever again (understandably). For those intrepid souls who are lucky enough to not have had that happen, the answers were varied. Everything from lawn/leaf bags (thick ones, no plain garbage bags was the main recommendation - and double bag in case of tears), camping=20 tarps (even in a teepee setup around the mic stand!), and dry bags (the kind made for kayaking or canoeing). Bring lots of tape to seal the bag around the cable. As far as mics, most people seem to use the stroller umbrellas. I think they can be picked up relatively cheap at Toys R Us or stores like that. Got some warnings about these too - they can make your stand airborn in a good wind so be sure to tape/secure your stand. One person said they have never heard the raindrops hitting the umbrella except when the band wasn't playing. Others said the rain was noise was evident on their tapes. YMMV. Some people wrap their mic bodies in plastic/saran wrap - one person recommended using condoms (unlubricated, of course!). Most said they used over-size windscreens for the caps, if they mentioned mics at all. Me? If it's raining hard on the way in, I'm probably just gonna bag taping and dance. If the rain hits during the show, I'm gonna go with the dry bag, saran wrap, windscreens, and umbrella(s). And, hopefully, I'll never have to find out how it works. :-) Here are some links for more info: http://www.cascadedesigns.com=20 http://www.campmor.com/cgi-bin/redir?prod=3D68022 Good thread on rain taping: http://64.27.110.248/cgi-bin/miva?Forum/viewthread.mv+thread=3D10591&mess= age=3D10 792 Thanks again, everyone. I really appreciate it. joe ------------------------------ From: "lee bittner" Subject: Rio Theatre Santa Cruz Reply-To: southsur@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:55:02 -0700 Anyone able to give me me any info on this venue? I am on the other side of Big Sur, and don't get North too often. (Nor South, for that matter.) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Subject: Weird clipping levels Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:15:14 -0600 I've made a few recordings recently where the sound has clipped lower then I expect it to. Typically 2 or 3 db down from 0. I haven't changed any of the settings on my DAT (a PCM-M1). The first time I thought I might have set the filter switch on the mic, so I chalked it up to operator error. Now I'm looking at recordings made with a pair of core sounds clip-on mics, and there isn't any switches I could screw up. The first few songs were recorded a little high, and clipping occurs on the peaks as I'd expect, particularly on the audience applause. After I turned the level down, the recording sounds much better, but whenever I get up to around -2 or -3 db, it starts clipping. This is lower then where it was clipping on the earlier part of the tape. The waveforms of the first few songs go all the way up to 0 db, while the waveforms on the later songs never get above roughly -3 db and will clip there. This is particularly frustrating as my levels look ok on the display but my recording sounds crummy. Can anyone give me some suggestions on what I'm doing wrong? If I overdrive things at the beginning, does it somehow affect recording levels for the rest of the recording? (That doesn't sound right to me.) One other thing that is different from previous recordings is that I was re-using tapes. They'd only been recorded on once. It's hard for me to imagine how that would impact anything though. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, neal ------------------------------ From: Tony Round Subject: ailing DA-P1 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:47:28 -0700 (PDT) recently hit the power button on my DA-P1 only to have the lid pop open and the power button stop working. No matter what I try, the lid won't latch - the only way to turn it off is to switch the charge/operate or hold the power button for several seconds. when i turn it on now, a quiet whirring issues constantly from within only to change to a high squeal after 15+ seconds. it won't recognize any tape. anyone experienced similar problems????? i'm greatly at a loss without the bloody thing. many thanks for any help, tony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: World Cafe, Paul Kelly Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:17:03 -0700 Hello, I'm looking for a kind soul whose NPR station airs World Cafe, and can tape Paul Kelly's performance on that show. It's scheduled to air on 15 May 2002. Also, I'm looking to get my hands on any other Paul Kelly performances. I taped his performance in San Francisco last month, but the tape came out pretty badly (my deck has been in storage for more than a year, I used it without testing it first -- I know, I know, bad taper!). If anyone is really desperate for it, and no-one else taped, I'll convert it to CD and trade it out. Otherwise, I'll be happy to do a B&P or trade for other material. Thanks in advance. :) /nm ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************