DAT-heads Digest #342, Volume #6 Tue, 4 Jun 02 02:50:01 EDT Contents: Where to find part #'s for TCD-D7? ("Sullivan, Nick") DAT/DDS tapes... ("steven wolf") DAT Drives or Decks? (Kevin) sorry for the excess ("Jason Crouch") David Baerwald tour dates - taper friendly (D Heatherly) Re: Where to find part #'s for TCD-D7? (Sean Kennedy) Taping at the Gorge this summer? ("cream of mushroom") J Browne/Nrbq FL 2002 shows wtd ("paul gluchanicz") dio 2448 problems ("Oleg Grinshpan") ISO: Bonaroo Ticket ("Rory Heller") OKMII/R front side of the capsule point inside? (Eduardo Malvido) Got Nice Garbage! June 2, 2002 (Chris) Re: De-emphasis Freeware? (Bob Ramstad) CUTTHROATS 9 June 1 & 2, 2002 Chicago!! trade offers? ("geoff/morgan") fs: denecke ad-20 and power supply (William Draper) extra cd's for grabs ("brian durham") Computer Audio Capable DAT Drive & Windows XP ("Imgoinmad") HELP! ("MMW") Magnetic Shielded Foam (Rbglea@aol.com) looking for a new/used ecocharge for my d7/d8. ("Hayden Berard") Re: Magnetic Shielded Foam (David Carmean) ISO: DAT Labeling Program ("Chris Black") Re: compressor/limiter for field recording? (Greg Teltschik) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sullivan, Nick" Subject: Where to find part #'s for TCD-D7? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:04:12 -0400 SSdtIGluIG5lZWQgb2YgdGhlIGJhdHRlcnkgc2xlZCBmb3IgbXkgRDcsIEkndmUgZm91bmQgYSBz aXRlIG9uIGxpbmUNCndoaWNoIGhhcyBkYW1uIG5lYXIgZXZlcnkgcGFydCBmb3IgYSBENyAoZXZl cnl0aGluZyBmcm9tIHRoZSBwYXVzZQ0KYnV0dG9uIHRvIGxpa2UgcmVzaXN0b3JzIGFuZCBjcmFw LCBhbGwgT0VNIE5FVyBzbyB0aGV5IHNheSkuICBDaGVjayBpdCBvdXQgYXQgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5w YXJ0c2VhcmNoZGlyZWN0LmNvbS4NCg0KSGVyZSdzIHdoYXQgSSd2ZSBmb3VuZCB0aGF0ICptaWdo dCogYmUgd2hhdCBJJ20gbG9va2luZyBmb3IgYnV0IHRoZQ0Kc2l0ZSdzIGxlc3MgdGhlbiBkZXNj cmlwdGl2ZSwgd2l0aCBubyBwaWN0dXJlcy4gIEkgbmVlZCB0aGUgcGFydCAjIHNvIEkga25vdyBJ J20gZ2V0dGluZyB3aGF0IEkgbmVlZC4uDQoNCkJyYW5kOiBTb255IA0KRGVzY3JpcHRpb246IENB U0UgQVNTWSAoU0VSVklDRSksIEJBVFQgDQpQYXJ0ICM6IFg0OTUwNTM4MSANClByaWNlOiAkMjgu MTENCg0KQnJhbmQ6IFNvbnkgDQpEZXNjcmlwdGlvbjogTElEIEFTU1ksIEJBVFRFUlkgQ0FTRSAg DQpQYXJ0ICM6IFgzMzY2NDY2MSANClByaWNlOiAkNi41Ng0KDQpDdXJpb3VzIHRvbywgYXMgdGhl eSBoYXZlIHRoZSBSSy1EQTEwUCdzIGluIHN0b2NrLiAgQ2FuIEkgdXNlIHRoaXMNCmZvciBhIEQ3 PyAgSSBrbm93IGl0IHdhcyBtYWRlIGZvciB0aGUgTTEncyBhbmQgRDEwMCdzIHdpdGggaGlnaGVy DQp2b2x0YWdlIGJ1dCB0aG91Z2h0IEknZCBhc2sgYXMgdGhleSBzZWVtIGhhcmQgdG8gY29tZSBi eS4uLiAgVGhpcyBpcw0KYSBzdHJpY3RseSBpbnB1dHRpbmcgY2FibGUgY29ycmVjdD8gIFdvdWxk IHRoaXMgYmUgd2hhdCBJIHdhbnQgZm9yIHBhdGNoaW5nPyAgDQoNCkkndmUgYWxzbyBmb3VuZCBh bm90aGVyIHNpdGUgd2hpY2ggaGFzIGFsbCBzb3J0cyBvZiBzb255IGNhYmxpbmcgKGFwcGFyZW50 bHksIGhhdmVuJ3QgY2FsbGVkIHRvIHNlZSBpZiBpdCdzIHRydWx5IG91dGRhdGVkKSBidXQgd291 bGQgb25lIG9yIG1vcmUgb2YgdGhlc2UgZml0IG15IGFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIHdlbGwgZm9yIGdldHRp bmcgYW5kIGdpdmluZyBwYXRjaGVzIHVzaW5nIHRoZSBwcm9wcml0YXJ5IDdwaW4gY29ubmVjdGlv bj8NCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWFhY2FtZXJhLmNvbS9kYXRfd2Fsa21hbl9hY2Nlc3Nvcmllcy5odG1s IA0KDQpTb3JyeSBmb3IgdGhlIG5ld2JpZSBxdWVzdGlvbnMsIEkndmUgY29uc3VsdGVkIHRoZSA3 cGluIGJpYmxlLCB0aGUgYmlnIEQ3LzggcmVzb3VyY2UgcGFnZSwgYW5kIGFueXRoaW5nIGVsc2Ug SSBjb3VsZCBzY3JvdW5nZSB1cCB0aGlzIHdlZWtlbmQgYnV0IHN0aWxsIGEgbGl0dGxlIHNoYWtl eSBvbiB3aGF0IEkgbmVlZCB0byBwYXRjaC9naXZlIGEgcGF0Y2gsIGV0Yy4uDQoNCk11Y2ggdGhh bmtzIGluIGFkdmFuY2UhDQpOaWNrDQo= ------------------------------ From: "steven wolf" Subject: DAT/DDS tapes... Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:17:06 -0400 Hey there I have been reading recent reports about Sony DAT/DDS tapes and that they were down the heads more so than other brands... I have a few questions to ask you all knowing DAT Old TImers... 1) Where can I buy Other Brands of DAT/DDS media...and what are some good brands and such...Masterpiece, Sonic, Etc...Sell Sony from what Im aware of... 2) What is the deal w/ 90m Tapes...Why do some tapers Say that they are bad for the Deck.... thanx in advance Steve _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Kevin Subject: DAT Drives or Decks? Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:23:42 -0400 I'm just wondering if getting a DAT drive for my computer would be a more logical choice than a deck for my stereo system. If I get a computer based deck (like the SGI) wouldn't I be able to pull my audio straight from it without the resampling issues normally associated with pulling into a sound card? Can anyone point me toward the options for PC decks and what software I would need to consider? Thanks, Kevin -:- Kevin Kimmell -:-:- mace@externalis.com -:- ------------------------------ From: "Jason Crouch" Subject: sorry for the excess Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:30:05 -0400 Sorry in advance for the inadvertant excess of digest posts It's just monday morning, cut a brother some slack. Back to a red bull and mountain dew cocktail... Jason C. Crouch American-Digital 25 Van Zant St. Suite 1A Norwalk, CT 06855 1-203-838-9992 - direct line 1-888-872-3287 - toll free www.american-digital.com AIM: AmDigJason jason@am-dig.com ------------------------------ From: D Heatherly Subject: David Baerwald tour dates - taper friendly Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:28:17 -0400 David Baerwald (of David + David and now solo) will be touring through the= =20 month of June. He's very taper friendly. If you haven't heard from him in= =20 a while - he's got a good backing band (the New Folk Underground) and a new= =20 CD coming out in July. Check out the fan site www.dbinfosource.com for=20 more on the tour. Mon-Jun-03 New Orleans Parish Tue-Jun-04 Atlanta Red Light Caf=E9 Thu-Jun-06 Nashville 12th & Porter Fri-Jun-07 Raleigh Lincoln Theatre Sun-Jun-09 Baltimore Fletchers Mon-Jun-10 Washington DC Iota Tue-Jun-11 New York Village Underground Wed-Jun-12 Philadelphia North Star Thu-Jun-13 Boston The Attic Fri-Jun-14 Rochester East End festival - Montage stage Sun-Jun-16 Cleveland Peabody's Mon-Jun-17 Detroit Magic Bag Tue-Jun-18 Chicago Abbey Wed-Jun-19 Minneapolis Fineline (seated) Thu-Jun-20 St Louis Blueberry Hill Sat-Jun-22 Denver Soiled Dove Tue-Jun-25 Portland Blackbird Wed-Jun-26 Seattle I-Spy Fri-Jun-28 San Francisco Slims Sat-Jun-29 Santa Barbara Soho Sun-Jun-30 Los Angeles The Mint Mon-Jul-01 Los Angeles The Mint Wed-Jul-03 Phoenix Cajun House (seated) Fri-Jul-05 Dallas Gypsy Tea Room Sat Jul 6 Austin Steamboat <---End Of File---> ------------------------------ From: Sean Kennedy Subject: Re: Where to find part #'s for TCD-D7? Reply-To: Sean Kennedy Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 10:56:32 -0400 --On Monday, June 03, 2002 10:04 AM -0400 "Sullivan, Nick" wrote: > I've also found another site which has all sorts of sony cabling > (apparently, haven't called to see if it's truly outdated) but would one > or more of these fit my application well for getting and giving patches > using the propritary 7pin connection? > http://www.aaacamera.com/dat_walkman_accessories.html For what its worth, I did a search on "aaacamera.com bait" to see what people said about them and there is a lot of negative feedback, plus a mention of BBB Unsatisfactory rating. Beware. Sean ------------------------------ From: "cream of mushroom" Subject: Taping at the Gorge this summer? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:11:56 -0700 I was hoping that if anyone already has or plans on trying to tape any shows @ The Gorge this summer if they could let us know whether or not they're using metal detectors of any kind. I've stealthed succesfully there twice and would like to try taping Rush in Sept. but won't waste my time if the wands are present. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ From: "paul gluchanicz" Subject: J Browne/Nrbq FL 2002 shows wtd Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:08:50 +0000 looking for any Jackson Browne/NRBQ from their recent shows, speciall Jackson in Pompano and NRBQ in Hollywood, FL. Plenty of both to trade. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Oleg Grinshpan" Subject: dio 2448 problems Reply-To: "Oleg Grinshpan" Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:57:16 -0700 sorry if this is off topic, bandwith tax below. could someone familiar with this card please contact me privately. i am having "issues", mainly dropping bits of data when recording . tax: elvis and or trey 5-26-02 on cdr (obviously after fix) free, one to person helping with card, one to 1st request. thanks. ------------------------------ From: "Rory Heller" Subject: ISO: Bonaroo Ticket Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 14:40:33 -0400 I'm lookin for a ticket to the Bonaroo! If you have an extra, drop me a line. Thanks, Rory _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ From: Eduardo Malvido Subject: OKMII/R front side of the capsule point inside? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Hello Recently I read this at a microphones reviews page "I made the experience that wearing in your ear it is better to let the front side of the capsule point inside, that means that the sound wave reaches the back of the capsule first." This means pointing them towards your ear right? Anyone with their OKM´s have tested, done this? results? Any info appreciated Ed :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Chris Subject: Got Nice Garbage! June 2, 2002 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Got both Garbage and Abandoned Pools (anyone have their setlist?) June 2, 2002. SoundPro Hypers 933>Batt Box>M1 from row 15 Unidecker so only SHN or Audio CD's to send. Also got recently Alanis and Ryan Adams 05/09/02 Bush 04/03/02 Still in search of.. The Pretenders September 4th 1981 COMPLETE! 2 CD's(with Precious), The Police at the US Festival, September 9th 1982 COMPLETE! The Police August 23, 1981 / Oakville, Ont. (The 1st Police Picnic) or...HQ Smashing Pumpkins, Mellon Collie era Soundboard Weezer (FM/Whatever?) The Cars Van Halen X Sting Nirvana __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Bob Ramstad Subject: Re: De-emphasis Freeware? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:05:58 -0700 There appears to be some confusion. 1) Pre-emphasis has nothing to do with LP mode. Two completely different things. SoX (a free package for Linux) can remove pre-emphasis by doing a digital equalization on it. 2) LP mode is a non linear digital mapping from the conventional linear digital PCM encoding. It's only used for storage and not for transmission of data. In all of this, the important question is how the recording is transferred from the DAT to your computer? If you are using an analog connection, both emphasis and LP mode issues have already been taken care of. (Of course, there may be some degradation in the quality of the signal, but that's a common problem with any analog transfer.) If you are using a digital connection (coax or optical), the playback deck should automatically translate LP mode into regular PCM data, so you'd only need to deal with emphasis. You'll need to make sure that the card in your computer senses emphasis and handles it correctly, or manually figure out which tapes have emphasis and apply a correction to the data files. This also applies for USB digital audio systems. If you are using something else, like a DDS DAT, you'll need to deal with both emphasis and LP mode in the software used for the DDS drive. I hope this information helps. Good luck! -- Bob ------------------------------ From: "geoff/morgan" Subject: CUTTHROATS 9 June 1 & 2, 2002 Chicago!! trade offers? Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:05:12 -0600 I taped Cutthroats 9 this past Saturday and Sunday in Chicago. Both shows sound great. D7/Sonic Studios DSm-6/PA6. Anyone interested?? looking for noisy stuff, Japanese noise, Shellac shows.If you send a list paste it into the message. Thanks ------------------------------ From: William Draper Subject: fs: denecke ad-20 and power supply Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 18:02:50 -0400 the ad-20 has been used for about 30 hours, and power supply has been used for only 2 hours. the power supply holds 5 9v batteries, and will power the ad-20 for god only knows how long. the power supply was made by the sound professionals (http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=560&it em=SP-9VDC-2&type=store, not one of my home "rigs"). asking $350 (obo of course). i'm eventually going to put this on ebay if no one wants it, but i thought i'd try to keep it "in the family". :) wed ------------------------------ From: "brian durham" Subject: extra cd's for grabs Reply-To: durham_b@msn.com Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:57:00 -0400 hey now, i have extra grateful dead 10-9-89 FOB Oade source (normailzed before hitting cd in soundforge)-3 cd's raq-3-7-02 schoeps cmc64>psp-3>ad1000 3 cd's les claypool 05-03-02 2 cd's send a list if you're interested in a trade, -bry going where the climate suits my clothes, -bry dat list: http://www.geocities.com/jadedphan/datlist.html cd-r list: http://www.geocities.com/jadedphan/cdrlist.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ From: "Imgoinmad" Subject: Computer Audio Capable DAT Drive & Windows XP Reply-To: "Imgoinmad" Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 19:44:49 -0700 I haven't been able to get my computer dat drive to function with either vdat or dat2wav since I installed windows XP. Is anyone out there successfully using either software with XP? Num Adapters = 3 Ho/ID/Lu Manufac Model Rev Type ========================================================= 2,2,0 ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX 5.63 Tape Error Message from dat2wav: DAT2WAV - version 1.1 - Copyright 1999/2000 Computall Services Found drive ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX5.63 Setting drive in audio mode: done ASPI request error: 4, sense key: 0x8, asc: 0x30, ascq: 0x1 Saving audio track# 1 in file:TOMMYS1.wav ASPI request error: 4, sense key: 0x8, asc: 0x30, ascq: 0x1 read audio block failed I've got Adaptec ASPI version 4.70 installed (upgraded when 4.6 didn't work). Sure would love to hear from somebody willing to help out. Please email me off-list, thanks! Phil imgoinmad@attbi.com ------------------------------ From: "MMW" Subject: HELP! Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 21:42:44 -0500 Hi, I was wondering if someone on this fine list can point me to how I can subscribe to a CDR / CD burning list. Better yet, if someone who uses Feurio! to burn their discs from SHNs can tell me why every time I try to burn a disc that is close to 80 minutes, it flakes out. Everything else burns fine, just the discs that run close to 80 minutes (by a minute or two). And yes, I am using 80 minute CDRs and yes, my setting is set to 80 minutes on the software. Sorry for the lack of DAT content. Please email me directly with any help. BWT, Philadelphia Experiment - Bowery Ballroom 12.14.01 - MBHO 603>KA200 Cards>MP-2>SBM-1 on 2 CDRs (sorry no DAT) Thanks! ------------------------------ From: Rbglea@aol.com Subject: Magnetic Shielded Foam Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:42:05 EDT Hi All, A few weeks back I purchased a pair of steel DDS tape carrying cases which use magnetically shielded foam for protection. I'm interested in buying shielded foam to protect tapes I have in boxes from magnetic fields. Does anyone know where I could purchase this foam? Any help would be very much appreciated. TIA, Rob ------------------------------ From: "Hayden Berard" Subject: looking for a new/used ecocharge for my d7/d8. Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:46:23 -0400 I am looking to buy a new/used ecorcharge battery system for my d7/d8. Please email me. DMBHDB@hotmail.com Hayden Berard aim: DMBHDB www.insidewantsout.com "Nothing makes white folks happier then a new Dave Matthews Band album." MAXIM http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?dept_id=771&band_id=341 ------------------------------ From: David Carmean Subject: Re: Magnetic Shielded Foam Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:48:38 -0700 On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:42:05PM -0400, Rbglea@aol.com wrote: > Hi All, > > A few weeks back I purchased a pair of steel DDS tape carrying cases which > use magnetically shielded foam for protection. I'm interested in buying > shielded foam to protect tapes I have in boxes from magnetic fields. Does > anyone know where I could purchase this foam? Any help would be very much > appreciated. You won't find any such thing. You might have conductive foam that has some electrostatic shielding, but to keep out pure magnetic flux you need *lots* of ferrous metal or somewhat less but more expensive "mu-metal". ------------------------------ From: "Chris Black" Subject: ISO: DAT Labeling Program Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 01:29:55 -0400 Hey All, SSIA...I'm looking for a free/shareware program with which to label my DATs. I've seen the TapeTracker labels but don't need all the other bells and whistles. What do you all use? Thanks for any help. All the Best, Chris in DC _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Greg Teltschik Subject: Re: compressor/limiter for field recording? Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 06:18:39 +0000 > >Very often I am recording in situations where the venue requires mics to be >about head height as to not obstruct the view of the people behind. Or I am >doing stealth recording with mics in my hat. It is difficult to impossible >to find a happy balance between the volume of the crowds clapping and >cheering to the volume of the music. If I optimize for the music, the >clapping etc. between songs gets clipped or is significantly louder to be >unpleasant to listen to during playback. I am forced to record at slightly >lower levels than desired. Then I cant get enough volume during playback. >And no.. normalizing is not the solution. The difference between the volume >of the audience and that of the music is too great. Normalizing ends up >causing the crowd cheering to sound like a wah-wah. When recording with my >mics 10-14 feet in the air, this is not an issue of course. When you're recording at the level of the crowd, it's critical to get good mic placement. Often you have to balance your desire to be in the "sweet spot" with an assessment of the crowd itself. I've had both good and bad experiences. I often look for a spot within the venue where I can moderate the amount of crowd noise that I will record. I may try to get as close as possible (got to get there early) to the stage so that I can effectively have no one in front of me. Other times I might look for a spot where there is an obstruction like a pole where I can raise my mics a little higher than the crowd. At worst I get a bunch of friends with me and tell them to make no noise. I've found that if you can get roughly a six foot radius between the big sources of noise and your mics, you can get moderate crowd noise that sounds reasonable. Also, mic selection is critical. You should look toward cardiods or hypercardiods instead of omnis in this situation. With an omni you have to worry not only about what's in front of you, but also what's behind you. I saw one article online that suggested you should pick a mic not by the what the pattern picks up, but by what it doesn't. Cardiods and hypercardiods allow you to do that. I suppose you could also choose a shotgun mic, but there are some frequency response issues with these that you might have to address. I've recorded several times in these kind of conditions, and I find that careful mic placement and positioning is critical to a successful recording. Greg Teltschik gteltschik@mindspring.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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