DAT-heads Digest #343
Contents:
Re: Loud Crowd ("Gary Davis")
Re: Loading LP tapes into the computer ("Gary Davis")
ISO: Dat labeleing program (Brian Gemborys)
RE: Unpacking Tapes ("Vince Horst")
ISO- Queen Mum's anniversary Party ("Bob Silver")
Re: Unpacking Tapes (Seth Breidbart)
Mic selection and crowd noise - DPA 4061s ("Vince Horst")
NO TREND ("bob siegl")
http://www.jbonamassa.com/Unbroken/ ("Tatina, Bill")
more sneak preveiw Joe B ("Tatina, Bill")
Question about IR control of DAT ("Peter S. Rand")
Re: DAT/DDS tapes... (Kevin Brown)
De-emphasis Curve (Arnold)
Blank DATs For Sale ("Dave Pecoraro")
ISO Frost Phil show... (michael ryan)
ISO Ratdog 5/2202 ("Jeff Abolafia")
Nak MX-100 alternatives OR 3 channel mixers? ("Andy Liu")
Taping Garrisson Starr (Aaron Taylor)
need trey 5/26/02 2nd encore (will.stiefel@autodesk.com)
ISO: Replacement Pink Floyd shows and others ("T. Simpson")
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavisloop@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Loud Crowd
Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 01:35:20 -0700
The only way to really fix this is to edit the concert in the computer.
Highlight the loud applause and turn the volume down! I find the
best way is to make a "smile curve" with the
Transform>Amplitude>Envelope feature in Cool Edit/Pro. With this
feature you can draw the exact curve you want for the volume
change: turn it down quicly when the applause starts, and turn it
back up more slowly. Also, you can easily make the applause
even softer than the show if you like!
Simply using a compresser/limiter will still leave the applause
*sounding* a lot louder than the show, but of course it will help
reduce clipping.
--Gary
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavisloop@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Loading LP tapes into the computer
Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 01:40:02 -0700
If you have a stand-alone CD recorder with sample-rate-converter,
just burn a disc of the LP DAT and then rip it into the computer...
this is (IMHO) the easiest way to load any DAT tape into the
computer. No tricky soundcard or USB device to configure, and
you don't tie up your computer with a real-time transfer (reading the
CD in can take just a few minutes, and allows you to multi-task
while it's reading).
Coincidentally, the DAT Store still has stand-alone PRO burners
from $294... (sorry to make this an ad ;-)
--Gary
From: Brian Gemborys <brian_gemborys@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: Dat labeleing program
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 03:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
I like wintaper. It's freeware, simple and does all
sorts of tape types.
-Brian
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From: "Vince Horst" <vincehorst@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Unpacking Tapes
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 07:21:49 -0500
This subject reminded me of a question that I've been meaning to get an
opinion on:
Unpacking tapes with my home D5 deck and recording with my M1 in the field.
Do I -have- to use the same deck to upack and record? Would I lose any
benefits by doing the D5/M1 trick described above?
- Vince
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From: "Bob Silver" <bocabob@bellsouth.net>
Subject: ISO- Queen Mum's anniversary Party
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 08:38:45 -0400
Any of you folk across the pond get any live action the other day from the
Queens massive 50th anniversary Party, I would love to hear some of the acts
such as Ozzy, Clapton, "Queen", and the such......
Thanks!
Gather the memories and spread the love!!
Peace,
Boca Bob Silver
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Unpacking Tapes
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:00:58 -0400 (EDT)
> Unpacking tapes with my home D5 deck and recording with my M1 in the
> field.
>
> Do I -have- to use the same deck to upack and record? Would I lose
> any benefits by doing the D5/M1 trick described above?
There's no reason to use the same deck, but you can lose the benefits
of unpacking if there's too much time (especially with a lot of
temperature change) in between unpacking and recording.
Seth
From: "Vince Horst" <vincehorst@hotmail.com>
Subject: Mic selection and crowd noise - DPA 4061s
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:08:50 -0500
From thread: "Re: compressor/limiter for field recording?"
[snip]
>Also, mic selection is critical. You should look toward cardiods or
>hypercardiods instead of omnis in this situation. With an omni you have to
>worry not only about what's in front of you, but also what's behind you.
[snip]
I agree that omnis tend to give poorer results when recording in the middle
of a crowd. That having been said, I've noticed a peculiar effect with my
DPA 4061 omnis. It seems that no matter how packed in the middle of the
crowd I am, the recording turns out sounding like the mics were 5 feet above
the crowd. Ie: the crowd noise isn't bad at all. At one of the concerts that
I stealthed, I remember in particular that there was a loud a$$h0l3 both in
front and behind me. I was worried that the recording would be ruined but to
my surprise those two idiots' voices were only marginally louder than the
rest of the crowd. Whenever I've been in that same situation with either
CSBs or Sonics I got huge clipping problems.
Anyone have a reasonable explanation for this? I thought it was an
interesting point to share.
- Vince
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From: "bob siegl" <kindnation@hotmail.com>
Subject: NO TREND
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:13:20 -0400
After listening to my No Trend scratchy record to CD last week, it occured
to me that maybe ONE of you may have either been disturbed enough to tape
these guys, or opportunistic enough to scoop up a copy of a show when you
had the chance. I realize if a show exists, it may sound pretty bad, but
i'd like to get one if possible.
I've got lots of non-no trend trades.
adios
bob
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From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: http://www.jbonamassa.com/Unbroken/
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:12:36 -0600
http://www.jbonamassa.com/Unbroken/
From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: more sneak preveiw Joe B
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:15:46 -0600
http://www.jbonamassa.com/SoItsLikeThat/
From: "Peter S. Rand" <pete_rand@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Question about IR control of DAT
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 13:01:59 -0400
Question to the list ...
I'm trying to build a DAT recording system that can be programmed to run
autonomously. I had the idea of getting a SONY DAT (D7/D8/D100) and
control it with one of those new SONY unified remotes (RM-AV3000) that
has timer capabilities. I need to figure out a way to connect an IR
receiver on the DAT through the 7 pin connector. Heiko Purnhagen tells
me that there is a SONY "breakout box" that has a 7 pin connector on one
side, and an optical/coax + IR receiver on the other. Apparently these
are no longer available? I routed around the web today, but couldn't
find anything. Could someone help me out? I am NOT an electrical
engineer, so I was hoping to get something off the shelf, if possible.
Thanks in advance for help!
Pete
From: Kevin Brown <kevin5brown@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DAT/DDS tapes...
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
I have been reading recent reports about Sony DAT/DDS
tapes and that they were down the heads more so than
other brands...
<<<
I use Sony audio DAT (less often) *and* DDS tapes
(much more often) 90% of the time. On a Sony R300 and
now a Tascam DA-40. Never had a problem with them. I
think one of the concerns with 90 meter tape, is that
it has to be thinner, so it can stretch or break more
often than shorter lengths. (Maybe "sheds" particles
more too?) I personally use 60 m and less
exclusively.
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From: Arnold <avan.heyst@quicknet.nl>
Subject: De-emphasis Curve
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:31:02 +0200
De-emphasis Curve:
======================================
kHz 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9
dB -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.1 -0.1 -0.1 -0.2 -0.2 -0.3
======================================
kHz 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
dB -0.4 -1.3 -2.4 -3.5 -4.5 -5.4 -6.1 -6.7 -7.2 -7.6
======================================
kHz 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
dB -8.0 -8.2 -8.5 -8.7 -8.9 -9.0 -9.2 -9.3 -9.4 -9.5
Good luck....
Arnold van Heyst.
The Netherlands.
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From: "Dave Pecoraro" <davepeck79@attbi.com>
Subject: Blank DATs For Sale
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:02:17 -0400
hello all,
i have a bunch of unopened blanks (Sony DGP - 90's and 60's) that I am
selling on eBay. $20 for a 10-pack. Please do not ask me to sell off of
eBay. Links:
Sony DG60P 10-Packs:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1357566162
Sony DG90P 10-Packs:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1357566850
go easy...
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From: michael ryan <luv2brew@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO Frost Phil show...
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
Hey Now All!
I am quite busy trying to catch up on trading, BUT
if anyone caught the Phil and Friends show at the
Frost with the Right mics in the SWEETSPOT, and would
consider a B+P for now or a trade down the road please
drop me a note. I have some extra shows kicking around
so drop me a note and lets see if we can't work
something out.
Back to lurker mode..
Peace, Michael
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From: "Jeff Abolafia" <jeff_abolafia@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Ratdog 5/2202
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 16:13:08 -0400
Looking for a copy of Ratdog 5/22/02 - have much to trade.
Thanks
Jeff
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From: "Andy Liu" <dwonk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Nak MX-100 alternatives OR 3 channel mixers?
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 13:19:10 -0700
Anyone have a suggestion for a 3 channel mixer (L, R and center/blend) other
than the rare Nak MX-100? Anything a little smaller and nice sounding (no
added noise) out there on the market?
ANDY
BWT: An absolutely FREE copy of Jack Johnson 5-25-02 at the Gorge on 1
Memorex CDR! Schoeps cmc641v>Lunatec V2>Apogee AD1000>M1 (JC's rig);
R300>AP2496>SF XP4.5(rs 48/44.1)>CDwave>EZCDC (CDR), NO DAE GENS! Wind noise
present :(
Mail me with OFFER in the subject or forget being considered!
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From: Aaron Taylor <att9@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Taping Garrisson Starr
Date: Mon, 23 May 1904 00:11:57 -0400
Does anybody know if Garrison Starr allows people to tape?I would like to
catch her in Chapel hill on Wednesday.
From: will.stiefel@autodesk.com
Subject: need trey 5/26/02 2nd encore
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:09:09 -0700
Sometimes 60m is not enough...
I've got the first 2hrs of this great show, would love the rest!
If you had the foresight to run a 90m(or a laptop!) please drop me a line...
-W
From: "T. Simpson" <pthemonkeyd@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: Replacement Pink Floyd shows and others
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:45:03 -0700 (PDT)
Hello all,
I need a bit of help here - I am in search of the
following Pink Floyd shows on DAT:
4/29/72 the 2nd gen (supposed) SB show that is ~86min
long.
8/8/70 master radio broadcast - got three versions all
with D/N
2/13/71 master source
4/15/72 master source
1/27/77 master source
I have all of these but they have D/N on them and I
want clean copies, preferably with known digital gens
also. Email me for list - thanks in advance. Oh, I
am looking for other shows from the Floyd too, so
please drop me a line if interested.
peace,
Travis
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