DAT-heads Digest #344, Volume #6 Thu, 6 Jun 02 02:50:01 EDT Contents: PLF list (casey coniff) ISO: Indigo Girls RCMH 6/4/02 ("Otten, William") Houston KLOL Rockfest -FT 6/2/02 (John Brinkley) Re: New SBM-1 ....only 2 left then they are gone.... (Spyro Bouras) Monitor Stands ("Marc Nutter") Pharoah Sanders (Colin Liston) Fuji DDS 60m tapes (Wayne Brissette) phase cancellation (Charles Muccia) Re: De-emphasis Curve (Bob Ramstad) re: Mic selection and crowd noise -- DPA 4061s ("Marc Nutter") ISO Richard Bona (DHami44862@aol.com) power consumption for casio da-r100 (William Draper) test (GR8FULHOME@aol.com) ISO: Mountain Aire 2002 sets ("Alex Coluzzi") Anyone tape Metallica last night??? ("Rich Gomes") FT: 5/5/02 Rick James (ZepMan@aol.com) Looking for live Rufus & Chaka Khan Summer 2001 tour (bigjazzfan@hdni.cc) CSBs for sale ("slowdivingblue .") WANTED: Sony PCM-M1 (Cale Wedell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: casey coniff Subject: PLF list Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 03:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Anybody have a web address for a phil list? ===== Casey "It's too loud? Well tough shit!" AW 8/25/95 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Otten, William" Subject: ISO: Indigo Girls RCMH 6/4/02 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:20:06 -0400 Great show, that I didn't bring my gear to...anybody out there rolling? = Drop me a line. Lots to offer in return. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: John Brinkley Subject: Houston KLOL Rockfest -FT 6/2/02 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 07:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Even though the security at the Woodlands is getting very sucky these days, I was able to tape all but the opening act this past Sunday. Must admit that Jerry Cantrell was great and also better mixed than the headliner, Nickelback. Along with the two mentioned, Default, Tommy Lee, Course Of Nature, and Headstrong performed and are available.. These were all taped with DPA4060>HEB battery box(no roll)>D100. I would be open to a few trades as well as a couple B&P's. Thanks for the BW, John B. http://hometown.aol.com/jdbrinkley/myhomepage/collection.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Spyro Bouras Subject: Re: New SBM-1 ....only 2 left then they are gone.... Reply-To: spyro@senet.com.au Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 00:09:55 +0930 > Hi all, > Subject line says it all....I have sent 8 units over so far since March > and 4 more are coming tio the USA next week....I am now told there is > only 2 new units left here and then no more as production and/or > importation here has ceased. > So if youn would like one let me know...first in and all that.... > I have all references for those that have already purchased so you can > check out the offer. > Get in touch if you are interested. ------------------------------ From: "Marc Nutter" Subject: Monitor Stands Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:40:20 -0600 Hi All, Sound Anchors makes a great stand. (407) 724-1237 Not exactly a budget item (around $300/pair as I recall) and heavy (50 lbs.). I hope this helps. Marc' Marc Nutter Sonic Sense, Inc. (303) 753-0201 or Toll-Free (877) 324-4463 2755 S. Gilpin St. Denver, CO 80210 http://www.sonicsense.com nutter@sonicsense.com ------------------------------ From: Colin Liston Subject: Pharoah Sanders Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Will anyone be taping any of Pharoah Sanders shows at the Iriduim on: June 04 - June 09, 2002 06/04/2002, 8 and 10 p.m. 06/05/2002 to 06/06/2002, 8 and 10 p.m. thanks colin http://www.cs.utk.edu/~cliston/ ------------------------------ From: Wayne Brissette Subject: Fuji DDS 60m tapes Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:11:53 -0500 As most of you know Fuji has decided to discontinue making the 60 & 90 metre DDS tapes. I have NO affiliation with this company, but they do have access to around 500 pieces or so of the remaining Fuji DDS tape that Fuji has in its eastern warehouse. I've talked with Ken at Terrapin Tapes and he has tried to get the rest of the Fuji tapes, but has been unsuccessful. Anyhow, the company is Total Media and their website is: http://totalmedia.com Again, I have no affiliation with this company, but I have been trying to get my hands on more of these tapes since I think they are some of the last great DDS tapes on the market. Regards, Wayne -- "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte Music Trading Page: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/ PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html Music Currently playing: moe. - 2001-04-19 Electric Factory (Philadelphia, PA) ------------------------------ From: Charles Muccia Subject: phase cancellation Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:41:02 -0700 (PDT) I'd like to get some info and input from the dat-heads collective mind. Can some one explain to me what phasing and phase cancellation is? I recently taped the Phil show at the Frost and the results came out less than spectacular. It's been suggested to me that my recording may have suffered from phase cancellation,but I'm not quite sure what that is and how I can prevent it from happening again. My current rig is a set of Rode NT3's running on P48v into a D8. I'd also like to hear any pros and cons about the Denecke AD 20 as I'm thinking about purchasing one of these in the near future. Thanks to all for the help. Charles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Bob Ramstad Subject: Re: De-emphasis Curve Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:27:43 -0700 There are much more precise definitions of emphasis, both in equation form and in algorithmic form for PCM data. The information in this table may be approximately correct, but I wouldn't advise trying to create this by hand as a equalization filter -- find a software package that does de-emphasis properly, you'll be happier with the results. -- Bob From: Arnold Subject: De-emphasis Curve Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:31:02 +0200 De-emphasis Curve: ====================================== kHz 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 dB -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.1 -0.1 -0.1 -0.2 -0.2 -0.3 ====================================== kHz 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 dB -0.4 -1.3 -2.4 -3.5 -4.5 -5.4 -6.1 -6.7 -7.2 -7.6 ====================================== kHz 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 dB -8.0 -8.2 -8.5 -8.7 -8.9 -9.0 -9.2 -9.3 -9.4 -9.5 Good luck.... Arnold van Heyst. The Netherlands. Straight Mailto:avan.heyst@quicknet.nl ------------------------------ From: "Marc Nutter" Subject: re: Mic selection and crowd noise -- DPA 4061s Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:35:05 -0600 >From: "Vince Horst" >Subject: Mic selection and crowd noise - DPA 4061s >Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:08:50 -0500 >From thread: "Re: compressor/limiter for field recording?" [snip] Hi Vince (and All), >Also, mic selection is critical. You should look toward cardiods or >hypercardiods instead of omnis in this situation. With an omni you have to >worry not only about what's in front of you, but also what's behind you. >[snip] >I agree that omnis tend to give poorer results when recording in the middle >of a crowd. That having been said, I've noticed a peculiar effect with my >DPA 4061 omnis. It seems that no matter how packed in the middle of the >crowd I am, the recording turns out sounding like the mics were 5 feet >above >the crowd. Ie: the crowd noise isn't bad at all. At one of the concerts >that >I stealthed, I remember in particular that there was a loud a$$h0l3 both in >front and behind me. I was worried that the recording would be ruined but >to >my surprise those two idiots' voices were only marginally louder than the >rest of the crowd. Whenever I've been in that same situation with either >CSBs or Sonics I got huge clipping problems. >Anyone have a reasonable explanation for this? I thought it was an >interesting point to share. >- Vince Generally, a P.A. will be run to deliver roughly 100-105dBspl A-weighed at Front of House for most rock concerts. This translates into about 106-110dBspl halfway between the stage and FOH (mix position)--where many folks like to record. Unfortunately, the blood curdling screams of passionate fans (@#%$heads, as many would call them) can generate levels upwards of 110-115dBspl at 1 meter. Then, it is not uncommon to see between songs cheers of the whole crowd go even higher. The minimal difference between the overall crowd and the nearby guys (fewer of them but closer) is why they are only "marginally" louder. As the DPA 4060/61/62 have a max. spl before clipping of 134dB, 144dB, and 154dB respectively, you will not see these clipping in most of our recording applications in front of a PA system. I don't know the clipping points of the other miniature "stealth" mics so it is hard to say whether or not it is the mic or a later stage of the recording chain. If you are using the same equipment except the mics and finding clipping on one brand and not another, it is likely that the mics can not take these higher levels. I'm sure Len and/or Leonard could address this in detail. Happy Recording Everybody, Marc Marc Nutter Sonic Sense, Inc. (303) 753-0201 or Toll-Free (877) 324-4463 2755 S. Gilpin St. Denver, CO 80210 http://www.sonicsense.com nutter@sonicsense.com ------------------------------ From: DHami44862@aol.com Subject: ISO Richard Bona Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:47:27 EDT Howdy all, I'm looking for any live Richard Bona (lets be mature about this one OK? he DOES exist as an artist form Africa). Specifically I'm looking for a recording form his performance at the Ford Detroit Jazz Festival last year I think the date is August 30th 2001 or something close, but I'll take anything. Lots to trade. Peace be with you.... david ------------------------------ From: William Draper Subject: power consumption for casio da-r100 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:44:07 -0400 looking to build a battery pack to run my casio da-r100 with my edirol ua-5. the only thing i can find in the manual about power consumption is: "2.8 W on NiCd battery pack [which i don't have]; approximately 2.5 hours of recording or playback with full 8-hour charge of battery pack (no use of display backlight)". any one know the power consumption in MAH, or how i could get it? wed ------------------------------ From: GR8FULHOME@aol.com Subject: test Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:05:05 EDT test ------------------------------ From: "Alex Coluzzi" Subject: ISO: Mountain Aire 2002 sets Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:47:15 -0700 Les Claypool and Trey if at all possible. I have a ton of stuff to trade. thanks, Alex ------------------------------ From: "Rich Gomes" Subject: Anyone tape Metallica last night??? Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:42:58 -0400 METALLICA Premier New Song During Surprise Club Appearance - June 5, 2002 METALLICA premiered a new song last night during an ultra-secret live performance under the name SPUN at Club Kimo's in San Francisco, according to www.metallica.com . After introducing themselves as "Bob's Band", guitarist/vocalist James Hetfield, drummer Lars Ulrich, guitarist Kirk Hammett and fill-in bassist, producer Bob Rock burst into four RAMONES songs before getting down to performing several METALLICA classics, including the rarely-heard "Hit The Lights". After that, it was time for a new track-apparently as-yet-untitled-which was described by the METALLICA webmaster Niclas Swanlund as "HEAVY, with a nice METALLICA CRUNCH to it." The night ended with "I Disappear" and a version of MISFITS' "Die Die My Darling". Here was METALLICA's set list for their performance at Club Kimo's: 01. Commando (RAMONES) 02. Today Your Love Tomorrow The World (RAMONES) 03. 53rd and 3rd (RAMONES) 04. Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue (RAMONES) 05. Hit The Lights 06. Leper Messiah 07. No Remorse 08. For Whom The Bell Tolls 09. (New Song) 10. I Disappear 11. Die Die My Darling (MISFITS) ------------------------------ From: ZepMan@aol.com Subject: FT: 5/5/02 Rick James Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:23:41 EDT Stealth job, very clear and not much crowd at all, pa problems in the begining tarnish it Schoeps MK4 (ortf)->KC-Y->VMS5U +20 ->P-1 (80min) I guess this is his last tour DAT only (don't ask for CD) If anyone has any other Rick i'd be interested Marc ps: oh yeah, the p-1 isn't a type -o ------------------------------ From: bigjazzfan@hdni.cc Subject: Looking for live Rufus & Chaka Khan Summer 2001 tour Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:15:57 -0600 Hi, Does anyone have any of the last Summers reunion tour of Rufus & Chaka Khan. They toured with Earth, Wind, & Fire. Email me if you have some. Be happy to trade. Thanks, Mark bigjazzfan@hdni.cc ------------------------------ From: "slowdivingblue ." Subject: CSBs for sale Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 05:23:15 +0000 I’m about to upgrade my CSBs so I am selling them. These are the modified CSBs with selectable bass roll-off battery box. They have clips for mounting. They were used only a few times and kept in virtually new condition; bought brand new about 18 months ago. Kept in a smoke-free environment. Asking $200 or best offer. US Buyers only, please. I will be gone for a week, and the highest offer I receive by the time I get back on June 13, 2002 will be accepted. My email is slowdivingblue@hotmail.com. References available upon request. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Cale Wedell Subject: WANTED: Sony PCM-M1 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:39:54 -0700 (PDT) I'm looking to invest in a Sony PCM-M1, new or used. If you have one for sale or know someone who's wanting to get rid of one, please send me an email (calewedell@yahoo.com) Thanks in advance! ===== http://nebulalive.cjb.net http://members.cox.net/cwedell/trade.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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