DAT-heads Digest #344

Contents:
  PLF list (casey coniff)
  ISO: Indigo Girls RCMH 6/4/02 ("Otten, William")
  Houston KLOL Rockfest -FT 6/2/02 (John Brinkley)
  Re: New SBM-1 ....only 2 left then they are gone.... (Spyro Bouras)
  Monitor Stands ("Marc Nutter")
  Pharoah Sanders  (Colin Liston)
  Fuji DDS 60m tapes (Wayne Brissette)
  phase cancellation (Charles Muccia)
  Re: De-emphasis Curve (Bob Ramstad)
  re: Mic selection and crowd noise -- DPA 4061s ("Marc Nutter")
  ISO Richard Bona (DHami44862@aol.com)
  power consumption for casio da-r100 (William Draper)
  test (GR8FULHOME@aol.com)
  ISO: Mountain Aire 2002 sets ("Alex Coluzzi")
  Anyone tape Metallica last night??? ("Rich Gomes")
  FT: 5/5/02 Rick James (ZepMan@aol.com)
  Looking for live Rufus & Chaka Khan Summer 2001 tour (bigjazzfan@hdni.cc)
  CSBs for sale ("slowdivingblue .")
  WANTED: Sony PCM-M1  (Cale Wedell)


From: casey coniff <vttaper2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: PLF list
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 03:40:43 -0700 (PDT)

Anybody have a web address for a phil list?

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From: "Otten, William" <William.Otten@LibertyMutual.com>
Subject: ISO: Indigo Girls RCMH 6/4/02
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:20:06 -0400

Great show, that I didn't bring my gear to...anybody out there rolling?  =
Drop me a line.  Lots to offer in return.

Thanks.




From: John Brinkley <johnbrinkley@yahoo.com>
Subject: Houston KLOL Rockfest -FT 6/2/02
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 07:32:54 -0700 (PDT)

Even though the security at the Woodlands is getting
very sucky these days, I was able to tape all but the
opening act this past Sunday. Must admit that Jerry
Cantrell was great and also better mixed than the
headliner, Nickelback. Along with the two mentioned,
Default, Tommy Lee, Course Of Nature, and Headstrong
performed and are available..  These were all taped
with DPA4060>HEB battery box(no roll)>D100. I would be
open to a few trades as well as a couple B&P's. 

Thanks for the BW,

John B.

http://hometown.aol.com/jdbrinkley/myhomepage/collection.html





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From: Spyro Bouras <spyro@senet.com.au>
Subject: Re: New SBM-1 ....only 2 left then they are gone....
Reply-To: spyro@senet.com.au
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 00:09:55 +0930



> Hi all,
> Subject line says it all....I have sent 8 units over so far since March
> and 4 more are coming tio the USA next week....I am now told there is
> only 2 new units left here and then no more as production and/or
> importation here has ceased.
> So if youn would like one let me know...first in and all that....
> I have all references for those that have already purchased so you can
> check out the offer.
> Get in touch if you are interested.




From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: Monitor Stands
Date:   Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:40:20 -0600

Hi All,

Sound Anchors makes a great stand.  (407) 724-1237

Not exactly a budget item (around $300/pair as I recall) and heavy (50
lbs.).

I hope this helps.

Marc'

Marc Nutter
Sonic Sense, Inc.
(303) 753-0201 or Toll-Free (877) 324-4463
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO  80210
http://www.sonicsense.com
nutter@sonicsense.com





From: Colin Liston <cliston@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Pharoah Sanders 
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:45:51 -0400 (EDT)


Will anyone be taping any of Pharoah Sanders shows at 
the Iriduim on:

June 04 - June 09, 2002 

06/04/2002, 8 and 10 p.m.
06/05/2002 to 06/06/2002, 8 and 10 p.m.

thanks
colin

http://www.cs.utk.edu/~cliston/






From: Wayne Brissette <waynefb@earthlink.net>
Subject: Fuji DDS 60m tapes
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:11:53 -0500

As most of you know Fuji has decided to discontinue making the 60 & 90
metre DDS tapes. I have NO affiliation with this company, but they do
have access to around 500 pieces or so of the remaining Fuji DDS tape
that Fuji has in its eastern warehouse. I've talked with Ken at Terrapin
Tapes and he has tried to get the rest of the Fuji tapes, but has been
unsuccessful. 

Anyhow, the company is Total Media and their website is:

http://totalmedia.com

Again, I have no affiliation with this company, but I have been trying to
get my hands on more of these tapes since I think they are some of the
last great DDS tapes on the market.


Regards,
Wayne

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From: Charles Muccia <cvm900@yahoo.com>
Subject: phase cancellation
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:41:02 -0700 (PDT)

 I'd like to get some info and input from the
dat-heads collective mind. Can some one explain to me
what phasing and phase cancellation is? I recently
taped the Phil show at the Frost and the results came
out less than spectacular. It's been suggested to me
that my recording may have suffered from phase
cancellation,but I'm not quite sure what that is and
how I can prevent it from happening again. My current
rig is a set of Rode NT3's running on P48v into a D8.
 I'd also like to hear any pros and cons about the
Denecke AD 20 as I'm thinking about purchasing one of
these in the near future.
 Thanks to all for the help.

Charles


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From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: De-emphasis Curve
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:27:43 -0700

There are much more precise definitions of emphasis, both in equation
form and in algorithmic form for PCM data.  The information in this
table may be approximately correct, but I wouldn't advise trying to
create this by hand as a equalization filter -- find a software
package that does de-emphasis properly, you'll be happier with the
results.

-- Bob

   From: Arnold <avan.heyst@quicknet.nl>
   Subject: De-emphasis Curve
   Date:   Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:31:02 +0200

   De-emphasis Curve:

   ======================================
   kHz   0.1  0.2  0.3  0.4  0.5  0.6  0.7  0.8  0.9
   dB   -0.0 -0.0 -0.0 -0.1 -0.1 -0.1 -0.2 -0.2 -0.3
   ======================================
   kHz   1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
   dB   -0.4 -1.3 -2.4 -3.5 -4.5 -5.4 -6.1 -6.7 -7.2 -7.6
   ======================================
   kHz   11   12   13   14   15   16   17   18   19    20
   dB   -8.0 -8.2 -8.5 -8.7 -8.9 -9.0 -9.2 -9.3 -9.4  -9.5


   Good luck....

   Arnold van Heyst.
   The Netherlands.
   Straight Mailto:avan.heyst@quicknet.nl





From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: re: Mic selection and crowd noise -- DPA 4061s
Date:   Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:35:05 -0600

>From: "Vince Horst" <vincehorst@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Mic selection and crowd noise - DPA 4061s
>Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:08:50 -0500
>From thread: "Re: compressor/limiter for field recording?"
[snip]


Hi Vince (and All),

>Also, mic selection is critical.  You should look toward cardiods or 
>hypercardiods instead of omnis in this situation.  With an omni you
have to 
>worry not only about what's in front of you, but also what's behind
you.
>[snip]
>I agree that omnis tend to give poorer results when recording in the
middle 
>of a crowd. That having been said, I've noticed a peculiar effect with
my 
>DPA 4061 omnis. It seems that no matter how packed in the middle of the

>crowd I am, the recording turns out sounding like the mics were 5 feet
>above 
>the crowd. Ie: the crowd noise isn't bad at all. At one of the concerts
>that 
>I stealthed, I remember in particular that there was a loud a$$h0l3
both in 
>front and behind me. I was worried that the recording would be ruined
but >to 
>my surprise those two idiots' voices were only marginally louder than
the 
>rest of the crowd. Whenever I've been in that same situation with
either 
>CSBs or Sonics I got huge clipping problems.

>Anyone have a reasonable explanation for this? I thought it was an 
>interesting point to share.
>- Vince

Generally, a P.A. will be run to deliver roughly 100-105dBspl A-weighed
at Front of House for most rock concerts.  This translates into about
106-110dBspl halfway between the stage and FOH (mix position)--where
many folks like to record.  

Unfortunately, the blood curdling screams of passionate fans (@#%$heads,
as many would call them) can generate levels upwards of 110-115dBspl at
1 meter.  Then, it is not uncommon to see between songs cheers of the
whole crowd go even higher. The minimal difference between the overall
crowd and the nearby guys (fewer of them but closer) is why they are
only "marginally" louder.  

As the DPA 4060/61/62 have a max. spl before clipping of 134dB, 144dB,
and 154dB respectively, you will not see these clipping in most of our
recording applications in front of a PA system.  I don't know the
clipping points of the other miniature "stealth" mics so it is hard to
say whether or not it is the mic or a later stage of the recording
chain.  If you are using the same equipment except the mics and finding
clipping on one brand and not another, it is likely that the mics can
not take these higher levels.  I'm sure Len and/or Leonard could address
this in detail.

Happy Recording Everybody,

Marc


Marc Nutter
Sonic Sense, Inc.
(303) 753-0201 or Toll-Free (877) 324-4463
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO  80210
http://www.sonicsense.com
nutter@sonicsense.com





From: DHami44862@aol.com
Subject: ISO Richard Bona
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:47:27 EDT

Howdy all, I'm looking for any live Richard Bona (lets be mature about this 
one OK?  he DOES exist as an artist form Africa).  Specifically I'm looking 
for a recording form his performance at the Ford Detroit Jazz Festival last 
year  I think the date is August 30th  2001 or something close, but I'll take 
anything.  Lots to trade.

Peace be with you....

david



From: William Draper <wdraper@expressionanalysis.com>
Subject: power consumption for casio da-r100
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:44:07 -0400 

looking to build a battery pack to run my casio da-r100 with my edirol ua-5.
the only thing i can find in the manual about power consumption is: "2.8 W
on NiCd battery pack [which i don't have]; approximately 2.5 hours of
recording or playback with full 8-hour charge of battery pack (no use of
display backlight)".  any one know the power consumption in MAH, or how i
could get it?


wed



From: GR8FULHOME@aol.com
Subject: test
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:05:05 EDT

test



From: "Alex Coluzzi" <alex@kabella.org>
Subject: ISO: Mountain Aire 2002 sets
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:47:15 -0700

 Les Claypool and Trey if at all possible.
 I have a ton of stuff to trade.
 
 thanks,
 
 Alex
 




From: "Rich Gomes" <RichGomes@attbi.com>
Subject: Anyone tape Metallica last night???
Reply-To: <RichGomes@attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:42:58 -0400

METALLICA Premier New Song During Surprise Club Appearance - June 5,
2002

METALLICA premiered a new song last night during an ultra-secret live
performance under the name SPUN at Club Kimo's in San Francisco,
according to www.metallica.com <http://www.metallica.com/> .

After introducing themselves as "Bob's Band", guitarist/vocalist James
Hetfield, drummer Lars Ulrich, guitarist Kirk Hammett and fill-in
bassist, producer Bob Rock burst into four RAMONES songs before getting
down to performing several METALLICA classics, including the
rarely-heard "Hit The Lights". After that, it was time for a new
track-apparently as-yet-untitled-which was described by the METALLICA
webmaster Niclas Swanlund as "HEAVY, with a nice METALLICA CRUNCH to
it." The night ended with "I Disappear" and a version of MISFITS' "Die
Die My Darling".

Here was METALLICA's set list for their performance at Club Kimo's:

01. Commando (RAMONES)
02. Today Your Love Tomorrow The World (RAMONES)
03. 53rd and 3rd (RAMONES)
04. Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue (RAMONES)
05. Hit The Lights
06. Leper Messiah
07. No Remorse
08. For Whom The Bell Tolls
09. (New Song)
10. I Disappear
11. Die Die My Darling (MISFITS)






From: ZepMan@aol.com
Subject: FT: 5/5/02 Rick James
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:23:41 EDT

Stealth job,
very clear and not much crowd at all, pa problems in the begining tarnish it
Schoeps MK4 (ortf)->KC-Y->VMS5U +20 ->P-1 (80min)
I guess this is his last tour

DAT only (don't ask for CD) If anyone has any other Rick i'd be interested

Marc


ps: oh yeah, the p-1 isn't a type -o



From: bigjazzfan@hdni.cc
Subject: Looking for live Rufus & Chaka Khan Summer 2001 tour
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:15:57 -0600

Hi,

Does anyone have any of the last Summers reunion tour of Rufus & Chaka Khan.
They toured with Earth, Wind, & Fire.

Email me if you have some.
Be happy to trade.

Thanks, Mark

bigjazzfan@hdni.cc




From: "slowdivingblue ." <slowdivingblue@hotmail.com>
Subject: CSBs for sale
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 05:23:15 +0000

I’m about to upgrade my CSBs so I am selling them.  These are the modified 
CSBs with selectable bass roll-off battery box.  They have clips for 
mounting.  They were used only a few times and kept in virtually new 
condition; bought brand new about 18 months ago.  Kept in a smoke-free 
environment.  Asking $200 or best offer.  US Buyers only, please.  I will be 
gone for a week, and the highest offer I receive by the time I get back on 
June 13, 2002 will be accepted.  My email is slowdivingblue@hotmail.com.  
References available upon request.


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From: Cale Wedell <calewedell@yahoo.com>
Subject: WANTED: Sony PCM-M1 
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:39:54 -0700 (PDT)

I'm looking to invest in a Sony PCM-M1, new or used.
If you have one for sale or know someone who's wanting
to get rid of one, please send me an email
(calewedell@yahoo.com)

Thanks in advance!

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