DAT-heads Digest #359, Volume #6 Mon, 17 Jun 02 14:50:00 EDT Contents: ISO: GYBE! and related stuff... (Paulo Vieira) SBM-1 or best alternative / info on DPA 4060 mics (Richard Hammond) ISO- David Bowie live at Roseland last week! ("Bob Silver") The Hives (umlaut) Re: Sony PCM 2600 ("ev") wow! me? ROTY? ("john e. bogus") Does a SONY DAT Adapter RM-D100K really remote my portable? (Xiloa@aol.com) Re: Does a SONY DAT Adapter RM-D100K really remote my portable? (Seth Breidbart) 2 Bonnaroo tickets for sale ("James Ray") taped_ 6.16.02 Doves ("slowdivingblue .") Other DDS branded tapes????? (Gareth Gowan) John Mayer allows taping ("Jeremy .") FS: Sound Pro Cardioids w/ Croakies Mount (Warren Zane) Band's Set at the Glen ("Lerner, David S, ALINF") Low levels help and the Melvins ("T. Simpson") Will Lapier (Spyro Bouras) BASH me if you will... ("Thomas Avallone") Where in Oregon to get a Tascam DA-P1 serviced??? ("Jackson Gibbs") recording (tom lippi) Introducing MURPHY'S LAWS OF STEALTH-TAPING (celticbro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Vieira Subject: ISO: GYBE! and related stuff... Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:25:45 +0100 Hello! I'm looking for some good quality shows from GYBE! and related bands (A Silver Mt Zion, etc). FM or soundboard are preferred, but I'll take anything that sounds good. I only have one GYBE! show from the 2002 tour, but I'll send you my list if you're up for a trade. I can only trade via online shortens though, I'm low on money :( -Paulo ------------------------------ From: Richard Hammond Subject: SBM-1 or best alternative / info on DPA 4060 mics Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:39:50 -0500 Looking for either a SBM-1 or what ever might be the "best" alternative. Now, with that being said, let me describe what's "best" for me. It has to be stealthable, which I believe the SBM-1 is... anything portable that can do the job in/around that size range would be considered I guess. So it would have to be battery powered and last at least 2 to 2.5 hours on a set of batteries. I've just recently (as in last week) moved up to some DPA 4060 mics and love my first test run of them. I was not fortunate enough to pick up one of the many SBM-1's that have hit this list in the last few weeks though and started my search for something else. Also, is there a good resource on the DPA 4060 mics (besides the DPAmic site)? I've got their 9v power supply... can these take 48v and if so is there a D/A convertor I could use that would also power these mics? Forgive me for my ignorance on these topics... I started with an AIWA tie clip mic and an analog deck, move to Core Sound mics, then some AT 933 series and now the DPA's... I'm starting to learn but could use some help! Thanks. Rich ------------------------------ From: "Bob Silver" Subject: ISO- David Bowie live at Roseland last week! Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:27:11 -0400 A friend having witnessed the Bowie show at the Roseland last week, has asked me to see if I could find it for him, but..... Hell.... I want that sum of a B&tch! Can anybody help me/us out? Gather the memories and spread the love!! Peace, Boca Bob Silver ~~ ) ~~~~ )> ~~~~ )> ~~ http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/b/o/bocabob/TAPELIST.HTM http://www.thephilzone.com/ ~~ ) ~~~~ )> ~~~~ )> ~~ ------------------------------ From: umlaut Subject: The Hives Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:04:31 -0700 ISO any quality spins of The Hives... Have recent White Stripes (2002 Tour) to trade + other acts.. ------------------------------ From: "ev" Subject: Re: Sony PCM 2600 Reply-To: "ev" Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:23:49 -0400 > From: Keith Bode on Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:26:51 -0700 > > There are 2 of these units on ebay, neither have any bids. I do confess > to not knowing jack about these units, but they look like tanks, and one > add says they have 4 heads. Have they got 4 motors too? If anyoone > knows about these, I could use some info, like what kind of connectors > they have, and is one with 18 hours worth $450, and if is a good deal, > if any of you beat me out on this, I'll really get pissed. They are very solid decks with an excellent transport and a very nice sounding (for built-in) DAC. I am not sure about the number of motors offhand, but they have 2 heads. The PCM 2800s have 4 heads and allow for immediate playback/monitoring of DATs while recording. The PCM 2600 is the predecessor of the R500. peace, further... e ------------------------------ From: "john e. bogus" Subject: wow! me? ROTY? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 00:43:19 -0400 Fellow tapers, I'm pleased to be here today to accept this honor bestowed upon me by our honorable awards committee. Insight and humor are things we see all too infrequently in the world these days. *dodges a rotten tomato thrown from somewhere back behind the soundboard* Glad to be able to provide both, and render my technical assistance wherever possible. Trophy and shirt may be sent to: box 8944 Baltimore, MD 21222 Please send only 48khz tapes or the aforementioned awards, no dog turds please. (my shepherds award me enough of those prizes as it is) While I'm confident that these awards will grace one of my mantels and amaze all visitors to my lair, I feel that I may not be the only person onlist deserving of them. In light of this, I would nominate GUYSONIC for RUNNER-UP RANT OF THE YEAR.....the piece about the riaa/manufacturer antitaper conspiracy was absolutely beautiful, and deserves worthy mention for being an issue that affects all of us. What's the prize for runner-up? john e. bogus BWT: I know, I know, it's coming soon, almost caught up on trades..... ------------------------------ From: Xiloa@aol.com Subject: Does a SONY DAT Adapter RM-D100K really remote my portable? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:24:35 EDT While fishing for DATs on Ebay yesterday, I came across this strange device up for auction: A Sony RM-D100K. Says it will hook into that weird port I've seen on some Sony portables, give it remote and digital out capabilities. Does anybody out there have one of these and is it worth getting? Does it work with non Sony decks? Xavier ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Does a SONY DAT Adapter RM-D100K really remote my portable? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:40:10 -0400 (EDT) The RM-D100K is a remote control for the Sony portables that have a 7-pin connector. It doesn't do anything for non-Sony decks. (I don't know exactly which Sony portables it's compatible with, since things changed between the D3, D7, D8, D100, and M1.) Seth ------------------------------ From: "James Ray" Subject: 2 Bonnaroo tickets for sale Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 05:47:21 +0000 Just can't make it...enjoy and be safe ya'll. Got my tickets from GDTSTOO mail order, $306 for both. thanks JaymeRay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ From: "slowdivingblue ." Subject: taped_ 6.16.02 Doves Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:00:10 +0000 Got a really great stack tape of the doves 6.16.02, csb>d8. trades on CDR only. looking for other tapes from this tour, especially FMs. also looking for a ton of other stuff - please send your URL or your list as text if you're interested in this and i'll take a look at it. [got there late for elbow, so i only have about 15 minutes of their set.] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Gareth Gowan Subject: Other DDS branded tapes????? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 01:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Hi, Has anyone used any other DDS branded tape other than Sony or Maxell???? Are other brands such as HP just as good or are there any quality issues with different brands or is it better to stick with Sony/Maxell tapes??? Thanks, Gareth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Jeremy ." Subject: John Mayer allows taping Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:42:34 +0000 Hi Folks, Not sure if he is everyone flavor, but I recently bought his new cd and think it is excellent. His website says that he allows taping and I thought I would let those of you who know or care. Jeremy _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ From: Warren Zane Subject: FS: Sound Pro Cardioids w/ Croakies Mount Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 04:18:00 -0700 (PDT) For Sale: Sound Professionals Premium Audio Technica Slimline Cardioid Microphones with Croakies Eyeglass Mount (SP-CMC-8) $120, includes Priority Mail shipping. Paypal preferred. I bought these in 2000. They are in excellent condition and are great for stealth recording. This does not include a battery box, which can be purchased for $59 from http://www.soundprofessionals.com See here for more information on this model: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=120&item=SP-CMC-8&type=store note: The mikes are permanently mounted in the Croakies so you can't change the mic element. Please e-mail me if interested. CD-R Trading List (Indie Rock): http://www.geocities.com/wkzane/wztrading.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Lerner, David S, ALINF" Subject: Band's Set at the Glen Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:38:25 -0400 I believe I got their set on cassette about 10 years ago, before I went = DAT. I'll post the quality and setlist tomorrow. the Band's set on that Saturday was awesome. Best of the 3 bands, IMO. I still flashback there once in awhile in my dreams, esp in the = summertime. 1973 was an amazing year for shows. Dave Lerner dlerner@ems.att.com ------------------------------ From: "T. Simpson" Subject: Low levels help and the Melvins Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Hello all, I recently recorded a Melvins concert in Nashville on June 13, which, for those of you who have been to their shows know, they play extremely loud. I could never get my levels any better than about -20db no matter how close I got. I have a brand new CSC set going directly into a Sony M1. I was using 'line in' and the '20db boost' and still got these low levels. My input dial was turned all the way up also. I tried the 'mic in' and got better levels, but got no response on my left mic (which is the same thing that happens when using my CSBs). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! On another note, if anyone is interested in trading for a cdr version of this show please contact me also. Looking for other Melvins gigs or Tool shows. peace, Travis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Spyro Bouras Subject: Will Lapier Reply-To: spyro@senet.com.au Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:51:27 +0930 get in touch please money has arrived but I need a typed address for posting sbm-1 spyro thanks for the bandwidth ------------------------------ From: "Thomas Avallone" Subject: BASH me if you will... Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:36:07 +0000 But I'm looking for KYLIE MINOGUE recordings....YES - I DID say 'KYLIE MINOGUE'. She is not been touring the states, so I will have to rely on some overseas sources... Yes, sometimes a little ear candy must fall...... Tom "I've heard there's joy untold Lays open like a road In front of me" ~ PJ Harvey http://www.tav2367.20m.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Jackson Gibbs" Subject: Where in Oregon to get a Tascam DA-P1 serviced??? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:08:20 -0700 My DA-P1 decided to start eating tapes this weekend (luckily at the end of a *very* long day of taping the Family-A-Faire)... Whenever I insert a dat (unpacked or not) and it will take longer than usual to load it and wind up with a flashing little tape icon. Upon ejecting the casette I always find the same amount of tape hanging out (~2 inches). Anyone have a clue as to why it would do this? Where in Oregon (Eugene perferably, but could head up to Portland) would one take a DA-P1 to be serviced? Thanks a bunch! -Jackson ------------------------------ From: tom lippi Subject: recording Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Hi all... I need to record something off the radio at a time when I won't be home. I'm trying to figure out if it's better to record this at 32khz on dat, or if I should record it on a video tape and transfer to dat. It is FM, which supposedly has a lower quality than 32k, but I know some people don't like this format at all. Any thoughts? Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: celticbro Subject: Introducing MURPHY'S LAWS OF STEALTH-TAPING Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Yes, a very legitimate thread dealt on many personal levels: The ever agonizing task of dealing with those inconsiderate assholes at shows whilst stealthing. Oh yeah, I know that scenario too well!!! I've had numerous musical moments tarnished or ruined by some drunken bastard(s) screaming during that very, VERY moment in the song and *BAM!* It's like a balloon of water exploding over your head, and that supposedly special moment washed up. King Crimson shows are INFAMOUS for having at least one (sometimes two) dumbasses shouting something totally uncalled for. The KC trademark is having the audience totally attentive and silent during the songs, only applausing at the end - or during a SICK Fripp solo, like in FraKctured! Such as the 11/12/95 Roxy "FREEBIIIIRD!", but that being Atlanta it may as well be called out at EVERY show!!! During 11/9/01 at 328 Performance Hall in Nashville, I was taping left side PA stacks 10 feet away. Some drunk fuck was requesting Adrian to do "Elephant Taaaaaalk". Over and over he did that between each song, for the first 5-6 songs. Then he would say "We love yewww, Adriaaaan!!!" Fortunately, the idiot stumbled elsewhere midway thru the show. Anyhow, the way I have regarded stealth taping and the circumstances within is what I refer to as "Murphy's Law of Stealth-Taping". MURPHY'S LAWS OF STEALTH-TAPING: (borrowed without permission from the Murphy's-Laws.com site) 1. If only one dumbshit can do wrong by talking loud or screaming, they will be within a 5 ft square area of you. (Or about a 70-80% chance GUARANTEED!) 2. If there is a possibility of several dumbshits in the audience doing wrong by talking loud or screaming, the one that will cause the most damage [to your ears] - or shout at the highest frequency - will be the one you'll have to deal with throughout the entire show. (Or if a mosh-pit or crowd-surfing fiasco has ensued, you will most likely either be drawn into the pit OR have some drunken 250-lb buffoon fall on your shoulders. (BEEN THERE!) 3. Corollary: If there is a worse time for a tape to be ruined by asking "Scuse me - uh, what was the name of that last song?", it will happen then. 4. If any dumbshit in the audience just cannot do wrong, he/she will anyway. Either that, or end up puking in the row behind you. (I have HAD that experience actually!!) 5. If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a recording can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop. (In other words, you checked 4 things: levels, AA battery power, mic clip direction, and a new 9V in your mic battery box. But OOOPS!!!!! The fifth element came into "play" - sensitivity set to high (0db). D'OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!) 6. Left to the taper, things tend to go from bad B.O. beside you to "Man, if this $%#-damned redneck shouts 'FREEBIRD!' one more time, I'm gonna blow my cover and knock his teeth in!!!!" 7. If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something - like say, your levels WAY TOO HOT!!!!! 8. Nature always sides with the hidden flaw, or the stuck pause button on your D8. Or for us M1 users, the infamous "UNLOAD > LOAD > UNLOAD > etc." phenomenon. 9. Mother nature (and stealthing, for that matter) is a bitch. But by golly, somebody has to do it!!!! Might as well be us calm, cool, collective tapers ;) But seriously, most of the times that I had a negative audience experience, the music was more than enough to make up for all that bullshit! It's only DURING the songs that it really IRKS me when even I hear somebody whispers, because I'm thinking that "Aaaah, man. That's gonna show up on my tape." Many times however, I have found that upon playback at that very moment, I don't hear anything but the music. Yet, we know all those vocal intrusions that DO appear on the tape because of the proximity and the moment that that "audience infraction" occurred. As long as you are able to edit out those little "vocal ejaculations" between the songs, or during a pause within the song, don't get too caught up at that moment with it all. It can be fixed most of the time. Otherwise, hey - what can you do?! We're all human. It's just some humans (or sub-humans in many cases) DO NOT BELONG at these music venues. All you can do is "Tape, tape, tape". Try to keep your cool (which believe me, is hard and frustrating for me to do). If the asshole won't shut up, casually move up 10 to 20 feet - just compensate for your levels if closer to the PA's. Just keep the Murphy's Laws of Stealth-Taping in mind. Tape on, Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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