DAT-heads Digest #361, Volume #6 Wed, 19 Jun 02 04:50:01 EDT Contents: Spring Phil tour DATs up for Grabs ("Matt Edlhuber") led zep detroit ("Chris Rees") 20 (24?) bit A/D mod for M1? ("Vince Horst") re: Other DDS branded tapes????? (Kevin Brown) DAVID GRISMANS BLUEGRASS EXPERIENCE (CCFLAMEWORKS@webtv.net) ISO: The Strokes, The Vines, or Jimmy Eat World (Christopher D Gacek (gace0003@gace0003.email.umn.edu)) BONNAROO RV Available in Knoxville (Geoff Rawlings) BTAT (Adam Smith) YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (Rockzilli@aol.com) Please record Puffy Amiyumi on tour in the US this (JH) Indigo Girls Official taping policy!!!!! (David Danek) rude audiences & jazz ("Alan Kayser") FS on Ebay: Nakamichi HF-100 & Sennheiser HD-424 Headphones ("Andy Liu") r.e. John Hammond & Los Lobos taping policies (Dan Gale) re: audience yappers / screamers (Derrick Belbas) Led Zep Detroit (Mike Parker) Boston: Dave Holland/Branford Marsalis live Sunday (Mike Parker) CALI TAPERS Needed. dredg tour dates (2nd call) ("Steve Mew") Fresh stuff for trade ;-) ("Jackson Gibbs") Crowd Musings/Elvis Costello (Wayne Bonomo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Edlhuber" Subject: Spring Phil tour DATs up for Grabs Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:06:11 -0500 Each show is on 2x90m Sony DGPs (14x90m total) 03-29-2002 Warfield Theatre - San Francisco, CA 03-30-2002 Warfield Theatre - San Francisco, CA 04-01-2002 Idaho Center Arena - Boise, ID 04-02-2002 Brick Breeden Field House - Boseman, MT 04-04-2002 Fillmore Auditorium - Denver, CO 04-05-2002 Fillmore Auditorium - Denver, CO 04-06-2002 Dobson Arena - Vail, CO Missing 4-7....but other than that its the whole tour. A great tour it was, tons of new tune debuts off the "There and Back" Album (see www.philzone.com for setlist details). Tapes smoke, while I dont have detailed source information, I do know that they were done by some oldschool heads that have seen their fair share of shows and they are ALL Schoeps MK4Vs (ORTF/FOB). These sound amazing and i've compared them to some of the other FOBs from the tour and these beatem out. So, I'll offer them up for BnP, I dont want to split them up but if I have to I will. Preference goes to whoever wants them all. Peace. -- Matt Edlhuber medlhuber@hotmail.com http://www.prairiefuture.com/Matt _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Chris Rees" Subject: led zep detroit Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:14:26 -0400 re:In 1975, LED ZEPPELIN played the Silverdome in Pontiac MI ...well..sort of....zep played the olympia stadium in detroit in '75. the silverdome gig was in '77... id love a master>DAT copy..no matter how pitifull it sounds!! cr milan mi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/02 ------------------------------ From: "Vince Horst" Subject: 20 (24?) bit A/D mod for M1? Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:34:59 -0500 Ignore my stupidity. A search of the archives yielded no results, although I know the answer -has- to be out there. [Aside: The search engine is sketchy at best IMHO. How do you search the phrase '20 bit A/D' for example? I've never been able to do it. It always takes each word seperately. Not what I want. I'm a programmer, can I help make it better? Who would I ask?] At any rate, I recall seeing a few people that have had their SBM1's modded such that they use 20 (24?) bit A/D instead of the stock 16. Is that mod possible on the M1 since the M1 and SBM1 use the same parts? Why or why not? - Vince BWT: Stuart Davis 05.17.2002, 400 Bar, Minneapolis, MN. DPA4061/M1, 4 feet from right stack. Sounds pretty good if I may say so myself. 3 discs. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Kevin Brown Subject: re: Other DDS branded tapes????? Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) MasterDATs are made by Fuji, I didn't know that! :-) I get them from www.tape.com. I've never had any problem with them. Mostly use them when I need the extra 4 min (124 min vs 120 min). I have used a lot of Sony DG-P and DG-M's. Never had a problem with them either. Never had a jammed shutter for example. I have a few TDK's too. But the error rates seem just a smidge higher on these than the Sony's or MasterDAT's. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: CCFLAMEWORKS@webtv.net Subject: DAVID GRISMANS BLUEGRASS EXPERIENCE Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:41:41 -0400 (EDT) HELLO DAT HEADS , DOES ANY ONE HAVE THIS SHOW FROM 4-13-89 ,GODFREY DANIELS ; BETHLEHEH , PA , SOURCE DAT(gace0003@gace0003.email.umn.edu) Subject: ISO: The Strokes, The Vines, or Jimmy Eat World Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Did anyone tape either of these bands at the KROQ Weenie Roast or the Shoreline Ampitheatre the day before? Chris ------------------------------ From: Geoff Rawlings Subject: BONNAROO RV Available in Knoxville Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:01:07 -0700 Hey, sort of Dat related I guess.(at least re: battery charging and security).. I blew cancelling a reservation on a 30 ft RV out of Knoxville and now my $300 deposit has been lost. I'm not renting this thing anymore, and picking one up in Atlanta. If anyone's been shut out of getting an RV for this event, I'd be glad to transfer this reservation to them, but will need to know asap because I'll have to cancel it by Wednesday morning. It's a 4 day rental and the total should be around $900, it sleeps 7 but you can call the rv place to square away the details. The $300 just a security deposit, but all rv's in the area are booked. Hopefully this helps someone. call me at 831 262 9415 ------------------------------ From: Adam Smith Subject: BTAT Reply-To: adaml@lanset.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:49:59 -0700 Does anyone know the taping policy or has recorded the following artists? Chuck Prophet Fred Eaglesmith Robert Earl Keen Please reply privately Thanks, Adam ------------------------------ From: Rockzilli@aol.com Subject: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:03:10 EDT I knew not what I did when i asked for help with the DEtoit Ld Zepp tape. I haev decide to ahve it pro fesionally masterd but will keep the analoge cassettes fro dubs when and if I releae it to trade. Please no more begging... ------------------------------ From: JH Subject: Please record Puffy Amiyumi on tour in the US this Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:25:43 -0500 This venerable duo, huge in their native Japan are touring the states as "Puffy Amiyumi." Known in Japan as Puffy, they're queens of simple j-pop anthems. See the show, buy the goods, worship--and bring your mics and rig. Their tour itinerary is to be found at: http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/eng/PuffyAmiYumi/flash.html Let me know if you can tape in town with my equipment. I have a class that night.... Jonathan ------------------------------ From: David Danek Subject: Indigo Girls Official taping policy!!!!! Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:28:27 -0700 (PDT) They are allowing open taping at their shows!! Get those big rigs out there PLEASE!!! No discussion of whether stands are permitted or banned. What a welcome sign from another artist on a mainstream label! Link to the posting on their website . . . http://www.indigogirls.com/corresp/2002/2002-06-17.html Have lots of nice old and new IG for trade. If interested, please drop me a line! Dave BWT: One random DAT (90m + 3 stamps) Jackson Browne Stamford, CT 5/9/02, Sound Pro premium cardioids>D100, 7th row side orchestra. Pretty nice recording of a great show!! Will consider trades for the show as well . . . looking for other new JB shows! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Alan Kayser" Subject: rude audiences & jazz Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:30:13 -0400 Jazz seems to present another side to the question of audience rudeness. I have attended hundreds of jazz performances, probably 90% of them have been in small venues or "clubs" aka a bar. Often times these venues have a cover charge which goes toward paying the musicians, or a drink minimum, sometimes both. Take for example the Knitting Factory. They serve drinks in the main room, a situation not condusive to quiet. They serve drinks in the downstairs tap bar, a situation not condusive to quiet. The point is, if you want to hear music at the KF (or any similar venue), then be aware that it ain't gonna be quiet, and you can't expect quiet when the venue is serving alcohol. So, relax and enjoy the music (you must stealth at the Knit, just don't get pissed at the couple making small talk at the table next to you). This is typical for jazz fans. The other 10% usually takes place in auditoriums at college campuses or places like the Keswick in suburban Philadelphia. The last show I attended in that hall was Remember Shakti. This is a "concert" type setting, which results in a much quieter audience. Great sound, great show, no booze. Therefore, my conclusion to the question, at least for jazz fans is: DEVIL DRINK=RUDE AUDIENCE. Alan Kayser _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ From: "Andy Liu" Subject: FS on Ebay: Nakamichi HF-100 & Sennheiser HD-424 Headphones Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:26:57 -0700 Hey now, I have a extremely rare set of Nakamichi HF-100 (HP-100) headphones from the 70's in MINT/EXC (seriously, even has original box and instruction sheet in EXC conditon) condition. A true collector's item, these are the closed ear type made speicifically for monitoring. Also on auction is a set of Sennheiser HD-424 w/o ear pads in GOOD/FAIR condition. HF-100 link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1360698655 Senn Nak HD-424 link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1360585081 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Dan Gale Subject: r.e. John Hammond & Los Lobos taping policies Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:58:53 -0700 >From: mike lyons >Subject: John Hammond & Los Lobos taping policies >Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:33:59 -0700 (PDT) >Does anyone have current info on the subject line? >Mike Los Lobos is totally open to audience taping. From the band's perspective, you are welcome to do your thing as long as you are respectful of non-taping patrons ability to enjoy the show and also accomodate any desires or concerns the venue has. The crew is typically rather busy and doesn't always remember to inform the venue that folks can bring in taping gear, so if you are planning to catch a show and would like to tape, get in touch with me and I'll make sure word gets out to the tour manager that you'll be coming with gear. As always, it would be appreciated if folks would provide copies of shows they tape for the archives, so please get in touch if you have an shows, new or old. Also, it's always important to realize that even though taping is allowed and encouraged, there may occasionally be shows where it is not okay - i.e. opening for a band that is not taping friendly or when certain venues refuse to allow taping regardless of the band's policies...I can usually help work around these sorts of situations if you get in touch in advance. As for John Hammond, he is definitely not taper friendly and stealth duty will be the only way to go when he's in town. Don't even bother asking... ------------------------------ From: Derrick Belbas Subject: re: audience yappers / screamers Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:34:20 -0700 Here's something to try to get these people to use a little courtesy. I found it works not too badly in concert situations, but I stumbled across this simple technique while dealing with one of these people at a baseball game. Try to play the calm power figure in the situation. Ask nicely if they'd keep the noise down. If this doesn't significantly help, give 'em a dirty look, which will usually goad 'em on, but will also let them know you're getting verrrry irritated, and will get you a bit of (likely sarcastic) attention. If this doesn't work, which it likely won't... (Calmly now..) "You know, I have a REAL good memory for faces, and I REALLY hope that you come to my office looking for a job someday." I was utterly amazed when I saw the rude person in my face slink away sheepishly, the first time. We all know that we're not going to have any luck teaching folks common courtesy, so try that contra-incentive angle. Not 100% effective, of course, but way more so than "SHUT THE F.CK UP!!!" Also, I strongly do not recommend letting these folks know that you're recording if you're stealthing. And if this doesn't work, your recording was a dead tape running anyway. Anybody here going to see ANY of the upcoming Holly Cole shows? (KH, I'm trying here, buddy!) Rock on, kids. derrick winnipeg ------------------------------ From: Mike Parker Subject: Led Zep Detroit Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:11:18 -0700 Hi Rockzilli, I would recommend not cleaning it up, just dub the master straight to DAT. That`s what i did with a Jimi Hendrix master. You can always mess around with it later, but what`s important is getting the master onto digital, warts and all. I`d recommend getting the biggest, fattest RCA cables you can, i bought a pair of Monster Cable Interlink Reference 2 cables for $129, and they really made a big diffence in the sound, compared to normal-size cables. The highs were smoother and the bass was tighter (which really helps with older poor quality recordings). Good luck with your tape, Mike Parker ------------------------------ From: Mike Parker Subject: Boston: Dave Holland/Branford Marsalis live Sunday Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:50:52 -0700 Boston area dat-heads may be interested in this: Dave Holland, Branford Marsalis, and singer Nnenna Freelon will be giving a free concert this Sunday, June 23rd, on the Esplanade (Charles River) in Boston. The show starts about 2; Holland is opening. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Mew" Subject: CALI TAPERS Needed. dredg tour dates (2nd call) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:27:28 -0700 Desperately need tapers from the CA area for dredg shows 6/20/2002 The Brickworks Chico CA United States 6/21/2002 Three Oaks Vacaville CA United States 6/22/2002 Scratch 8 Sacramento CA United States w/ Red Top Road, Jack's Broken Heart, Madison, Mind of my own 6/23/2002 The Pound San Francisco CA United States W/Division Day 6/24/2002 Blackwater Cafe Stockton CA United States w/7th Standard, Betty Rage 6/26/2002 Jerry's Pizza United States 6/28/2002 Velvet Jones Santa Barbara CA United States 6/29/2002 The Roxy Theatre W. Hollywood CA United States W/Depswa, Hotwire, Leisure I'd love it if anyone could do one of these shows I'll even PAY for your ticket if you can make a good tape w/ a decent rig (ie: sonics, dpas etc etc) the band is even cool with "taping of all forms". dunno about board. ============== Tape List: http://members.tripod.com/New_Jack/cd.txt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ From: "Jackson Gibbs" Subject: Fresh stuff for trade ;-) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 00:41:31 -0700 Hey folks, just recooperated from the 11AM-5AM taping run at the Family-A-Faire this weekend and have some nuggets to offer up for trades... Jerry Joeseph & Jack Mormons 1-60m or 2-cdr Heavyweight Dub Champions 1-60m or 2-cdr Ashbury Park Trio 1-60m or 2-cdr Carlos Washington & Giant People 1-60m or 2-cdr Souls of Mischief 1-60m or 2-cdr KDTU 2-60m or 3-cdr Garaj Mahal 6-16-02 late show (3am - 5am) 1-60m or 2-cdr These were all MBHO 603/k200n > DA-P1. The Garaj show is only the first set, as it was 5AM and I had started taping at 11AM I was about to pass out!! I'll soon have the complete SKB sets, and they were *sweet*. Anyone who's interested in these shows please send me an email and we'll set up a b&p or trade! -Jackson As a footnote, the battery that I mentioned the other day ran for 16+ hours without a sign of trouble. We will be deplending on a couple of these to get us through the fourstage x fourday dimensions of High Sierra ;-) --- Sam I am down with the program Green eggs and ham Yosemite Sam ------------------------------ From: Wayne Bonomo Subject: Crowd Musings/Elvis Costello Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:25:28 -0400 Hey all, After all the negative stuff about rude/noisey people in the audience I had to relate what I consider an extraordinary experience. I saw Elvis Costello and the Imposters at Wolf Trap in Vienna, VA the other night. I was totally amazed at how quiet the crowd was during the last song of the evening. Elvis sang "I want you." His performance was mesmerizing. The song got *extremely* quiet at times while Elvis moaned "I want you" over and over. I didn't hear one jerk yell out the during the whole song plus the crowd was silent also. I felt like one could have heard a pin drop. Part of this I am sure was the strength of Elvis's performance of the song. He had captured the audience that evening. And of course I left my taping gear at home because I thought I was running late. (Turned out I had plenty of time, but oh well, that's the way it goes sometimes.) I am sure some taped this and I would love to get a copy. Peace, wayne ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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