DAT-heads Digest #364, Volume #6 Fri, 21 Jun 02 22:50:00 EDT Contents: RE: Seeking John Mayer (Hayden) ("Hayden Berard") extra shows offer ("Dave Stephens") Elvis Costello at the Beacon (Smashmark@aol.com) FS: Sonic Studios DSM-6SL + PA-6LC3B If you are having trouble posting (L Sean Kennedy) Looking for Macca 2002 SHN FTP trades ("rush fan") ISO: Botch 6/15/02 Showbox, Seattle, WA (Jim Hirte) D8 battery holder (Jim Hirte) re: 24 -> 16 bit recording? (Kevin Brown) John Coltrane WKCR July 5-17 (Mike Parker) =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4rzte=2DConcert?= from Berlin-Kreuzberg (Mathias Rombach) random digi-blasts (hudson fowler) DA-P1 digital inputs (Mathias Rombach) FS: 2 PLQ Charlotte Tix ("DRider") SGI DAT DRIVES $75 ("datman") Re: 24bit A/D -> 16 bit recorders, what happens... ? (David Carmean) Looking for European Tapers for Arjen Lucassen (Ayreon, Star (Jim Amentler) Prodif24 problem (Malcolm Hathaway) Sound Devices MP-2 limiter behavior? (Dave C) 24bit A/D -> 16 bit recorders, what happens... ? (jjjewett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hayden Berard" Subject: RE: Seeking John Mayer (Hayden) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:19:59 -0400 There is a ton of John Mayer already out there for such a short existance. Some sources rock, while others aren't so decent quality. Mostly aud, but there are SBD and FM. Be warned that a good chunk of the mayer community is just that, frat kids not to technical in the whole trading game. I recommend hitting up the tapers themselves for trades or what else. I have taped him 5 times and will trade with ya. I've also mixed a couple shows for other tapers and am putting together an archive/tour site at www.insidewantsout.com. I'm also not anit-competitive at all so also check out www.thejmtp.com Hayden aim: DMBHDB Hayden Berard aim: DMBHDB www.insidewantsout.com "Nothing makes white folks happier then a new Dave Matthews Band album." MAXIM http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?dept_id=771&band_id=341 ------------------------------ From: "Dave Stephens" Subject: extra shows offer Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:53:07 -0400 hey all ive got the following masters on cd and would like to get either abb spring shows or blanks (sony or mitsui) in return. sci 4-16-02 3d bill miller 3-8-02 1d sci 4-13-02 3d moe 5-18-02 2d scofield 5-18-02 2d galactic 4-5-02 3d sci 4-12-02 4d all were taped by me except the bill miller km 184 > dmic > d8 look for offers for the phil and abb combo shows after next week. thanx ds ------------------------------ From: Smashmark@aol.com Subject: Elvis Costello at the Beacon Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:52:39 -0400 Hi.. wondering if anyone recorded the second night of Elvis at the beacon, 6/19. I got a great recording on the first night, 6/18 also interested in other Elvis shows from the tour... thanx smashmark@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Subject: FS: Sonic Studios DSM-6SL + PA-6LC3B Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:14:10 -0400 FS: Sonic Studios DSM-6SL + PA-6LC3B Just bought these mics and bass roll off 2 months ago. Used them to tape 1 show, but can't afford to keep them. Amazing sound, no less then 3 hours used on it. MINT condition, still has a 2 year warranty left with Sonic Studios. Comes with original case and receipt from Sonic Studios. contact frank- release@rogers.com. 550$ U.S includes shipping anywhere in the States or Canada. ------------------------------ From: L Sean Kennedy Subject: If you are having trouble posting Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0400 Hi, There are a few queued dat-heads-owner questions about posting problems, which I feel explained in detail if you send a message to dat-heads-help@datheads.phish.net Please read your error message first, and then look there. If that doesn't help, please contact dat-heads-owner, but I am a little swamped and want to help those having trouble unsubscribing (recontact me). The most common error is Microsoft Outlook sends HTML by default and we require plain text. You can easily change this per-message, with dat-heads in your address book, or to your default. For the per-message, when composing go to "Format" and select "plain text," that is all (similar on Mac). For more details and the other options use the help address. Sean ------------------------------ From: "rush fan" Subject: Looking for Macca 2002 SHN FTP trades Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:50:59 -0400 I have the following and am looking to trade for any others: April 3 - San Jose - Aud April 10 - Chicago - Aud April 21 - Long Island - Aud April 24 - Washington DC - ALD April 27 - New York City - Aud May 15 - Tampa - Aud June 3 - Buckingham Palace - SB Plus the VH1 video from June 3 in VCD MPGs I am looking for any other shows from the Driving Rain tour. Trades to be done via FTP. RT _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Jim Hirte Subject: ISO: Botch 6/15/02 Showbox, Seattle, WA Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:06:26 -0700 (PDT) If by some slim chance someone taped this.. looking for it for some friends... Have much to trade, email for list. -Jim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Jim Hirte Subject: D8 battery holder Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Anyone know where to get these at??? please email me (j_hirte@yahoo.com) thanks! -Jim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Kevin Brown Subject: re: 24 -> 16 bit recording? Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:21:13 -0700 (PDT) >> if you ran a 24bit stream into a DAT, it would record at 24bits That's not correct, is it? DAT records "linear PCM" which is 16/44.1 (the CD standard), or 16/48 (the original DAT standard), right? (Or 16/32, but that's different.) I thought DAT is always 16 bit... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Parker Subject: John Coltrane WKCR July 5-17 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:47:03 -0700 The John Coltrane marathn special is coming soon. WKCR in New York City will stage a John Coltrane Festival from July 5 to 17. Possible chance of unheard recordings being played. Hope someone can tape parts of it. Maybe two people could alternate, and tape in shifts. Mike ------------------------------ From: Mathias Rombach Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C4rzte=2DConcert?= from Berlin-Kreuzberg Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:37:49 +0200 Hello all, today I recorded from the german radiostation "Fritz" a liveconcert of the german punkrock band "Die Ärzte". This might be interesting especially for german dat-heads and related persons. You get my list upon request. Mathias ------------------------------ From: hudson fowler Subject: random digi-blasts Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) O.K. I'm running 60m Sony DDS tape in a new D8 (about 20 hrs old) and I've noticed 3 or 4 ultra short, sub-second digi blasts in my last two tapes. Does anyone know what could be causing this? I ran maxell 60m dds on a previous show with perfect results. Has anyone gotten some bunk Sony DDS lately? BTW, this is digital noise (bad or missing data) for sure, not some mystery PA static. No a/d converter for me, straight in the mic in (AT853>Oade Mod. D8). Any ideas? I'm at a total loss on this one. -Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Mathias Rombach Subject: DA-P1 digital inputs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:33:24 +0200 Hello, I have the Tascam DA-P1 and the following happened: Connecting a 48 KHz Digital Source, it was possible to change the recorded sampling frequ. on the DA-P1. So I could switch between 44.1 and 48 KHz. Has somebody else seen that ?? Mathias ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: FS: 2 PLQ Charlotte Tix Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:37:44 -0400 I have these 2 PLQ tix to sell for face value: PHIL LESH AND FRIENDS VERIZON WIRELESS AMPHITHEATRE Friday, Jul 26 2002 3:30PM Seat Location (SECTION SEC2, ROW G, SEATS 27 TO 28) Total Charge $102.90 That's CENTER section...... 7th row! Please contact if interested. Thanx! D-Rider ------------------------------ From: "datman" Subject: SGI DAT DRIVES $75 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:19:11 -0500 SGI DAT TAPE DRIVE WITH AUDIO SUPPORT CTD8000H-S 3.5" form factor drive with rails and 5.25" bezel (i.e., CTD8000R-S) This Peregrine series DAT drive has 4GB native capacity with 120m tapes and 8GB hardware compressed capacity. SCSI interface. This drive supports both data and DAT audio and can read/write audio at 2.2x with special software for the PC, e.g. vdat or dat2wav. SCSI inquiry string reports "ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX 5AC". This drive is used, but has been tested and is in excellent working condition. No international shipments. Fixed insured shipping cost of $10 for UPS ground or equivalent. Paypal accepted for credit card transactions. USPS Money order/cashier's check also accepted. E-mail datman@midsouth.rr.com with any questions. Thanks, Robert ------------------------------ From: David Carmean Subject: Re: 24bit A/D -> 16 bit recorders, what happens... ? Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:39:34 -0700 On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 03:22:10PM -0400, Todd Romero wrote: > > im not sure i follow. if you ran a 24bit stream into a DAT, it would > record at 24bits, unless you ran an analog connection in. when you say > "16-bit gear", you are reffereing to the internal A/D converter. but you > aren't using the DAT's internal A/D. you are running digital in at 24bits. The digital data format encoded onto the DAT tape provides for either 16-bit linear or 12-bit non-linear-encoding samples only. 16 bits at 44.1 or 48 ksps and 12-bits at 32ksps for long-play. The Tascam DA-45HR is the only "DAT" deck than can record 24-bit samples on 4mm DAT media, using a non-standard format. ------------------------------ From: Jim Amentler Subject: Looking for European Tapers for Arjen Lucassen (Ayreon, Star Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:54:20 -0700 --=======46042A18======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2C2017A1; boundary="=====================_583531223==_.ALT" --=====================_583531223==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2C2017A1; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If anyone is able to tape the following shows please contact me. I would love to trade for any and (ideally) all of the shows that Arjen will be doing. Thanks in advance, Jim Finally, I've decided to play live! It will be a short European tour under the name of "Star One featuring Ayreon". We will play shows in Holland, Germany, France and Belgium and the support band will be Vandenplas from Germany. The tour motto will be "Intergalactic Space Crusaders" and we will play Star One *and* Ayreon material. These are the 9 musicians (to be confirmed): Guitars: Arjen Lucassen (Ayreon, Star One, Vengeance) Drums: Ed Warby (Ayreon, Star One, Gorefest) Bas: Peter Vink (Ayreon, Finch, Q65) Keyboards: Joost van den Broek (Sun Caged) Vocals: Russell Allen (Ayreon, Star One, Symphony X) Vocals: Damian Wilson (Ayreon, Star One, Threshold) Vocals: Robert Soeterboek (Ayreon, Star One, Wicked Sensation) Vocals: Floor Jansen (Ayreon, Star One, After Forever) Backing Vocals: not confirmed yet And these are the dates: 28 September: Zoetermeer - Boerderij (Holland) 29 September: Tilburg - 013 (Holland) 30 September: Hamburg - Markthalle (Germany) 01 October: Bochum - Zeche (Germany) 02 October: Aschaffenburg - Colos Saal (Germany) 03 October: Paris - Ellysee (France) 04 October: Antwerpen - Hof ter Loo (Belgium) 05 October: Rijssen - Lucky & Co. (Holland) I'm really looking forward to finally seeing you all on this tour! There will be more detailed info later. Right now I'm going to rehearse like crazy! ;O) Arjen. Of course we will keep you updated on any news around Star One's upcoming tour. So make sure to bookmark this site and visit us! Tickets will be available from June 22nd at the large post offices in Holland and through www.ticketservice.nl. You might want to check out the venue sites about this as well! --=====================_583531223==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2C2017A1; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If anyone is able to tape the following shows please contact me. I would love to trade for any and (ideally) all of the shows that Arjen will be doing.

Thanks in advance,

Jim


Finally, I've decided to play live! It will be a short European tour under
the name of "Star One featuring Ayreon". We will play shows in Holland,
Germany, France and Belgium and the support band will be Vandenplas
from Germany. The tour motto will be "Intergalactic Space Crusaders" and we
will play Star One *and* Ayreon material.

These are the 9 musicians (to be confirmed):

Guitars: Arjen Lucassen (Ayreon, Star One, Vengeance)
Drums: Ed Warby (Ayreon, Star One, Gorefest)
Bas: Peter Vink (Ayreon, Finch, Q65)
Keyboards: Joost van den Broek (Sun Caged)
Vocals: Russell Allen (Ayreon, Star One, Symphony X)
Vocals: Damian Wilson (Ayreon, Star One, Threshold)
Vocals: Robert Soeterboek (Ayreon, Star One, Wicked Sensation)
Vocals: Floor Jansen (Ayreon, Star One, After Forever)
Backing Vocals: not confirmed yet

And these are the dates:

28 September: Zoetermeer - Boerderij (Holland)
29 September: Tilburg - 013 (Holland)
30 September: Hamburg - Markthalle (Germany)
01 October: Bochum - Zeche (Germany)
02 October: Aschaffenburg - Colos Saal (Germany)
03 October: Paris - Ellysee (France)
04 October: Antwerpen - Hof ter Loo (Belgium)
05 October: Rijssen - Lucky & Co. (Holland)

I'm really looking forward to finally seeing you all on this tour!

There will be more detailed info later. Right now I'm going to rehearse like crazy! ;O)

Arjen.

Of course we will keep you updated on any news around Star One's upcoming tour. So make sure to bookmark this site and visit us!

Tickets will be available from June 22nd at the large post offices in Holland and through www.ticketservice.nl. You might want to check out the venue sites about this as well!
 --=====================_583531223==_.ALT-- --=======46042A18======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2C2017A1 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/2002 --=======46042A18=======-- ------------------------------ From: Malcolm Hathaway Subject: Prodif24 problem Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:01:04 -0400 Hey everybody, I just installed a Prodif24 (okay, so I'm a little behind the curve), and found that it would not play a CD from either my CD-ROM or my CD-RW through its analog output. The guy at Prodif - US (Plus24 in LA, I think) said (after a week of puzzling over it) that Win 98 SE doesn't have the ability to send digital data from the CD straight over the bus to the Prodif, so that the Prodif can turn it into analog output. (Win 98 CAN apparently take digital data from a .wav file on the hard drive and send this to the Prodif, where it is turned into analog output). He thinks there may be a patch for Win98 SE that will do this. Anybody heard of this problem, the patch, or have you ever gotten a CD to play through the Prodif24? Thanks! Mac ------------------------------ From: Dave C Subject: Sound Devices MP-2 limiter behavior? Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:26:12 -0700 I just recorded my first show with my new mics and preamp the other night--Oktava MC-012s and Sound Devices MP-2 (into a Sony M1). I have the MP2 limiters set to kick in at about +14dbU on the MP2, and have a knob setting on the M1 such that I essentially cannot clip to tape. I did have the limiters linked. Looking at the waveform in Cool Edit, during loud applause, the I can see the limiting that I saw when tracking, but on the left channel it's decidedly asymmetrical. I.e. the waveform is bumping up against -3dB positive, but on the negative half it's quite blocked off at about -5dB. If I look closely, I can see that the right channel is slightly asymmetrical, but the left almost looks clipped at low timescale zoom. And in fact the right is about 1.5dB "louder" than the left. I can't hear anything wrong, at least on this soundcard/amp/monitor system, but I'd like to figure out what's going on. FWIW, the show was Mike Doughty, at SF's Great American Music Hall. I'll do three CD-R only B&Ps once I get it mastered in the next few days. Thanks.... ------------------------------ From: jjjewett Subject: 24bit A/D -> 16 bit recorders, what happens... ? Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:13:37 -0400 if you ran a 24bit stream into a DAT, it would record at 24bits, unless you ran an analog connection in. when you say "16-bit gear", you are reffereing to the internal A/D converter. but you aren't using the DAT's internal A/D. you are running digital in at 24bits. wrong. If you send a 24-bit digital signal into a DAT deck, then the deck would truncate bits and record at whatever its A/D is capable of (16 bit for a d7/8, bit a D100 and M1 will take 20 of the bits and reduce the word length to the 16-bit DAT standard much more gracefully than a d7/8 truncating 8-bits.) John ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************