DAT-heads Digest #379, Volume #6 Sat, 6 Jul 02 10:50:01 EDT Contents: Recording From Phono (Klay Anderson) sexmob 2002-07-01? (Michael Blakeley) ISO: Rush 2002 ("Tatina, Bill") A technical question: IEC958 Pro versus SPDIF (Mike Yates) off topic - fed ex ground (mike hooker) re: taping phil (Nick Georges) ISO Indigo Girls & Neil Finn . . . (David Danek) Re: An Indigo Girls taping experience (Eugene Hu) FS: Amazing Mics, amazing price. ISO any Pat Metheny recent tour..tnxs!! ("Red Eye") Re: taping phil (Robert Fisher) 2002 Tommy Lee shows WTD (Zoso483103@aol.com) Re: taping phil (Todd Romero) re:taping phil ("Jason Smith") SGI DAT DRIVES $75 ("datman") Anyone Taping The Who ("Satsuki Tomono") Finding future TV shows with Trey or anyone else ("Gary Davis") Finding future TV shows with Trey or anyone else ("Gary Davis") JULIANA HATFIELD tapers needed 8-1 to 8-25 (BadRep2000@aol.com) FT Chris Isaak 7-05-02 ("TCH") Digital I/O adapter ("Alexander Matchugovsky") tom petty at pnc tonight 2 tix ("George S.") Extra DATs ("Matthew Peters") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klay Anderson Subject: Recording From Phono Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 09:10:25 -0600 mike hooker Subject: off topic: dubbing vinyl to DAT asked: > i have a bunch of vinyl records i want to dub to DAT, after doing some click > removal . its my understanding that the output of a turntable isnt correct to > go directly into a sound card. You must use a phono preamp to invert the RIAA EQ curve and amplify the signal to line level. The cheaper standalone preamps generally suck; adding more noise and hum. Use the record out on your hi-fi preamp into the line level input of the card. Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: Michael Blakeley Subject: sexmob 2002-07-01? Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:15:21 -0700 Did anyone record Sexmob on 7/1? I'd like to set up a trade. thanks, -- Mike ------------------------------ From: "Tatina, Bill" Subject: ISO: Rush 2002 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 08:16:54 -0700 The Tour Just Started and I have plenty to Trade ------------------------------ From: Mike Yates Subject: A technical question: IEC958 Pro versus SPDIF Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:10:08 -0700 This is a technical discussion to give a foundation for practical question for the experienced members of this list. The question, first: After changing the physical format of SPDIF (defined as 'consumer' by IEC958 specification), will professional equipment that is looking for AES-EBU (AES6) and/or IEC958 Professional accept the audio data stream from SPDIF (IEC958 consumer)? From what I understand, AES-EBU audio converged to AES6. That was merged in an international standard, IEC958 which defined both consumer digital audio (commonly known as SPDIF) and a Professional level. The consumer and professional standards have different connectors and physical voltages, which I can deal with, changing SPDIF to the Professional physical interface with a few parts. However, both the consumer SPDIF and the professional have tables of (meta)data included in the audio data. The AES-EBU spec and IEC958 Pro are identical tables up to a point where AES-EBU left some open/undefined fields, and therefore they are, I understand, effectively interoperable. The consumer IEC958 has the same initial table fields but highly abbreviated when compared to the Professional IEC958. If common equipment pretty much ignores the extended data, then SPDIF audio converted to the IEC958 Pro physical interface should work. Does it in the real world? I need some understanding that it will work before I sent a piece of gear out (multiple times, multiple places, multiple equipment types that expect IEC958 Pro) and find it will not operate.... The folks on this list seem to be a very widely experienced and likely to know the practical answer. Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Mike Yates ------------------------------ From: mike hooker Subject: off topic - fed ex ground Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 12:11:57 -0400 hi, here's what i know about fed ex ground. they are operated by guys that own the routes and work for themselves. they used to be roadway express( RPX) routes. fed ex bought roadway and started a ground service. all fed ex ground packages get sent thru the old roadway system. my bro-in-law was a RPX guy, and sold his route when fed ex took over. they were forced to deliver the fed ex ground packages at a rediculously low rate, i believe at the time a few years ago it was 25 cents per package, no matter how big or heavy. fed ex couldnt give two shits about the ground packages and pay dick to deliver them. no wonder stuff gets lost and broken. you get what you pay for. use fed ex ground , pay fed ex good money, and fed ex in turn spends peanuts to get the package delivered. i dont know for sure if its any differnet now, except that the RPX trucks have been repainted fex ex ground colors now. UPS isnt much better, and those guys make nice money. ive had two claims for damage in 6 months with them, and i'm not a heavy shipper by any means. i was told by a UPS guy that gateway used those dopey cow boxes so UPS knows they are gateway computers and doesnt play rugby with them. a lot of people that ship electronics stay away from UPS. please see my music trading page: New URL http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html being its AOL, its not always up. try it a few times, or ask me for a text list. thanks have fun, mike hooker ------------------------------ From: Nick Georges Subject: re: taping phil Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 13:15:58 -0400 quoted from earlier post: "However, this year taping in the lawn is being strictly enforced. I have not heard of ANYBODY getting away w/ running a stand FOB at ANY level at any of the PLQ shows so far this Summer." this is a contradiction to what I have been hearing on other lists. For example, this was on the OTF board this morning; " If anyone is going to any of these shows that are left for the Summer I would try to get pavillion tickets because the venues will let you run anywhere, me and Scott just got back from running Riverbend,Cuyahoga and Pine Knob." now this isn't universal for the summer, I'm sure. Venues will differ..... but it's nice to see that things are not as tight as they might appear to be. It's all about staying low profile, even when it's allowed. happy taping... ------------------------------ From: David Danek Subject: ISO Indigo Girls & Neil Finn . . . Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Looking for recent and upcoming shows of the Indigo Girls and Neil Finn. Have plenty of both to trade and hope to roll both shortly. . . BWT coming soon ;-) Thanks, Dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Eugene Hu Subject: Re: An Indigo Girls taping experience Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:38:58 -0700 > Summary [for those with short attention spans]: Off > the front of a balcony (if in a theater where the > balcony sounds decent) is probably your best bet. Or run your mics in a hat if you're sitting elsewhere. A little extra height is usually a good thing. -Eugene ------------------------------ From: Subject: FS: Amazing Mics, amazing price. Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:41:43 -0400 I need to sell these a.s.a.p. First 500$ US gets it. These mics are MINT, they were only used for 1 show, and now I need the money to pay rent. FS: Sonic Studios DSM-6SL + PA-6LC3B Just bought these mics and bass roll off 2 months ago. Used them to tape 1 show, but can't afford to keep them. Amazing sound, no less then 3 hours used on it. MINT condition, still has a 2 year warranty left with Sonic Studios. Comes with original case and receipt from Sonic Studios. contact frank - release@rogers.com. 500$ U.S includes shipping anywhere in the States or Canada. ------------------------------ From: "Red Eye" Subject: ISO any Pat Metheny recent tour..tnxs!! Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 15:50:10 -0400 Hi, I'm looking for any Pat Metheny from the recent tour. Contact me for trades, Thanks, Red@ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Robert Fisher Subject: Re: taping phil Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 16:01:50 -0400 There were 4 or 5 stands clearly visible in the pavilion at Deer Creek. They were around 8ft high. I couldn't tell for sure, but I think one was FOB. My thoughts are...set up in the pavilion, and if they say tear down, then just go back to the lawn and grab a patch. Happy Taping, Rob ------------------------------ From: Zoso483103@aol.com Subject: 2002 Tommy Lee shows WTD Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:21:54 EDT Lot of stuff for trade...I was the 2nd night at the House of Blues in Hollywood and should have taped it but i was on vacation. Planning on taping one of the next few shows. Shout at the devil- Zoso483103@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Todd Romero Subject: Re: taping phil Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:52:39 -0400 (EDT) now see IMO, given the inconsistant state of things with P&F taping, ppl running 8ft stands FOB, are only going to worsen the likelyhood of P&F continuing to allow stands anywere. i think anyone planning to use a stand FOB should live by the beautifully worded quote the guy Nick sent earlier: "It's all about staying low profile, even when it's allowed." :):):) On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Robert Fisher wrote: > There were 4 or 5 stands clearly visible in the pavilion at Deer Creek. > They were around 8ft high. I couldn't tell for sure, but I think one > was FOB. > > My thoughts are...set up in the pavilion, and if they say tear down, > then just go back to the lawn and grab a patch. > > Happy Taping, > Rob > ------------------------------ From: "Jason Smith" Subject: re:taping phil Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:17:04 -0400 I saw 3 shows. Indy, Detroit, Cinci. At all 3 there were stands FOB in the pavillion. Some were very high. Including some poor fellow at Detroit that had a mic almost knocked off by a giant beach ball. Jason ps. if anyone has any of those shows i'd love to get them! ------------------------------ From: "datman" Subject: SGI DAT DRIVES $75 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:25:08 -0500 SGI DAT TAPE DRIVE WITH AUDIO SUPPORT CTD8000H-S 3.5" form factor drive with rails and 5.25" bezel (i.e., CTD8000R-S) This Peregrine series DAT drive has 4GB native capacity with 120m tapes and 8GB hardware compressed capacity. SCSI interface. This drive supports both data and DAT audio and can read/write audio at 2.2x with special software for the PC, e.g. vdat or dat2wav. SCSI inquiry string reports "ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX 5AC". This drive is used, but has been tested and is in excellent working condition. No international shipments. Fixed insured shipping cost of $10 for UPS ground or equivalent. Paypal accepted for credit card transactions. USPS Money order/cashier's check also accepted. E-mail datman@midsouth.rr.com with any questions. Thanks, Robert ------------------------------ From: "Satsuki Tomono" Subject: Anyone Taping The Who Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:30:32 +0900 I'm looking for the following shows: JUL 1 - Los Angeles, CA - Hollywood Bowl JUL 3 - Mountain View, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre JUL 4 - Sacramento, CA - AutoWest Amphitheatre JUL 6 - George, WA - The Gorge Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks, Satsuki fwnp6824@mb.infoweb.ne.jp ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Finding future TV shows with Trey or anyone else Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:11:56 -0700 www.rockontv.com allows you to type in the name of any artist and find all upcoming TV appearances... you can check it every week or every few weeks. If you type in Phish you will probably also get Trey. I tried it now and found a repeat of Sessions @ W54th coming up on Trio (DirecTV channel 315) on 7/10... --Gary ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Finding future TV shows with Trey or anyone else Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:12:02 -0700 www.rockontv.com allows you to type in the name of any artist and find all upcoming TV appearances... you can check it every week or every few weeks. If you type in Phish you will probably also get Trey. I tried it now and found a repeat of Sessions @ W54th coming up on Trio (DirecTV channel 315) on 7/10... --Gary ------------------------------ From: BadRep2000@aol.com Subject: JULIANA HATFIELD tapers needed 8-1 to 8-25 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:57:52 EDT Hello everyone, I'm looking for tapers for any of these Juliana Hatfield shows. I have a lot to trade plus will pay for a tix to anyone that can get a recording. Also trade JH photos. Please drop me a line. Thank you 07/11/02 at copley square in boston, ma 08/01/02 at maxwell's in hoboken, nj 08/02/02 at north star bar in philadelphia, pa 08/03/02 at the knitting factory in nyc, ny 08/05/02 at the middle east in cambridge, ma 08/07/02 at the grog shop in cleveland, oh 08/08/02 at little brother's in columbus, oh 08/09/02 at the patio in indianapolis, IN 08/10/02 at the double door in chicago, il 08/11/02 at the green room in iowa city, ia 08/12/02 at the 400 bar in minneapolis, mn 08/14/02 at the lion's lair in denver, co 08/17/02 at the bottom of the hill in san francisco, ca 08/19/02 at the knitting factory in los angeles, ca 08/20/02 at the casbas in san diego, ca 08/21/02 at the club congress in tuscon, az 08/22/02 at the launch pad in albuquerque, NM 08/24/02 at the bottleneck in lawrence, ks 08/25/02 at the blueberry hill in st.louis, mo ------------------------------ From: "TCH" Subject: FT Chris Isaak 7-05-02 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:32:13 -0500 Chris Isaak 7-05-02 Houston,Tx 1 1/2 hrs at853s>sony pcm-m1>d>2cdrs ......for trade...please send lists if interested hujar@ev1.net ------------------------------ From: "Alexander Matchugovsky" Subject: Digital I/O adapter Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:37:58 +0400 Can anybody recomend some digital I/O adapter (16 bit) for using it with SONY TCD-D7 or D3? I guess it is possible to find any more noiseless A/D converter than internal one, isn't it? Thank you. Alexander. ------------------------------ From: "George S." Subject: tom petty at pnc tonight 2 tix Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 09:53:28 -0400 hi everyone, i have 2 tickets for tonight's show in section 101 row w. my wife cannot get off from call at the hospital so if anyone's interested you can have them for face value. i'll check my mail periodically during the day for any response. it's going to be a good one. shine on george s. ------------------------------ From: "Matthew Peters" Subject: Extra DATs Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 10:24:42 -0400 I have extra copies of the following shows. Allman Brothers 9.12.98 90m FOB Sennheiser me-40 Medeski Martin and Wood 9.23.01 2 x 60m B&K4022 I will take a 60m for each tape. 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