DAT-heads Digest #380, Volume #6 Sat, 6 Jul 02 23:50:01 EDT Contents: Taping Phil ("Paul Kaytes") Oasis / Charlatans / BRMC - UK Simulcast (umlaut) Previte-Hunter at the Knitting Factory ("Alan Kayser") richard thompson ("Mike Hooker") ISO Hornsby at Villa Montalvo... (michael ryan) Pending trades... (michael ryan) FS: various gear [ DA-20, Ecocharge Beta, M-Audio 2448 ] ("Will Foy") FS: DA-P1 and PCM-M1 (Smagmapig333@aol.com) difference between DA20 and DA20mkII ("gordon wilson") Got MORE White Stripes? (TRANEHEAD@aol.com) ISO pentangle/john renbourn cdr trades ("sam matthews") FS: Buy one get one 50% off Giant Squid Microphone sale. (Darren) entire rig for sale ("Jonathan Rabhan") recording harp & flute question (Donald Forsha) ISO: Leftover Salmon 5-23-2002, Peoria IL ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.") taping phil ("DRider") Any experts here on Pro H.D. Recorders with CDR (bigjazzfan@hdni.cc) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Kaytes" Subject: Taping Phil Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:27:44 -0400 This recent leg has had Phil co-headling with the Allman Brothers Band. The ABB taping policy is "tape anywhere." I think this has led to confusion with some venues allowing pavilion taping (based on the ABB policy) and some lawn only (based on Phil). Phil may really enforce his policy when he's the only headliner on the next leg. Paul ------------------------------ From: umlaut Subject: Oasis / Charlatans / BRMC - UK Simulcast Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:12:34 -0700 If anyone in the UK is taping this please contact me: Oasis's Sunday 7th July London, Finsbury Park show will be broadcast exclusively on London's 104.9 Xfm. If you live outside London you can catch the broadcast on Sky Digital channel 864 or online at XFM The support slots from Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and The Charlatans will also be aired. Tune in on Sunday from 5.00pm! I would be very interested in all 3 bands and have a good amount to trade (inc. 2001-02 Black Rebel shows). ------------------------------ From: "Alan Kayser" Subject: Previte-Hunter at the Knitting Factory Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 12:53:39 -0400 Looking for anyone taping the shows on July 5,6,7 at the Knit. I have lots of jazz to trade. Contact me off list. Thanks Alan E Kayser _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Mike Hooker" Subject: richard thompson Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:02:05 -0400 hi, richard thompson is playing in NYC next week. anyone know if its acoustic or acoustic/electric? i'm assuming is solo, correct? anyone seen or taped it? thanks take at look at my music trading list ( new URL) http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html have fun, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ From: michael ryan Subject: ISO Hornsby at Villa Montalvo... Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Hey Now All! Looking for the very recent shows in DAT or disc form as long as the quality is VG or better. Due to the very recent loss of a friend and fellow taper I have just aquired a large collection. I will post some B/W tax's soon but must help the family sort things out for now. If you can B+P for now i would be in your debt and will make it right as soon as things get back to normal... TIA, Peace thru Music, Michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: michael ryan Subject: Pending trades... Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Hey Now All! I know I have some pending trades out there, but I am not at home and due to the death of a very close friend, I am a bit scattered. So please drop me a note if I have an open trade with you and i will try to get it cleared up ASAP. Times are rough right now, I am going to a 7 day work week, have to help the family sort through their sons personal effects and keep my Mom in good health, she is terminal and unfortunatly not doing well. Please do not take this a a sympathy plea or excuse. Its just the way my life is right now... Very hectic,so patience is all i am asking for. Thank You and I will be in touch ASAP and time allows.... Peace, michael __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Will Foy" Subject: FS: various gear [ DA-20, Ecocharge Beta, M-Audio 2448 ] Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:41:19 -0400 For sale: Most of this I'm selling because I've moved to a laptop based recording system, and have no further need of these items. --Tascam DA-20, single owner, missing rackmount "ears", one owner [ ears got missing last time I moved ], lots of hours[hundreds, I've never kept an accurate count], but do have 5-yr warranty from Oade's with about 2 years left, which is also included. Gently, but frequently used [mostly for Dat->Dat transfers or DAT-PC transfers] in a mostly smoke-free environment [ my mom smoked in the house, but never in the same room ]. Heads in good shape, but you never know as always. Make a reasonable offer. --Ecocharge power packs[2] + charger for Tascam DA-P1. I believe this was called the Beta system. It uses the 3-pin mini-xlr connectors. Also included is of course the minixlr-to-DA-P1 power supply cable. In case it comes up, I'm not offering to split this into parts. I've also used the heck out of these, but almost always do full discharges of each battery before recharging --Delta/M-Audio/Midiman DiO 2448 PCI audio card. Purchased new @ Sonic Sense, for about $100, make an offer. Works great, but I've got a laptop on which I do transfers now, using the Digigram card, so I have no further need of this. Driver cd included too. These items can be purchased separately, but if someone wants all 3 items, I'll consider a bundle deal. I'm not auctioning these right now, but if no reasonable offers are received you may see these on ebay later. Get them while you can make a reasonable offer! Shipping will be via UPS 3rd day select with insurance[ I think my office has a sweet deal with UPS on these, so I can probably make shipping pretty cheap. ], and items will be packed securely and safely. I look forward to hearing from you about any reasonable offer on these[to see what's reasonable, first check the retail price, then use that as a guide based on use]. PLEASE phrase your responses with the subject line : "DAT-Gear purchase offer", as I do filter my mail. Thanks for the reading. WOB tax: Flecktones 6.8.2002 from Smilefest on SHN disc to first respondent, as B+P. [ source: KM140's->HHB HDR1000->DigigramVXPocketv2, FOB ] ------------------------------ From: Smagmapig333@aol.com Subject: FS: DA-P1 and PCM-M1 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:13:44 EDT I'm looking to sell some of my gear so that I can buy of course, more gear. Tascam DA-P1: has under easily 20 hrs of recording on it. I bought it about 6 months ago and never really used it except for making couple clones. I never use DDS tapes or anything over 2 hrs (HHB/Quantegy and BASF audio tapes only). I planned on using it for phantom power but ended up selling the mics (Octava MC-012-01 cardiods) but sold them before I used them with it. It has never been used for field recording and has been kept in a smoke free environment. I have the original box/power supply/shoulder strap/battery (still sealed) and manual. Cosmetically it has a very light scratch (not into) more like a smudge on the plastic led window. I'm looking to get $1000 obo for this. And prefer COD delivery, I will cover shipping charges for the US only. Sony PCM-M1: purchased about a year ago, it mysteriously kept switching in-between recording freq 48/44.1/32hz for no apparent reason, I think the selector switch may have been faulty. I never use DDS tapes or anything over 2 hrs (HHB/Quantegy and BASF audio tapes only). My guess is that it has around 70-80 hours of recording time on it. The unit is in good condition and has never been dropped or abused. It comes with the original power supply and the soft cover that came with it from Sony. For this I'm asking $600 OBO also by COD. I will cover shipping in the US only. I'm looking to buy a Sonosax SX-M2 pre and/or Schoeps CCM4 or Neuman SKM140's and would entertain a trade +/- cash for these items. Email me at tapentrade@aol.com if you are interested. thanks, Mike ------------------------------ From: "gordon wilson" Subject: difference between DA20 and DA20mkII Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:32:20 -0400 ssia. What is the difference between the two? I have a mkII and love it. I have the chance to pick up a DA 20 for $200 and was wondering the differences (besides age). Gordon "A fool and his money are soon parted. I would pay anyone a lot of money to explain that one to me." Homer J Simpson ------------------------------ From: TRANEHEAD@aol.com Subject: Got MORE White Stripes? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:16:30 EDT looking for any of the recent and upcoming shows. got 20 or so to trade including 2 great masters from the El Rey in Los angeles at the beg. of june. thanks! ------------------------------ From: "sam matthews" Subject: ISO pentangle/john renbourn cdr trades Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 23:18:04 +0000 my new favorite band & guitarist. anyways, i'm looking for live shows, unreleased material or otherwise collectable shows from pentangle or john. my list is at: http://www.geocities.com/fangsdaddy/index.html if you'd like to trade or would even do me a B&P, please drop me a line. i'd really appreciate it. thank you sam band width tax: 2 B&P of the white stripes 3.31.02 "m", pittsburgh fob recording. csb/battery box flat>sony mzr50 md>cdr (burned as one long track) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Darren Subject: FS: Buy one get one 50% off Giant Squid Microphone sale. Reply-To: dnemeth01@sprynet.com Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 19:26:35 -0400 Hello, all, Just a heads up for those who are intersted in some mics. Don't know if this sort of thing is considered SPAM here or not. If so I apologise in advance. My mic biz, Giant Squid Audio Lab, is having a one time buy one get one half off sale on our entire stock of microphones. http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/ Buy any cardioid or omnidirectional mic and get another half off. You can mix or match cards and omnis. See the Giant Squid Audio Lab site for details. http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/ I am hoping to raise enough money from this sale to pay for the set up fees for accepting credit cards payments from my site and other things to improve my business. Giant Squid specializes in durable, high fidelity Binaural / Stereo and Mono miniature microphones for discriminating DAT and Mini Disc recording enthusiasts. All are hand made and tested. You will not be disappointed. If you have any questions feel free to email me. Have a nice day, :) Darren Nemeth dnemeth01@sprynet.com Owner of "Giant Squid Audio Lab" - Specialists in durable, high fidelity Binaural / Stereo and Mono miniature microphones for discriminating DAT and Mini Disc recording enthusiasts. http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Jonathan Rabhan" Subject: entire rig for sale Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:52:13 -0400 hey guys, been thinkin about selling my rig. i have to cut down on my touring. most of this gear is pretty damn new. i have the receipts for almost every piece of gear. i will NOT sell parts of the rig, i want to unload the entire rig at once. if i cannot do this, than i will keep the rig for now. i am not in any hurry to move it. this is my rig: apogee ad1k platinum w/ 2-15pin cables (in wood box) 2 - 12v eco charge batts/charger (bought jan 2002-taped 31 shows) D8 (bought june 2001-about 300hrs usage; half for recording, half for transfers to pc) - only have used sony dgp dds 60s and a few 90s. 6v eco charge batt/charger (bought june 2001-about 300hrs usage) neumann skm140s (active) mics (bought jan 2002-taped 31 shows) 2 - 7pin digicables, 1 active oade and 1 active sonicable jansport stratosphere backpack & wheeled pelican 1550WH case 2 sets of canare 3ft xlrs with neutrix connectors(1 set is black/gold) bogen 7.5ft stand RME digi96/8PST PCI soundcard for windows blank tapes, many other extras If you are interested in this rig or have any questions, drop me an email at "gear@rabhan.com". thanks. ------------------------------ From: Donald Forsha Subject: recording harp & flute question Reply-To: forsha41@earthlink.net Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 20:17:12 +0000 Thought someone here might be able to offer some tips and advice: I'm recording a flute & harp duo next week for a CD of wedding music. It will be mostly baroque and light classical. I've never recorded a harp or flute at close-range, so any advice is appreciated. My mic & pre selection follows: 2 AKG 414 2 Neumann KM184 2 Earthworks SR71 Soundeluxe U195 Royer R121 Great River 4 channel pre Sources will go direct to a Masterlink hard drive via a Soundcraft Ghost console. many thanks, Don ------------------------------ From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." Subject: ISO: Leftover Salmon 5-23-2002, Peoria IL Reply-To: wayne@hoxnet.com Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:48:22 -0500 (CDT) ISO: Leftover Salmon, 5-23-2002 A friend of mine was at this show and says it was incredible! I'd like to get a copy if anyone taped, or knows of anyone who taped this show. My friend said he saw stands, so there's something out there somewhere. I've got a tasty Salmon (w/Tony Furtado) from a few nights later at The Pageant, St.=A0Louis MO 5-26-2002 I'll offer up to two or three dat-heads for WOB tax: TS (right front corner of the soundboard) Neumann SKM-184 > Denecke PS2 > Sony SBM-1@44.1 > Sony PCM-M1 DAT. One 90M, two 60M's or 3 CD-R's --=20 Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. wayne@hoxnet.com http://www.hoxnet.com PGP Key ID 138BCEE1 ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: taping phil Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:06:40 -0400 The shows that you guys have been talking about were shows with THE ALLMAN BOTHERS BAND (ABB) ABB's taping policy is to allow tapers to TAPE FROM YOUR SEAT. It's totally AWESOME that ABB's policy seems to be winning out at these venues where they are sharing the bill w/ Phil!! Especially, after every GDTSTOO mail order announcement said that "taping will be from the lawn". However, the original post that I responded to was regarding taping Phil. It made NO mention of Phil shows w/ ABB. I have traveled across this great country to see Phil in a multitude of venues and I have I have seen numerous FOB rigs get shut down. Argue all you want. Flame me all you want. Experience is the best teacher! How about the jerks at the 420 show last year that showed up late and insisted on hoisting their FOB rigs to the rafters?? They did so even after the only 2 FOB tapers that were keeping a low profile offered them patches and even after the very same low profile FOB tapers politely urged the hoisters not to raise their mics so high. The low profile guys had made it through the first set w/ no problem. Then these jerks come on up front and insisted on flagrantly hoisting away. The low profile guys told them that this was not the taper section and such actions would get them ALL shut down. The jerks ignored them and hoisted away. The second set starts and Phil's crew comes down and not only pops the jerks, but the other low profile guys that were doing fine before. There are many more stories just like this. The fact that the taper section for the previous show was in the back row of the balcony did not help matters. I am not defending Phil's crew by any means. There are other bands who have engineers etc. that are MUCH MUCH MUCH more pro taper than Phil's crew or Bobby's crew. It's not Phil, it's the crew. Many times, tapers are an afterthought and we get put in the worst place possible. Taping from the lawn sucks!! If Phish and/or Trey can give us a section behind the SBD at the shed's, why can't GDTSTOO or Phil's crew??????? I am w/ the fellow that said to keep a low profile. Say you just drove 8 hours to begin a 3 show run of Phil shows from city to city. Say you worked quite a bit to get good FOB seats and have ALOT of money invested in tickets, not to mention all the expenses that go along. Say you plan on respecting the band's policy as much as possible and your mics will be in the hat. If someone else at any of these shows is able to get away using a Mini Bogen w/ some actives at head level and not get popped - you might try that too.... But you are not going to strut on in your 12' stand and hoist away, RIGHT?? If some other idiot shows up next to you and hoists away and you get busted as a result, even though you are in stealth mode - you will be pissed! RIGHT?? Any one of you that had gone to such lengths to get a good FOB recording while doing your best to respect the band's policies and all the audience members around you - would feel the same way. So all I am saying is keep a low profile and respect Phil's crew and the venue's security team. Carelessly hoisting your rig FOB when it's obviously not authorized is a defiant act. While your at, it fire up a big old phattie and see how many minutes you can record before there's a flashlight in your eyes and/or a hand on your shoulder. Don't be a jerk and spoil it for others. Like I said before - Consideration goes a long way! A little common sense never hurts either. Peace, D ------------------------------ From: bigjazzfan@hdni.cc Subject: Any experts here on Pro H.D. Recorders with CDR Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:57:58 -0600 Hi, I'm hoping someone on the list might be expert on the new category of Pro Audio Hard Drive Recorders with a CDR drive in them. There is one from Samson or Zoom that is about $1,000. It's got several inputs for guitar, mic,etc. But I really just want to dump cassettes and other analog audio to the H.D. and edit and burn a CDR using the unit. At this price point are there many brands / models to pick from? I know there is the Alesis Masterlink and a consumer Yahama unit. Both have hard drives inside and work a bit like a minidisc recorder for editing. I'm not sure how complex any of them are to use. Appreciate your help. If you have any opinions could you email me. Thanks, Mark bigjazzfan@hdni.cc ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************