DAT-heads Digest #393
Contents:
FW: Fs or trade Copy of Sony pcm-2500A manual and Never used Wired remote. ("kombi")
WATCH OUT FOR THE LIAR ("Bill J")
Don't Miss Puffy in Chicago. The Minneapolis show was great, (JH)
DA30MKII works again :) :) (Stuart Gerber)
ISO: Neil Halstead ("J Van")
more dredg tour dates - possible that i'll pay4 your ticket ("Steve Mew")
ISO: Vesica Pisces ("Dark Star Enterprises")
Anniversary or Dashboard Confessional shows (KindTaper@aol.com)
Juliana Hatfield shows only a few weeks away. (BadRep2000@aol.com)
lenny kravitz,ozzfest,wheezer,blondie/b52s pnc tix available ("George S.")
Getting started with DAT (Alejandro Montiel)
Philadelphia North Star Bar? ("Eric")
Re: Loud Crowd/Quiet music (Michael Edmonson)
Fs: 2 tix- Terrapin Station, GD reunion (Jason & Monique Riggs)
2 tix- Terrapin Station, GD reunion "CLOSED" (Jason & Monique Riggs)
ISO Taper 7/20/02 Club d'Elf in NJ ("Eric McRoberts")
ISO Taper 7/20/02 Club d'Elf in NJ ("Eric McRoberts")
Nomad 3 non-bit accuracy test ("Jamie Lutch")
From: "kombi" <kombi@tstonramp.com>
Subject: FW: Fs or trade Copy of Sony pcm-2500A manual and Never used Wired remote.
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:39:59 -0700
The manual will be a copy of the original. The wired remote has never
been used and still has the Sony twist tie on the cord. Did try it and
it does work. I only have 1 remote but can make many copies of the
manual. The remote is 35.00 and the manual is 12 a piece. Mail me for
more info.
The remote is a RM-R3
kombi@tstonramp.com
Will Trade for a copy of one of the David/Hagar Tour
Any Anthrax
Any Aerosmith
Any Ozzy
From: "Bill J" <johnwil1@hotmail.com>
Subject: WATCH OUT FOR THE LIAR
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:59:08 -0700
Fellow Dat-heads,
I'm not going to name call or act the fool. I'm simply going to state the
facts so that if any of you run into this person or think of trading with
him you might think twice.
I was contacted back in May of this year by a taper who wanted me to tape a
show in Seattle for him. He offered to send me a show and said he would put
me on the guest list. I told him that I needed to be sure that I'd be on the
list since I had to drive 90 miles roundtrip to tape the show. He assured me
that I would be on the list. That was the last honest thing that he told me.
When I went to the venue I was on the list as promised. I arrived early so
as to get the best chance to get a soundboard patch. I was one of the first
people in. When I went back to the board I was surprised to see another
taper already there with a lot of gear. 2 decks, a mixer, and a huge bag
with all kinds of taper gear. She had been able to get in with the bands and
was all set for a matrix. My only choice for a board recording was to patch
from her which I did. I watched my levels and made sure that they were good.
I didn't have headphones with me so my levels were all I had to go on.
I went home and listened to the show. There were a few spots that were a
little hot. The other taper had been getting too hot of a feed but I had no
way to tell. Let me say right now that when I say that the feed was hot it
was only hot in a FEW spots. Not a ruined recording by far. I sent the taper
in question the DAT master. I told him what I had found and that I would get
back to him on exact source info. I did so less than a week later.
That is when the lying began. I didn't bug this guy. I gave him space.
Remember...he's the one who contacted me. He's the one who offered to get me
on the list AND send me a show off of his list of my choice. I didn't hit
him up. Here's the copies of his e-mails he sent me:
From :
BillyCorgansBald@aol.com
To :
johnwil1@hotmail.com
Subject :
Re: tape a show
Date :
Sun, 19 May 2002 23:08:30 EDT
OK. I'll send you the radiohead show. Do you want it sent to the return
address? LMK and i'll get it out by Tuesday.
Thanks.
Joe
next:BillyCorgansBald@aol.com
To :
johnwil1@hotmail.com
Subject :
Re: tape a show
Date :
Wed, 29 May 2002 20:14:01 EDT
Yes i did. I still have to send your CD out, ive started a new job and have
been tied up.
Joe
This was his response to whether or not he wanted the source info. I made no
mention of the show I wanted in my e-mail. I simply asked if he wanted the
source info.
next:BillyCorgansBald@aol.com
To :
johnwil1@hotmail.com
Subject :
Re: tape a show
Date :
Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:46:02 EDT
It'll be out tomorrow.
Take care.
Joe
note the date...I finally e-mailed him and told him that I wasn't in a hurry
but wondered when I could expect the show he OFFERED me.
That's the last I heard from him.
You decide to tape for him/trade with him...do so at your own risk. He is a
liar. You are a liar Joe. I was a man and did what I said that I would do.
You didn't. I will remeber Joe. I will be there when and if you post again
to warn others.
I'm sorry to WASTE space but this guy lied to me and I thought I should warn
others.
BWT: B&P to the first 3 people to hit me up:
The Shins 4/14/02 Soundboard>XLR>1/8>M1>ana>iMic>SoundForge 4.5>CDWave>cdr
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From: JH <kc7fys@yahoo.com>
Subject: Don't Miss Puffy in Chicago. The Minneapolis show was great,
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:50:50 -0500
As mentioned before on the list, Japanese sensations, "Puffy" are touring
the US under the moniker "Puffy Amiyumi." Their Minneapolis show yielded a
great tape--not perfect, but pretty good.
July 17th Chicago Park West
July 19th 930 Club in DC
July 20th Irving Plaza
July 21st Boston Paradise
July 23rd Toronto Opera House
These small venues will probably be rare shows. It's a very smooth and fun
show for those who like the JPop.
More info: http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/eng/PuffyAmiYumi/flash.html
Jonathan
From: Stuart Gerber <stuart@mindspring.com>
Subject: DA30MKII works again :) :)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:30:55 -0400
Im a very happy dat owner at the moment .. listening to some great phil on
it right now to enjoy the moment.. but it kicked back in this evening .. be
it that it cooled off or something i dunno . .the 2 wet cleanings i had
done after the issue began didnt work at the time .. but pro dig told me to
run a dry tape on it .. and that may have unclogged the head... just
thought i would let everyone know its all good now :)
peace,
stuart
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"But can i bring a few companions on this ride?"
- Trey Anastasio
From: "J Van" <jvan1975@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Neil Halstead
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:15:45 -0500
Is anyone taping Neil Halstead on his current U.S tour? Please get in touch
if you are. I believe he is OK with taping,, although board access is
pretty much dependent on his mood that nightt. Here are the remaining
dates:
Tue 07/16/02 Asheville, NC Vincent's Ear
Wed 07/17/02 Carrboro, NC Cat's Cradle
Thu 07/18/02 Baltimore, MD Fletcher's
Sat 07/20/02 Arlington, VA IOTA Club & Cafe
Mon 07/22/02 Pittsburgh, PA Club Cafe
Tue 07/23/02 Cleveland, OH Beachland Ballroom & Tavern
Thu 07/25/02 Chicago, IL Schuba's
BWTax: The Shins, Stubbs Austin 7-13-02, SBD>M1 or Ugly Casanova ,
Rudyards Houston 7-6-02 SBD>M1 CDR only for now.
thanks
john
From: "Steve Mew" <paragon_of_virtue@hotmail.com>
Subject: more dredg tour dates - possible that i'll pay4 your ticket
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:59:21 -0700
more dredg tour dates
7/17/2002 New George San Rafael CA United States
7/26/2002 The Catalyst Santa Cruz CA United States w/Firesermon,
Catheters
7/28/2002 Chain Reaction Anaheim CA United States
7/31/2002 Phoenix Theatre Petaluma CA United States W/Local AM, Division
Day, Keeping
8/12/2002 House of Blues Las Vegas NV United States w/311
8/13/2002 Saltair Resort Main Pavilion Salt Lake City UT United States
w/311
dredg is still taper friendly, board i dunno
yeah if you can tape em on they're headling dates w/ a nice dat rig >
sonics, hebs etc, and pull a good tape, i'll even pay your ticket.
t.i.a.
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From: "Dark Star Enterprises" <jtsalike@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: ISO: Vesica Pisces
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 02:20:43 -0400
Hey Gang! Looking for some Vesica Pisces tapes. Plenty to trade,etc.
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Anniversary or Dashboard Confessional shows
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:02:19 -0400
Yes, da boy done gone emo crazy.
Anyone have any live stuff by the wonderful Kansas band "The Anniversary"? Recent or older shows are great. I am also looking for a super clean copy of the Dashboard Confessional unplugged that was on MTV2 a couple of weeks ago. A friend taped it for me but his VCR suxxx and it's a horrible copy. I would love to get a copy on DVD or low gen vid or I can transfer it for you. Even if all you have is the audio, I am still interested.
Please let me know if you can help with either.
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
From: BadRep2000@aol.com
Subject: Juliana Hatfield shows only a few weeks away.
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:54:33 EDT
Hello again everyone. I'm still looking tapers and offering a tix for anyone
that could get to see Juliana this tour and get a tape or vid. I trade photos
also. So far I'm going to all the east coast show except Philly. I few folks
have offered other shows but I'm waitnig to hear back.
Please write if your interested and the offer stands after the show to so
I'll reinburse for a tix for a tape. I think this is going to be a great tour
so even if your not taping try to go and enjoy them. Tell you friends to.
I'll send a reminder once more before the tour starts. Thanks for your time.
Bye for now
Date City
Venue
August 1 Hoboken, NJ
Maxwell's
August 2 Philadelphia
North Star Bar
August 3 New York City
Knitting Factory
August 5 Cambridge, MA
Middle East
August 7 Cleveland, OH
Grog Shop
August 8 Columbus, OH
Little Brother's
August 9 Indianapolis, IN
The Patio
August 10 Chicago, IL
Double Door
August 11 Iowa City, IA
Green Room (solo)
August 12 Minneapolis
400 Bar (solo)
August 14 Denver, CO
Lion's Lair (solo)
August 17 San Francisco
Bottom of the Hill
August 19 Los Angeles
Knitting Factory
August 20 San Diego, CA
Casbah
August 21 Tucson, AZ
Club Congress
August 22 Albuquerque, NM
Launch Pad
August 24 lawrence, KS
The Bottleneck
August 25 St. Louis, MO
Blueberry Hill
From: "George S." <fearless-pigeon@nac.net>
Subject: lenny kravitz,ozzfest,wheezer,blondie/b52s pnc tix available
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:41:06 -0400
hi everyone,
still have these orchestra seats for these upcoming shows at the pnc arts
center in homdel n.j. all are available for face value and are close to
center stage in section 203. please mail me off list if interested.
shine on
george s.
7/17 lenny kravitz/pink/abandon pools
7/19/20 ozzfest
7/23 wheezer/dashboard confessional/sparta
7/25 blondie/ 52's
7/28 brooks and dunn,dwight yoacham/gary allen/ect.
7/31 area-2:david bowie/moby/busta rhymes/blueman group/ carl cox/ john
digweed
From: Alejandro Montiel <mymjv2002@yahoo.com>
Subject: Getting started with DAT
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:55:17 -0700 (PDT)
Hello all:
I subscribed to the list recently due to an offer to
get a DAT deck from a neighbor of mine and became
really interested in learning more about DAT. The deck
I was being offered was defective which in the end
made me decide not to get it. However, I just bought a
Sony DTC-57ES at Ebay Germany for $100, which I think
was a good deal.
Now, my question is this: how do I start trading
tapes, since this is my first DAT deck ever and I do
not have a portable recorder to start taping (which I
plan to get for my birthday in September)??? What is
the best way to get started building a library of
tapes for somebody like me who is just getting started
with DAT? Anybody from Germany or Europe who is
willing to sell me some tapes to get started? If
anyone is willing to do this, send me your lists and I
will contact you directly off list to find out the
best way to go about this.
Any and all answers are more than welcome. Thanks a
lot!
Alejandro Montiel
P.S: I am local to Munich/Germany in case it makes a
difference. ;-)
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From: "Eric" <eric@ptd.net>
Subject: Philadelphia North Star Bar?
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:50:59 -0400
Hi, I heard about a year or so ago that security here is basically
nonexistant. I want to tape an upcoming concert there and was just wondering
if things are still the same. Please let me know about your experiences
there. Thanks!
From: Michael Edmonson <mikeedmo@unix01.voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: Loud Crowd/Quiet music
Reply-To: mikeedmo@voicenet.com
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:03:44 -0400
> I could use some advice on recording in a situation where the crowd is
> louder than the music in between songs and during highlights in the song.
> How do you get a loud enough recording level without going over with the
> crowd noise? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Obviously, recording with a cardioid rather than an omni mic would
probably give you better results in this situation; they would pick up
less of the audience, so the crowd would not spike your levels so
much.
If this is not an option, I would advise you to try using AGC (auto
recording levels) in this situation. I know this goes against the
gospel, but I would cite my experiences recording under these
conditions with CSBs and an M1:
1. manually set levels based on the music, applause went way
over and distorted horribly.
2. manually set levels and used the mic limiter, applause still
went over and distorted but not quite as often.
3. manually set levels conservatively and used the limiter, tape
came out okay but the levels for the music were lower than
I'd like. The strongest peaks on the tape were the audience
applause.
4. used AGC. Music levels were strong, yet applause _never_ went
over. On the tape there is very occasionally a noticable
"clamping" effect as the gain control kicked in which is slightly
annoying, but much better than the alternative IMO.
When dealing with this problem in existing tapes, I've found using a
hard limiter works well...you boost the input by however many db to
bring the music up, and the limiter automatically scales back the
applause to keep it from going over. The result is a recording with
more consistent and listenable levels, where the applause at the end
of a song will not have you leaping for the volume knob.
-Michael
From: Jason & Monique Riggs <mkwilson@iquest.net>
Subject: Fs: 2 tix- Terrapin Station, GD reunion
Reply-To: mkwilson@iquest.net
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:31:03 -0500
Hey All,
Well, I hate to do this but we can't go.....
2 tickets for each day @ Alpine Valley Aug 3rd & 4th.
First day: pavilion sec 201 (towards center) Second day: Lawn
Asking face value.
Drop me a line @ mkwilson@iquest.net or call (317) 797-9092
Thanks
Jason
From: Jason & Monique Riggs <mkwilson@iquest.net>
Subject: 2 tix- Terrapin Station, GD reunion "CLOSED"
Reply-To: mkwilson@iquest.net
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:56:01 -0500
SSIA
It took all of 3 min for them to go!
Gotta love the cyber age!
Jason
From: "Eric McRoberts" <microburst101@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Taper 7/20/02 Club d'Elf in NJ
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:31:05 -0400
Club d'Elf is playing a show on Saturday night at the Stanhope House in
Stanhope, NJ & the band is in need of someone to record the show. I cannot
make it down there so the band has granted me a guest list spot or two for
someone who would be able to go down & record the show. Someone who has
nice German mics would be a plus but at worst someone with just a DAT deck
who could patch off the soundboard would be fine.
Please send an email to microburst101@hotmail.com if interested.
-Eric
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From: "Eric McRoberts" <microburst101@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Taper 7/20/02 Club d'Elf in NJ
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:31:20 -0400
Club d'Elf is playing a show on Saturday night at the Stanhope House in
Stanhope, NJ & the band is in need of someone to record the show. I cannot
make it down there so the band has granted me a guest list spot or two for
someone who would be able to go down & record the show. Someone who has
nice German mics would be a plus but at worst someone with just a DAT deck
who could patch off the soundboard would be fine.
Please send an email to microburst101@hotmail.com if interested.
-Eric
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From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: Nomad 3 non-bit accuracy test
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:25:59 -0700
I tested it again with the new firmware that came out yesterday, the results
are
here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/creativenomad3/files/Nomad3-recording-test/
right now, the files section is not open for public consumption, so you
gotta be a yahoo member. I'm working with the listowner on this one.
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