DAT-heads Digest #396
Contents:
ISO: recent Gibb Droll 2001, 2002 shows ("Will Foy")
Fwd: Beachwood Sparks Plea (LONGHAIREDDAVED@aol.com)
Please limit the lenth of Bad Trader Alertsd (Matthew Thayer)
Please limit the lenth of Bad Trader Alerts! (Matthew Thayer)
Rode NT5 (Charles Muccia)
EAC Shortfall (Keith Bode)
FS: 2 July Who tickets NJ CHEAP (sean madigan)
RE:: rack mounting (Mike Parker)
Extra SCI for Tonite ("Ed Fisher")
phil taping (Todd Romero)
Physical differences DPA 4060 4061 4062? ("Andy Liu")
Somebody at Creative is listening ("Jamie Lutch")
FS: WSP Berkeley Tapers Tickets ("Trevor Pratte")
ISO: Tom Lippi - Need your address! ("Vince Horst")
Newbie Questions (Greg Gardner)
Transferring DAT to PC to CD? ("Glyn")
Steve Earle wanted (dolphin smile)
ISO ( GRISMAN 2000 ) (CCFLAMEWORKS@webtv.net)
fs: tascam da-p1, 6v ecocharge system and tascam wall wart (Blackpete@aol.com)
Galactic Management ISO May 15, 2002 ("BiLL")
Death Cab For Cutie - UK Tapers Needed (Andy Swinburnson)
possible for sale: ad2k+ (Scott C. Brown 02)
ISO Neil Finn July 2002 (David Danek)
Classical Concerts in Tokyo (Masato Kato)
From: "Will Foy" <willfoy@pobox.com>
Subject: ISO: recent Gibb Droll 2001, 2002 shows
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:29:40 -0400
If anyone's taped the Gibblin lately [ Gibb Droll ], either solo, or
with Dave Slankard and Nate Brown as his 3 piece ensemble, please get in
touch with me, I'd LOVE to work out a trade or possibly an e-trade of
those shows! I do have a couple to offer in trade as well.
WOB tax: Gibb Droll solo 12.7.2001 @ Monkey Bar on 1 SHN disc.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin
From: LONGHAIREDDAVED@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Beachwood Sparks Plea
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:48:58 EDT
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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:34:36 EDT
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hi friends...a longshot here,does anyone have an extra ticket for the
Shins\Beachwood Sparks show at TT the Bears in Boston on 7/23 ? also is
anyone familiar with Beachwood Sparks' taping policy? please drop me a line
off list...
peace....LONGHAIREDDAVED@aol.com
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From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: Please limit the lenth of Bad Trader Alertsd
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:06:29 -0700 (PDT)
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From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: Please limit the lenth of Bad Trader Alerts!
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
These posts are way too long and go with the territory
on occasion ( even though I never met one bad trader
)...and posts about Thieving , Bad Boy Bootleggers...
come on... please!
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From: Charles Muccia <cvm900@yahoo.com>
Subject: Rode NT5
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:49:25 -0700 (PDT)
Hey all,
Just like to bring these great mics to the attention
of those who might be looking for a good affordable
starting point or even an upgrade for their tape rigs.
I recently bought a set of RODE NT5's to use as my
primary mics. They're $300 as a matched pair with
clips,screens and case. I recently gave these mics
their trial run at the High Sierra Music Festival and
I was quite happy with the results,well worth the
money. If anyone is looking to buy their first set of
mics I would recommend these before the AKG
c1000's,which I have also used. The NT5's are about
the size of the KM184's and weigh about 100g each.
Specs are 20 to 20k hz with a slight 10 dB roll off
beginning at 12k hz,128 dB dynamic range,max SPL of
143 dB,78 dB s/n and cardioid pattern.
From a user stand point I can't honestly compare them
to Neumanns because I have never owned a set,they're a
little out of my price range. I have owned the AKG
c1000s and,IMHO,have been less than pleased with the
results. But for one third the price of the Neumanns
and a hundred less than what I paid for the AKG's,the
RODE's are worth a serious look. Everyone's got to
start somewhere,so it's always nice to get the most
bang for your buck!
Thought I would pass this on to anyone who might be
considering a mic purchase in the near future. I can
provide a copy of a show recorded with the NT5's if
anyone is interested in what they sound like. The show
is;
Particle 7-6-02 High Sierra Music Fest
NT5's > Rolls PB224 > D8 @ 44.1 > CD-R
Hope this was helpful.
Peace,Charles
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From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: EAC Shortfall
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:36:37 -0700
As I was the one to make the original statement, that apparently has
been discussed, and I didn't follow the thread, I stand by my original
statement:
If the program has a shortfall, it's the fact that
it can't tell if the CD-ROM you are using is accurate
or not, so the results are only as good as the
hardware.
A while back I was reading a study on the reults of DAE using EAC and
different CD-ROMs. I wish I had copied that study, because I found it
pretty startling, and also it would back up the claim. The study used 2
Plextor SCSI CD ROMs, a UW and a 50 pin. It also used various drives
from other manufacturers. Using EAC in Secure Mode, the Plextor drives
were able to perform the extaction of a given side of a CD with no
errors. No other drive could do that. If the software sees the same
error repeated, it won't see it as an error. it even checksout with
matching Even though the report indicated that the number of bit
errors reported was extrodinarily high in some cases >1 million, in no
case were the errors audible.
If this was not true, why would shn collectors clamor for SHN
conversions made from the original transfer from DAT or Cassette? They
believe that DAE is unreliable. It's not the DAE process with EAC which
is used for virtually all extractions that creates the problemb but the
variation between CD ROM's that leads to problems, and quality issues.
Keith
I really wish I had written down where I saw the study,
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From: sean madigan <sm6325@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: 2 July Who tickets NJ CHEAP
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
Two tickets for the Who this july in camden NJ at the
Tweeter center. I paid 193.00, will take 100.00. let
me know
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From: Mike Parker <parker@aracnet.com>
Subject: RE:: rack mounting
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:45:25 -0700
Hi,
I usually go to the Goodwill & look for an old "rack system" box with the
glass front door, usually given away by Fisher, ect with their cheap
systems. They are usually 17" wide, so check the width of your componants
first. Some are 19" which is perfect.
Mike
From: "Ed Fisher" <ecfisher3@comcast.net>
Subject: Extra SCI for Tonite
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:22:37 -0400
Hey all, I have an extra ticket for SCI at RCMH tonite, Row AA of the 1st
Mezz. Face was $44 inc. TB charges...would like to get around the same for
it. Thanks.
Ed
WOB B&P for SCI 12.28.01 (AKGC1000)
From: Todd Romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: phil taping
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:55:30 -0400 (EDT)
for this summer, did they sell tapers tix, or do u just need a lawn seat?
also, anyone see phil in the past week? aany stands visible in front of
board?
thanks!
From: "Andy Liu" <dwonk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Physical differences DPA 4060 4061 4062?
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:58:10 -0700
How can you tell these models apart without plugging them in? I think I can
see a difference by looking at them from the side when the protection
screens are taken off (seems like more of the holes that expose the diaphram
are seen as you move up in the model numbers). Is this true?
BWT: One FREE copy of Gin Blossoms 6-14-02 at The Rib Festival, Cincy, OH.
on 1 CD (Memorex, India as SHNs or WAVs) DPA 4021 (in hat)>MV-100>SBM-1>M1
PLACE 'OFFER' IN SUBJECT LINE, yer addy and SHN/WAV choice in the message.
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From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: Somebody at Creative is listening
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:07:04 -0700
Actually got an email from the chief engineer of the nomad jb3. He saw my
test results, asked me some questions, and said that they are working on
fixing the issue for future firmware :)
From: "Trevor Pratte" <tjp87@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: WSP Berkeley Tapers Tickets
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:06:26 +0000
I have two extra Taper tickets to each night of the Berkeley run. I'm
selling them for their $30 face values. The tickets do not say Taper on
them, but I called Musictoday and they confirmed that they are Taper
tickets. I can't go because I have to go to New York that weekend instead.
I'll accept paypal na dsend the tickets off ASAP.
Thanks,
Trevor
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From: "Vince Horst" <vincehorst@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Tom Lippi - Need your address!
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:07:02 -0500
Sorry for the public post. I've lost both Tom's email and mailing addresses.
Apparently I copied your mailing address down wrong because when I sent the
package that I owe you, it was returned to me. Oops!
Tom, can you please contact me off list with your address.
Thanks!
- Vince Horst
BWT: B&P for Great Big Sea, MN State Zoo Amphitheatre, July 17, 2002;
DPA4061/M1. 1 disc. Sounds pretty decent.
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From: Greg Gardner <gwg@well.com>
Subject: Newbie Questions
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:15:54 -0700 (PDT)
Sorry for the newbie questions. I am new to taping, so I don't know very
much. I am starting graduate school next month, so I do not have very
much money at all.
However, I recently bought a D7 and a 7 pin Coax for connecting Sony
portables. I also bought a mic with a standard mic cable. I think it was
called XLR. What else to I need to have a rig capable of taping? I want
to tape some live shows and also some quieter, normal talking tone
situations. I can't afford a top-notch setup, but I'd like an affordable
setup that will work. What is the minimum that I will need?
Also, what else do I need to run a patch? I know I need some additional
connectors and adapters, but I don't know what to look for or where to get
it. Also someone told me I would need to know the differnce between
active and passive cables and how to make them coexist. Can someone give
me a brief intro on how to patch and what else I'll need?
Thanks in advance for the help. I'm trying to patch at the Phil and
Allman shows in Atlanta. If I can, I'll offer them up to the group as a
BWT. By the way, is there anyone in this group who will be there? I'd
love a patch.
Thanks
Greg
From: "Glyn" <glyn@who.net>
Subject: Transferring DAT to PC to CD?
Reply-To: <glyn@who.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 21:57:40 +0100
I have a Casio DA-R100 portable DAT recorder and have a PC with Yamaha
DS2416 DSP Factory soundcard (amongst others :-) and was wondering the best
way (i.e.. highest possible quality transfer) to record this data to my PC.
I was thinking of connecting the DA-R100 to the DSPF via a 75 Ohm
stereo-jack->2 phono lead but was wondering what software you guys use to
record/save with?
I use Cubase VST 5.1 and also have Cakewalk Pro Audio 8 Deluxe but this
seems unnecessarily complex to set up the software to use the DSPF and I was
worried about ruining the recording with effects etc.
I also have SoundForge XP 4.0 that came with an old SBLive card and it would
seem that this might be a better way to record the DAT into - it will also
convert sample rate from 48KHz to 44.1KHz so that I should be able to burn a
CD to listen to in the car etc.
Should I record in 16 bit, 24 bit or 32 bit for highest quality?
I assume 16 bit would suffice as it is 16 bit in the first place!
What/how do you guys carry out this task?
Any other help/tips would be appreciated.
Thanks & regards,
-=Glyn=-
From: dolphin smile <thedolphinsmile@yahoo.com>
Subject: Steve Earle wanted
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
Im looking for any recent Steve Earle show where he
performs the song Jerusalem. Have plenty to trade.
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From: CCFLAMEWORKS@webtv.net
Subject: ISO ( GRISMAN 2000 )
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:18:48 -0400 (EDT)
ANYONE HAVE GATHERING OF THE VIBES SHOW 2000 WITH DAVID GRISMANS SUN
NIGHT PERFORMANCE !!!thanks a bunch !!!!
chris (:< --------
From: Blackpete@aol.com
Subject: fs: tascam da-p1, 6v ecocharge system and tascam wall wart
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:26:31 -0400
ssia: low hours(around 400) da-p1, nice condition. A couple of minor paint nicks, nothing terrible. Second owner, purchased from Ryan Alcorn fall of 2001, he bought it new in '99. Includes 6v ecocharge battery, charger and Tascam wall wart. 900.00 obo. Thanks, Marc. Please email privately at blackpete@aol.com
From: "BiLL" <coloradobill@attbi.com>
Subject: Galactic Management ISO May 15, 2002
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:14:12 -0600
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:29:17 -0500
From: Paul Peck <paul@superflypresents.com>
Subject: Band needs Copy of 5/15/02 Orlando, Fl. Show
Hello everyone,
It has recently come to my attention that the band is in need of a copy of
their May 15, 2002 performance at the House of Blues in Orlando, Florida.
If anyone has a good sounding disc of this show please contact me offlist.
Any help with this is greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Paul Peck
Superfly Productions / Management
paul@superflypresents.com
www.superflypresents.com
www.galacticfunk.com
Boulder BiLL formally BiLL from PHLORiDA
From: Andy Swinburnson <swinburnson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Death Cab For Cutie - UK Tapers Needed
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:14:34 -0700 (PDT)
Hello everyone,
Once again DCFC is going on a UK tour and
I'm trying to find people who can tape
audio/video. They allow taping, so long
as the venue doesn't mind, you should be able
to openly video and even get SBD patches.
The Festival dates will have to be stealthed,
but everything else can be openly taped, big
rigs and all... (venue dependent)
8/15 Charlotte (Leicester, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/16 Barfly (Cardiff, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/17 Moles (Bath, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/18 Soundhaus (Northampton, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/19 Barfly (Sheffield, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/20 Night & Day (Manchester, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/21 Garage (London, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/23 Carling Festival (Leeds, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/24 Gig On The Green Festival (Glasgow, UNITED KINGDOM)
8/25 Carling Festival (Reading, UNITED KINGDOM)
I don't care what kind of rig you have, even
analog, I'd just like to get all the shows
covered in some way.
For sound samples of the band to check them out,
see http://www.barsuk.com/web.cgi?dcfc
I've also got some live mp3's at my website
http://www.dcfc-tour.net/
Thanks much!!
-Andy
PS: If anyone is on a UK specific tapers list,
please post this to that list for me! Thanks!!
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From: Scott.C.Brown.02@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Scott C. Brown 02)
Subject: possible for sale: ad2k+
Reply-To: scb02@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG
Date: 19 Jul 2002 19:28:10 EDT
thinking of selling mine. bought in august 2001, great condition, i can give a
list of shows it was used at if anyone wants to know exactly how used it is
not sure what i'd be looking for if i do indeed sell, so make an offer....
scott
From: David Danek <hobbes4444@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO Neil Finn July 2002
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:29:06 -0700 (PDT)
Neil did some smokin' shows in Chicago, DC and Philly, among others.
Interested in getting any/all of the Summer 02 shows.
Dave . . .
who will hopefully will have a Neil NYC BWT for my next posting . . .
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From: Masato Kato <mindgame@m21.alpha-net.ne.jp>
Subject: Classical Concerts in Tokyo
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:16:34 +0900
Dear DAT-Heads,
Is there anybody out there who is interested in classical music?
I made some CDR copies for my friends and I still one or two copies
that are looking for a new owner.
The shows are as follows:
May 27 Mariinsky Theater Young Philharmonic
Gianandrea Noseda (cond)
Kazune Shimizu (piano)
Suntory Hall, Tokyo
Rakhmaninov Piano Concerto No.2
Tchaikovski Symphony No.6
Nutrocker
(I was in the 8th row left side)
June 23 Ivry Gitlis (violin)
Vahan mardirossian (piano)
Musashino Civic Cultural Hall
Bartok Rhapsodie No.1
Beethoven Sonata For Violin and Piano No.5
Brahms Schrzo in C Minor from "F.A.E. Sonata"
Bloch Nigun from "Baal Shem - 3 Pictures of Classic Life"
Szymanowski Spring of Arthuse from "Myth - 3 Poems"
(I was in the 5th row right side ---- violin is off)
June 25 New York Philharmonic
Kurt Mazur (cond)
Suntory Hall, Tokyo
Bernstein Serenade
Mahler Symphony No.1
Wagner Meistersinger
(I was in the 5th row center. Empress Michiko was there in the
audience.)
I used Sanken COS-11(s) > Wendt NGSX2 > SBM-1 > D8.
Masato Kato
<mindgame@m21.alpha-net.ne.jp>
<Loveminus0@gakushikai.jp>
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