DAT-heads Digest #401, Volume #6 Mon, 22 Jul 02 15:50:00 EDT Contents: Irradiated Mail (Jason Neely) Re: Etree Question (Mike Wren) FS: Earthworks SR-71s w/ Shocks (Mike Wren) Re: need to buy some dats ("American-Digital") Re: need to buy some dats ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.") Re: need to buy some dats ("American-Digital") ISO Foo Fighters shows on DAT or CDR ("Andrew .") Wilco 7/30, anyone willing to swap my row 16 off center for dfc or clos (Blackpete@aol.com) re: phil taping ("Hance, Bill") Food for thought about Mr. Levy (Dean) Looking for info on how to set up audio streaming (Ethan Alpert) re: schoeps edumacation ("Jamie Lutch") Plextor SCSI setup for sale ("Jamie Lutch") WANTED: soundboard/FM 2002 sam bush, elvin bishop or sonny landreth ("John R. Vanderpool") jah wobble / bill laswell 5-14-01 (pwking) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Neely Subject: Irradiated Mail Reply-To: bondibox@bellsouth.net Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:27:29 -0400 Traders, Last week a trader complained to me that the CD I sent her was incredibly smashed and unrecognizeable. Oddly, I had sent this in a hard plastic shell. The CD she described sounded a whole lot to me like what happens when you put a CD in the microwave - spiderweb cracking of the metallic layer. The following link confirms my suspicions, that ALL mail is being irradiated, not just mail headed for Gov't facilities http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/21/white.house.anthrax/index.html Has anyone else had media damaged in the mail this way? -jas ------------------------------ From: Mike Wren Subject: Re: Etree Question Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:33:07 +0000 (GMT) The power failure in lower Manhatten on Saturday took down the server that hosts etree.org, db.etree.org, and etreenews.org. Someone has to manually go to the colo to restart the box... we expect to be back online this morning. Sorry for any inconvenience... this is only the second outtage of more than an hour in 4 years ;) MW From: -bob Subject: Re: Etree Question Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:31:44 -0700 (PDT) It would seem that Etree.org is down again. It pings, but it won't display a webpage, nor my trading list. Most annoying is that I need the SHNAmp Plug-in and everyone has links to it at etree, but no mirror. (Not even CNET) Is there a SHNAmp available for D/L somewhere else ? Does anyone know what the deal is with etree ? I know they are a volunteer organization and a great resource, but are they being legally constrained by the new digital music laws, or simply down again ? ------------------------------ From: Mike Wren Subject: FS: Earthworks SR-71s w/ Shocks Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:43:35 +0000 (GMT) For sale: A pair of matched Earthworks SR-71 mics (with windscreens) and a pair of AT 8410a shockmounts... purchased used six months ago and ran at about 10 shows, all indoors. I purchaced SKM-184's about 4 months ago, and the Earthworks and have been sitting in my bag as backup mics. I paid $525 for just the SR-71's six months ago... looking to get $575 for the mics and the shockmounts, but all offers considered. Thanks! MW ------------------------------ From: "American-Digital" Subject: Re: need to buy some dats Reply-To: "American-Digital" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:02:39 -0400 > From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." > Subject: Re: need to buy some dats > > In the past, I've bought > tapes from American Digital, and from Cassette House and both companies > subsequently spammed me without my permission (is that redundant?). > Spam is one thing I will not tolerate. Everyone can have their own definition or interpretation of what makes an email SPAM. Perhaps Mr Hoxsie's definition would also include the post-order email with the tracking number. However, I must adimentily disagree with Mr Hoxsie. Getting an email from a company you have done bisiness with, by my definition, does not make it SPAM. Again, that is clearly up for individual interpretaion. Our email list was not bought or sold. Another key definition of SPAM. Your email was obtained, somehow, sold or whatever, and then you get sent SPAM. That is what makes it SPAM. The whole unsolicited nature. Your email obtained and sold. Our list is 100% generated by people who have contacted US. Not the other way around. Therefore, my definition, which I believe is mainstream, makes our email to our database not SPAM. That fact alone disputes Mr Hoxsie's opinion. However, he is absolutely entiled to his own idea of what is SPAM. For the record, everytime we send out an email to our database we get 10-15 people asking to be removed. Almost all are because they want it sent to a different account. We also get about 10-15 please add me to your email list. We aren't a fancy operation...we have no automated way to remove an email address other than by hand. If we are guilty of something we are guilty of not having an automated process. We are working on this. We have in fact missed removals. Perhaps Mr Hoxsie's asked to have his email removed and we dropped the ball. To err is human. If that is the case then I would agree with Mr Hoxsie that we sent him SPAM. However, when you look at all of this in context, we have never, nor will we ever, send SPAM (other that the above explained accidentally missed removal). It is a pretty low blow to accuse a company of a practice that they in fact do not engage. In a public forum no less. I personally will make sure Mr Hoxsie's email address and account is permanently deleted. Best Regards- Dan Haugh ------------------------------ From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." Subject: Re: need to buy some dats Reply-To: wayne@hoxnet.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:36:43 -0500 (CDT) On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, American-Digital wrote: > > From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." > > Subject: Re: need to buy some dats > > > > In the past, I've bought > > tapes from American Digital, and from Cassette House and both companies > > subsequently spammed me without my permission (is that redundant?). > > Spam is one thing I will not tolerate. > > Everyone can have their own definition or interpretation of what makes > an email SPAM. Perhaps Mr Hoxsie's definition would also include the > post-order email with the tracking number. > > However, I must adimentily disagree with Mr Hoxsie. Getting an email > from a company you have done bisiness with, by my definition, does > not make it SPAM. Again, that is clearly up for individual interpretaion. Let me be the first to apologize if I am in err. I am going on memory here from a couple of years back and not having any saved mail from that far back I only have my (admittedly fallible) memory on which to go. It may very well have been another company that I mistook for American Digital. If I order something from a company and a few weeks, or months later I get an email saying "Hey, check out our great deal..." I consider that spam (I didn't ask for it). I look very closely at the online ordering forms and if there is a check-box for this sort of "opt-in" thing I make sure it is unchecked. If it is not your policy to send this type of email to your customers then I apologize. [SNIP] -- Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. wayne@hoxnet.com http://www.hoxnet.com PGP Key ID 138BCEE1 ------------------------------ From: "American-Digital" Subject: Re: need to buy some dats Reply-To: "American-Digital" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:59:17 -0400 We need automation...badly. Asking to be removed and then doing so by hand leaves to much room for error. The opt in or out will be implemented with the addition of an automated email database. That will be coming shortly and hopefully eliminate any mistakes. One last time for the record. We have NEVER bought or sold any email list. Everyone on our list contact US. Not the other way around. I freakin' hate SPAM with a passion. It was a very tempting idea...especially in the early years...to buy a 1 million email list. SPAM the globe. Once you cross that line there is no going back. I proud of the fact that we operate without junk mail. In both mailboxes...on the street and on the PC. ===== Original Message ===== From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." Subject: Re: need to buy some dats > [SNIP] > > Let me be the first to apologize if I am in err. I am going on memory > here from a couple of years back and not having any saved mail from that > far back I only have my (admittedly fallible) memory on which to go. It > may very well have been another company that I mistook for American > Digital. > > If I order something from a company and a few weeks, or months later I > get an email saying "Hey, check out our great deal..." I consider that > spam (I didn't ask for it). I look very closely at the online ordering > forms and if there is a check-box for this sort of "opt-in" thing I make > sure it is unchecked. > > If it is not your policy to send this type of email to your customers > then I apologize. > > [SNIP] > > -- > Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. > wayne@hoxnet.com > http://www.hoxnet.com > PGP Key ID 138BCEE1 ------------------------------ From: "Andrew ." Subject: ISO Foo Fighters shows on DAT or CDR Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:05:11 +0000 Hi, never posted here but I'm guessing this is a longshot but I thought i'd try anyway. Does anyone on here have ANY foo fighters shows on dat or even cdr? I'm pretty new to dat and can't clone but if anyone would be willing to do b+p or 2:1's I'd be very apprecative. I also would be willing to trade 2-3 cdrs per dat. I'm basically looking for anything I can't find for a band thats pretty big their shows are almost impossible to find. Old shows, new shows whatever. Even if you can point me in the right direction that would be cool. Anything will make me happy :) http://www.angelfire.com/dc/foolist/ Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Blackpete@aol.com Subject: Wilco 7/30, anyone willing to swap my row 16 off center for dfc or clos Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:15:26 -0400 ssia: taping Wilco 7/30 and 7/31 in Minneapolis and Madison respectively. Madison is ga, but not Minneapolis. I have row P, but off center. If anyone around row 10-15 and fairly centered is willing to swap me tix, I'll of course get you both of the above shows, and the Wilco 3/11, 3/13,4/21 and 5/1/02 I will have in my bag at the show. Please email me privately at blackpete@aol.com to let me know where your seat is. Thanks, Marc. ------------------------------ From: "Hance, Bill" Subject: re: phil taping Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:38:21 -0400 >From: Todd Romero >Subject: phil taping >Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:55:30 -0400 (EDT) > >for this summer, did they sell tapers tix, or do u just need a lawn seat? >also, anyone see phil in the past week? aany stands visible in front of >board? >thanks! At the Camden NJ Phil Lesh show July 20th, taping was allowed anywhere in the venue. You could have been front row center and raised a stand. The ushers were asking that the stands be kept about head-high; it was explained to us that it did not have anything to do with whether folks behind you were being obstructed - the rule is intended to keep the damage down when it gets knocked over. :-) There were 35 stands out on the lawn, and at least 20 more under the roof. Most of those were FOB, center. Not sure about the availability of taping tickets - they were not needed in NJ. If you plan to roll Robert Hunter, be prepared. He comes strolling out onto stage already playing his first tune. -Bill "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" -George W. Bush, Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000 ------------------------------ From: Dean Subject: Food for thought about Mr. Levy Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:16:11 -0700 Hey all, Real quick. Sorry for the length but thought you folks might want to know. I set up a trade with Mr. Levy the night he put his first post up and before I had a chance to get to the post office in the morning, I saw the warning about him. I checked out the links posted thought it a little fishy and wrote him asking if he had anything to say about the warning that was posted about him. This was his response: You dont atttach any warning here, hey man alot of people get jealous because I got a lot of stuff, a ton of stuff MORE stuff than the weeners on DAT-HEADS, so I could give a fuk about what any of them say, I got tons of stuff Im trading for and people groveling everyday for my WHO stuff why DO I GIVE A RATS ASS what some envious weenie on DAT-HEADs has to say about me, who is either fat and stinky or skinny and stinky either way an anti-social stinky jerk that has no life outside of bootlegs, I HAVE A FANTASTIC life outside of bootlegs. My advice is trade ONLY with the fat/skinny, stinky, havent had a date in 15 years DATHEADS that post "warnings" about people, it may behoove you since you decided to bring it to my attention, hey keep trading with them you may finally get a date after 20 years - Thinking You Foolish For Listening to Weeners Bill We'll believe it or not, after he responded to the digest defending himself I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and send him the show on Saturday but the post office was closed. Well, for some reason I was thinking about it this weekend, as if I don't have enough on my mind right now and decided not to trade with him so I wrote this letter this morning. Bill, Because datheads is solely responsible for the collection of incredible music I have today, the fact I trade with the person who recorded the First Union McCartney show and all the coincides that have happened to me in the past few days (starting with your posting for McCartney shows a few days ago) , I'm going to respectfully pass on our trade. In no way do I want to compromise my relationship with the people on datheads for a show, it's as simple as that. The show will come around but not by me. All the best Dean This was his response to my letter: Fine with me several of your "respectful" buddies have offered me copies of your lousy First Union show, Im shipping out like 10 trades today, some of them with other "respectful" DATHEADs and your just a lousy no good cocksucker as you will let the other people on the list do your work for you, trade with me and then get it from them, it doesnt make you any less "responsible" shithead, and we're still talking about illicit recordings here so I guess your a real upstanding citizen anyway, your trade was about as low as on list of priorities as it gets no loss here - Hating Your Two-Faced Stupid Ass Bill Sorry about the long post but I thought you might want to know. Dean -- ------------------------------ From: Ethan Alpert Subject: Looking for info on how to set up audio streaming Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Anyone have any good references on how to set up audio streaming for web servers? Looking for good reference books. Thanks, -ethan ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: re: schoeps edumacation Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:37:04 -0700 it was mk4>kc5>cmc6>vms, my bad on the info file > From: "melissa ." > Subject: schoeps edumacation... > Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 05:52:55 +0000 > > i have a source that says mk4>kc5>vms5u>hhb pdr1000. anyone have the exact > source for the les claypool & trey from mtn. aire? taper was frank rinaldi- > les was >hhb, trey >ad/1000. am i missing the mic bodies on this source? is > the cmc6 the most likely body to use with these mics? i realize that mk4 are > the mic capsules, while the kc5 is the active cable, and the vms5u is the > mic preamp. do i even need the mic bodies with this source? thanks in > advance for the edumacation. ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: Plextor SCSI setup for sale Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:13:07 -0700 wanted to give you dat-heads a shot at this before I hit ebay: Tekram DC390UW scsi card Plex 12-10-32 scsi burner Ultraplex WIDE 40X (faster version of the two 40X readers) works beautifully- get in touch if interested. -Jamie ------------------------------ From: "John R. Vanderpool" Subject: WANTED: soundboard/FM 2002 sam bush, elvin bishop or sonny landreth Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:13:44 -0400 (EDT) sadly i haven't been trading at all in 2002 - brain has been too bruised. but i am jonesin' for any soundboards of the 2002 tours of sam bush, elvin bishop (particularly would love the NOJF w/ trombone shorty but i doubt anybody has that in non-aud unless WWOZ broadcast it) or sonny landreth wouldn't mind a 2000/2001 of elvin either when he toured with little smokey. 2000/2001 would be ok for sonny too, but 2002 only for sam. lots to trade... -- thanx, fish . , . .:/ . ,,///;, ,;/ . o:::::::;;/// >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ ';\ "and its good old country comforts in my bones, just the sweetest sound my ears have ever known; just an old fashioned feeling in my bones, country comforts and the road that's leading home..." ------------------------------ From: pwking Subject: jah wobble / bill laswell 5-14-01 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) hi a small handful of you have asked me for this recording in the last year, only to be told i wasn't able to clone it due to the master having gone missing... well, i found it! :-) sorry for the public announcement, but i couldn't recall exactly who i'd turned down in the past, and now that i'm able to spread this very unique recording, i want to! SO... if you want this , drop me a line and we'll do bizness! Jah Wobble / Bill Laswell 5-14-01 Knitting Factory, NYC dpa4061 > m1 all it takes is a single .shn CD... cheers peter ===== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://home.nyc.rr.com/pedroworld ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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