DAT-heads Digest #402
Contents:
mccartney presale ("Bob Siegl")
oops ("Bob Siegl")
FS: Who tickets Great Woods Fri 7/26 (David Danek)
Why not Digital out CD>digital input>HD? (Clancey)
ISO: Chris Feldott ("Vince Horst")
RE: akg c-3000 recordings.. ("Stanley Willey")
Who here is going to be the next LOMAX? ("Red Eye")
Rush Milwaukee For Trade (Mark)
bit for bit accuracy??? where do i learn more? ("Winnie Olmer")
ISO:TAPER TICKET Phil and Friends-Atl 7/27/02 ("Rory Heller")
SAM BUSH (CCFLAMEWORKS@webtv.net)
Re: akg c-3000 recordings.. (David Carmean)
SPDIF / AES EBU Conversion / 96K ("Studiowiz")
Sony PCM R-500 manual (Keith Bode)
ISO 2002 Telluride Bluegrass Festival DATS ("Roger")
Sheryl Crow tapers ("Thomas Avallone")
FS: TASCAM DA-302 ("Peter Hicks")
Advice for Taping at Bottom Line NYC? (Scott Goodwin)
FS: Sony DTC 60 ES (Keith Bode)
Ian Moore solo acoustic dates added ("Robert Gervais")
Extra DATs ("Anthony Mirabella")
In search of... (Smashmark@aol.com)
From: "Bob Siegl" <kindnation@hotmail.com>
Subject: mccartney presale
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:45:27 +0000
tuesday at 10 am
http://us.f205.mail.yahoo.com/ym/login?.rand=8ilc6oprav4g0
just dont send your tape to bill levyrocks!
get a load of that joker's mail!
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From: "Bob Siegl" <kindnation@hotmail.com>
Subject: oops
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:47:53 +0000
here's the info
i didnt send the right link i think.
i guess this is for the clear channel members?
Paul McCartney Presale Tickets!
Paul McCartney has announced a new series of Fall concert dates, and
SamGoody getAccess is offering presales on many of them.
Unfortunately, McCartney's "Back in the U.S." tour is not stopping in every
getAccess city, but we thought that you might still be interested in the
chance to see one of the most influential pop personalities ever in concert.
M embers have the chance to buy two tickets to any one McCartney concert.
Presales start at 10 AM local time on Tuesday, July 23, for McCartney
concerts in Chicago, Cleveland, Phoenix, Sacramento and San Jose. Presales
will end at noon local time on Friday, July 27.
In new few days, we will be announcing additional presales for concerts in
Boston, Houston and New Orleans. Please check this page frequently to see
when new presales have been announced.
Additional McCartney concerts and presales may be announced at a future
date. Remember, members can only buy two tickets to any one concert.
(McCartney will be playing concerts on his Fall tour co-produced or not
produced by Clear Channel. We won't offer presales on these concerts.)
See all Paul McCartney presales
Chicago
Cleveland
Phoenix
Sacramento
San Jose
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From: David Danek <hobbes4444@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Who tickets Great Woods Fri 7/26
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
A friend has 2 extra singles for the upcoming Who show at Great
Woods. One is Section 2 Row W, dead ctr. The other is Sect 3 Row M,
a few seats in off the center aisle. She is at Freezeout1@aol.com
and she is looking for face but entertaining offers, especially if
the buyer wants both tickets.
Thanks,
Dave
BWT: Two B&P on 90m DAT for Neil Finn 7/19/02 Irving Plaza (AT933
hypercards>D100). DAT only. It's not bad, but not awesome; a little
distant, a little chatty, but a great show!!!
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From: Clancey <supton@erols.com>
Subject: Why not Digital out CD>digital input>HD?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:45:06 -0400
Hey, this is probably a really ignorant question, but I thought I would get
the best input from the list...
In SHN trading it is generally accepted that introducing an EAC step is to
be avoided at almost any cost. Then I thought, why not play the audio CDR
on my CD player and take the optical out and feed it through my U2A into
Cool Edit and slice it down with good old CDWAV? Would this not be
preferable to my ripping from CDR>HD via EAC?
It seems like such an elegantly simple solution that I feel there must be
some reason I can't think of that it isn't in practice. I have a lot of
shows on CDR that I would love to SHN, but hesitate because I don't feel
comfortable doing EAC>SHN.
I have asked this question elsewhere and have gotten responses that all say
I should take the EAC tutorial and I wouldn't need to do the CD player
step, but nobody has said why it isn't kosher to simply convert the shows
treating the CD player the same as when I go DAT>HD. Could someone please
address the CD>HD issue for me?
Hey, send it to me in private if you don't want to clutter up the list.
thanks in advance,
Clancey
From: "Vince Horst" <vincehorst@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Chris Feldott
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:34:28 -0500
Man, this has been a bad week for lost email addresses.
Looking to track down Chris Feldott. A search of archives revealed an email
address from 2000 which is (surprise!) no longer valid. Get a hold of me
ASAP as I am out of town later this week and I want to make sure that you
got my end of the trade.
Thanks,
Vince
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From: "Stanley Willey" <stanley_w1967@msn.com>
Subject: RE: akg c-3000 recordings..
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:37:28 -0700
Greetings DAT heads,
AKG c-3000 are drum mics. They cannot produce any quality recordings unless
they mixed ( via mixer ) with a omni, cardioid or figure eight pattern
microphone.
>>akg c-3000>v2>adc-20>hhb pdr1000>hhb 830> eac> cool edit pro> cdr
I also cannot believe someone would attempt to fix a show that was taped
with these microphones (ie, taking the show from a hhb to eac then editing
in cool edit pro). Get a life. There has to be a hundred better sources out
there.
Furthermore, I hope this doesn't piss some of you guys off by my critique of
the AKGc3000. I just have heard countless recording with these mics from
over the years still have yet to hear anything worth trading.
Peace,
Stan
From: "Red Eye" <redeye532@hotmail.com>
Subject: Who here is going to be the next LOMAX?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:09:22 -0400
To all brother tapers!!
One of the Fathers of Live Taping has past on to the next life...
Who here is following in his footsteps?
May he carry on his passion in the next life,
RED@@
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From: Mark <rusttape@yahoo.com>
Subject: Rush Milwaukee For Trade
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
I recorded Rush at the Marcus Amphitheater
on DAT turned out very nice.
Looking for Roger Waters, Pink Floyd or ?
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From: "Winnie Olmer" <who@sover.net>
Subject: bit for bit accuracy??? where do i learn more?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:32:52 -0400
OK.. it's time for me to delve "deeper" into understanding digital music. I
soon hope to move to laptop recording and get away from high maintenance and
fragile DAT. Is there a good site that explains these concepts? For
example..why does some equipment not simply transfer bit for bit? I thought
a main feature of being digital was the ability to make exact copies. As I
am familiar with in computer files for example. So why does equipment
resample? I was looking at starting of gradually with laptops and have been
checking out the Edirol UA-D1 USB adapter ($99). The thought was I could use
my Denecke AD-20, PS2 and Oktava's with this setup. But I cant "quantify"
how bad it may be to NOT be bit for bit accurate. Does it sound noticeably
bad? What is the issue of this level of inaccuracy? Any info or links to a
good tech site would be appreciated!! One dreams when their D8 is off for
repairs!! :-)
thanks
winnie
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From: "Rory Heller" <rellory2@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO:TAPER TICKET Phil and Friends-Atl 7/27/02
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:32:44 -0400
If you have an extra taper ticket for 7/27/02 Atlanta, I'll take it!
thanks, Rory
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From: CCFLAMEWORKS@webtv.net
Subject: SAM BUSH
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:31:27 -0400 (EDT)
Hey tapers , anyone go to grey fox festival and see sam bush curious if
he played mostly blue grass or did his band play his stuff ?, and if you
taped it i have excellent copy of jamgrass from sun. , would love to
trade grey fox for jamgrass from meadobrook farm on sun , new hampshire
sam was rockin there , thanks chris
From: David Carmean <dlc@halibut.com>
Subject: Re: akg c-3000 recordings..
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:47:51 -0700
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:37:28PM -0700, Stanley Willey wrote:
> in cool edit pro). Get a life. There has to be a hundred better sources out
> there.
>
> Furthermore, I hope this doesn't piss some of you guys off by my critique of
> the AKGc3000. I just have heard countless recording with these mics from
> over the years still have yet to hear anything worth trading.
What pisses me off is all the ad-hominem attacks I see here.
What is it with this crowd????
One week I see "Liar!","No, you're a Liar!", "No I'm not, but you are!".
Before that it was something to the effect of "if somebody's yelling
into your stealth mikes, punch them in the face."
And then people sign those messages with "Peace Out" or similar.
I suspect it's because fundamentally, music is understood emotionally.
I see the same thing on the alt.music Usenet newsgroups. It drives me
nuts.
From: "Studiowiz" <studiowiz@sympatico.ca>
Subject: SPDIF / AES EBU Conversion / 96K
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:55:16 -0500
I recently bought a dbx Quantum processor. Some users on the NET [DAW
users] are telling me to avoid the 96K all together since I will be
ultimately ending up on the DA-40 at 16 bit 48kHz.
QUESTIONS:
a) Out of my DAW I have SPDIF. I was thinking of going into the Quantum
SPDIF and then OUT AES EBU to the Tascam DA-40. Will there be any loss
or alteration of signal during this type of conversion.
b) Will I benefit replacing the AD DA converters of the DA-40 by using
the Quantum in its place? The Quantum has this feature called Type IV
Conversion.
c) Is there alteration of the signal and loss by going from 96Khz 24 bit
down to 48Khz 16 bit.
e) Can anybody that owns the dbx Quantum please get in touch with me so
I can e-mail you more direct questions.
studiowiz@sympatico.ca
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Sony PCM R-500 manual
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 02:20:51 -0700
For all of youwho gave me feedback on the Sony PCM R-500, thanks, I
found one on ebay that has less than 30 hours on it for what I feel is a
very good price. I had heard this is the home deck to own, or one of
the prior PCM models, and this made the most sense to me. The only
short coming is it doesn't have a manual with it. As someone was trying
to sell photocopies of a manual on list earlier this week, and was
chastised for it, I was hoping someone could direct me to a site, or
someone who had one in JPEG, GIF, PDF or another format I coud print out
so I could obtain a copy. I don't know what sony is charging for these,
but if it's reasonable, i'd buy it, if I can't locate one.
Thanks,
Keith
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From: "Roger" <roger@moroney.org>
Subject: ISO 2002 Telluride Bluegrass Festival DATS
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:06:14 -0400
Hi folks,
Looking for some Telluride dats from this year. Would like to have went
myself but that work thing just gets in the way sometimes. Thanks!
roger
http://db.etree.org/biker <-- cdr list
http://db.etree.org/bikersdats <-- dat only list
BWT: SCI 4-19-2002 on DAT, since it is datheads, absolutely free, to the
first two who reply.
From: "Thomas Avallone" <tav2367@msn.com>
Subject: Sheryl Crow tapers
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:26:58 +0000
Has anyone taped Sheryl Crow at the Jeep World Festival ??
Tom
"I've heard there's joy untold
Lays open like a road
In front of me"
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From: "Peter Hicks" <pjhicks01@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: TASCAM DA-302
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:30:47 -0400
hello,
I have a Tascam DA-302 for sale. 30-40 hrs playback one deck one. Never
cloned on this machine. E-mail me if interested.
Peter Hicks
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From: Scott Goodwin <coryphaena_29403@juno.com>
Subject: Advice for Taping at Bottom Line NYC?
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:44:23 -0700
I'm going to The Bottom Line next week - never been there before - and
was wondering what kind of atmosphere I could expect for taping. I'm
assuming stealth and would be running Core CSB > D8. The act is not one
I would expect to even think about people trying to tape her, so mostly
I'm thinking about venue security. Tight? Taper-conscious? Thugs? Are
there metal detectors? Thought police?
Any advice appreciated -
SWG
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: FS: Sony DTC 60 ES
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:11:07 -0700
I would like to sell this deck and give this group a shot t it before I
list it on ebay. I checked with sony last year before sent it to Paul
Plotnik at Pro-Digital where I sent it for a total overhaul.
Pro-Digital went through the deck. Joints were resoldered, tape heads
were realigned, and everything was poured over with a fine tooth comb.
Now the deck has maybe 30 to 40 hours of Playback time and 4 hours of
record time. I have both the Remote control and the owners manual,
bith , bith in good shape. I paid $250 for the Deck and about another
$250 for repairs. I expect to loose some money from what I laid out.
Make an offer if you are intersted.
eithm
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From: "Robert Gervais" <bgervais@texas-city-tx.org>
Subject: Ian Moore solo acoustic dates added
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:47:18 -0500
Texas Guitarist/songwriter Ian Moore has added new shows to the solo
acoustic tour. Additional shows may be added.
Check on Ian's website (www.ianmoore.com) under live shows.
PLEASE HLEP US GET THE WORD OUT!!
Note: Ian may be taping one of more of these shows for a live DVD. In that
case, he will not allow open taping. Otherwise, check with Ian's manager,
Chris Dye, and see if you can get permission. Tell him you've been in touch
with Mikey and Bobby at www.mooremusic.net and will send us a copy!!!
DATES:
8/2/02 Cunningham's Kearney, NE
Cunninghams, 15 West 23rd St Kearney Ne, 69947. 308 236 9737
8/4/02 Mike's lounge Kansas City, MO
Mike's lounge 5424 Troost KC, Mo 64110 816 444 3399
9pm showtime tickets $6
8/5/02 Off Broadway St. Louis, MO
8/7/02 Lounge at Gibson Beale St Memphis, TN
Gibson lounge Beale st 145 Lt. George W. Lee ave Memphis, Tn 38104
901 544 7988 showtime 9pm, tickets $8
And don't forget the shows this week......
7/24/02 Schuba's Chicago, IL
3159 N. Southport ave contact 773-525-2508 tix 12$
7/25/02 7th street entry Minneapolis, MN
7/27/02 The Social Milwuakee, WI
434 south 2nd st contact 414-270-0438 tix 6$
In addition, there are two more shows planned in Texas (pending
contracts)
8/12/02 Cactus Cafe Austin, TX
8/13/02 Mucky Duck Houston, TX
Does this boy ever stop??
Bobby Gervais
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From: "Anthony Mirabella" <s0058943@mail.niagara.edu>
Subject: Extra DATs
Reply-To: <s0058943@mail.niagara.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:59:54 -0400
I'm running low on both blank tapes and cash and so am looking to get rid of some tapes that I've already converted to CD. The following ten tapes (5 on Sony and 5 on Maxell 90m tapes) will go to the first person who commits to sending 10 sealed Sony or Maxell 90m blanks and return postage:
Tool
3/30/97 Torquay, Australia CSB>D7
4/11/97 Sydney, Australia CSC>D8
6/25/97 West Palm Beach, FL CSB>D8
8/10/01 Berkeley, CA KM140>M1
8/11/01 Berkeley, CA KM140>M1
10/15/01 Memphis, TN CSB>M1
10/16/01 Nashville, TN CSB>M1
Grateful Dead
9/22/91 Boston, MA SBD
Oysterhead
11/9/01 Utica, NY CMC6/MK21>Sonosax>AD2K
Blood Sweat and Tears
5/30/02 Buffalo, NY AT853>D7
From: Smashmark@aol.com
Subject: In search of...
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:27:53 -0400
With all the tours going on this summer, im looking for recent shows by the following diverse bunch of groups:
Korn
Bowie
Incubus
Elvis Costello (have a bunch)
Heart
Winger/Cinderella
Richard Thompson (Joes Pub - have one, need others)
Yes
Rush
Lucinda Williams (specifically summerstage)
Beachwood Sparks
the Shins
Neil Finn
Camper Van Beethoven
The Who
A Walk Down Abbey Road
Sonic Youth
Hagar/DLR
Pete Yorn
The Vines
As always lots to offer
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