DAT-heads Digest #410, Volume #6 Mon, 29 Jul 02 16:50:01 EDT Contents: ISO: Lauryn Hill, Fugees, Wyclef Jean (pwking) ISO: Yes 2002 set info ("Jeff Franzreb") ISO: CSNY Cleveland 2/25/02 ("Jeff Franzreb") Trade: 2 second night alpine for 2 first night (jopeter1) RE: Stopping Clicking During DAT Transfers...WITH A Za2 card ("Slipkid") FS: SEAGATE AUDIO DAT DRIVE FREE SHIPPING $75 (Eric Eckberg) Clipping (Cool Edit Pro Help) (Mathias Rombach) venue info (=?iso-8859-1?q?alberto=20agostini?=) Dolby "Curves" (Klay Anderson) John Entwhistle tribute 7/27 ? (Stefan Cooke) FUJI ROCK FESTIVAL 2002 ("Satsuki Tomono") Items for Sale. (Mtn Green) need audiophile 2496 help... (Icculus17@aol.com) ISO: The Carpetbaggers 1996? Lounge Axe, Chicago or OTHER! (JH) Phish DATs for a newbie/oldbie ('88-'94) ("Robert Garland") 2 Channel SBD<-->AUD recording. Suggestions? (JH) Sony SDT9000 (mrdata1968@yahoo.com) The future of sound? ("Robert Garland") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwking Subject: ISO: Lauryn Hill, Fugees, Wyclef Jean Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT) hi, if you've got any live material by any Refugee Camp artists (fugees, lauryn hill, wyclef, pras) I'd love to arrange a trade with you! I've only got 2-14-99 and some assorted BBC performances, but I'd really like to find entire sets if they exist! My list is available at the URL in my sig. Drop me a line if you've got anything. peter ===== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ web: http://home.nyc.rr.com/pedroworld AIM: sleepypedro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Franzreb" Subject: ISO: Yes 2002 set info Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:04:38 -0400 I hope to have sent this early enough, but can someone tell me about Yes' set. Basically I am interested in the length of the show. Typically I pack 2 hour tapes but want to make sure that if I do I'll have enough time to switch tapes. Also, does anyone open? If so, who? Thanks, Jeff "Music... This is the Favorite Passion of My Soul" (Thomas Jefferson) ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Franzreb" Subject: ISO: CSNY Cleveland 2/25/02 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:05:14 -0400 I was wondering if anyone had taped this night's event. I have a partial of the show but haven't been able to locate a full copy of it. Thanks Jeff "Music... This is the Favorite Passion of My Soul" (Thomas Jefferson) ------------------------------ From: jopeter1 Subject: Trade: 2 second night alpine for 2 first night Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:22:38 -0400 Subject says all...please get in contact asap so we can trade these. These are lawn tickets. Trade only. Thanks, John Peters ------------------------------ From: "Slipkid" Subject: RE: Stopping Clicking During DAT Transfers...WITH A Za2 card Reply-To: "Slipkid" Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:57:23 -0400 RT wrote (in response to detailed note from Tim): >I actually spent quite a bit of time on the phone with Greg Hanssen a few >years back trying to figure this out. It is actually a lot easier than all >the stuff you posted. Turn off auto-insert notification on your CD and DVD >drives. When the computer goes to check the drives it ties up the DMA for >too long and causes these problems. i guess that could be *one* potential problem with getting a Zefiro Acoustic ZA2 card to coexist nicely in a PC; i'm glad RT solved his problem so easily :) sorry for this long post but i need to try to explain this to Za2 users so as not to give anyone the wrong impression about how EZ or difficult it may be getting a Za2 to behave in your PC you (the reader of this note) may or may not have difficulties getting a Za2 to work well in your own PC, and although the difficulties may be solveable by simply following RT's advice above, you may instead find that alot of work on your part may be needed to figure out the problems (like Tim), or you may exhaust your options and find the card just will not work correctly for you (like me) after mucho time & research on my part & tinkering etc i gave up on getting it to work right in my PC; i believe in the end it just didn't like my video card or *something that i could NOT figure out* after a bunch of config debugging/work i was able to get around all the buffer overrun errors (thanks to greg hanssen & the Za2 discussion group), but nothing solved the most dreaded channel swapping problems that i only discovered by chance (& a discerning ear) there used to be a ZA2 discussion group solely devoted to debugging/figuring out how to get it to work right - my point being, it is not as simple as what RT posted above...there are many complex things you *may* have to do to get it to work solidly i gave up & replaced my Za2 with an EGOSYSWAVETERMINAL2496...works smooth as silk....i found that there were just too many PC issues with using an ISA based card like the Za2, in my particular PC...that is not to say that there is anything bad about the Za2 card...it is just that it CAN be one hell of a monster-sized problem to get it to work right in some PCs also for tim - and RT - and any Za2 users - i recommend strongly that you do some serious checking to be *sure* that the Za2 is NOT channel swapping....after transferring several DATs to my hard drive with *no errors* & thinking the card was working well (after i fixed the buffer overrun problems with a bunch of config steps like tim discussed), i discovered to my horror that something wierd was up with my transfers :-( while listening to a show that had very distinctive stereo channel seperation, i noticed that at certain times the musician on the left side was coming out the right channel and vice-a-versa...at first i thought i was going crazy...then i thought there must be something wrong with my tape...then i went back & listened to the tape & discovered that the switchover was NOT on the tape....then i researched horror stories on the Za2 forum and learned about "channel swapping" then i did a simple test.....and about 50% of the time i had "channel swapping"...try this: - feed your Za2 input that ONLY has one channel, either right or left - let it soak that up for awhile - examine the waveform in an editor like cooledit2k & MAKE SURE that the sound is ONLY on the proper channel - if you see it "switch" from side to side, you have a channel swapping problem (& one hell of a problem to debug) - to be as safe as possible try the test multiple times under different conditions..if everything is ok breath a sigh of relief if you see channel swapping, try reading through all of the posts at http://www.hollister.nu/david/za2 and you may learn enough from the archives to pinpoint & solve your problems..or search the net, there may be other forums out there for Za2 users that can help all the best, - jon - ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: FS: SEAGATE AUDIO DAT DRIVE FREE SHIPPING $75 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 00:00:19 -0700 (PDT) SEAGATE DAT TAPE DRIVE WITH AUDIO SUPPORT: CTD8000H-S/CTD8000R-S This Peregrine series DAT drive has 4GB native capacity with 120m tapes and 8GB hardware compressed capacity. SCSI interface. This drive supports both data and DAT audio and can read/write audio at 2.2x with special software for the PC, e.g. vdat or dat2wav. SCSI inquiry string reports "ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX 5AC". The drive is used, but has been tested: works fine! No rails, just drive and 5.25" faceplate. I take PAYPAL, MO, or check. Insurance is optional at $2.00. email shmurg@yahoo.com with any questions... Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Mathias Rombach Subject: Clipping (Cool Edit Pro Help) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:58:20 +0200 Hello Chris, > Just wondering if anyone here knew how to remove the "clipping" noise from a > waveform. As I know there is no way to do that. The clipping is in the "original signal" you got from the soundboard, I guess you didn´t set the levels on your recorder too high. The amplifiers in the soundboard were at the maximum level and clipped the signal, all above the clipping limit is lost and can´t be restored. And normalizing the level to -12 dB in Cool Edit also brings no fun, you can set the level even to 0 dB and you have the clipping from the show. You can do a certain filtering with the signal. Try to "kill" some higher frequencies, let´s say above 8-10 kHz, because the clipping noise -or call it "crackling"- consist of higher frequencies. That should give you a little, but not much. Correct me anybody when wrong about that please. Mathias ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?q?alberto=20agostini?= Subject: venue info Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:22:33 +0200 (CEST) Hi all, I need info about Continental Airlines Arena, New Jersey...venue security, metal detector, best taping spots, etc. I would appreciate any information. Thanks, Alberto. ______________________________________________________________________ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novità. http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: Dolby "Curves" Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:03:36 -0600 mrdata1968@yahoo.com Subject: Playback EQ curves of dolby B&C. Asked: > I would like to know the playback EQ curves of dolby B&C. I'm using it in my > P.C. editor. > Dolby NR does not work on specific "curves" as in so-many-db-down-at-x-frequency. It is an encode-decode, amplitude- and frequency-based system using the principle of least treatment. You might want to study the information at: http://www.dolby.com/cassette/bcsnr/ Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: Stefan Cooke Subject: John Entwhistle tribute 7/27 ? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:06:13 +0000 (UTC) A longshot for sure, but did anyone tape the John Entwistle tribute last weekend at the Linwood in Boston? My once-trusty D8 let me down. Loads to trade. Thanks, Stefan ------------------------------ From: "Satsuki Tomono" Subject: FUJI ROCK FESTIVAL 2002 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:02:40 +0900 I taped FUJI ROCKFESTIVAL 2002 Jane's Addiction 02.07.29 Naeba,Niigata,Japan 72/DAUD/SANKEN.COS-11>SONY PCM-M1/DM/EX Red Hot Chilli Peppres special guest- Gorge Clinton!! 02.07.29 Naeba,Niigata,Japan 85/DAUD/SANKEN.COS-11>SONY PCM-M1/DM/EX I'm looking for a copy of THE WHO2002 USA TOUR,Neil Young ,Robert Plant,Sheryl Crow,Oasis,Red Hot Chilli Pepper etc....... in 2002 tour.I'll accpt Radoi & TV broadcast aircheck recrding. Sorry, no time for B&P right now. Look forward to hearing from you. Peace Satsuki ------------------------------ From: Mtn Green Subject: Items for Sale. Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:04:26 -0700 (PDT) FS: Zefiro Inbox & Denecke PS-2. The Inbox (or denecke AD-20) is a portable 2 channel mic preamp and a>d converter that runs off a 9v battery. This unit comes with the core-soundmodification...a mini xlr coax output with two xlr to 7-pin cables...Retail price is $310...I purchased this offanother fellow dat-head approx 1.5 years ago. It is in like new condition a side from a couple exterior scratches. You can read more about it at: http://www.denecke.com/prod04.htm The PS-2 is a portable 48v phantom power supply that runs off a single 9v battery. The unit is approximately 8 months old and is in like-new condition. It retails for $150. You can read more about it at: http://www.denecke.com/prod04.htm Also included is an 8 D-cell battery pack that will run both units for more than 40 hours. I would like to sell both units together for $350 or make a _reasonable_offer. I am willing to separate only if both can be sold soon. reason for selling: I am upgrading. ALSO:Sony WM-D6C - $200/bo (MSRP - $499)Portable 2 Channel Professional analog tape deckwith 1/8" input/output, selectable tape bias,speed control, headphone, mic in(0dB and -20dB).Bought new in 98 used only for live recording.Complete factory service in march of 2000 to restore factory specs, hasn't been used since. ===== __________________________________________________________ Hearing is one of the body's five senses. But listening is an art.- Frank Tyger __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Icculus17@aol.com Subject: need audiophile 2496 help... Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:10:24 EDT Ever since i got this card I haven't been able to record from my computer into my D8. I have no problems running a spdif input , but can't get a spdif output. My moniter mixer says it is playing out, but i get No Input on my deck. does it matter that I am using a passive 7pin? and help or ideas are greatly appreciated. I'll even offer up a clone of Vida Blue 7/21/02, Schoeps MK41>M222>NT222> DA-P1@48>audiophile 2496 > samplitude @44.1 (mics set "din" 90degrees 17cm spacing) taped by David Bigham. p.s. i can only clone after I get this to work ------------------------------ From: JH Subject: ISO: The Carpetbaggers 1996? Lounge Axe, Chicago or OTHER! Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:38:15 -0500 Howdy, I remember seeing two Carpetbagger shows on a guy's list a few months back, or a couple years. Anyway, does anybody have these shows from Lounge Axe (if memory serves me right) or any other material by this band? I have a couple rare DSBD/DAUD recordings by them at the Charlie Louvin event and a couple years later at the Ralph Stanley event in St. Paul. Drop me a line, thousands of hours to trade, etc. Jonathan ------------------------------ From: "Robert Garland" Subject: Phish DATs for a newbie/oldbie ('88-'94) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:05:44 -0400 (Sorry for the x-post) I no longer need the following 10 DATs: 9/8/88 The Front - Burlington, VT 1x60m all SBD>cass0>DAT 12/1/89 The Paradise - Boston, MA 1x90m all sbd>cass1>DAT (fillers: 4/9/93 soundcheck, 5/1/93 soundcheck, 8-24-93 soundcheck) 11/1/91 Gothic Theater, Denver, CO 1x60m I DSBD 2/20/93 Roxy Theater - Atlanta, GA 1x90m all DSBD 5/1/93 Tower Theater - Upper Darby, PA 1x60m II Schoeps CMC5/Mk4 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Sony D10 Pro II 5/2/93 Tower Theater - Upper Darby, PA 1x90m all Schoeps CMC5/Mk4 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Sony D10 Pro II 5/3/93 State Theater - New Brunswick, NJ 1x90m all Schoeps CMC5/Mk4 >Sonosax SX-M2 > Sony D10 Pro II 8/20/93 Red Rocks Amphitheater - Morrison, CO 1x90m all DSBD>Cass0>DAT 12/30/93 Cumberland Cty Civic Center - Portland, ME 1x90m all DSBD>cass>DAT 10/29/94 Memorial Auditorium - Spartanburg, SC 1x90m I DSBD>cass0>DAT There are 10 tapes total. Most are on KAO Gold media, and there are also a couple of Sony and Maxells in there. They are all error free to the best of my knowledge. I want $3 per DAT plus 1/2 of the shipping ($2) for a total of $32. As always when I liquidate DATs I will only accept payment by Paypal. E-mail me if you're interested and I will send you a payment request. First person to send the funds gets the tapes. I will ship immediately. Please do not e-mail if a) you cannot pay with Paypal or you do not have the funds in your account, b) you cannot conclude the purchase asap. I hope to hear from one of the guys who I've sold some of my old DATs to in the past, things went very smoothly and it would be a pleasure to deal with you again! - Rob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: JH Subject: 2 Channel SBD<-->AUD recording. Suggestions? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:00:59 -0500 Hello, I just recorded a bluegrass festival for the fourth year running, down in Strawberry Point, IA. Some good groups played. Anyway, my masters in the past were simply two channels mono, both the same, straight off the old Peavy soundboard's MAIN B output. This was a nice source and always gave me a good tape, but this year I put the SBD into the right channel, and one of my Sanken COS-11 mics into the other channel, immediately in front of the soundboard postion, about 35 feet from the stage. Listening back to the masters, I can make a pretty good mix using the pan control, just bringing in a touch of the audience to give the SBD spaciousness, but not enough to make it sound like outerspace delay-land. I'm going to commit a 'mix' of these masters to DAT, keeping a .shn mix of the SBD-R/AUD-L for future mixing. Of course, a 3 channel DAT would have been perfect for this project, then I'd simply pan the SBD to the center, and the two audience channels at 3 and 0 o'clock, maybe time delaying the center channel to align it with the two audience mics. What can I do with these two simultaneous recordings to make a cool quasi-stereo recording? I'm visualizing maybe making a second channel of audience by comb-filtering adding a few ms of delay, the panning that hard left, panning the original audience hard right, then putting the SBD in the center. What would YOU do with these two channels of material from this show? Jonathan ------------------------------ From: mrdata1968@yahoo.com Subject: Sony SDT9000 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:13:34 +0200 Hello, I want to buy a Sony SDT9000 DAT drive. Is this device capable to read and write DAT audio tapes? Thanks in advance, Arnold. ------------------------------ From: "Robert Garland" Subject: The future of sound? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:48:14 -0400 “Are you ready?” he asks, then points his invention directly at the head of someone who’s just entered the room 10 feet away. “Now, can you hear it? Can you hear it? Isn’t that unbelievable?” What the person across the room hears is, well, unbelievable: all of a sudden, the sound of a waterfall has materialized in his head. And, it turns out, no one else in the room can hear it but him. http://www.msnbc.com/news/786016.asp _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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