DAT-heads Digest #425, Volume #6 Fri, 9 Aug 02 17:50:00 EDT Contents: FS: 90 drawer card catalog (perfect for dats) (Baydat List User) Dats for blank dats...... (WAREAGLEBART@aol.com) Overloading mic pre-amp on a D8 (Philip Smoker) Rush, Beck, taping, etc... ("Erik Heath") recording of Sept 11 NYC ("Hance, Bill") Re: jorma and taping (Keith Bode) The RIAA's opinion is not the LAW ("Kenneth Thomas") FT: lucy kaplansky (mike hooker) ISO Beck 8/6/02 Denver (Dave) Archives (Matthew Thayer) Re: taping at the Detroit State Theater (Darren) RE: Dictators / Celibate Rifles (rjmacready) ISO Be Good Tanyas ("Simon Shepherd") Retailer for Canare or Mogami cables? ("Adams, Mark A.") re: Tobin family saga ("Vikas Bhatia") Stones - Roseland for Tower (Andrew Goldstein) Fwd: where (michael ryan) where ("Michael Ryan") Re: illegal stealthing On Civil Disobedience ("Chris And Berryman") TO ALL DAT TAPERS HELP!! ("Axl 2076") SGI DAT DRIVES W/ RAILS $75 ("datman") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Baydat List User Subject: FS: 90 drawer card catalog (perfect for dats) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) For Sale: Library Card Catalog (solid wood) with 90 drawers This is in the Berkeley area of the East Bay. It holds lots of DATs. I can take a couple of digi pictures if you're interested. It's in nice shape. The top can come off which has 30 drawers in it. Each drawer can hold at least 25+ dats. You will need some kind of truck to move, it's heavy! ------------------------------ From: WAREAGLEBART@aol.com Subject: Dats for blank dats...... Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:23:14 EDT I got some shows that are no longer "in my rotation" and i'd be happy to swap for unwrapped blanks of sony or maxell , 60 or 90 m . I believe there is a total of 12. I'm on the road right now but i'll be home in a week to be able to mail these out. I'd like them all to go to the same home , they love eachother. Phish 6 6 96 woodstock, ny-2- disco biscuits GOTV 01-1 Scofield/Hornsby GOTV 01- both sets on one dat, not a set together-1 Tom Tom Club/Blue Floyd GOTV O1-1 MOE 12 30 97 san francisco, ca, -no encore-1 SCI 7 19 01- central park show with robert randolph, not sure of the date-2 Les Claypools Flying Frog brigade GOTV 01-1 ( a couple dropouts) Jacob fred Jazz oddesy GOTV 01-1-sbd MOE 10 31 00-2 peace and pork skins bart ------------------------------ From: Philip Smoker Subject: Overloading mic pre-amp on a D8 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Hi, all. A question for those of you who know the Sony D8: Last night I taped Sonic Youth with Core Sound Binaural mics with bass roll-off filter into the mic-in on a D8. I kept the input peaking near -6dB & -4db for the entire set and checked the levels frequently during the show. When I played the tape this morning, I can hear some of the bass distorting (or clipping?) when the volume increases. I called Len, and he was able to tell me that if you keep the volume under 4 while running into the mic-in on a D8, you are overloading the mic pre-amp. Also, he mentioned that using line-in effectively negates the bass roll-off filter altogether (which is what I did when I taped Queens of the Stone Age in June, and I didn't have any bass distortion, but I did notice the sound was boomy). Sorry if that's old news to some of you, but my question is this: How can I attempt to repair that distorted bass sound in Cool Edit Pro? It's not prevalent through every minute of the tape, but when things start heating up, the distorted sound is there. Please e-mail me off-list with any suggestions you may have. Unfortunately, I can't do a BWT or B&P right now, but I'd love to be able to offer this show up if I can fix the problem mentioned above, as the clear moments sound very nice indeed. Thanks, *phiL* |-------------------------| | http://www.noize.org/ | |-------------------------| __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ From: "Erik Heath" Subject: Rush, Beck, taping, etc... Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 17:45:09 +0000 A few different topics... I'll be taping Beck this sunday. What is his stance on taping? How long have his sets been? And I'll be taping from the balcony in a small theater. I'm taping Rush the next night. What is their stance on taping? And I'll be doing this one from the lawn, any suggestions there? All info is welcomed! Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Hance, Bill" Subject: recording of Sept 11 NYC Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:01:12 -0400 There was discussion back in September, of whether any audio recordings existed or were made when the hijacked planes crashed into the WTC and Pentagon. We've obviously all seen the video recordings. Apparently there was: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/07/sept.11.tape/index.html ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Re: jorma and taping Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:53:48 -0700 While I agree that what you say about Bonnie Raitt is true, and personally Jorma probably feels the same way, comparing Jorma to Bonnie Raitt s not quite the same. BTW, I am going to see Bonnie Raitt this September at the Greek Theater in LA, and I have a front row seat right in front of the sound system, I am disabled, and they have front row disabled seats. Bonnie goes on tour and fills venues holding upwards of 15,000, and has concistently for the last 13 years or so. Jorma is playing to venues of 150 to 1,000 capacity, Bonnie has won Grammy's, and a whole pile of them about 10 years ago. Jorma got inducted to the R+R Hall of Fame for work he did 35 years ago. They ain't in the same boat. Everyting Bonnie records, ships Platinum, I don't think anything Jorma has released has ever sold platinum. All I am saying is give the guy every break he can have, regardless of his own feelings. I think to a large extent Jorma is not to happy about allowing open taping for so long, now has a contract that forbids it, so he personally is for the people who have supported him for all these years. However, I feel to support him with his contract with Columbia is the best thing we can do for this great man, and put our wants aside. Along with Bonnie Raitt, it seems every show Clapton plays, wind up as a SBD Bootleg. Seems like some money is changing hands under the table. That's another story. Keith -- Please check out http://www.wotwild.com for some great animal art and wall decorations. ------------------------------ From: "Kenneth Thomas" Subject: The RIAA's opinion is not the LAW Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:10:47 -0500 >>From: jgreen11 >>Subject: Re: stealthing >>Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:41:25 -0400 >> >>>> "Can you point me to any legal document or existing law, >>>> which explicitly says that the act of recording is a crime? " >> >>from www.riaa.org >> >>"The Federal Anti-Bootleg Statute {18 USC 2319A} prohibits the unauthorized >>recording, manufacture, distribution, or trafficking in sound recordings or >>videos of artists' live musical performances. Violators can be punished with >>up to 5 years in prison and $250,000 in fines. " Actually, that is the RIAA's OPINION of the Federal Law. The real statute is: ---BEGIN § 2319A. Unauthorized Fixation of and Trafficking in Sound Recordings and Music Videos of Live Musical Performances (a) Offense.--Whoever, without the consent of the performer or performers involved, knowingly and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain-- (1) fixes the sounds or sounds and images of a live musical performance in a copy or phonorecord, or reproduces copies or phonorecords of such a performance from an unauthorized fixation; (2) transmits or otherwise communicates to the public the sounds or sounds and images of a live musical performance; or (3) distributes or offers to distribute, sells or offers to sell, rents or offers to rent, or traffics in any copy or phonorecord fixed as described in paragraph (1), regardless of whether the fixations occurred in the United States; ---END Pleaes note (a) which says "for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain". Funny how the RIAA left that part out! http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/18usc2319A.htm Thanks, Kenneth http://www.sunsquashed.com ------------------------------ From: mike hooker Subject: FT: lucy kaplansky Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:16:01 -0400 hi, i taped lucy kaplansky last nite in huntington NY last nite. if interested, drop me a line. please see my music trading page: New URL http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html being its AOL, its not always up. try it a few times, or ask me for a text list. thanks have fun, mike hooker ------------------------------ From: Dave Subject: ISO Beck 8/6/02 Denver Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:13:56 -0400 While on vacation, my wife and I attempted to go to Beck's show at the Temple Event Center, but we got stuck in a MASSIVE traffic jam and didn't make it. I'm hoping someone taped the show and would be willing to set up a trade. I have a large list of goodies on CD-R. Thanks, dave ------------------------------ From: Matthew Thayer Subject: Archives Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) We are the first generation to record our live music in mass... we are historians.... our collections will a cherished document of musical history in the future, seriously! So who cares if it is illegal or not.... really... We are the Alan Lomax's of the 21st century... spin on !! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ From: Darren Subject: Re: taping at the Detroit State Theater Reply-To: dnemeth01@sprynet.com Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:47:12 -0400 > has anyone on here recently taped at the state? i'm wondering what the door procedure is. Hello, I taped there once and have been back as a non-taper twice this year. Here is the procedure. You get in line. When the line commences to move and you get to the outer doors they tell you "men go in this door and women in the other." This is due to the searches. You get a total pat down. Not 100% thorough, however. Sometimes wands but if you have your gear in your crotch in front of the zipper and belt buckle no problem. Before they wand you ask them where the toilets are and that you have to go really bad. They may quickly wand you and you'll be on your way. Works for me. Get past the pat down and you are home free. The venue is a converted movie palace. The balcony is still intact but the main floor auditorium is a bar /dance floor type of design. The rear 2/3 of the auditorium is bar / table seating and the rest down front is mosh pit territory (fun spot) unless they put folding chairs down there (only for assigned seatig shows). You best bet is to tape from the balcony at the very edge. You are less likely to get caught there. However, if you are with friends you may want to get a seat at the main floor and have them sit on either side of you. As far as I know all the shows at the State have been general admission unless staed other wise. You get to pick your seat at most of them. I taped Robert Plant there last year and it turned out fine. However, it was assigned seating. I was in the 6th row. Saw Rob Zombie and Garbage there this year at the barricades. General admission. The State Theater is one of the most fun venues that I have ever been to. The sound is also not too loud due to the size of the venue. Hope this helps. Have a nice day, :) Darren Nemeth dnemeth01@sprynet.com Owner of "Giant Squid Audio Lab" - Specialists in durable, high fidelity Binaural / Stereo and Mono miniature microphones for discriminating DAT and Mini Disc recording enthusiasts. http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/ ------------------------------ From: rjmacready Subject: RE: Dictators / Celibate Rifles Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:57:47 -0400 Hello, The Dictators and Celibate Rifles are doing 3 shows in Australia. The dates are 8-17 in Melbourne, 8-22 in Manly and 8-23 in Sydney. What the hey, it never hurts to ask... Chet ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shepherd" Subject: ISO Be Good Tanyas Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:12:59 +0100 Hi all Am looking for anything by the BGTs, especially from their recent UK tour or the Johnny Walker show on BBC R2 in March...can anyone help? Please reply off-list. Thanks in advance Simon τΏτ ------------------------------ From: "Adams, Mark A." Subject: Retailer for Canare or Mogami cables? Reply-To: "me@home" Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:10:00 -0400 I need to get a good 3.5mm stereo mini jack Y to RCA males, any help would be greatly appreciated ... Mark ------------------------------ From: "Vikas Bhatia" Subject: re: Tobin family saga Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:29:48 -0500 quickly, i must say that all my experiences in dealing w/ austin have been pleasant. although i have never dealt w/ his father, i've traded w/ austin several times over the last few yrs, along with attending shows with him and taping. he's always come through on his end, and even some times without asking for anything in return. i truly believe that he had no knowledge of what his father had been doing while he was away. he brought the subject to my attention prior to scott's post, and the case he made to me left no doubt in my mind that he was innocent. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ From: Andrew Goldstein Subject: Stones - Roseland for Tower Reply-To: Andrew.Goldstein@morganstanley.com Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:53:52 -0400 Anybody want to trade me for stones tickets: I have 1 Roseland ticket in exchange for a ticket to the Tower Theatre Stones show in Philly. I am not looking to sell or trade for any other shows. Please contact me offlist ------------------------------ From: michael ryan Subject: Fwd: where Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:59:48 -0700 (PDT) --0-1144244072-1028926788=:74714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline This was meant to go with my note... I think this pic says it all. It is titled "Fire? What Fire? Where?" Peace, Michael Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --0-1144244072-1028926788=:74714 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: luv2brew@yahoo.com via -40.-120.-32.123; 09 Aug 2002 13:54:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 1: 100 ------------------------------ From: "Michael Ryan" Subject: where Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:52:45 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. =======_NextPart_000_000A_01C23FAC.09C49C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://165.221.52.2/fire2001/bennett/photos/sour-biscuit/where.jpg =======_NextPart_000_000A_01C23FAC.09C49C40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="where.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="where.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://165.221.52.2/fire2001/bennett/photos/sour-biscuit/where.jpg [InternetShortcut] URL=http://165.221.52.2/fire2001/bennett/photos/sour-biscuit/where.jpg Modified=C08EF4A9E63FC201D3 =======_NextPart_000_000A_01C23FAC.09C49C40== --0-1144244072-1028926788=:74714-- ------------------------------ From: "Chris And Berryman" Subject: Re: illegal stealthing On Civil Disobedience Reply-To: Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:12:36 -0400 ---O.K. stealthing might be illgeal .... "However, the government does not concern me much, and I shall bestow the fewest possible thoughts on it. It is not many moments that I live under a government, even in this world. If a man is thought-free, fancy-free, imagination-free, that which is not never for a long time appearing to be to him, unwise rulers or reformers cannot fatally interrupt him. " Henry David Thoreau ------------------------------ From: "Axl 2076" Subject: TO ALL DAT TAPERS HELP!! Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 17:39:37 -0400 Hello Everyone, I have a question for everyone who tapes Live shows using DAT. I have a Sony TCD-D100 and a lot of you are probably going to write me and tell me I've been doing it all wrong, but I've been stuck into using the 32K (Long play / 4 hours of tape on a 120min) when recording because I don't know if the concert is going to last over 2 hours and I don't feel comfortable with having to switch tapes during a show and possibly missing one of my favorite songs. Many of you probably want to know if I plan to just keep these as DATs, well, probably not, eventually they will be transferred to CDR, but you guessed it, only after I get one of those Marantz Professional CD Recorders that will allow Sample Rate Conversion and No SCMS copy protection. I'm not interested in using my computer to transfer DATs to CDR. I'd probably have to buy a whole new computer anyway to do this since the one I have now is a bit outdated. I'm just going to stick with Home Audio CD recorders and DAT decks for now. Like I said, many of you are probably going to criticize me for using the slower speed instead of 44.1K or 48K, But I'd like to hear any suggestions some of you may have. What do you guys out there do when your not sure as too how long a show might be?? Do you risk it and just be ready to switch tapes anytime you can?? Or are there more of you out there than I think who also use 32K just so you don't have to risk switching the tape in the middle of the show and losing a song because you had to switch tapes? And what do some of you do if you know for sure that a show is going to last over 2 hours? Thanks Everyone! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "datman" Subject: SGI DAT DRIVES W/ RAILS $75 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:55:51 -0500 SGI DAT DRIVE WITH AUDIO SUPPORT CTD8000H-S 3.5" form factor drive with rails and 5.25" bezel (i.e., CTD8000R-S) This Peregrine series DAT drive has 4GB native capacity with 120m tapes and 8GB hardware compressed capacity. SCSI interface. This drive supports both data and DAT audio and can read/write audio at 2.2x with special software for the PC, e.g. vdat or dat2wav. SCSI inquiry string reports "ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX 5AC". 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