DAT-heads Digest #447
Contents:
NYC Tapers - Summer Stage (Matthew Thayer)
stones tickets... alternative to getting ripped off... (Matthew Thayer)
ISO: The Who (Chicago) and Melissa Etheridge info... (Richard Hammond)
homemade 7-pin connector (Eric Angel)
SONY PCM-R500 manuals and other parts avail at partsearchdirect.com ("skomp")
Yes 8/15/02 -alt. source for trade (John Brinkley)
Re: Dat to CD problem.... ("MattB")
FS: Broken Apogee AD-1000 (Brian Nichols)
re: yoko ono ("Bob Siegl")
DAT recorder (Reto Wieduwilt)
RE: Dat to CD problem.... ("jimkun")
Lemo-Sax (Scott/ Debra McPherrin)
ISO "Dean" and TOO Alpine Valley trade ("cream of mushroom")
Re: stones fan club and ticket price whine (Todd Bainbridge)
Audio Capable DAT Drives - $80 shipped (audiocapable@earthlink.net)
90 & 99 minute cdr ? (Michel Pacifici)
re: trading tickets and membership fees (george wang)
a couple of ISO's (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Spie=DF?=)
ISO: Bluegrass DAT for BnP (w/ WOB) ("Holland, John")
From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: NYC Tapers - Summer Stage
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT)
Anyone taping or have taped, especially looking for:
Wadada Leo Smith's Golden Quartet featuring all-star
jazz drummer Jack DeJohnette and bassist Malachi
Favors.
Super Rail Band
Sonic Youth
The Avalanches
email me for list, lots to trade.
cheers, matt
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From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: stones tickets... alternative to getting ripped off...
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
or you can usher the show, get in for free, be right
up front, no hassle, show a few people to their seat
then disappear into crowd at the front of the
stage... security rarely hassle one of their own if
you're friendly and discreet..
call your local promoter, in the bay area BGP in
SF.... see you at pac bell...
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From: Richard Hammond <rlhammon@netscape.net>
Subject: ISO: The Who (Chicago) and Melissa Etheridge info...
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:28:58 -0500
Hey all...
First:
I know the Who are releasing this last leg of the tour (wondering if
that means the Chicago House of Blues show to) on CD. In fact, I've
already ordered mine for the Chicago show yesterday.
I taped the show.. but had some problems near the end. Little did I
know that the Who were going to run SO long.. and I ended up switching
over to 32kHz (better than no tape in my opinion) for the remainder of
the tape... which ended like 2 mins. before The Who did!
For some reason the 32kHz portion is just filled with diginoise (which
doesn't make sense to me).. the rest of the tape is fine. Anyone run a
rig at this show? I was using DPA 4060's (w/ high boost caps) to a Sony
M1... Would love to get ahold of another audience copy...
I did tape Robert Plant as well... it's been put to my computer via
DAT2WAV.. but I haven't listened to it yet.
Second:
A friend of mine just uncovered a box of old cassette masters from FM
b'casts... along with some reel to reel stuff. We started sorting
through and I found a Melissa Etheridge show I'm looking for information
on. It was b'cast on the radio from a venue in Columbus. She states a
few times that it's her first time in Columbus.. and after the second
song her stage monitors start to blow up (which she talks about prior to
the 3rd song). I'm not familiar with most of her works, and have no
clue on venue / date / setlist information. All I know is it should be
around the early 90's as that's when this guy lived in Columbus. Any
help would be appreciated.. and a CD-R copy could be sent too.
Thanks,
Rich
From: Eric Angel <ejangel@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: homemade 7-pin connector
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:36:12 -0700
Here's my situation. I use a Sony 7-pin to optical I/O for field recording
(with a Denecke AD-20), but I have a Delta 1010 sound card that only takes
coax SPIDF. I'm cheap and I don't want to buy a 7-pin to coax cable just for
the occasional DAT>CD transfer, so I want to make my own. From the Sony
D7/D8 Resource Guide webpage I know what 2 pins I need for digi-out.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can use to stick into the 7-pin
female connector on my D8? I don't want to haphazardly stick things in and
see what happens!
Also, do the Delta (Midiman) soundcards accept Sony's voltage levels at the
coax input? I use to have an Oade active cable, and that worked with the
Delta 1010, but doesn't that cable convert Sony voltage levels to standard
SPIDF?
Thanks,
Eric
From: "skomp" <skomp@skomp.net>
Subject: SONY PCM-R500 manuals and other parts avail at partsearchdirect.com
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:04:28 -0500
you probably know the situation....
You buy a used PCM-R500, R300 or D8 Sony DAT and it doesn't have the manual
and you're on the hunt.
Did the same thing myself recently, still finding nothing out there on the
web and my last resort was to sift thru 100's of DAT Head posts and see if
anyone had it posted yet, we all see the ISO's for it every now and then.
Found a ton of ISO's going years back but no solid link to the manual itself
yet.
I'm hopeful someone has made a .PDF of it and is sending it around when
people ask.
Otherwsie if are you are still one of the ISO's, here's a website I recently
stumbled upon that has R500 manuals avalaible among many other OEM parts for
the SONY DAT decks. (circuit boards, buttons, battery sleds, adapters,
remotes, etc...)
They auctually carry oodles of other consumer electronics parts. Overall it
looks to be very nice resource for all kinds of gizmos and easy to navigate
thru providing you have a key piece of info ->> KNOW your BRAND and more
importantly the MODEL NUMBER first.
http://www.partsearchdirect.com
You can call them now at 877-62-PARTS and order as well.
FWIW: I didn't see the PCM-R300 manaul listed there and i was told the R500
manual covers BOTH decks, it specifies which deck has which features in it.
Is this true those of you that have a manual?
So look-up the SONY DAT decks using SONY as the brand and
PCM-R500 as the model (the manual is listed as part number: 385927801)
TCD-D8 as the model (the manual is listed as part number: 381025341)
Don't forget there IS a difference between the OWNERS manual and the SERVICE
manual.
Hope this helps someone - it solved my problem so just thought i'd share :)
and why not just go thru SONY directly?
it's an option still but i gave up after an hour of trying them first....
From: John Brinkley <johnbrinkley@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yes 8/15/02 -alt. source for trade
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:56:30 -0700 (PDT)
Hello all,
Got a nice tape of this show to offer for those that
might want multiple sources of the Woodlands,TX show.
Mine was taped from the center section, row P, very
close to the sweet spot for this venue.
Taped with DPA4060's>HEB battery box(no
roll)>D100>DTC-60ES>Zoltix Nightinggale>CDWAV>3cdr.
I'm looking for some other master clones that haven't
been eq'ed from the current Yes or Rush tour-)
thanks,
John
http://hometown.aol.com/jdbrinkley/myhomepage/collection.html
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From: "MattB" <matt@mattb.net>
Subject: Re: Dat to CD problem....
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:05:12 -0600
Just use something like CDWav or my favorite which is also free, EAC
(www.exactaudiocopy.de) to make yourself a cue sheet. Then if you use CDRWin
or EAC to burn the show, specify that cue sheet and your track marks will
appear with no cutting of your original file (as long as it fits on a CD).
Matt
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Ernie Ensign" <ensign@core.com>
> Subject: Dat to CD problem....
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:36:41 -0400
>
> Ok, I've transfered one of my dats to my hard drive but am left with a
> dilemma, how can I keep the show intact without breaks in between songs,
> yet have the tracks numbered on the CD, with a new number on each track...
> As opposed to just one big wave file, that's just labeled track one.... Is
> there a way...
>
> right now I'm using a soundblaster extigy card, with their software...
The
> sony vaio came with soundforge... but it doesn't appear to be any way to
use
> that to create multiple tacks.... My other option is to break the show up
> into individual tracks, and I would like to avoid that if possible...
>
> Thanks in advance...
> ernie
From: Brian Nichols <brian_nichols7@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Broken Apogee AD-1000
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
I'm selling my AD-1000 which needs repair. Here is the package:
1 AD-1000:
Serial# 0192. Rev C. The word clock has not been replaced.
The unit recently started to output consistent low level noise
in the right channel. The Apogee tech has said that they would
need to see the unit before giving a repair estimate and that
repair costs can be anywhere from $150 to $600.
1 PS-1000E:
Power supply unit that takes AC input and produces 12 volt output.
2 15 pin to 15 pin cables:
Used to connect the power supply to the AD-1000.
1 15 pin to 4 pin XLR cable:
Used to connect a battery to the AD-1000. The 15 pin side also
has an SPDIF digital out RCA connector.
1 RM-1000:
Rack mount bar used to attached above units to a studio rack.
Everything except the AD-1000 is in fine working condition.
The price is $450 for the whole package, including shipping.
I can ship the AD-1000 directly to Apogee, if you prefer.
I have the original boxes and manuals.
I'm selling because I will be purchasing either a Mine-Me or
Lunatec V3 in the near future. I'm waiting for direct
comparison tapes to decide.
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From: "Bob Siegl" <kindnation@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: yoko ono
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:05:19 +0000
From: Michael Brooker <hirakemike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yoko Ono
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
Hello!
Is anyone here interested in trading Yoko Ono
material?
her head on a plate?
he he
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From: Reto Wieduwilt <widu@mac.com>
Subject: DAT recorder
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:20:31 +0200
I am thinking about buying a used DAT recorder via ebay that I don't
have to play all my DAT on my D100.
I have found the following models quite often, but which is the one
to go for, means the one that is reliable even as used and even if
it's a couple years old:
SONY 59ES
55ES
60ES
DTC670
DTC690
DTC790
ZE700
What about DAT decks of other manufacturers? Pioneer? Aiwa??
Any help appreciated
cheers
-widu
From: "jimkun" <jimkun@email.msn.com>
Subject: RE: Dat to CD problem....
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:00:40 -0500
Hey Ernie,
You're on the right track. Keep the .wav file intact as one file. Then
you need to create a cue sheet to put the track information on the disc.
There are several programs available to create cue sheets, or, you can
make a cue sheet using any simple word processor, even Windows notepad.
The trick is to make sure you align the tracks with the frame breaks to
avoid any 'clicks or pops' between the tracks. You can find cue sheet
editors by search on about any search engine. This probably doesn't
explain things very well, but if you check out this site:
http://www.cdrfaq.org/ , it will give you as much information as you
ever wanted to know. Hope this helps. Good luck, Jim
From: Scott/ Debra McPherrin <hippies@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Lemo-Sax
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:57:11 -0500
Hey all,
WTB:
Above mentioned Pre...
If you have one, let's deal!...=)
BWT:
i'll take 2 for:
GDFR:
8/3/02
Neumann TLM-170's/ Mini-Me...
Very tight recordings...
DAT ONLY...
If you don't hear back, you didn't make it...
~Scott
From: "cream of mushroom" <imissmybus@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO "Dean" and TOO Alpine Valley trade
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:17:59 -0700
Sorry but I lost your info, computer is acting up. You were making me
copies of TOO @ Alpine & in return wanted:
Derek Trucks 9-9-01
Trey 5-23-02
Rat Pack 9-6-63.
I have them done & need your address. Chris
From: Todd Bainbridge <eyedoctodd@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: stones fan club and ticket price whine
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:00:54 -0400
From: "Bob Siegl" <kindnation@hotmail.com>
Subject: stones fan club and ticket price whine
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:05:04 +0000
<snip>
If I got tickets and didnt want them, I would most certainly want to
recoup the money spent for get
(NO) access. If the buyer did not want the tickets, I would politely ask
him or her to look to purchase
Rolling Stones tickets for face value
<snip>
Why would you get tickets you didn't want unless you planned to scalp them?
From: audiocapable@earthlink.net
Subject: Audio Capable DAT Drives - $80 shipped
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:58:56 -0400
These DDS-2 tape drives can read and write audio DATs. They
have been sold as Archive/Conner/Seagate drives with the
model names of Python 4326/CTD8000/Peregrine. They come with
mounting rails and a faceplate that result in a 5 1/4 inch form
factor for mounting in a standard drive bay. They are SCSI
drives with the older 50-pin interface. These drives are used
but are in working condition.
They have the 01931-XXX 5AC firmware, which allows them to read
and write audio DATS at more than double speed using the dat2wav
or vdat packages. They are excellent for getting audio from a
DAT onto your hard drive, with .wav files broken up by start ID,
a perfect solution for converting to CD-R. Because they operate
at double speed, they are also excellent for cloning.
Price of $80 includes insured shipping in the continental U.S. by
UPS Ground or equivalent. If you are elsewhere or prefer another
mode of shipping, please inquire. Payment by PayPal, postal money
order or cashier's check. Email audiocapable@earthlink.net with
questions or orders.
From: Michel Pacifici <mickpacifici@attbi.com>
Subject: 90 & 99 minute cdr ?
Reply-To: mickpacifici@attbi.com
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:03:40 -0700
I was wondering if anyone has tried 90 or 99 minute cdr's...
I was looking around for a cheap source for mitsui's and found a place
that sells 90 and 99 minute (Generic) cdr's for 30 and 40 cents
respectively.
I bought a package of each and so far I am happy with my results. I
really pushed the cd's with an 89:57 Soulive show on a 90. I fit a
99:57 Galactic show on a 99!!! I've done about 3 or 4 cd's on both 90's
and 99's. I've played them in every cd player I have from a 400 disc
Sony changer, to an Apex DVD player, to my Ford 6 disc changer.... and
so far I haven't found a glitch. I've listened very close to the first
and last tracks and no issues..... Even the 99:57 Galactic that failed
to write the cd's lead out in Feurio plays just fine, the fade out at
the end of the show is clean!!!
I bought a 10 pack of each just to try them and now I am going to order
100 packs of each.
I still plan on burning important shows to Mitsui's but it's great to
hear an 85min or 98min show in it's entirety!!
Think of how much more you can get into a car changer if each disc has
90 - 100 minutes as opposed to 40 - 60..
Just thought I'd offer my 2 cents
BWT
90min CDR B&P of the 89min:57sec Soulive 8/10/01 show, here is the info:
I can also do shn's at the same time if you want them (1) 74 min CD for
the shn's
Soulive
August 10, 2001 Late Night
Lower Lodge @ Berkfest
Butternut Ski Basin, Great Barrington, MA
Source: Neumann KM140(X/Y OnStage Nealside)> Sound Devices MP2> Sony
TCD-D100 @
44.1khz
From: george wang <gewwang@yahoo.com>
Subject: re: trading tickets and membership fees
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Hance, Bill" <BHance@BroadViewNet.com>
> Subject: trading tickets and membership fees
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 08:59:04 -0400
>
> unplanned circumstance. To pass them off as part
> of the cost of the ticket is shady at best.
>
> -Bill
especially if you're doing it on lists like
datheads,digijam and wisc area tapers (i.e. taping
communities that exist to foster the hobby of taping
and denounce practices like selling bootlegs and
ticket scalping) to other tapers that are trying to
tape the damn shows.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Spie=DF?= <teenage_riot@web.de>
Subject: a couple of ISO's
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:25:08 +0200
Hi there!
I'm looking for recent HQ recordings of Doves, Coldplay, ...And You Will
Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, and Paul McCartney.
Any help would be appreciated. Have lots to trade.
BWT:
I'll take a couple of trades or B&P's for the following...
Coldplay - 2002-07-09 Grosse Freiheit 36, Hamburg, Germany (CSB>SBM1>D100)
Doves - 2002-08-10 Haldern Festival, Rees-Haldern, Germany (CSB>SBM1>D100)
...Trail Of Dead - 2002-08-20 Karlsaue, Kassel, Germany (SBD>DTC-ZE700)
B&P or trade within Europe, online SHN trades for anyone in the states or
elsewhere are possible.
Christian
From: "Holland, John" <JHolland@herald.com>
Subject: ISO: Bluegrass DAT for BnP (w/ WOB)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:25:46 -0400
A DAT-related question for the Datheads list ? Go figure !
I'm hoping that some kind soul will respect my decision to get back into
trading tapes (DATs this time around) and offer me a BnP for some tasty
bluegrass. I'm particularly fond of any Tony Rice Unit from 80's or early
90's (when he could still sing), or any John Hartford, Bela, Jerry Douglas,
Sam Bush, Grisman...you get the picture. As far as newbies, I really like
Nickel Creek (that mandolin player!) and Yonder Mountain String Band. And
I'm always ready to discover something new, even if it costs the $2.50 for a
tape. Recent Jamgrass tour tapes would make me your digital slave forever.
As my CDs get lost/damaged/stolen/borrowed and not returned, I find myself
getting more and more attached to my DATs, and would love to get some
bluegrass in there with all the jambands that I've taped. My ears have
finally reached the point where they prefer 48Khz to 44.1Khz
Of course, anything that really gets me going will be reoffered on this list
(w/ your permission). If you're the kind of Dat-taper that only entertains
trades and doesn't mind CDs, my list is attached below with the WOB.
Let the good tapes roll,
John
WOB - any show on my list to the first 3 folks who reply offlist. A new
addition not on the list is the Al Dimeola 3-6-02 at Jazid in Miami Beach,
taped by Steve Quorten (stealth AKG 451s > Tascam DAP1 at 48K.) Just
converted that one to CD.
http://db.etree.org/Xpanding
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