DAT-heads Digest #460
Contents:
9v NiMH (Jesse Lackey)
denon cd (tom lippi)
Richard Ashcroft Tapers? (Danny Thweatt)
Subject: Re: Taping at Birchmere (Comnaround@aol.com)
FS: Sonic Studios DSM Microphones + Denecke PS-2 (Tony Amenta)
Keith Bode / Digest #459 ("john e. bogus")
Converting LP's > CD ("Chris M.")
Objectors to stealth taping (casey coniff)
Re: Objectors to stealth taping ("Matt C.")
I.S.O. Set Lists! (Mexminute@aol.com)
Re: Michael Kang in NYC area (-bob)
ISO 8/31 Bromberg/Beausoleil (cedavid)
ISO: Murderdolls bootlegs/tapers (ricies@ihug.co.nz)
audiophile 2496 troubles (jopeter1)
help with batteries (Dave Thoma)
ISO Stones 2002-2003 Tour Tapers (stonestrader)
ISO: John Mayer live at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (phish@ameritech.net)
queens of the stone age allowing taping? (george wang)
From: Jesse Lackey <jesse@celestialaudio.com>
Subject: 9v NiMH
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 15:44:25 -0400
> I've read that most NiCD and NiMH "9v batteries" are really 7.2v nominal,
> as they have the same configuration as the alkaline batteries (6 internal
> cells) with lower voltage cells. However, don't give up hope...
>
Yes, my experience is this - Radio Shack NiMH are 9V when charged, and
the sticker says "9V 150mAh".
A "9V" NiMH bought from Jameco (electronics parts mail-order place),
with brand name "Millenium", is about 8V fully charged, no load, and the
sticker on it claims 7.2V 150mAh. An unpleasant surprise.
So, radio shack sometimes does have better stuff...
Also, I remember a Consumer Reports article from a few years ago where
they tested various alkaline batteries and were surprised to find the
for many manufacturers the "D" didn't last any longer than the "C".
Cutting them open, they found that the "D" was just a "C" cell in a
larger case. But radio shack's "D" was a true "D". So this is a word
to the wise for those building battery packs from "D" cells.
Jesse
--
Bill Gates is a crook and millions of tax dollars have been spent
prosecuting and convicting Microsoft of illegal business practices. Do
not give them another dime until they have repaid the US government
these costs.
From: tom lippi <tomzero@yahoo.com>
Subject: denon cd
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
Hello all...
Sorry to post off-topic...but is anyone familiar with
the Denon pro-cd player DN-961FA? I hear that it has a
way to change pitch, but don't know how. Please e-mail
me off list.
And thanks again.
Tom
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From: DannyThweatt@webtv.net (Danny Thweatt)
Subject: Richard Ashcroft Tapers?
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:20:50 -0500 (CDT)
If anyone can tape upcoming Richard Ashcroft shows please, for the love
of God, have mercy on me and trade me copies. I know he is in Dublin on
the 9th and 10th, back in England on the 14th with Oasis, then
throughout the UK for a month or so. I have probably the largest
Verve/Ashcroft collection in the world for trade at
http://www.sanctifiedpress.com/trade.html
Have a nice day, Danny
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rock,apologetics,poetry,ranting,etc...
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From: Comnaround@aol.com
Subject: Subject: Re: Taping at Birchmere
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:30:33 EDT
At no point in my original and may I point out on topic post did I ever say
that I was mistreated or requiring sympathy of any nature because I was
treated poorly. I had no real issue with my deck being used, losing a tape or
batteries. I was fully aware that I was stealthing and that taping was not
permitted. My point in the original post was to describe my experience taping
at the Birchmere which was on topic. Whether or not it was reflected in my
original post I think I have a pretty decent sense of humor about the whole
thing. I think enough of here can fantasize about getting your deck on the
board for one of your favorite but anti-taping bands. I thought it extremely
ironic that my deck which I thought would be stealthing was hooked to the
board and used by the band. Man would I love to have that tape.
I think we have had enough debates about the ethics of stealthing on this
list and others. If you've paid attention to the debate here or anywhere else
it's pretty obvious where Keith stands. That's fine with me but I'm just sick
of hearing about it here and everywhere else. I'd rather read those DAT drive
for sale posts over and over than get into this again. I felt the attitude
that came out in Keith's post towards me to be off of the topic at hand, just
a little too intense, and a real drag.
Mark Lynn
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Taping at Birchmere
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 12:19:05 -0700
Just one question of the poor, mistreated, individual, who had their
taping rig taken away at Birchmere. Did anything tell you taping was
not permitted, like your ticket? Did something tell you taping was
permitted? If you got your rig taken away, and used by the staff, I
guess that may be the price of assuming you have a right to tape where
it may be clearly warned taping is not tolerated. Interesting how that
was never mentioned. If you can afford a portable rig, you can afford
aa tape and some batteries to go to someone else. I don't know if you
were advised in advance of taping being permited or not, but I suspect
you were.
Keith
Subj: Re: Birchmere (for DC/MD/VA tapers)
Date: 9/6/02 3:31:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: <A HREF="mailto:Comnaround">
To: <A HREF="mailto:dat-heads@datheads.phish.net">dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
</A>
The Birchmere is one of the most anti-taping places I have ever encoutered
and also the only place I've been busted. I was taping NRBQ and was turned in
prior to the show by either the wait staff or another concert goer. To make
this an even bigger slap they took my deck until the end of the show and
actualy hooked it up to the board and recorded the show on my tape before
giving me the deck back at the end with low batteries and no tape. Can we say
OUCH!!! The new Birchmere or Birchmere bandshell I think as it's called is
bigger and there is a dance floor in front of the stage and it's a lot easier
to tape. My bust aside I dislike this place for their strict old school no
taping policy,expensive ass craapy food,expensive beer,and the old general
sit down and shut up vibe of the old place. Anyone want to trade NRBQ from
the Birchmere or any other venue drop me a line.
bwt:NRBQ:Bircmere July of 1995 Sonic DSM 5 Omnis->D7 On DAT or CD
From: Tony Amenta <tamenta@accessvt.com>
Subject: FS: Sonic Studios DSM Microphones + Denecke PS-2
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 16:43:05 -0400
My visa payment is due for my the Apogee Mini Me and I have decided to part
with a couple of items that I figured a dat-head might be interested in.
I have a pair of Sonic DSM microphones for sale on eBay. These are great
stealth microphones with a "buy it now" price of $225.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=905533233
I also have a mint condition Denecke PS-2 listed. "buy it now" price is $95.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=905536398
Thanks.
Tony
From: "john e. bogus" <mallness@surfbest.net>
Subject: Keith Bode / Digest #459
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:52:22 -0400
In response to Keith's post in Digest #459, I have to speak in defense of
the busted taper:
Just one question of the poor, mistreated, individual, who had their
taping rig taken away at the Birchmere.
**Keith, after the word "mistreated", you have an extra comma that shouldn't
be there.....you obviously can't count very well either, as you continue by
asking more than one question....
Did anything tell you taping was
not permitted, like your ticket?
**Probably....that's why the taper was stealthing, wasn't it? DUH.....
Did something tell you taping was
permitted?
**Probably not....that's why the taper was stealthing, wasn't it? DUH.....
If you got your rig taken away, and used by the staff, I
guess that may be the price of assuming you have a right to tape where
it may be clearly warned taping is not tolerated.
**One would assume that being busted for stealthing would get you kicked out
of the show, asked to take your equipment back to your car and allowed
re-entry, or have your tape and / or batteries taken away from you....that
would be a reasonable assumption. But to assume the venue and / or band's
staff has a right to use your equipment after taking it away from you is not
a reasonable assumption by any means....
Interesting how that
was never mentioned.
**Exactly, that is the point.....this taper did NOT mention to the venue
staff or the band that they had permission to use his equipment after taking
it from him.
If you can afford a portable rig, you can afford
aa tape and some batteries to go to someone else.
**The word "a" is spelled "a", not "aa". This statement may be true, but
how do you know that this taper did not spend his last dollar getting into
the show? Maybe we all aren't as rich as you are Keith, that we can afford
to give away batteries and tapes.....how often do YOU give away your
batteries and tapes? Since you're on this list and therefore probably own a
DAT deck, how about if I assume that YOU can afford to send ME a fresh set
of batteries and a sealed blank? I'll be glad to give you my PO box number
if you want to put your money where your mouth is.....
I don't know if you
were advised in advance of taping being permited or not, but I suspect
you were.
**So what? When it says on your ticket or a sign in the venue "no cameras
or recorders allowed", the translation is: "expect to run stealth if you
want to get this show on tape"......
Keith, your post does a beautiful job of showcasing your mentality.....I
wish you luck in getting anyone to trade with you. You should attach your
post to your resume in the future when you apply for jobs at nazi venues
like the Birchmere and places of similar ilk. I'll bet you have a great
tape collection, with every recording being sanctioned by both the performer
and the venue, right? Put your money where your mouth is, Keith, and mail
all your stealth tapes to the staff of the venues at which they were
recorded....be sure to include a fresh set of batteries....
Now a couple questions of my own:
1) Why didn't the taper in question demand his equipment back and leave the
show?
2) Who would want to tape anything at this venue in the first place? I've
never heard (yes, I live in the general area) of anything good playing
there.....I'll bet there has never been a guitar solo played on that
stage.....what a waste.....
If venues treat their patrons that poorly, BOYCOTT THEM and see the band
somewhere else! Being lucky enough to live in an area of high population
density, I find that a band will usually play at several venues within a
two hour drive and can select the venue that presents the least amount of
hassles to tape in....
Thanks for the posting,
john e. bogus
From: "Chris M." <chris_83_01@yahoo.com>
Subject: Converting LP's > CD
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:01:45 -0700 (PDT)
Hi, my dad has a buddy who has a nice, old, and rare LP
collection. He'd like to be able to convert some to CD to
make a few mixes and what not. I tried a few of them by
going LP player > RCA>eight-inch analog cable > Sharp MT-99
MD.**(see note below). Well it sounds alright (I have a
digital soundcard and a MD player with dig. output, so I
converted it to CD), but I'm wondering if there's a better
way to do it. I was thinking since we are amateur
hobbyists (and he has no digital equipment at all, but I'm
supervising his purchases), he could get an outboard A>D
converter like the one shown here:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=570&item=SP-AD2000&type=store
He could then get a Zoltrix Nightengale digital soundcard
for $30 and there you go, a decent set-up.
Now for people who know more about this stuff, do you have
any suggestions as far as him purchasing equipment? Maybe
he could go LP player > home DAT Deck > dig. soundcard? Or
even LP player > outboard A>D > Stand Alone CD-R Deck?
This brings up another question, if he was to go find a way
to go into the computer, would it be a good idea for him to
get like, CEP and do some noise reduction? Any suggestions
AT ALL will be gladly accepted. :)
**Ok, when I was going LP Player > Sharp MT-99 MD something
weird was going on. I had the RCA>eight-inch analog cable.
I plugged the two RCA's in the output of the LP player and
the eight-inch end into the Line-In of my portable MD
recorder. but I picked up no sound. I had to go in
through the Mic-In where I did get a sound. Why is that?
Would I be better off using LP player > amplifier(one from
my dad's home stereo system or something like that) > MD?
Thanks!!! :)
=====
Check out my site: http://www.geocities.com/chris_83_01/ChrisDMB.html
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From: casey coniff <vttaper2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Objectors to stealth taping
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:38:02 -0700 (PDT)
Man some of these self righteous jerks on this list
that are so down on stealth taping for personal use
should take their heads out of the sand or wherever it
is and lighten up. If Taping is in your blood your
going to tape what you want when you want, half the
fun is the hunt, they just don't understand it or are
too paranoid to enjoy doing it.
TAX: Bob Dylan 2/20/99
I'll contact those that are in. ENJOY MUSIC
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From: "Matt C." <Snakebite@nyloose.com>
Subject: Re: Objectors to stealth taping
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:44:49 -0700
===== Original Message =====
From: "casey coniff" <vttaper2001@yahoo.com>
To: "Dat-Heads" <dat-heads@datheads.phish.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 5:38 PM
Subject: Objectors to stealth taping
> Man some of these self righteous jerks on this list
> that are so down on stealth taping for personal use
> should take their heads out of the sand or wherever it
> is and lighten up.
no shit. i stealth tape (99.9% of the time). and i sell my shit too!! if you don't like
it you can kiss my ass. this list is for dat trading/taping. we don't come here for
ethics lessons.
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From: Mexminute@aol.com
Subject: I.S.O. Set Lists!
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:51:35 -0400
Could someone please direct me to any web sites that have set lists for the following:
1. Emmylou Harris
2. Lilith Festivals
3. Telluride Festivals
Would you kindly e-mail your suggestions to: mexminute@aol.com
Thanks,
Mitchell
From: -bob <nattyfret@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Michael Kang in NYC area
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:20:16 -0700 (PDT)
I am looking for anyone who is taping Elastic Mystic
at the Stanhope House; Stanhope, NJ on 9/16 P.M.
Please e-mail me.
Thanks.
-Bob
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From: cedavid <cedavid@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Subject: ISO 8/31 Bromberg/Beausoleil
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:48:23 -0400
Looking for the David Bromberg/Acoustic Americana and Beausoleil sets from
Saturday 8/31/02 - Rhythm & Roots Festival, Charleston, RI
Hope somebody taped them.
Thanks
From: ricies@ihug.co.nz
Subject: ISO: Murderdolls bootlegs/tapers
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 02:31:20 GMT
Hi, does anyone have any Murderdolls bootlegs or are taping the upcoming
concerts?
-Karl
www.mmboootlegs.8m.com
From: jopeter1 <jopeter1@vt.edu>
Subject: audiophile 2496 troubles
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:23:15 -0400
Hey-
After transferring from DAT to my hard drive on my computer crackles not on
the DAT copy are heard throughout the recording. What can I do to get rid of
this? I had this same problem once but I have forgotten how to fix it.
Thanks,
John Peters
From: Dave Thoma <david.thoma@comcast.net>
Subject: help with batteries
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 00:33:25 -0400
Hey, is their an external battery FAQ anywhere, or is their someone on the
list whose brain I could pick regarding rechargeable battery systems? I'm
trying to avoid shelling out the outrageous cost of the ecocharge system,
but I don't know a whole lot about electronics. I think I've found a
suitable battery, but I have some questions regarding the charger, the
cables (I'll be powering a d8 and an mp2), and issues such as storage
conditions, care, etc.
Any help is appreciated. My IM name is Thoman8r if you want to go that
route...
Thanks in advance.
Dave
From: stonestrader <stonestrader@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO Stones 2002-2003 Tour Tapers
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
Hi everyone:
If you plan to tape an upcoming Stones show (and would
like to trade for more shows) please email me. I'm
working on a project that will benefit those of us
looking to collect and trade recordings from the
upcoming tour. From the looks of the Boston run,
substantially different setlists will be performed
this tour - also looking for recordings of the Boston
shows.
If interested, email me at the address below. Thanks
and be safe on the road.
stonestrader@yahoo.com
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From: phish@ameritech.net
Subject: ISO: John Mayer live at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 02:36:46 -0400
Does anybody have this show on either DAT or cd? please e-mail me at:
phish@ameritech.net
Thanks,
Andrew Rosenfeld
phish@ameritech.net
From: george wang <gewwang@yahoo.com>
Subject: queens of the stone age allowing taping?
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:38:00 -0700 (PDT)
i read on the qotsa.com message board something about
the band letting venues know they are allowing open
taping starting with this tour. can anyone support or
deny this with concrete evidence?
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